Author Topic: My Little Pwnies (Read 34220 times)

G.K. · « **Reply #80 on:** October 31, 2011, 12:43:17 PM »

I honestly don't have a problem with R0B0 using it, simply because there's no difference at all except the skin.

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #81 on:** October 31, 2011, 12:43:54 PM »

But you have to stick to the rules...

Naryar · « **Reply #82 on:** October 31, 2011, 12:47:19 PM »

you just be trollin SM

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #83 on:** October 31, 2011, 12:50:26 PM »

No, you all go on about how we have to follow the rules. And then someone goes "it's not REALLY that bad" and suddenly it's alright.

That Robot is a Spy! · « **Reply #84 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:04:33 PM »

Sorry, it's rare I build over MW now, so I probably wont be entering, but I wish this tourney the best of luck :)

G.K. · « **Reply #85 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:03:24 PM »

As trivial as it is, SM does have a point.

Just BFE the regular plows on. If you can't send it to me, I can.

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #86 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:17:45 PM »

No BFE :P[/jk]

G.K. · « **Reply #87 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:20:45 PM »

Why did I anticipate this post? :P

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #88 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:27:06 PM »

Quote from: G.K. on October 31, 2011, 02:03:24 PM

As trivial as it is, SM does have a point.

Just BFE the regular plows on. If you can't send it to me, I can.

I would agree with SM if SYD plows weren't ABSOLUTELY FUNCTIONALLY IDENTICAL to regular plows. We're not talking about replacing hammer heads with boxing gloves, or spike strips with samurai swords, we're talking about the exact same component with a different skin. So no, he doesn't have any point. At all.

And the SYD plows fit with the motif of the bot much better :3

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #89 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:28:56 PM »

Question: Is that component allowed within the rules of the tournament?
Answer: No

G.K. · « **Reply #90 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:00:12 PM »

R0B0, I agree with you, but SM is right.

kill343gs · « **Reply #91 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:21:04 PM »

I agree with you too, R0B0, but SM is technically right...

I don't usually throw my weight in around here, but in this case I must stand up for the rules that are set in place.

Naryar · « **Reply #92 on:** October 31, 2011, 03:23:38 PM »

I agree with R0B0 and I stand by his point. SM is just mad or being annoying or something.

Law must bow (BBOOOWWWW !!!1) to logic, after all.

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #93 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:10:43 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on October 31, 2011, 03:23:38 PM

SM is just mad or being annoying or something.

He's just gaming the system. No big deal.

Oh, and GK, you hold the power here. If you agree with me, it is well within your right to modify the rules so that they more accurately reflect the spirit of the law, not this logicless, irrational "we will obey ONLY the letter of the law" notion. By the reaction of this thread, we seem to have reached a majority consensus that the view I share with many of you is perfectly acceptable anyways. I don't see any reason as to why SYD plows should continue to be banned, as their use is still well within what the rules intend.

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #94 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:14:39 PM »

Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on October 31, 2011, 04:10:43 PM

[By the reaction of this thread, we seem to have reached a majority consensus that the view I share with many of you is perfectly acceptable anyways.

Majority? Where?

kill343gs · « **Reply #95 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:21:08 PM »

of all the arguments ive seen, this might be the lamest

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #96 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:22:51 PM »

I just want clear rules that people follow.
If you want to introduce a "anything goes so long as you want to argue about it" rule, I'm fine with it.

In other news, I might be getting somewhere with a bot.

NFX · « **Reply #97 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:24:31 PM »

I actually agree with S_M here. AI Components, exclusing the SnapperII and Emergency wedge, have been expressly prohibited in the rules, which GK has locked into place, so the SYD Plow is therefore an illegal component. If we're going to follow the rules, then we're going to follow the rules. Not sidestep around them for the sake of convenience. That's just how I see it.

cephalopod · « **Reply #98 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:28:35 PM »

>Reskin original plow using SYD plow skin
>Make gmf
>???
>Profit!!!

Surely that's fine? It's stupidly overcomplicated but brings exactly the same result.

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #99 on:** October 31, 2011, 04:39:05 PM »

Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on October 31, 2011, 04:14:39 PM

Quote from: R0B0SH4RK on October 31, 2011, 04:10:43 PM
[By the reaction of this thread, we seem to have reached a majority consensus that the view I share with many of you is perfectly acceptable anyways.
Majority? Where?

Well, apart from you and I, four others have adressed this argument. Let's take a look at their responses:

Quote from: Meganerdbomb on October 31, 2011, 05:30:03 AM

Just send it I guess. I doubt anyone will care.

Quote from: Naryar on October 31, 2011, 03:23:38 PM

I agree with R0B0 and I stand by his point.

Quote from: kill343gs on October 31, 2011, 03:21:04 PM

I agree with you too, R0B0

Quote from: G.K. on October 31, 2011, 03:00:12 PM

R0B0, I agree with you

By my count, that's not just a majority, that's everybody but you.

You say that you just want people to follow the rules. That's fine. I want people to follow the rules too. However, I'm pointing out that the rules are flawed and I'm suggesting that they're ammended to fix this flaw. Barring any ammendments, especially in the case of accidental oversights like this, is just irrational. If we never ammended anything, laws now would be the same as they were in Dark Age Europe.

I'm not asking MNB to allow samurai swords of bear claws or ninja stars, I'm only asking him to allow a different colour of snowplow. It's well within the spirit and intention of the rules, so there is no good reason to disallow it.