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No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« on: December 20, 2010, 11:28:17 PM »
I have to admit it, I hate wedges. The angle, the center of gravity, what its made from, how much weight you need, its all the tip of the ice berg really.
And no matter how well you built that wedge, its always going to be beaten by another wedge, and you might spring off the wall or the other guys inferior wedge.

So I would like to take that all out of the equation.

In this tournament, your goal is innovative designs and sportsman like conduct, not ripping your opponents to shreds.

General body of this is:

DSL heavy weight

16 entry, single elimination, best two out of three

Realistic rules, of course

No unrealistic glitches, no BFF, no burst boosting, no glitches period

Rules that only work to this tournament:

NO WEDGE SHAPES, NO PANELS THAT ARE FLUSH TO THE GROUND, NOTHING THAT CAN GET UNDER THE OTHER ROBOT. This includes, but not limited to:

  • Wedge shaped bodies,
  • External wedges,
  • Titanium half sheets(Why have them if there are no gut rippers?)
Excessively powerful weapons are not allowed(If you kill your opponent, you lose that match!)

No SnS

If you can build a pop up without a wedge, then by all means, be my guest

Flippers must be made using only non damaging components(must also fallow the no wedges rule as well)

If building a VS, it must only spin downwards

No flails


No flamethrowers


No suicide bots, if I can whack your bot and do over a quarter of its health worth of damage, it will be disqualified(Don't worry, it's going to somthing reasonable like a 70 kilo hammer)

It may sound boring, but its more like a gateway tournament, built to ease newer players into AI tournaments, while also challenging older players into restrictions they haven't had in a long time.
Remember, this is only a discussion, not a sign-up. I don't know if this will make it.
Oh, and FYI, yes I can AI the bots and Record the videos.
Feel free to discuss!
« Last Edit: May 21, 2011, 12:17:58 PM by R1885 »

Offline Sparkey98

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 11:34:49 PM »
I'll enter.


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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 11:51:03 PM »
sounds like robot bumper cars to me

you should use a table top arena otherwise I feel 2 stock AW robots would put on a better show

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 12:07:54 AM »
What about slightly-tapered chassis shapes?  One that are technically wedges but too steep to be any good.  Are they allowed?

Also, you might want to relax that "if you destroy your opponent you lose" rule because I'm thinking I could just enter a huge plastic box and win every match by default

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 12:10:04 AM »
HW? No Thanks.

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 12:34:10 AM »
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Excessively powerful weapons are not allowed(If you kill your opponent, you lose that match!)

Lol so this tournament is about how to get yourself killed?  Use double side aluminum maximize the likelihood of your chassis getting hit by the enemy?  Spam flamethrowers to get scores but not kill?

I don't like the sound of this at all.

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 02:22:25 AM »
Sounds to me that we are re-creating Robot Wars series 1. Boxes and small things with hammers.
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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 02:26:55 AM »
Yeah, I agree with pretty much everybody else here.
Howwever, having a tourney where wedges are banned, that sounds like an absolutely amazing idea that only a god could come up with  :mrgreen:

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 02:35:30 AM »
I would just limit the tourney to no metal hinge, skirt hinge, MKB wedges

Some of the rules sound OTT

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 02:44:25 AM »
Yeah, I agree with pretty much everybody else here.
Howwever, having a tourney where wedges are banned, that sounds like an absolutely amazing idea that only a god could come up with  :mrgreen:

I can build saws withouth wedges :D

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2010, 02:47:16 AM »
I was referencing my own tournament idea that everybody has probably forgotten about due to it not being posted in for a while  :ermm:
I'm hoping that's due to the idea being so perfect that nobody had anything left to say about itand that when we get to voting, everybody will suddenly remember again  :laughing

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2010, 06:41:12 AM »
I like R1885` RL tourneys .hope this doesn`t takes as long as "IRL" if this ever happens

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2010, 06:48:37 AM »
I don't know if this is a good idea or a awful one

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2010, 07:36:16 AM »
I like the idea, but I reckon some of the rules might need a little bit of fine-tuning. If this does get off the ground, I'm probably entering Valid Query 3.
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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2010, 08:20:49 AM »
Hmm sounds like the Sportsman Class

From the 2010 RFL Rule Set
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30-lb Sportsman Class1. A 30-lb robot may be entered in the “Sportsman” class if it complies with the additional rules in this section. Any 30-lb robot may be entered in the “standard” 30-lb class.
2.2.1. Intent. The intent of the Sportsman Class is to encourage novel designs and driving ability. The focus of this class is fun and creativity, not the annihilation of your opponent. Robots must comply with both the letter and spirit of these rules to qualify for this class.
2.2.2. Active Weapon Required. Sportsman class robots must have an active weapon. This is defined as a weapon or device intended for use in attacking the opponent, independent of the robot drive train. These include but are not limited to lifters, hammers, clamps, flame weapons and spinning weapons (within the limitations specified in 2.2.3)
2.2.3. Limitations on Spinning Weapons. Spinning weapons [are allowed] at this event. [Enter any additional restrictions or explanatory text regarding limitations here.] If allowed, weapons that can rotate continuously are permitted if and only if the edge/tip velocity does not exceed 500 surface feet per minute (SFM). Weapon SFM will be determined by tachometer prior to the start of the event using this formula:
SFM = RPM * πD
Flywheels and other spinning parts internal to the robot are allowed without limit, but may not act directly as weapons. For example, a flywheel-powered hammer or axe would be legal if the weapon arm did not move more than 360 degrees.
2.2.4. No Wedges. A “wedge” is any part of a robot that in any position is capable of elevating a flat sided box with ¼” of ground clearance more than ½” off the floor simply by sliding the wedge under the box when the robot in question is in any “normal” driving positions e.g. with its wheels on the floor.
2.2.4.1. Large plates extending from the robot that are flat or nearly flat to the floor are not allowed.
2.2.4.2. Other static devices which have the purpose of removing the opponent‟s wheels from the arena floor are not allowed.
2.2.5. Lifting, Flipping and Grabbing Weapons. An articulated “spatula”, parallel to the floor is allowed, provided that:
 It complies with the “no wedge” rule (2.2.4) and
 It is no more than ¼ the width of the robot (as measured across the wheels at their widest point) and
 It extends no more than 6” from the front edge of the robot.
2.2.6. Excessively Destructive Weapons. Weapons deemed too destructive by virtue of their mass, MOI or other characteristics may be further limited or disallowed at the discretion of the event. Please contact the event organizer concerning your design to avoid problems.
2.2.7. Standard RFL Rules Apply. Unless otherwise stated, all other standard RFL rules will apply. This includes walkers and their weight bonuses. However, a walker that uses the weight bonus for a spinning (or other) weapon that is too destructive will be disqualified.1

Might be interesting might not. It all depends on who enters.

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2010, 08:52:14 AM »
This sounds interesting. If it goes ahead, maybe I'll consider entering   :P



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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2010, 10:06:09 AM »
I liked the title. Then I saw you can't kill things or have powerful weapons and instantly fell out of love. What's the point, like others say, you might as well get yourself killed.
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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2010, 10:29:06 AM »
*Plans on entering a suicide bot*

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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2010, 10:30:29 AM »
Same here. Maybe I'll enter a joke bot for the fun of it.



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Re: No More Wedges Tournament Idea, Good idea?
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2010, 10:38:54 AM »
Heh, this will be wierd.


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