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Robot Arena Matches => Tournaments => Tournament Archives => Topic started by: infiniteinertia on April 10, 2009, 10:43:03 AM
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A tournament different from all the rest...where one builder emerges victorious from the rest...the builder who is most well ready to adapt to any bot challenge thrown at him...only managing to build the best...ARE YOU THIS BUILDER?
Welcome to the inaugural season of RA2: Brawl of the Builders. This is a tournament unlike any other, where only the best will emerge victorious from 'all the rest.' With 16 competitors building, designing, and fighting with all that they have to become the Ultimate Builder. Each builder will be seeded in this field of 16 based on predicted outcome...only they can live up to their own hype as they must will themselves to fight off their opponents.
Each one of the four rounds of this tournament, builders will be given a selected type of robot to design and build. They must do the best given the circumstances to build the best that they can come up with. After building, each bot will be sent to me, and then screenshots of each bot in each head to head match up will be posted by me, so the community can discuss as I AI each bot for the ultimate test; a best of 3 series to determine robot supremacy.
4 rounds, 4 bots, 16 builders. Who will rise to the top? It could be you...enter today!
(Rules Subject to Change)
BRACKET:
SEASON ONE: STOCK
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27274BOB1.jpg)
SPLASH (NEW 6/22/09)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/87050brawl1.jpg
2nd ROUND:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/716762nd Round.bmp
FIGHTS!
http://www.youtube.com/user/infinitexinertia
ENTRANTS(16; CLOSED):
-Sage
-Scrap Daddy
-Jack Daniels
-Main Menu
-WhammetNutt
-System 32
-40757
-Ianh05(Replaced by SomeStrangeGuy)
-R1885
-MikeNCR
-R0B0SH4RK
-Somebody
-Naryar
-JoeBlo
-Oggie
-Craaig
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Interesting...I'll enter.
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Reminds me of a contest on Technex's forums. 6 competitors build a bot from a prebuilt chassis. Make a splash, and the judges decide how good the bot is on a scale of 1 to 5 (I think it was)
Never took off, really. And since this has the battling aspect, this probably will.
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Reminds me of a contest on Technex's forums. 6 competitors build a bot from a prebuilt chassis. They then make a splash, and the judges decide on how good the bot is on a scale of 1 to 5.
Never took off, really. BUT, since this has the battling aspect, this probably will.
Grammar Nazi Week!
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Grammar Nazi Week!
Yaaaaaayyyy! Purification!
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You are doing the AI?
Excellent... I would like to enter thanks.
Any chance you can give us an idea how long we have to design and submit bots after the guidelines are issued?
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You are doing the AI?
Excellent... I would like to enter thanks.
Any chance you can give us an idea how long we have to design and submit bots after the guidelines are issued?
You have 2 days after the Class and Type are announced to send in your bot. While this may be quick, it's to keep the tournament running smoothly.
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I'm always up for a tourney.
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If theres space, lol, i'll enter (even though i'll get beaten)
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Brill. I've got about 30 designs already made, I'll enter.
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Brill. I've got about 30 designs already made, I'll enter.
i think he makes a chassis and we need to build a robot from it. good chance I'll enter.
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I think he tells us a random weight and bot type and tells is to make a bot and submit it to him.
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I'm up for this. Sign me up.
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JD- it will be a two to three day period to submit your bot.
Ian- No, this is not like BTEST, maybe sometime in the future?
Entrants updated
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I'll enter (so you can remove ?), and i think something like BTEST where the robots actually fight would be cool.
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I'm in.
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I shall join.
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I'll enter (so you can remove ?), and i think something like BTEST where the robots actually fight would be cool.
It'll be cool with Naryar complaining about chassis space on half the contestants.
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JD- it will be a two to three day period to submit your bot.
Ian- No, this is not like BTEST, maybe sometime in the future?
Entrants updated
BTEST.. that was what it was called.
Anyway, no, I'm not in this one.
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When does it start?
As long as its not from Monday to Saturday next week then thats ok for me (On hols with no internet conection as such)
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I'll join in.
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I shall also join.
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Yay, Roboshark is gonna be in. This pleases me.
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Imma enterr !
I like this "same bot type" idea, inf. Makes for each builder practicing his overall bot building skills.
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If anyone noticed, this idea came from me and Inf's design challenges we used to do.
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3 spots left...
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This is stock right?
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indeed so...even if i failed to mention
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I see.....
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Well, i may get the odd bit of time on the net next week, but i dont know about bot building as such (Yes i have RA2 on my LT, but it can be laggy)
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You have 2 days after the Class and Type are announced to send in your bot. While this may be quick, it's to keep the tournament running smoothly.
I won't enter because i'm not sure, because of my job, family and friends, to have enough time to build a bot in 2 days and i would not like to freeze that contest.
anyway, i appreciate the idea of quick built bots.
i will follow this contest as simple spectator.
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When's the tourney starting? If it overlaps BBots I'll have to withdraw, as there's no way I'll have time to build RA2 bots.
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Trying to get it going Mike as fast as I can, I could easily delay it for you, as Whammet probably needs a delay as well!
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DAMNIT WE NEED 3 ENTRIES...It will be fun! The next big sucsessful tourney...
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I would join if I had a computer here in the army. I will get my laptop when I get home april 27th, so I can join then if you don't get any.
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Ill be happy to fill up a space if you want? I visit the site at least once a day
if you do want me in then.....
If there is going to be DSL can someone outline the parts that cant be used (I haven't used DSL for showcases and tournaments only for my own personal use)
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Oggie, it probably wont start until after then if you are interested.
JoeB, its up to you if you want to enter...not me.
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Ok then count me in this one :-D I love the idea behind it infinite
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I don't got much else to do with my spare time, so you can add me to the list.
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So is this tournament canceled or what?
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need 2 more entries i think, 1 more if Oggie is in.
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I'm in as long as it doesn't start before the 27th, as that's when I'm back on a computer. And to be honest it doesn't seem to start before that time.
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Damnit 40757 when I get one more entrant I will set a start date.
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Sorry Inf. I've just been noticing that threads die out unless somebody bumps it again :approve:
And that I've been looking forward to this tourney for a while.
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If no-one'll fill that space, I'll enter for some 'fail lolz'. :D
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CLOSED.
Will PM Nary, Whammett, Oggie and MikeNCR inquiring about when they would like the tournament to begin.
Probably going to extend deadline to five days each round, no?
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That's a cool idea, gives me a bit more time to sort a decent robot out for each round
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ATTENTION:
Now that I have conformation that Naryar is back, this competition will begin THURSDAY APRIL 30th, 2009.
Brackets will be up Tuesday.
Also, I DID extend the deadline to five days instead of two.
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Thanks for extending the deadline. I think the extra time will be most appreciated for those of us that have pretty busy lives.
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Yes it will be appreciated Very much :biggrin:
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yes big thanks from me too, with a overload of work and running clash cubes too really bogged me down but should be all good and ready for when it starts :-D
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game time!
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It should be XD
I haven't even seen the brackets yet, have they been put on some secret website? lol
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hold your horses, theyll be up soon
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Hope everyone likes the bracket and the seeding.
First round will be: MIDDLE WEIGHT FACE SPINNERS
Good Luck to all!
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arrr!!! Sage round 1 :shock:
also what is a face spinner ? lol (sorry for the newbish question)
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@Joe: Billy Boat Gruffier or Rabid Pit Bull are face spinners, as well as Jack Daniels's Hellbringer and ACAMS's bot Magnum.
Or R1885's last showcased bot...
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@Inf: Bracket is fine for me. Face spinners... not very good at 'em, but i might be able to build a good wedge.
Will get my entry in sunday evening.
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Baha. I'd better check on what's a face spinner also >.< I'm gonna get pwned :-L
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Thanks for your efforts Inf. Looks cool.
Ian is out though... what happens when a builder does not make a bot? Does he essentially forfeit the match?
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Coal Miner is also an example of a face spinner if you dont know any of the bots Nar said.
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if y'all didnt know already, this is STOCK. it was prettty clear, but in case some of yas newbz were thinking like one of ya out there, it is in fact STOCK.
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Clear ??? in my defense the word "stock" wasn't specified anywhere in this topic until you put in in the first post today, everybody makes mistakes so you dont really need talk about your entrants like that don't forget they make to tournament possible :-D
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I guessed it was stock because it didn't mention anything :P
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3 bots in and AIed
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Mines done w00t. Most annoying bot ever to build. I think i messed up at least 25 times before i got it all right.
EDIT: AHGGGG!! It doesn't perform very well. Back to the drawing boards.
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Mine is in. It isn't very good and won't go far. I'm not a FS builder.
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/99876screenshot_51.jpg)
Here's the arena skin.
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Wait Inf don't AI mine. I have a new one that is way better. I will be sending it tomorrow.
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ooook.
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Mine's in. Here's hoping it doesn't suck.
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/99876screenshot_51.jpg)
Here's the arena skin.
Very nice.
On a sidenote, my entry got put in yesterday. It's more than likely to be terrible.
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I just sent my entry in. It was pretty hard to get under the weight limit though, probobly took me like 30 minutes just doing that.
Also inf, It'd be great if you can tell me when Sombody's bot is AIed so I can showcase mine.
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expect an entry in something like 15 hours... sorry, i am pretty occupied these days.
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Woohoo! Just seen the brackets and I get SD in my first round! Lucky me! Anyway sorry I kinda forgot about this tourney. Will get building soon. Expect a pile of poop.
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i forfeit, unable to compete =(
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aw. that sucks.
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Should I fill in for Ianh then?
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hmm... i'd ask Inf.
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Thats exatly why I posted the question here! And you do not need to post after every single post others make, ok?
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GO ahead SSG! But you only has 2 days!
With that said...there is two days left! I will be sending everyone who has not submitted a PM reminder!
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I'm glad I got nothing to lose and all to win in this fight, as building a decent MW FS was a lot harder then I thought. Bot finally done and sent though. Good Luck all!
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Just Nary, Whammett (who I dont think is sending a bot), and Main Menu (if he has learned how to read)
EDIT: R1885 too.
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Heh, I think people have it in their head Face Spinners need to have fast weapon motors. :]
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(WINK)
24 hours till entry time closes.
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Well I do have one, but the wedges aren't very good. But heck, if there's something i don't build it's face spinners...
Will rebuild it and we'll see how it fares then.
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Sorry Inf, didn't reply because I was in a bit of a rush. Will be sending my entry now. Expect more garbage.
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My new FS will be ready in a couple hours...
... if it doesn't works then i'll send you the old one, with average wedges...
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Why do all FS have to have a wedge?
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They don't, but you're pretty much stuffed if somebody has a wedge and you don't...
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A wedgeles FS with irons and a snowplough vs a wedged FS with razors.... Hmm...
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FS = gut ripper. Gut ripper = wedge And so, FS = wedge.
If you don't believe me, go and see this fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JBXooLMBI&feature=channel_page)
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^great example.
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Nitpick: The Wedged FS pinned it up against the wall with its HPZ drive. Anyway, to appease these Know it alls shall we call them Gut Spinners? Last I checked, pure FS attack the Face, not the underside. Thus, Face spinners.
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@S32: they are called face spinners because they have their weapons on the front (face), not because they attack the face.
Face spinners are made to be gut rippers. The lifting effect and continuous grinding damage is the mark of a gut ripper. Find and check TDS's tutorials.
@Sage: I have another video in my mind that i'm ITCHING to post a link to now... i suppose you guessed what it is?
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The RA2 rickroll, drat.
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I feel no embarrassment for that. My bot flipped itself and didn't have a working srimech. Big woop?
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I already tried the Irons vs Razor wedge. Irons always loses, even when castor armored.
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Need 3 more. I guess I dont expect ones from r1885 or Whammet but NARY HURRY
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C'mon Ribbs... get your ass in gear. I want to earn my way up :P
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Sent
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Sent
Most excellent man, you make me proud.
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Sorry MikeNCR for Whammett not showing...I'll send you public/private feedback regardless.
NARY, I WILL BE DISAPPOINTED
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Sent.
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FS = gut ripper. Gut ripper = wedge And so, FS = wedge.
If you don't believe me, go and see this fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JBXooLMBI&feature=channel_page)
I just cant make a good wedge, wich is why I suck at making FS, everything I try always fails. Such as my entry now.
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I with you 100% on that one, the whole wedge concept just went out the window with this bot... probably going to be the death of me up against someone like Sage :-D
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Man, it was a tough call with my bot... I wanted a wedge and 8 irons, but could not pull it off within the time limit. Once I finally got a stable enough design, I ended up with a FS sporting 8 razors, a wedge, and side shields/guides to boot... It is still not as effective as I wanted. I have a feeling that Ribbs will probably have something better for our match.
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WELL! All builders got their bots in before midnight last night. (SORT OF)
I will have a splash up soon!
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MM can you send me your bot again? I accidentallly deleted your PM trying to make PM space. Other than that everything is ready to go.
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Mines a bit like my new RL Antweight, made in just a few seconds!
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Mines a bit like my new RL Antweight, made in just a few seconds!
Lies! You cannot make a new bot in seconds! Anywho I sent my bot again Inf.
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Well, maybe you can't...
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my fastest time me thinks was around 5 minutes...
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I won BOTM once with a bot i made and splashed in 10 minutes.
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well, your experienced. you have the right :-D
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Splash up on first page.
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Looks good...
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I'm not liking all of these singular wedge bots...
The best are Sage's Baby Bull, Scrap's Impending Doom, and Ribbs' Wedge-no-More.
I'm terrible at building FS's, so I have no idea how mine's going to do.
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I hope low ground clearance and a DDT wedge will help my bot.
SD3 is totally realistic because AFAIK, bots with fixed weapons and drive (not wobbling on snappers) have better wedges and are generally more stable.
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Lol, I'm gonna get munched :D
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I have 2 high school baseball games today, so I will try and do half of the videos tonight.
When this round is all said and done, I'll do a compilation of an assortment fights I will do to determine the ranking of each bot this round 1 through 16 (No Effect on tournament, just will give each builder an idea how their building fares against everyone each round).
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Round 1 Predictions:
Naryar VS Oggie- This one should be a pretty good fight. Both bots are pretty well built. All it will come down to is whos got the better wedge and I think Naryar does.
Winner: Naryar
S32 VS SSG- Another pretty equally matched fight. I think S32 will win though due to the wedge.
Winner: S32
R0B0SH4RK VS Craaaig- Hehe, this one probably won't last long but Craaig might get to Parasite's side.
Winner: RS
Whammet VS MikeNCR- Lucky draw for Mike. Wedgeless FS probably aren't going to do so great but hes got the better built bot here.
Winner: MikeNCR
Me VS ManManu- I'm actually shocked at how decent MM's bot actually is. I think I have the better wedge though.
Winner:Scrap Daddy
4057 VS Somebody- Both bots are pretty much the same but I think Extended Warranty should be able to get under Murken
Winner: Somebody
Sage VS JoeBlo- JoeBlo has a decent bot but Sage's is much better
Winner: Sage
RIBBS VS Jack Daniels- This one will be just like Naryar's and Oggie's fight. It will come down to who has the better wedge.
Winner: RIBBS
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I agree SD I think your wedge is better but you never know, should be a good fight anyways.
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Manu if your bot was invertible or had a working srimech I would be even more impressed on the quality of your bot...
First vids up soonish.
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Sweet.
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Naryar VS Oggie- Oggie's got decent defenses... and a much smaller chassis. I give his bot the edge in this match.
Winner: Oggie
S32 VS SSG- Wedges against extra weapons. I think the wedge will be the decisive factor.
Winner: S32
R0B0SH4RK VS Craaaig- I'm sorry robo... as awesome as i think your bot is... I think Craaaig made his just narrow enough to sneak in between your wedges.
Winner: Craaaig
Whammet VS MikeNCR- Irons ftw
Winner: MikeNCR
Me (actually... not me... Scrap Daddy... I totally plagarized his comment because I didn't want to type everything out..) VS ManManu- Remember the scene in Return of the Jedi where Boba Fett crashes and lands right in the mouth of that hungry, ground dwelling, sand creature thing? Yeah... that's this match pretty much.
Winner:Scrap Daddy
4057 VS Somebody- pretty equal bots here... its a toss up. I give the edge to the double wedge.
Winner: Somebody
Sage VS JoeBlo- Call me crazy, but i think the irons are gonna tear off Sage's razors quick. This is totally a dark horse pick for me, but it is my gut feeling.
Winner: JoeBlo
RIBBS VS Jack Daniels- Ribbs was probably smart and mounted his wedge on a solid mount... mine is mounted to a snapper. I have watched my bot in action and the wedge is far from superior.
Winner: RIBBS
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Me VS ManManu- Remember the scene in Return of the Jedi where Boba Fett crashes and lands right in the mouth of that hungry, ground dwelling, sand creature thing? Yeah... that's this match pretty much.
Winner:Scrap Daddy
?? =P
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?? =P
hahah oops... i cut/pasted from Scrap's comment
Yeah, i was lazy like that.
(edited)
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Naryar VS Oggie- Nary may cause some upset... are those weapons bursted?
Winner: Nary
S32 VS SSG- A peice of sh** with a wedge is still a piece of sh**. I know, I built that piece of sh**.
Winner: SSG
R0B0SH4RK VS Craaaig- As long as craaaig doen't do broadside the R0B0's bot may lose.
Winner: Craaaig
Whammet VS MikeNCR- Big chassis, few weapons, possibly powered by redbirds... I hope they are chained.
Winner: MikeNCR
Scrap VS ManManu- fight RPB against the old Predator. You'll get the same results.
Winner:Scrap Daddy
40757 VS Somebody- 2 wedges means 2 chances to fail.
Winner: 407
Sage VS JoeBlo- Poor sage, bad luck.
Winner: JoeBlo
RIBBS VS Jack Daniels- R8 If it is on a solid mount it ain't a good wedge.
Winner: RIBBS
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Only thing i am sure of is that Sage will win against JoeBlo and Mike will win against Wham. All the rest is on the wedges... and it's hard to judge wedginess.
Also S32, nothing is bursted in my bot. The drive is attached to the chassis (you guessed it) and the weapon HPZ's are attached to baseplate anchors. SD3 is entirely realistic.
It makes it stabler, and i bet this will enhance my wedginess.
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4057 VS Somebody- 2 wedges means 2 chances to fail.
Winner: Oggie
huh?
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S32, im pretty sure you have the win here, anything with a wedge/wedged chassis goes under mine.
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huh?
WIN.
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Don't confuse me more than I already am ._.
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Wha-wha-da-wha..?
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Thanks Jack Daniels and System32 nice to have support in the tournament predictions ... I think I may have a chance if Baby Bull doesn't manage to tear up the bottom of my bot, to keep the discs off the ground I used more iron spikes so at least it will go down fighting :-D
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First vids up soonish.
I guess you got another definition of soon than I got. Anyways I'm looking forward to the matches.
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GameCam is being retarded as sh** so I'm gonna ask Sage for a full version of Fraps that works with Vista. Sorry guys.
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I have problems with my game cam when starting to record clash cubes so i ditched it and Madiaba helped me get set up with fraps :-D
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Thanks Jack Daniels and System32 nice to have support in the tournament predictions ...
I agree with this completely. I was expecting to get/be predicted to get mangled.
This has given me some hope, if only in vain. Lol.
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I'll send you fraps in a sec inf.
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which is better fraps or hypercam2
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FRAPS by a mile.
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can one of you send me full fraps for xp
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Sage sent me full fraps but it doesnt work. I'll try and deal with gaYmecam.
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I got Fraps 2.6 if you want it. 2,49MB large as .rar.
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Sorry for the long delay. NARY (not SAGE :P) saved the day by sending me FRAPS. Did about half the vids after tweaking the AI to what I think is good (not a good AIer). Will have all matches edited and uploaded *DONT KNOW WHERE* tomorrow.
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Youtube?
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that's always a popular choice
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I'm guessing you having got round to this yet, Inf?
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All vids are done, just got to string them together unfancily.
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Awesome. Can't wait !
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The vids will be up this weekend. Blame it on school and baseball<3
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Damn you school and/or baseball!
How about posting results/the next rounds bot type so things keep moving.
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Damn you school and/or baseball!
How about posting results/the next rounds bot type so things keep moving.
NEVER DAMN BASEBALL
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I used to play Baseball, then I......
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...QUIT.
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and the train has derailed ... or make that the topic... anyway back on topic im seriously cant wait for the videos this is the most excited I have ever been in a tournament (then again it is my second lol)
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Anyway, it's friday, so the vids will probably be up within the next two days.
Goddamn baseball.
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*is curious about the videos*
Anything up yet?
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After a horrendous weekend filled with baseball, afflictions a many, and parental-type responsibilites, I can now GUARANTEE you that everything will be up late tonight - early tomorrow.
There were some heart stoppers, some arm benders, and a surprise or two.
Remember, I will also inform everyone about which bot I think was best, to which one I thought was worst (Ranked 1 through 16).
Glad everyone's excited.
After this tourney we will work out official rules depending what works bet for the rest of this tournament. I will also develop a ranking system based on match victories and overall bot rank/per round.
Hope I'm keeping you all on the edge of your seats...
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Hope I'm keeping you all on the edge of your seats...
Im on the edge of my seat........ very uncomfortable :biggrin:
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First round videos are up!
http://www.youtube.com/user/infinitexinertia
^^Look for your match there!
1-16 rankings will be up later, as well as an updated bracket.
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Finally =)
Sucks that I'm out after first round tho. My biggest fear was getting thrown around by a stable bot. Seems like I was right on that at least.
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I think Crazy 8's may have been a hair too fast =P
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I'm overwhelmed from my bots aggression. Keep it that way next time too, it was great :D
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Wow! My bot was totally clobbered. Nice fight Ribbs! Hell of a drive on that bot of yours.
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So who forfieted the Sage vs JoeBlo match? I'm not quite sure who won.
Also: yay, I won (:
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I'm just happy i didn't get whitewashed lol congrats R0B0 =)
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yeah im a little confused with my match
First round sage had a havok… restart and I got the win
Second round sage won
Third round sage had a havok…. Then this is what could have happened ?
Does that mean sage was out for 2 many havoks?
(I also won the 2nd restart if that was taken in to account)
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So who forfeited the Sage vs JoeBlo match?
I was wondering that too...
Also it seems i built my wedge right, and Impending Doom scares me.
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Both havok explosions were caused by Hypno Blender.
I wasn't sure at first which bot caused the havok, but after numerous tests with other bots in ehxhibition matches, Hypno Blender caused similar explosions when also losing external Zteks/HP Zteks. Crazy 8's also had similar issues.
Rankings and analysis up later for y'all.
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well congrats to Sage for the win it was kind of expected but that second "havok" my bot didn't loose any Z-Teks, 3:56 - 3:57 I watched it over and over and there is seriously no explanation for that one Baby Bull tossed hypno blender in the air and on the way down hit baby bull tipping it over (don't ask me how though) maybe for future matches get the view a little higher infinite and it might make things easier to sort out. but yes I wont deny my robot did cause the first havok, funny thing its only against other face spinners though (tested it against a few starcore AI)
any way Game On the videos look great Infinite real nice work
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Nice matches, didnt think that my bot could stand against a wedged bot. Also I forgot to mention, Minesweeper cant read, so it used the Rear Entry :P
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I knew I was going to lose. wedges are useful, but adding them to anything doesn't make it the Next NWB. You should use them wisely, and constructively. I would have been better off with a snowplough, IMO.
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Well, after the mauling of Teeth grinder, my next opponent is Baby Bull, the exact bot mine was built to kill.
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umm don't you have to build a different bot type for the next round ? lol that was my understanding anyway
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Bugger, i lost, i have no luck with building bots.
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No, this bracket runs, then the next bot type has to be built.
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Ok, then.
BULL S**T
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cool so I have a chance to redeem my terrible tournament luck :-D lol
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Aww. The first tournament that I actually have a decent bot gets knocked out in the first round... Good fight though.
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No, this bracket runs, then the next bot type has to be built.
False, next round is a different type of bot.
I will have the rankings up VERY shortly, with analysis.
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cool so I have a chance to redeem my terrible tournament luck :-D lol
thought so.... that means my legend lives on lol
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*1. Impending Doom – Scrap Daddy
Analysis: For a long time, I have had a lot of faith in Scrap Daddy. I’ve seen him edge closer and closer to becoming a great builder. Well, this solidifies it. He was asked to build a bot in minimal time, and he adjusted and produced a beast in the clutch. Impending Doom is the middle weight counterpart of Rabid Pit Bull, beats everything but most HSers. This is no doubt a Starcore caliber bot. Scrap Daddy is a scary builder, and could run away with this tournament if the other #1 seeds don’t adjust.
*2. Sarcastic Demeanor 3 – Naryar
Analysis: An almost flawless bot. Sarcastic Demeanor 3 has avery good wedge, great weapon setup, well built, well balanced, fast enough, and quick enough. There really isn’t much to say, Nary is a top of the line builder, we all know that now. This is no doubt awarded by me to be a Starcore caliber bot.
3. Wedge No More – R1885
Analysis: Close to as surprising as JoeBlo’s entry. Does R1885 belong as a top builder? This bot beat out almost everything, and looked good doing so. Just watch his video from Round One! The long wedge, wide wheels, speed, agility; this bot has basically all it needs. However, the reason I do not believe R1885 is a top 5 builder is because he still didn’t do a lot of things right. This bot is not invertible, and not good at high speed collision with similar bots, possibly because its weight isn’t very evenly distributed. With that said, this was a very impressive bot from R1885, and with a few minor tweaks, could be Starcore caliber.
4. Murken – 40757
Analysis: This bot did better than I expected, but was not a huge surprise. This bot does surprisingly well against higher caliber bots in this tournament. With that said, either it’s wheelbase is too great, or I did something wrong AIing it, because it oversteers. It would be better with a little longer wedge, and wider weapon motors. However, this is a great showing by 40757, proving he belongs.
5. Baby Bull – Sage
Analysis: This bot is proof that one design flaw affects overall performance. The weapons disks were angled too much, allowing more powerful, more durable weapons to grab them, and ease the process of getting under. The wedges also, were very average. That saying, this was still a good bot, and beats ¾ of the field. It looks like a Starcore caliber bot, but is not. Is Sage better represented as a two seed caliber builder? I think not.
6. Hypno Blender – Joe Blo
Analysis: I believe this bot, by far, performed the most surprisingly out of any bot in this tournament. This manhandled even bots with wedges, and was the best of the ones without wedges. This bot was slow and very stable. It had strong durable weapons, and somehow managed to lift many bots. The only thing I would way about this bot would be that valuable weight was waisted on Iron Spike supports where an extender would suffice, and the gay N12s. Very impressed with JoeBlo’s submission.
7. Minesweeper – Somestrangeguy
Analysis: A slightly – rather greatly – improved Minesweeper looked pretty sexy on the dancefloor. Imagine this thing with one lone wedge…However, this bot did really well the way I see it. It performed the way it needed to, and was certainly enough to get it into the next round. The only downside is that it did not benefit from being slower and more controlled than other bots, as Hypno Blender.
8. Crazy 8’s – Mike NCR
Analysis: Out of the three good non-wedge FS’s, MikeNCR’s is the worst. It looks good, but it kills itself more than almost anyone else. It’s fast, and does get under things, but it doesn’t trap well and likes to sit dangerous bots right on top of it. It’s unstable, and rather havoky. It wasn’t a bad submission, however.
9. O.A.J. – Main Menu
Analysis: Considering this bot was built by Main Menu, it was not that bad. Given that, it was not that good either, but at least it was an effort. Given that, this thing could have been built better with minor tweaks. Its wedge was too inconsistent. Also, it was not invertible and had no working srimech. Is this showing that man manu’s career is going up?
10. Extended Warranty – Somebody
Analysis: A better entry from Somebody, but just not there yet. Its wedges were poor, and frankly just did not KO many bots. It was way too slow to take control of matches as well. And when it was inverted, it was funny to watch it srimech into fetal position.
11. No Rear Entry – System32
Analysis: If it weren’t for the irons on its weapon system, this would not be this high. By far, this was the worst wedge in the tournament. It was better than other wedged bots simply because its weapons were better. I’m kind of confused about this bots setup, because it is set up to fail.
12. The Parasite – R0B0SH4RK
Analysis: Tremendous disappointment. The Parasite made quick victims of its prey, but the problem was that it was the prey more than it was the predator. It’s wedge width was way to great for Middleweight competition, and liked to tip over backwards a lot. The middle of the bot was left wide open because the thing doesn’t trap, juggle, or maul. R0B0 got lucky, and needs to build like I know he can.
13. Relapse 2 Sequential Rhythm – Craaig
Analysis: Well, not entirely bad. A pretty good entry from what I have seen from Craaig. The downside to this bot is that it was awful navigating. It had no quickness or lateral movement…OK maybe I sound too much like an NFL scout…this thing was too slow in circles. Also, wedge SUCKED. Like No Rear Entry, failed hard with a sucky wedge.
14. Face Roller 2 – Oggie
Analysis: I think this was just the wrong entry Oggie submitted. He built other relatively good FS’s in his showcase, and should have submitted one of those. He crammed a lot of parts on Face Roller 2, but it is way to compact to be any effective. It is also very unbalanced, because its wheels do not keep the bot even to the ground. Oggie is a promising young builder, just a poor showing.
15. Teethgrinder – Jack Daniel
Analysis: It doesn’t look like a particularly bad bot, but it is. It looks decent in the bot lab, but just doesn’t perform. Teethgrinder is too damn slow to be any effective. It’s way too compact to be a FS as well. Its wedge is offcenter, and not wedgy at all.
16. Im Dead Arnt I – Whammet Nuht
Analysis: Well. Not much to say here, but Whammet’s entry was pretty dead. A hulking, slow, weakly weaponed bot is to blame. The thing really doesn’t see the light of day against anything. I thought Whammett would have done better in terms of building something effective.
*Denotes Starcore quality bots
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Now for the question on the minds of about 8 people, what bot type/class is next?
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I suck at building FSs. Wait till next time.
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Thanks for the honest assessment of my bot... your analysis propels me to work harder to be a better builder.
I Guess I should have tested it a bit more... Live and Learn Baby!
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The lower the seed you get out of the 4, the worse you're expected to do?
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The Parasite was designed to be a wedge breaker more than anything, but I admit, it was not the bot I should have sent. It, as Inf said, has serious design flaws that I should have picked up on much earlier.
I will not win this round, but next time I can guarantee that my entry will be top-3 calibre.
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wow 6 out of 16 that makes me feel better after my first round loss :-D
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Since it is almost midnight...the next round is Middleweight Vertical Spinners for those who advanced!
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Wait, I'm a bit confused about the format. Now do we build new bots for the 2nd round, or do we complete this bracket and have a MW FS champ, then another bracket with a MW VS champ?
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I knew DDT wedge and rubbers were a good idea.
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next round is a different type of bot.
That answers your question R0B0SH4RK
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the next round is Middleweight Vertical Spinners for those who advanced!
VS? Im dead... This is what I simply cant make well... But Ill do what I can, how much time do we have to build?
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Wait, so the people who lost are out, plain and simple?
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Wait, so the people who lost are out, plain and simple?
It seems so :P
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No losers bracket? Aww, And it got to a bot type I could actually build....
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'Tis a shame, but never mind.
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Wildcard from pys! bahaha
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I think Im going to enter VSFTW(try to guess where that came from)
But dont think Im not going to try my best.
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Damn it. Middleweight VS is harder than middleweight FS!
Inf can you update the bracket or something too? I can't watch the vids so I have no idea who won their fights.
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New and updated bracket is up on the first page.
I gave everyone an extra day to build, so you have until May 26th at 8:00 p.m.
Can an admin add this tournament to the list of tournaments on the home page?
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Sent in my entry. Here's hoping it's good enough to put up a decent fight.
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This one will be very challenging. Dunno what I should do =/
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You guys just wait till the final. I gave inf the hardest bot type, i think, ever.
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You guys just wait till the final. I gave inf the hardest bot type, i think, ever.
36 iron LW? Weaponless wedge? Walker? LW side hammer?
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LW juggler.
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LW juggler.
:)
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I have 2 entries. Tomorrow is the deadline...
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I gave everyone an extra day to build, so you have until May 26th at 8:00 p.m.
today is the 24
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You said the deadline was on the 26th to give us an extra day.
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My bad. But still!
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Yeah I know. I've been working on the bot the whole time though.
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Sent my entry. It's much better than the last one.
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I will come up with an entry in the next few hours... but i'm out of imagination.
Hopefully it will be decent.
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I was cleaning my inbox and I deleted the message I sent to you Inf containing the file for my bot. I'm not sure if it deleted in your inbox too since I'm still pretty new to this community so it'd be great if you could tell me.
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No 40757, it doesnt delete on others inbox, that would be just stupid if it did.
Only then it will delete on Infs inbox, when he deletes it.
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I got yours 40757.
Still need the likes of Sage, Naryar...
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Almost time to see how overrated I am when it comes to stock bots!
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Sent !
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I see a lot of Preatorian clones coming up next.
There could have ben a Chained preatorian clone somewhere....
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Mine isnt a clone of Preatorian. Speaking of wich, why is there only 1 MW VS in the whole Stacore pack? that made testing my VS kinda hard, since there was no other to test against.
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There's also Aedes.
Question to Inf: I didn't made, but could i just modify the controls and add a smartzone to make my bot a flipper hybrid?
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I'm sure one or two in this bunch would be worth consideration.
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I'm not really going to read everything said before this but:
Busy with baseball, just finished up district tournament for highschool, and I have the state tournament next week (as well as school), so with that said I will try and do fights this weekend, even though I have a weekend baseball tournament as well.
If you guys want your bindings from last round, ask before I toss 'em.
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Is the splash coming?
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I wish my answer was yes.
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So, any news?
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Yeah, amidst a lot of personal issues I will not be guaranteeing anything till 6/18.
Even though you guys do not know who won, I can give you what I was planning to assign as bot design for next round if you would like. Extended time + inspiration to build. If you guys would like.
Sorry, but INF. has been an idiot in life off the internet.
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I can give you what I was planning to assign as bot design for next round if you would like.
Why not ?
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SECOND SPLASH IS UP.
VIDS TOMORROW.
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:O Yay!
Hmm... I'm not really liking Sage's chances.
I think Scrap, myself, and Naryar will go on though. Mike's got a good bot, but mine eats single wedges for breakfast >:O
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Well whatever. I like my bot, that's all that matters.
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I like your bot too, just not your match-up.
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Yeah, i'm actually pretty impressed with RIBBS' bot.
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Yeah, i'm actually pretty impressed with RIBBS' bot.
meh...
heres a bot that inf built.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48766jwekgerf.jpg)
They look a lot alike.
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Personally I think sage will make it through. But thats just my opinion.
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You have a point. He pretty much cloned it completely when Inf said he liked it because he reminded him of one of his bots.
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Ribbs = Serial cloner ??
Anyways, methinks I, R0B0, Scrap and Ribbs will win.
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Gnahhhhhh I have all the vids and everything done but I am lazy and baseball is still gay, so I will not sleep until all of them are atleast put together.
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Vids just need to be uploaded.
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Almost time to watch me get my bot handed to me.
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I HATE YOUTUBE's VIDEO QUALITY.
But Round Two is up.
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One-sided matches ftw. But nice.
...You guys just watch, I'm going to rape R0B0 once again...
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Did I winz?
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CORNER RAPED.
Well, there's next time.
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:O YAY.
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Can someone remind me why I doubted Sage?
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Haha my motor kept getting destroyed as soon as we collided, but oh well.
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When is the analysis coming? Can't wait for my rank :D
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THE FINAL FOUR ARE READY. Ill get up last rounds rankings sometime later.
But for next round I would like to see:
LIGHTWEIGHT FS, VS, OR TS
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LWs!!!1 =D
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Heh, who would have tought taht the Vertical Spinner From The West would get 1 KO?
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So... I'm against Naryar again...
I'm 1-4 against him right now, so I'm kinda pissed at that. I've come to play this time. I'm not losing to him again.
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REMINDER: TOMORROW IS THE DEADLINE!
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Mine's sent.
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I'm lazy...
...expect a bot in a few hours.
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I better get one or i am starting without you and R0b0 will win.
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Sent.
Not very confident about the bot, but whatever. I'm occupied by NAR AI and a few other things...
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Any news?
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Well,
you just got back as my school started here. I waited for you to return, so I will try and do it this weekend, if baseball allows.
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The SemiFinal Matches have been added to the first Page.
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W00t!
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19765smalluberhappy.PNG)
You're next Sage >;D
GODDAM. FINALLY. I BEAT NARYAR.
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I'm sorry, you must have me confused with someone else. Because I plan on winning this here tourney, and not even a 1337 robotic shark can stop me. :)
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(http://yourargumentisinvalid.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/this_is_narnia.jpg)
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I'm not even going to angst here because i wasn't even planning on winning with the bot i entered.
And R0B0 if you don't beat that kid you are facing...
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(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76190jawssagerobo.jpg)
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win ^ that meme is going to get more popular then SFTW
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I hope so.
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Soooooo..............last round? infy is gone yes, but he can still film.
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I know someone else with a final round not yet uploaded :P
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I KNEW you were going to say that. XD I keep forgetting, sorry.... But at least I've filmed it.
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im just teasing Reier, I would rather you continue N00b Warz 2 :-D
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Well, if INF went on oovoo ONE more time he could tell me what his plan was for the last match, and me and ROBO could get this over with. Too bad he's being a sneaky bastard and staying off the computer. That, or he doesn't have a computer to stay off of :/