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Title: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 06, 2011, 07:53:21 PM

Bracket

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/firestorm94/Officialbrackets.png)

Splash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EgEGYpSC0Q# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EgEGYpSC0Q#)


Trialbot 3
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/firestorm94/screenshot_7-6.jpg)

Heat A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CfgIShKRGw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CfgIShKRGw#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufQQttJkQjs# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufQQttJkQjs#)

Heat B

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g64zS4OCcws# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g64zS4OCcws#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op9WOc73dKE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op9WOc73dKE#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE9crTfuQ_c# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE9crTfuQ_c#)

Heat C

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpse5Ko1VM0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpse5Ko1VM0#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNN0kSXuEs4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNN0kSXuEs4#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix2msSeBgTk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix2msSeBgTk#)

Heat D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGcB4N8KkL0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGcB4N8KkL0#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbWppgnilGc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbWppgnilGc#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spwEP1zlBXU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spwEP1zlBXU#)

Finals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsKpHkAYfoo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsKpHkAYfoo#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFWqxTg1gkI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFWqxTg1gkI#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiwdEKEStVI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiwdEKEStVI#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcn0CYDQGW4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcn0CYDQGW4#)

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Urjak on June 06, 2011, 08:14:23 PM

Ah crap... I got the one bot I really don't want to face.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: SKBT on June 06, 2011, 08:18:12 PM

Just what Jaws Of Defeat Funsize was designed to fight...

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 06, 2011, 08:32:06 PM

What can I say, blame the randomizer.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 07, 2011, 02:55:43 AM

Looks like a pretty good selection of bots. =] Predictions time.
 
n00b: Actually doesn't look too bad. Exposed weak motor is a bit of a worry, but I think it'll certainly do alright in the Damage The Trialbot round.
TesseracT II: It's very well built, but I forget how many HP the motor on the front has. I think it could be a dark horse.
Mr Flibble: Looks damaging enough with a Perm on a BW, though it may end up becoming unstable a bit too easily.
Micro Mako: What is this, MMR all over again? Should be damaging, certainly, but unlike an HS, I think will do well in the FttF as well.
Puncture III: Yes, it is MMR all over again. Basically Puncture II with more weaponry. Damaging, fast, agile and surprisingly defensive as well,. Even with Plastic 1 armour, I think I'll do well here.
Snakehead: Slightly odd extender setup at the back. But I think the weaponry will be alright. Depends what armour it has, maybe.
Micro M.A.D. 3: It's just a wall, but it's not a very good one. It's not invertible, the extenders are hideously exposed...I can't see this going far.
EENH 4.5: Similar to Puncture III, but with more weapons and slower drive. More a wall than a rammer, I think, but it should do pretty well.
Parfumerie 2: Looks deadly at first glance. However, the CF extenders look far too fragile for me, and its wide stance could let it down in the FttF (Think Groundhog in RW Series 2).
Cape Stag Beetle: VERY strange wheel attachment. But doesn't look terribly bad, I think. Could see a couple of upsets.
Devour: Hammer? If so, it could fare very well with the multitude of rammers, and even the mini FG. I'm still slightly unsure of it, but it could be one to watch.
Enturon II: Nice weapon attachment. Very well built, it should do quite well, I think.
Plastic Smelter: I'm slightly concerned about the stability for some reason, and if it's properly invertible. But I think it's a good built, and I'm hoping it does well.
Jaws Of Defeat Funsize: Another proper rammer instead of a wall. I do like the looks of this, it's definitely one to keep an eye on.
Incompetence: Interesting build. It actually looks like it could do well, but I think it'll fall down in the FttF. Not stable enough, I reckon.
Dimwitted Background Pony 4: Sledgepuncture. It's a wall, but it's also quite fast. I think this will do very well, personally. So long as its wheels or extenders don't get taken off.
 
Final Four: Jaws Of Defeat Funsize, Snakehead, Incompetence (Lucky draw), Micro Mako

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: ty4er on June 07, 2011, 09:57:44 AM

Predikshions

n00b: Seems damaging, but the exposed motor could let it down.
TesseracT II: Not sure about this one. would be a pain to fight (i would imagine) but i don't like asymmetrical robots :P
Mr Flibble: Interesting design with the perm but the extenders might let it down.
Micro Mako: Weapons might be brittle and not have enough reach. Otherwise it could do well.
Puncture III: Very good rammer, could go far.
Snakehead: More of a wall than a rammer, does have a lot of (brittle) weapons so it could go far also.
Micro M.A.D. 3: Oh dear. Not great weapon choice plus i don't think it i invertible. I'd say this is the SFTW.
Meeee: Obv winner by a mile More a wall but does have quite a few weapons. The chassis might be a problem though.
Parfumerie 2: Good design, apart from the wide stance which could be a problem. Also the extenders are weak.
Cape Stag Beetle: It... has a long chassis? Not too sure about self-righting and it doesn't have many weapons. But it does have a good wedge.
Devour: Is that a pop-up or hammer or whut. Looks unrealistic but could do well.
Enturon II: Not a ss :o  It looks like a nice wall/rammer but with better extenders (and not so many weapons). Might get outweaponed but otherwise it should do pretty well.
Plastic Smelter: I doubt this will go far. Could easily get putweaponed and has very exposed motors. But it has a wedge (which some others don't).
Jaws Of Defeat Funsize: very good rammer but might get outweaponed.
Incompetence: good VS, can it self-right?
Dimwitted Background Pony 4: Seems a nice rammer with good weapons but i fear for the wheels. Otherwise might go fairly far.

I think that either JODF, DBP4 or Puncture III might win this.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Badnik96 on June 07, 2011, 10:04:54 AM

what's the name of the song you used in the splash vid?

Also, like 5 entries are from MMR :P

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 10:10:47 AM

Quote from: Badnik96 on June 07, 2011, 10:04:54 AM

what's the name of the song you used in the splash vid?

Also, like 5 entries are from MMR :P

"Rhythm and Balance" from Sonic Adventure 2 (used in the level "White Jungle"). Also used it in the second trials splash.

I also noticed that.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on June 07, 2011, 11:57:39 AM

I only entered Micro Mako for teh lulz :P

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 12:15:51 PM

First half of Heat A is now up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 07, 2011, 12:23:11 PM

That was my biggest worry about DBP4. Was surprisingly close in the KotH, though, I thought it could go either way. But well done to Urjak, good luck in the next round. =)

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on June 07, 2011, 12:23:36 PM

KOTH is so redundant.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Conraaa on June 07, 2011, 12:42:58 PM

Bloody heck Ty4er and NFX got that wrong :P
Well done Urjak.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 01:16:52 PM

Got a problem

One of the bots is suffering "technical difficulties"

Seriously, when I test it out AI'd, it works fine but once I have to record the bot becomes a big havok crazy machine.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: ty4er on June 07, 2011, 01:20:37 PM

SKBT?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 01:27:31 PM

I'm stuck here, it only havoks in some arenas but not all of them.


EDIT - The rules say no havok prone bots, so I might have to disqualify it.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on June 07, 2011, 01:36:28 PM

Which one is it?

If you tell us it may be easier to solve

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 01:37:40 PM

Jaws of Defeat Funsize

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: ty4er on June 07, 2011, 01:39:32 PM

Either use the fix or swap arenas (with permission)

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on June 07, 2011, 01:40:01 PM

It may be because you don't have the skirt hinge fix

But it says DSL in the rules, so you you can't use it...

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 07, 2011, 01:41:26 PM

I don't see why he couldn't. It doesn't change the basics of the game in any way, it just prevents the use of Narmour.
 
And it's probably the motor/wheel combination, anyhow. If you try reducing the turn and turnspeed, that could probably stop it.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 01:49:40 PM

@ty4er - Bad idea, no offense, but the chosen arenas are part of the rules.

@Vertigo - Yup can't use it.

@NFX - Tried it, failed.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 07, 2011, 01:50:51 PM

At what point does it havok? When it tries to turn?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 01:51:55 PM

Everytime it tries to move, it only lags on the KoTH arenas. I've tried it in other arenas and it works fine.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: SKBT on June 07, 2011, 04:13:49 PM

Whats up with Jaws of Defeat's and havoking lately? First Jaws of Defeat in Tag Team Tussle and now Jaws of Defeat Funsize in RA2 Trials. :P

JODF doesn't havok on my computer. I tried it in the KOTH arena and in a random assortment of others before I sent.


Edit: Did I also forget to send an AI line for JODF?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Urjak on June 07, 2011, 05:08:23 PM

Good god. I won my match by the skin of my razors. Well fought Conraa.

On the whole Jaws problem, you MIGHT be able to take a poll and see if anyone is against the skirt hinge fix. I certainly wouldn't be if it means preventing a disqualification.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 07, 2011, 05:13:42 PM

I'm certainly not against it. I can't see how it would drastically affect any of the entrants thus far, aside from SKBT's jaws actually working.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 05:28:24 PM

I tried the skirt hinge fix to see what happens and it still havoks.

and yes you did SKBT.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: freeziez on June 07, 2011, 05:52:56 PM

Quote from: NFX on June 07, 2011, 02:55:43 AM

Incompetence: Interesting build. It actually looks like it could do well, but I think it'll fall down in the FttF. Not stable enough, I reckon.

Quote from: ty4er on June 07, 2011, 09:57:44 AM

Incompetence: good VS, can it self-right?

It can self right, and is quite stable. Only problem is that it is a little slow.

FINAL 4:

Jaws of Defeat Funsize, Puncture III, Incompetence, Micro Mako

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 07, 2011, 06:43:20 PM

JODF's position in the final four depends entirely on whether the havok gets fixed. If it doesn't, it could throw the whole tournament up in the air. I don't have any doubt that it won't be, though, it is simple enough to do. =]

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Urjak on June 07, 2011, 07:37:07 PM

Quote from: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 05:28:24 PM

I tried the skirt hinge fix to see what happens and it still havoks.

and yes you did SKBT.

Alright... then disqualification seems unavoidable.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: SKBT on June 07, 2011, 08:03:43 PM

I just had an idea. Could I re-make JODF with a larger chassis and see if that works? I've got 4 kg to play with so I know the chassis can be a lot bigger.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 08:23:43 PM

That's not really fair though, cause the tournament just started...idk, depends on what everyone else thinks.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: MikeNCR on June 07, 2011, 08:36:11 PM

Quote from: S.T.C. on June 07, 2011, 08:23:43 PM

That's not really fair though, cause the tournament just started...idk, depends on what everyone else thinks.

If there's no real change to the function/effectiveness of the drive/weapon outside of removing havoc issues, I don't think it's a problem

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on June 07, 2011, 10:42:05 PM

Take a poll.  Personally I don't care.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Urjak on June 07, 2011, 10:51:36 PM

Nor do I care.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on June 08, 2011, 01:57:07 AM

I do because I'm selfish and don't want a good bot in the tourney that may compromise my impending victory!!!
I don't mind.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Scorpion on June 08, 2011, 03:39:19 AM

Let him I say.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: G.K. on June 08, 2011, 04:34:58 AM

As an impartial outsider, I am fine with him doing that.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 08, 2011, 08:26:44 AM

I'm perfectly fine with him trying to expand the chassis to avoid it.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Pwnator on June 08, 2011, 08:31:41 AM

What they all said.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on June 08, 2011, 10:39:43 AM

As much as I trust SKBT and all, and I know he would do it fairly

By letting him change his bot you are opening up a whole can of worms, not just in this, but in other tourneys also

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Scorpion on June 08, 2011, 10:44:52 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on June 08, 2011, 10:39:43 AM

As much as I trust SKBT and all, and I know he would do it fairly

By letting him change his bot you are opening up a whole can of worms, not just in this, but in other tourneys also

I don't see how so...

This is a case of a flaw in the game causing problems with the bot, it's not a flaw with the bot, and therefore it's not really fair that SKBT be punished for it.

Besides, I can't see this being abused, i'm sure the host would quickly realise any changes to the bot other than a slightly larger chassis, and in turn disallow them from using the edited bot.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 08, 2011, 11:01:28 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on June 08, 2011, 10:39:43 AM

As much as I trust SKBT and all, and I know he would do it fairly

By letting him change his bot you are opening up a whole can of worms, not just in this, but in other tourneys also

I can't see how this system is open to abuse, in all honesty. If the bot is received, then that means the entrant was happy enough for it to take part. If the only problem is havoking in a certain manner, and it's been established that the problem is the size of the chassis, then they should be allowed to use what weight they have left to enlarge the chassis only. All the other components must remain the same, I think that's a pretty fair ruling on it.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 08, 2011, 11:43:18 AM

I've sent a PM to SKBT explaining that he could "fix" his bot already.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Jonzu95 on June 08, 2011, 03:36:14 PM

WHAT!? THIS STARTED ALREADY TOO!?

I never make up into tournaments anymore.... :'(

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 08, 2011, 06:53:11 PM

Well I've recently recieved SKBT's entry again, but it still havoks and SKBT said I can DQ him if it didn't work so SKBT is disqualified. The Fight to the Finish will be Urjak vs Martymidget and will come soon.

I apologize for the delay in videos due to this situation and I take full responsability. I will try my best so nothing like this happens again next tournament I do.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 08, 2011, 07:29:54 PM

DP

The Fight to the Finish match is up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 08, 2011, 07:32:40 PM

Such a shame that SKBT's entry had to be DQ'd, I thought it was a serious contender for the championship.

FttF match was quite surprising, though. I thought marty would be too unstable. Good job, though.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 08, 2011, 08:15:45 PM

First half of Heat B is now up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Urjak on June 08, 2011, 09:04:04 PM

Blehhh... what a crappy match. A rather cheap loss. Ah well, what happens happens. Good luck with tournament Marty!

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 08, 2011, 09:30:04 PM

Second half of Heat B is up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 08, 2011, 10:02:39 PM

DP

Heat B Finals is up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 09, 2011, 07:00:36 AM

That was slightly worrying when my entire weapon rack came off. But at least it was late on in the fight and didn't affect it too badly. Little guy seems to be holding up pretty well, I think. =]

What? Puncture III faces Mr. Flibble next? *flashback to MMR Round 2*
RETRIBUTIOOOOOOOOON!!!

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Hard Bot on June 09, 2011, 02:50:44 PM

I'm fighting MassimoV! The easist bot in the tourney!

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Scorpion on June 09, 2011, 02:53:41 PM

Quote from: Hard Bot on June 09, 2011, 02:50:44 PM

I'm fighting MassimoV! The easist bot in the tourney!

No, Massimo's bot is good, your's is the worst in the tournament, and I can't wait to see it get beaten to a pulp.
Maybe that will make you shut up and stop being so arrogant.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: martymidget on June 11, 2011, 11:20:22 AM

Quote from: NFX on June 09, 2011, 07:00:36 AM

That was slightly worrying when my entire weapon rack came off. But at least it was late on in the fight and didn't affect it too badly. Little guy seems to be holding up pretty well, I think. =]

What? Puncture III faces Mr. Flibble next? *flashback to MMR Round 2*
RETRIBUTIOOOOOOOOON!!!

Yay, flibble did what he was built for XD Darn close though o.o Also, commiserations to SKBT. To the challenge board? :P
Don't you worry NFX, Flibble probably can't make it up the hill. The whole point in entering Mr Flibble was to repeat last time by destroying the bot fighting the trial bot. Should be fun XD

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: SKBT on June 11, 2011, 11:27:49 AM

Quote from: martymidget on June 11, 2011, 11:20:22 AM

To the challenge board? :P

Sure you want to create the thread?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: JoeBlo on June 11, 2011, 11:49:30 AM

well I was late to read this but 2 things could have been tried

1) Re-import/ export the robot in the game that the robot is havoking in

2) Remove the wheels and re-place them in the game that the robot is havoking in (also try rotating the wheels before attaching)

but to late now..

Seems really dodgy though.. clean game?

I remember my robots always acted really odd in Badniks tournaments (Revolutionist and Tentomushi) but no cause was ever looked into..

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Scorpion on June 11, 2011, 02:39:31 PM

Quote from: JoeBlo on June 11, 2011, 11:49:30 AM

well I was late to read this but 2 things could have been tried

1) Re-import/ export the robot in the game that the robot is havoking in

2) Remove the wheels and re-place them in the game that the robot is havoking in (also try rotating the wheels before attaching)

but to late now..

Seems really dodgy though.. clean game?

I remember my robots always acted really odd in Badniks tournaments (Revolutionist and Tentomushi) but no cause was ever looked into..

Could it be possible that different machines setups and what not affect havoking in RA2?
Similair to how using windows 7 makes it harder to stack?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 11, 2011, 05:54:50 PM

Well, its too late now but those are very good suggestions if it happens again, which I hope it doesn't.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 11, 2011, 06:55:17 PM

DP

First half of Heat C is now up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 11, 2011, 09:01:47 PM

TP

Second half and finals of Heat C are now up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 12, 2011, 05:06:50 AM

Nice to see I'm getting all of my predictions wrong. =D Well done to Scorps.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: freeziez on June 12, 2011, 06:42:54 AM

Put a gun to my head and paint the wall with my brains. :P

I knew I should have built a rammer.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: ty4er on June 12, 2011, 06:51:20 AM

Dat wedge.
Good matches anyway, you'd better do well scorps :P

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Scorpion on June 12, 2011, 05:58:46 PM

yay

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Hard Bot on June 13, 2011, 09:44:13 AM

I might go on a razor guy run.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 13, 2011, 10:05:31 AM

You probably won't, though. You'll need a huge amount of luck to beat MassimoV, and even then you'll probably get shoved off the FttF immediately.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 17, 2011, 01:27:21 PM

First half of Heat D is now up.

I've just hit another issue, it appears that Squirrel_Monkey's bot goes through the floor in the Small Arena. I'll PM him the situation and give him the same option SKBT had, to modify his bot to fix the problem without removing or adding components.


EDIT - S_M gave me a better idea, anyone know how to raise the start point of the arena?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Scorpion on June 17, 2011, 01:33:59 PM

Sounds to me more like it's a weird problem with the arena, I can't see why SM's bot would go through the floor normally.

Edit: lol, beat me to it.

Anyway, here's a link to a tutorial from JB https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2734.msg221549.html#msg221549 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2734.msg221549.html#msg221549)

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: G.K. on June 17, 2011, 01:35:19 PM

Quote from: S.T.C. on June 17, 2011, 01:27:21 PM

EDIT - S_M gave me a better idea, anyone know how to raise the start point of the arena?

It's a fairly simple GMF edit.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 17, 2011, 01:36:02 PM

Its chassis is raised up by its extenders.


@G.K. - Oh? But I have no idea howto work with GMF.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: freeziez on June 17, 2011, 01:38:09 PM

Man, Hard Bot got owned!

Good job MassimoV.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 17, 2011, 01:42:56 PM

Well, that should shut Hard Bot up for a bit. =) Good work, MassimoV.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on June 17, 2011, 01:48:34 PM

Hard bot lost, surprise surprise

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Hard Bot on June 17, 2011, 01:49:55 PM

A win in Iron Bot should make up for this.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: ty4er on June 17, 2011, 01:50:27 PM

And it aint gonna happen methinks.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: MassimoV on June 17, 2011, 01:51:28 PM

Thank goodness it was that slow. Nice match HB

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Hard Bot on June 17, 2011, 01:51:39 PM

But I know how to make a 36-HS. And after the post this should get back on topic.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: freeziez on June 17, 2011, 01:51:46 PM

Quote from: Hard Bot on June 17, 2011, 01:49:55 PM

A win in Iron Bot should make up for this.

That was clever. So how's that working out for you?

Quote from: Hard Bot on June 17, 2011, 01:51:39 PM

But I know how to make a 36-HS.

A bad one.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Hard Bot on June 17, 2011, 01:52:33 PM

Made a 36-HS for that. Now back on topic.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on June 17, 2011, 01:53:40 PM

I think Hard Bot is tricking us into thinking he's a terrible bot builder and will enter something amazing into IronBot and win the entire tourney...

Or maybe not

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 17, 2011, 02:10:02 PM

I imagine it's the extender work giving SM's machine problems. It would work if the chassis was lower down, but then that would defeat the purpose of the bot.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Scorpion on June 17, 2011, 02:27:24 PM

Quote from: NFX on June 17, 2011, 02:10:02 PM

I imagine it's the extender work giving SM's machine problems. It would work if the chassis was lower down, but then that would defeat the purpose of the bot.

It is, just follow the tutorial i linked you to on my previous post S.T.C and that should fix it  :approve:

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 17, 2011, 04:34:58 PM

Oh

Well I'm gonna need Serge's Decompiler, which I can't find...

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on June 17, 2011, 07:57:57 PM

Serge's arena Decompiler? If it isn't in the Downloads thing on the Front Page, then you could search in the Robot Arena 2 forums for it.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 17, 2011, 08:49:24 PM

The decompiler doesn't work on my laptop, it said I need to install msvcr100, I did and it still says I need the file.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: JoeBlo on June 17, 2011, 11:24:24 PM

Get a SZ and stick it significantly below all of SM's components.. this should cause the game to drop it higher..

Otherwise I will make a second arena GMF, one with a raised point and one with normal points.. the raised points might effect other robots which you dont want..

Also I strongly suggest in future you test all robots in the actual arena's your using when you first AI them to avoid these kind of issues..

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 18, 2011, 08:34:08 PM

Well that didn't work, and I will, trust me.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 20, 2011, 08:03:59 PM

Okay, so how do I compile the file?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on June 20, 2011, 08:20:34 PM

Quote from: S.T.C. on June 20, 2011, 08:03:59 PM

Okay, so how do I compile the file?

Can you be more specific?  What have you done so far and what do you need to compile?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 20, 2011, 08:21:56 PM

I used Serge's decompiler to modify the starting points on the small arena, but idk how to compile the file.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on June 20, 2011, 08:43:42 PM

I'm assuming followed this link:
http://code.google.com/p/gmftoolkit/downloads/list (http://code.google.com/p/gmftoolkit/downloads/list)

...and only downloaded the decompiler.  You need to download the compiler as well.  Can't have a Yin without a Yang

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 20, 2011, 08:57:32 PM

Nope, I used the one on the tools list here. The one Serge made.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on June 26, 2011, 08:54:08 PM

I would just like to apologize for the delay in videos, I'm currently having some trouble with the small arena (as some of you know) and as soon as I finally fix the starting points, I will upload as many videos as I can again.

Again I would just like to apologize and I'm working on it, though help would be appreciated =) just sayin'.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 18, 2011, 04:32:38 PM

Sorry to bump this, but is there any progress at all? =]

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on July 18, 2011, 04:34:27 PM

It's my fault. Nothing I build fits in this arena. STC is currently asking for help to raise the start points. JB has offered but I'm not sure if STC has accepted the help.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 21, 2011, 12:38:32 PM

I did, and it's more my fault for not testing it in the arena. I apologize for that again btw and I'll make sure this won't happen again.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 26, 2011, 04:23:03 PM

DP

Thanks to JB's help, the tournament can continue now. The second half of Heat D is now up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Conraaa on July 26, 2011, 04:25:22 PM

After all that S_M has to at least win the tourney now to make it all worthwhile. :P
Edit:

Well, that was a bit disappointing. It's like vertigo wasn't facing another bot quite frankly. Hideous draw for S_M's bot though.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 26, 2011, 04:28:07 PM

Well, that was pretty conclusive. Probably the worst bot he could have been matched against, though.

I lol'd at the enormous height S_M dropped from in the Damage The Trialbot round.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 26, 2011, 04:55:33 PM

Heat D Finals is now up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 26, 2011, 05:00:41 PM

That was actually a pretty good match. Congrats to

The winner. =D

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on July 28, 2011, 10:16:51 AM

Quote from: NFX on July 26, 2011, 05:00:41 PM

That was actually a pretty good match. Congrats to

The winner. =D

Woo

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 28, 2011, 10:30:44 AM

Finals are shaping up to be pretty epic. =) Good luck to everyone.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 29, 2011, 04:54:59 PM

Yup, and the finals are different this time.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 29, 2011, 05:06:18 PM

Ah, so it's a four-way. Should make things more interesting. If two bots are eliminated, will there be a fight for 3rd place?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 29, 2011, 05:20:56 PM

If there's a 2-way tie for last, both go out, a 3-way tie for last means the trial will restart.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: martymidget on July 29, 2011, 05:21:49 PM

Micro Mayhem reincarnated: reincarnated with a twist?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 29, 2011, 05:24:25 PM

Yeah. I did notice how myself, you and Vert all submitted the same bots (basically) from MMR. And now we're all in the final. It should be a good deal of fun.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 29, 2011, 05:54:24 PM

Part 1 of the finals are up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 29, 2011, 05:58:28 PM

Pretty eventful fight. Shame that Scorps never really seemed to get going.

And LOL @ my entire weapon rack coming off. That CF extender was always going to be the weak link. Hopefully there'll be no more lucky hits.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: martymidget on July 29, 2011, 06:17:23 PM

Looks like I AI'd flibble wrong..it starts facing the wrong way. Nose errors. Did I send a nose thing in the binding STC? If so, delete it, if not, add a nose*math.pi thingy in.

Muchos gracias.

or let it go the way it is for lols

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 29, 2011, 06:22:19 PM

It starts fine actually.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 29, 2011, 06:27:11 PM

DP

Part 2 is now up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 29, 2011, 06:40:54 PM

TP

3rd place playoff is now up.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 29, 2011, 07:05:26 PM

4 in a row I guess

Finals is now up

Sorry for the cheap ending, congrats, Marty. Prize will come tomorrow.

Awards section will come tomorrow.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 29, 2011, 07:17:56 PM

That was pretty cheap...but it's still a great bot. Congratulations to marty for getting this far. =D Puncture will defeat Mr. Flibble in something.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: martymidget on July 30, 2011, 09:42:57 AM

Totally cheap. Cheap cheap cheap. In my mind NFX won that XD

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: freeziez on July 30, 2011, 10:17:00 AM

YOU SPELLED MY NAME WRONG  :rage Good job, Marty, even if it was cheap.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 30, 2011, 10:28:32 AM

If i do th again, I'm gnna ask someone to add the walls on the FTTF beforehand.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: NFX on July 30, 2011, 10:41:02 AM

I think that's a good move, personally. It would stop cheap wins like that from happening where the bot that leaves the platform first isn't the robot that's eliminated first. How high would said walls be?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 30, 2011, 04:12:27 PM

High like the ra2t arena.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 02:58:37 AM

Grah, stupid arena
Still, one step up from last time, 4th, 3rd.... Can you do two more STC?

Funniest thing is, I originally built Micro Mako as a joke bot, never expecting it to do well in anything XD

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: ty4er on July 31, 2011, 03:02:42 AM

Quote from: S.T.C. on July 30, 2011, 04:12:27 PM

High like the ra2t arena.

OH IF ONLY YOU HAD IT WHEN I WAS AGAINST SCORPION

Nah, it was a fair win.



Unlike the finals >.<

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 03:07:06 AM

Quote from: ty4er on July 31, 2011, 03:02:42 AM

Quote from: S.T.C. on July 30, 2011, 04:12:27 PM

High like the ra2t arena.

OH IF ONLY YOU HAD IT WHEN I WAS AGAINST SCORPION

Nah, it was a fair win.



Unlike the finals >.<

Yes STC redo the entire finals untill I win

Valid Query bots never deserve to win anyway  :trollface
Bulldozer should have won, grah

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: S.T.C. on July 31, 2011, 04:12:41 AM

Yeah, but sadly I have no experience or knowledge when it comes to arena modding, so as soon as I come around to making another tournament I'll see if I can get some help.

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: martymidget on July 31, 2011, 04:18:27 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 03:07:06 AM

Valid Query bots never deserve to win anyway  :trollface
Bulldozer should have won, grah

Fever deserved it the most :P

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 04:29:43 AM

Quote from: martymidget on July 31, 2011, 04:18:27 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 03:07:06 AM

Valid Query bots never deserve to win anyway  :trollface
Bulldozer should have won, grah

Fever deserved it the most :P

Nah, bulldozer FTW :P

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: ty4er on July 31, 2011, 04:31:24 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 04:29:43 AM

Quote from: martymidget on July 31, 2011, 04:18:27 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 03:07:06 AM

Valid Query bots never deserve to win anyway  :trollface
Bulldozer should have won, grah

Fever deserved it the most :P

Nah, bulldozer FTW :P

no.

Me ftw

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 04:36:17 AM

Quote from: ty4er on July 31, 2011, 04:31:24 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 04:29:43 AM

Quote from: martymidget on July 31, 2011, 04:18:27 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 03:07:06 AM

Valid Query bots never deserve to win anyway  :trollface
Bulldozer should have won, grah

Fever deserved it the most :P

Nah, bulldozer FTW :P

no.

Me ftw

You weren't around for TA, so you don't have a say in the argument :P

Anyway, we should stop this irrelevant argument now

Title: Re: RA2 Trials Series 3 Brackets, Videos, and Predictions
Post by: freeziez on July 31, 2011, 10:22:47 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 04:29:43 AM

Quote from: martymidget on July 31, 2011, 04:18:27 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on July 31, 2011, 03:07:06 AM

Valid Query bots never deserve to win anyway  :trollface
Bulldozer should have won, grah

Fever deserved it the most :P

Nah, bulldozer FTW :P

Bulldozer got unlucky, but Valid Query did deserve the win. Now BOT.

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