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Title: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 07, 2019, 10:02:13 AM
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Thought I'd develop a rather unusual tournament series- No Mind Devastation. A WS tournament where direction doesn't matter.
Here are the rules, setup, and guidelines.
General
> Ironforge IRL
> minimum of 16 entries.
> you may submit up to 2 Wandering Spinners.
Your Wandering Spinner
> your bot must be an Ironforge IRL Wandering Spinner, weighing anywhere from 50 to 200 kg.
> no cheating components are allowed.
> your WS must be COMPLETELY activated with a single switch and button. Label your button "Spin" and your switch "Activate."
> your WS must be able to tolerate abuse from bouncing off the arena walls for 3 min. WITHOUT BREAKING DOWN.
> I will be AIing your bot with a custom omni. Don't worry about forward heading.
the matches
> Each match will take place in the ring arena.
> each match will be 3 min. long.
> there will be both deathmatches and rumbles depending on how many entrants I receive.
> Havok explosions are the only causes of restarts in matches. Too many havoks, and I will disqualify your WS.
> I may not take vids of the matches, but I will take multiple screenshots!
> I will post results once the competition starts.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: pokebro14 on January 07, 2019, 11:47:18 AM
> Ironforge IRL
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 07, 2019, 12:09:05 PM
Signups will start soon. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Hoppin on January 07, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
Signups will start soon. Stay tuned.

Actually due to it being your first tourney, you'll need to set up a poll to see if people will enter.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 07, 2019, 12:41:34 PM
Signups will start soon. Stay tuned.

Actually due to it being your first tourney, you'll need to set up a poll to see if people will enter.

ah. Thank you.
How do you make a poll? select the "new poll" icon?
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: kix on January 07, 2019, 12:51:53 PM
IRL Wandering Spinner.
Kiddo wandering spinners dont function irl.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 07, 2019, 01:18:52 PM
IRL Wandering Spinner.
Kiddo wandering spinners dont function irl.

oh, THEY DO (I don't mean this in a flaming manner, I mean it in a stunning manner) They just use low-traction wheels and don't spin as fast because the spinner motors are geared down.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Hoppin on January 07, 2019, 01:19:09 PM
Signups will start soon. Stay tuned.

Actually due to it being your first tourney, you'll need to set up a poll to see if people will enter.

ah. Thank you.
How do you make a poll? select the "new poll" icon?

Yes
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: kix on January 07, 2019, 01:56:37 PM
IRL Wandering Spinner.
Kiddo wandering spinners dont function irl.

oh, THEY DO (I don't mean this in a flaming manner, I mean it in a stunning manner) They just use low-traction wheels and don't spin as fast because the spinner motors are geared down.
I dont think you understand robotics IRL (i dont mean game)
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 07, 2019, 02:00:31 PM
IRL Wandering Spinner.
Kiddo wandering spinners dont function irl.

oh, THEY DO (I don't mean this in a flaming manner, I mean it in a stunning manner) They just use low-traction wheels and don't spin as fast because the spinner motors are geared down.
I dont think you understand robotics IRL (i dont mean game)

IRL-In Real Life. Battlebots for example.
Trust me- they work. I'll show you with a Lego version if I have to...
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Team Code Red Robotics on January 07, 2019, 02:04:08 PM
IRL Wandering Spinner.
Kiddo wandering spinners dont function irl.

oh, THEY DO (I don't mean this in a flaming manner, I mean it in a stunning manner) They just use low-traction wheels and don't spin as fast because the spinner motors are geared down.
I dont think you understand robotics IRL (i dont mean game)

IRL-In Real Life. Battlebots for example.
Trust me- they work. I'll show you with a Lego version if I have to...
You would need to have controlled movement to be in any IRL tourney, and I don't think they work because then you will just get pinned
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 07, 2019, 02:19:42 PM
Well, this tournament's a twist on that- it's he fact that it involves Wandering Spinners- robots that actually have little control. (they can be turned on or off)

This makes them easier to AI too.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Badnik96 on January 07, 2019, 03:29:47 PM
yeah try to enter a "wandering spinner" in a real life tournament buddy. if it doesn't get thrown out for not being able to drive properly (thus failing safety) it'll kill itself from the repeated impacts on the walls.

also this tournament literally comes down to who can put the most weapons on their bot which completely contradicts irl and will give you less than satisfactory entries
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: 090901 on January 07, 2019, 03:43:55 PM
man I want some of whatever redalert is smoking
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 07, 2019, 03:46:18 PM
Oh, man. Votes are really piling up in the “no” section. Do they really think this is a waste of time...
...or is this an “I’m a n00b” thing?
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: 090901 on January 07, 2019, 03:48:59 PM
just make it ironforge standard and actually record videos instead of screenshots bro
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 07, 2019, 04:08:38 PM
just make it ironforge standard and actually record videos instead of screenshots bro

IF I can find a working video software...
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Reier on January 07, 2019, 04:09:47 PM
https://obsproject.com/
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: kix on January 07, 2019, 04:55:10 PM
>multiple screenshots
Ok this is epic
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 08, 2019, 08:43:45 AM
Thank you, Reier

Okay, I see lots of Yes remarks flying around, but the poll has quite a few No remarks. I'm confused.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: kix on January 08, 2019, 09:58:41 AM
You have more no votes than yes by far margin... Its just tthat this tournament is uninteresting and that that Screenshot part is what made most people to vote no. Best way to improve is to try andd host challenges to see if people can trust you and your recording/hosting/editing skills
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 08, 2019, 10:25:56 AM
You have more no votes than yes by far margin... Its just tthat this tournament is uninteresting and that that Screenshot part is what made most people to vote no. Best way to improve is to try andd host challenges to see if people can trust you and your recording/hosting/editing skills

Sounds good. I just can't seem to find good splash editing software these days. All I can say is- I'll do my best.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: kix on January 08, 2019, 01:05:27 PM
You have more no votes than yes by far margin... Its just tthat this tournament is uninteresting and that that Screenshot part is what made most people to vote no. Best way to improve is to try andd host challenges to see if people can trust you and your recording/hosting/editing skills

Sounds good. I just can't seem to find good splash editing software these days. All I can say is- I'll do my best.
Video editing
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/
Splash editing
https://www.getpaint.net
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 08, 2019, 01:35:07 PM
You have more no votes than yes by far margin... Its just tthat this tournament is uninteresting and that that Screenshot part is what made most people to vote no. Best way to improve is to try andd host challenges to see if people can trust you and your recording/hosting/editing skills

Sounds good. I just can't seem to find good splash editing software these days. All I can say is- I'll do my best.
Video editing
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/
Splash editing
https://www.getpaint.net

Thanks, Kix
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 09, 2019, 09:02:29 AM
Uh oh... I keep getting this stupid error 404 code. Is there another video-taking app I can use?
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: kix on January 09, 2019, 09:46:28 AM
OBS might not always be the best choice, it can struggle to record on low end systems... I would recommend bandicam, but it has watermark on top
https://www.bandicam.com/downloads/
you could prolly edit out the watermark
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Bildschirm on January 09, 2019, 10:21:54 AM
You can make personal tournaments too!
Its like a normal tournament but you enter all places with just your bots :o
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 09, 2019, 12:34:38 PM
You can make personal tournaments too!
Its like a normal tournament but you enter all places with just your bots :o

I will do that with my Ai packs. Right now, I want to see GTM's bot builders smoke me in developing insane wandering spinners.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Reier on January 09, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
the reason why there is no interest in this tournament is no one wants to build spinners with no control. no one else really thinks they are fun to build and they are not effective designs.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 09, 2019, 01:36:29 PM
the reason why there is no interest in this tournament is no one wants to build spinners with no control. no one else really thinks they are fun to build and they are not effective designs.

Not effective? in control, yes. In damage? no. You can develop a 42 iron Wandering Spinner in Unrealistic.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Hoppin on January 09, 2019, 02:06:58 PM
the reason why there is no interest in this tournament is no one wants to build spinners with no control. no one else really thinks they are fun to build and they are not effective designs.

Not effective? in control, yes. In damage? no. You can develop a 42 iron Wandering Spinner in Unrealistic.

Yea, but who wants to do that realistically
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: FightingBotInformal on January 09, 2019, 07:57:24 PM
the reason why there is no interest in this tournament is no one wants to build spinners with no control. no one else really thinks they are fun to build and they are not effective designs.

Not effective? in control, yes. In damage? no.
Coincidence? I do not think so.
Mystery? Maybe.
Hotel? Trivago.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: superbomb122 on January 09, 2019, 08:14:54 PM
This is a tournament of two robots bouncing off walls for 3 minutes, told in screenshots.
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: BotOfTheMonth on January 09, 2019, 09:15:51 PM
im going to get this off my chest now because im on some blackpill sh** tonight

if you havent built a wandering spinner you have no idea what """WS building""" is. none of you know sh** about how wandering spinners operate and im tired of dealing with subjective bullsh** by people who dont know how things work. i feel like a lot of the opinions i have on WS are unpopular because they go against what you people think WS should be or whatever and i resent that. build what you ****ing want to and dont worry about what other people think is """broken""" because despite everyones best efforts to nerf broken op parts the same flipper with a good wedge has won every high profile IF tournament in the last year. **** anyone that says otherwise
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Reier on January 09, 2019, 10:00:18 PM
because despite everyones best efforts to nerf broken op parts the same flipper with a good wedge has won every high profile IF tournament in the last year. **** anyone that says otherwise

except the popup and the flipper lost to the clamp in pvp so
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 10, 2019, 06:12:46 AM
Okay! With all the help I’m getting, this will work out:)))
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: 090901 on January 10, 2019, 11:06:00 AM
because despite everyones best efforts to nerf broken op parts the same flipper with a good wedge has won every high profile IF tournament in the last year. **** anyone that says otherwise

except the popup and the flipper lost to the clamp in pvp so
tbf it was an enclosed arena so you kinda expect the flipper to lose
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Badnik96 on January 10, 2019, 04:08:12 PM
im going to get this off my chest now because im on some blackpill sh** tonight

if you havent built a wandering spinner you have no idea what """WS building""" is. none of you know sh** about how wandering spinners operate and im tired of dealing with subjective bullsh** by people who dont know how things work. i feel like a lot of the opinions i have on WS are unpopular because they go against what you people think WS should be or whatever and i resent that. build what you ****ing want to and dont worry about what other people think is """broken""" because despite everyones best efforts to nerf broken op parts the same flipper with a good wedge has won every high profile IF tournament in the last year. **** anyone that says otherwise

thank you kanye very cool
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 17, 2019, 12:38:01 PM
Okay. I see a lot of NOs, but I'm getting plenty of WS from members. This tournament is a-go.

I will be entering with two of my WS...

I just found a bandicam app for taking videos of the fights :))
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: FightingBotInformal on January 17, 2019, 02:30:13 PM
Okay. I see a lot of NOs, but I'm getting plenty of WS from members. This tournament is a-go.
i think that isn’t how the system works
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Hoppin on January 17, 2019, 02:34:38 PM
Okay. I see a lot of NOs, but I'm getting plenty of WS from members. This tournament is a-go.
i think that isn’t how the system works

You'll need 8 yes votes (half of the entrant spaces)
Title: Re: No Mind Devastation
Post by: Redalert on January 17, 2019, 04:23:16 PM
So...not happening right now, I guess...