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Title: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 15, 2010, 08:04:36 PM
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/firestorm94/TheTrials2.png)
 
Summer is starting soo I might as well get the discussion going and the awards end tomorrow so...
 
Tournament Rules
 
1. Two bots start off in the King of the Hill match (1:00 minute match) in the Hill Top Arena. The goal here is to get more points than your opponent. If the tournament has 30 entries, the bot with the lowest points will be eliminated from the tournament.
 
2.  The second part will be on the SMALL ARENA same as before, damage the trialbot as much as you can, I'll make another trialbot though, if the bot miraculously beats both bots (which I doubt), the decision will depend on points. This event will be 2 minutes. After this, the points rom the KoTH part will be summed up with the points from this trial and the bot with the most points moves on.
 
3. Then the heat will end up with 2 bots, those 2 will fight it out in the fight to the finish arena (I found it here a while ago) and here's how it works; two bots start high above on the platform and they will fight it out for 3 minutes and the bot that gets destroyed, immobilized, or pushed out will be eliminated and the winner will go to the finals.

Rules:
1. NAR AI Lightweight
2. Realistic Rule Applies.
3. No cheatbot2 or custom components.
4. No SnSs (won't do good in the KoTH part anyways).
5. No crawlers.
6. Please AI your own bots, if you can't then I will AI the bots (if anyone's willing to help me with AIing, that would be awsome).
7.NO WHINING ABOUT THE BOT AI BEING SCREWY UNLESS THERE IS BELIEVABLE EVIDENCE AND NOT SOMETHING STUPID (I think we all know why this rule was added).
8. Multibots are NOT allowed (due to the fact that if there's a tie).
9. No havok prone bots.
10. No AAM or BFE.
11. No flamethrowers.
12. Only bot types allowed are Horizontal Spinners, Rammers, Face Spinners, Axes, Drums (small discs in rows are acceptable), Pokers,  Lifters (NOT FLIPPERS) By lifters, something like Sentinel (stock version), True Popups (1 or 2 spikes only), Side Hammers (not side axes) .
 
I might allow 30 entries, or 16..I'm not sure yet, you guys can decide if you want.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: G.K. on May 16, 2010, 02:45:47 AM
Looks good.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Naryar on May 16, 2010, 06:11:49 AM
Hah ! I already know what to build for this ! PWN !!! I challenge you for the best true popupz in the competitition !!!

I guess it's NAR AI v2.2 and you're not waiting for v2.3 ?
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Pwnator on May 16, 2010, 06:19:45 AM
Lolz Wynaut?

But I'm still worried that the bot's too low for KOTH. XD
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: G.K. on May 16, 2010, 06:22:53 AM
That's 3 true popups then. :P

EDIT: LOL! Popups aren't allowed guys.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Badnik96 on May 16, 2010, 06:35:36 AM
I shall enter Final Z and PWN you all! muahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: G.K. on May 16, 2010, 06:37:07 AM
Do you really think that?
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on May 16, 2010, 06:40:17 AM
I had the perfect robot for this but it doesn't allow gut ripper / juggler robots
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Naryar on May 16, 2010, 06:40:47 AM
That's 3 true popups then. :P

EDIT: LOL! Popups aren't allowed guys.

He said lifters are allowed... so any wedged bot with just one BSG can enter... and the second part is "damage the trialbot as much as you can"... so the bots must have weapons... hence, wedged bot with bursts and weapons = true popup... no ?

Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Badnik96 on May 16, 2010, 06:42:46 AM
Do you really think that?
Yes, I do, G.K., yes I do.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on May 16, 2010, 06:49:12 AM
Final Z will fail in the KOTH round since its the hill top arena
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Badnik96 on May 16, 2010, 06:51:02 AM
but you can still KO people right?
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on May 16, 2010, 07:12:46 AM
yes but I would predict it would continuously ricochet off the hill
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Naryar on May 16, 2010, 08:22:52 AM
I agree with joey.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Badnik96 on May 16, 2010, 08:37:32 AM
OK, I'll modify it with stronger drive.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Naryar on May 16, 2010, 08:48:51 AM
It's not that (it has a drive strong enough already) but most HS are not fitted for KOTH matches.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 16, 2010, 06:14:13 PM
Hah ! I already know what to build for this ! PWN !!! I challenge you for the best true popupz in the competitition !!!

I guess it's NAR AI v2.2 and you're not waiting for v2.3 ?
When is 2.3 coming out?
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Naryar on May 16, 2010, 06:17:16 PM
Technically 3 days but i might wait a few more days if i don't get all builder teams done :P

But v2.3 will have plenty of changes (battery issues, wheel balance) so it might be too soon to start a v2.3 tournament yet.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 16, 2010, 06:41:38 PM
I rather let this one be v2.2
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 18, 2010, 10:15:56 AM
DP (sorry)
So I'm guessing everyone's okay with the idea? If anyone has an idea for a trial I'll take it to consideration.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: G.K. on May 18, 2010, 10:30:54 AM
Are True Popups allowed or not?
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on May 18, 2010, 10:35:05 AM
IMO True Pop Ups = Pop Ups.

its just a variant

same as SSG only allowing me to enter my Flail Hammer or Normal Hammer in TAR not both as they were considered the same bot type
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 18, 2010, 10:41:43 AM
I'm gonna be a bit more strict with the rules this time
 
Side hammers are allowed
True popup-like lifters can only have atleast 2 irons, razors etc.
 
Signups might start tomorrow so you guys can start asking as many questions as you have now and so you guys can give me ideas for a trial event.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: JoeBlo on May 18, 2010, 10:51:42 AM
True popup-like lifters can only have atleast 2 irons, razors etc.

you mean at most right ?
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 18, 2010, 10:52:30 AM
True popup-like lifters can only have atleast 2 irons, razors etc.

you mean at most right ?
right, thanks for the correction lol
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on May 18, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
Is NAR AI very different from DSL?  I haven't yet had a chance to try it out
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: G.K. on May 18, 2010, 01:17:48 PM
Mostly, components are rebalanced, and some darkrat ones are added.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 18, 2010, 01:30:04 PM
Yup, that's pretty much it, I'd like to see you enter sonny, seeing as your the champion from the first series, its a chance for you to defend your title.
 
Also, like the first series, the heats and splash will be on available for download.
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: G.K. on May 18, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
*insert robosmiley here*
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 18, 2010, 01:34:35 PM
I'm guessing you enjoyed that the first series was up for download? lol jk
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: G.K. on May 18, 2010, 01:35:11 PM
You are correct, it was the most despicable thing anyone has ever done. :P
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: GoldenFox93 on May 18, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
I might have a go at this.

*Thinks of the possibility of building a robot with a lifting shovel*
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on May 18, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
Yup, that's pretty much it, I'd like to see you enter sonny, seeing as your the champion from the first series, its a chance for you to defend your title.
 
Also, like the first series, the heats and splash will be on available for download.

Lol, that will be a daunting task seeing as I've never even downloaded Nar AI.  Might enter just for the heck of it.

Which arena do you mean by the 'small" arena, and where can i get it?
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: G.K. on May 18, 2010, 03:10:10 PM
The arena used in Combatants 1, BBENAS 3 and probably other tournaments.

You can find it on http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/)
Title: Re: RA2 Trials 2 Tournament Discussion
Post by: S.T.C. on May 19, 2010, 02:01:52 PM
Just wanna point out here that signups are now up.