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Title: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on January 02, 2017, 12:03:34 AM
This tournament is not under copyright by me.  Feel free to rip-off this in every way shape and form.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15468Light vs Dark.png)



Please refrain from telling others your team.
Though I cannot stop you from PMing each other, I highly recommend you don't.




So... Where'd I mess up?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Philippa on January 03, 2017, 07:58:38 AM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Avalanche on January 03, 2017, 08:08:07 AM
I would change the idea slightly: instead of making the bots chosen randomly, you should have the team vote/ have a captain pick the robot to face the opponent team.

This would add a layer of strategy to the situation.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Jammy Dodger on January 03, 2017, 10:36:56 AM
This will be fun (hopeful :P) Yeah I'm up for this
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: jdg37 on January 03, 2017, 10:38:11 AM
Could also set teams draft style, with 2 team captains, + let captains choose matchups like Avalanche suggested.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Gulden on January 03, 2017, 12:34:51 PM
I question these:
A: How do we choose the Captains?
B: Which of the two captains gets their way when they have contradicting matchups?
C: Would the new goal to take down the captain?  Taking down their defenses?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: jdg37 on January 03, 2017, 12:42:40 PM
I question these:
A: How do we choose the Captains?
B: Which of the two captains gets their way when they have contradicting matchups?
C: Would the new goal to take down the captain?  Taking down their defenses?

A: could be volunteers, randomly selected, etc. doesn't matter that much.
B: I would do a coin flip, where winner could either have first draft pick or sets first matchup.
C: not really. Goal should still be to get most wins as a team. 

Finer points to decide would be following the first match, is it the winning team that keeps the power to select the next match, or the losing team.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Gulden on January 03, 2017, 12:48:03 PM
I question these:
A: How do we choose the Captains?
B: Which of the two captains gets their way when they have contradicting matchups?
C: Would the new goal to take down the captain?  Taking down their defenses?

A: could be volunteers, randomly selected, etc. doesn't matter that much.
B: I would do a coin flip, where winner could either have first draft pick or sets first matchup.
C: not really. Goal should still be to get most wins as a team. 

Finer points to decide would be following the first match, is it the winning team that keeps the power to select the next match, or the losing team.
A:
Quote
doesn't matter that much
You serious?  This could be the biggest decision in the entire tourney.
B: This still seems way too easy to take out the good bots in the first round.  Which gives the opposite team a HUGE disadvantage.
C: It was just a random idea.

Sorry, but I'm against the captain idea.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Thrackerzod on January 03, 2017, 12:53:09 PM
It's an interesting gimmick, but I think something like this really needs to not be IRL.  With the whole tournament being geared towards taking out the other team, people are just gonna build tryhardbots (that's what I would do, anyway).
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Probably Rob on January 03, 2017, 12:55:27 PM
Having it be competitive was probably the idea
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Jammy Dodger on January 04, 2017, 06:43:45 AM
as everyone else or most are saying i think this should be DSL S as IRL (which i like) wont really be suited to this type of tourney :|
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Badger on January 04, 2017, 07:16:35 AM
nah I think IRL is fine for this, just reject the tryhard bots.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Avalanche on January 04, 2017, 07:18:39 AM
nah I think IRL is fine for this, just reject the tryhard bots.

+1

IRL is only an issue when you let tryhard bots through: filter out the blatant BS and you will be fine.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Gulden on January 06, 2017, 05:08:43 PM
Trying to move this to sign-ups.
So if there's any last minute changes you guys want.  Make it quick.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Going to sign-ups)
Post by: 09090901 on January 09, 2017, 12:48:11 PM
you might want to contact one of the actual mods to get your tournament into singups, yugi has been pretty inactive lately
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Going to sign-ups)
Post by: Enigm@ on January 09, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
>light vs dark

(also i might come out of retirement and make something for this)

foul language removed
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Going to sign-ups)
Post by: Gulden on January 09, 2017, 01:16:36 PM
>light vs dark
might as well call it HONKIES vs NIGGERS you racist
I just took the name off of a spectacular game mode off a spectacular game.
No racism intended.

you might want to contact one of the actual mods to get your tournament into singups, yugi has been pretty inactive lately

Didn't know one could do that.  Will try.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Meganerdbomb on January 09, 2017, 01:18:54 PM
nah I think IRL is fine for this, just reject the tryhard bots.

+1

IRL is only an issue when you let tryhard bots through: filter out the blatant BS and you will be fine.
Wouldn't it make sense to have a competitive tournament in a competitive metagame rather than one that is absolutely not suited for competitive battles? Also, how will you keep the teams from being horribly mismatched, for example, everyone is an edgelord and chooses dark?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Discussion)
Post by: Gulden on January 09, 2017, 01:25:26 PM
Also, how will you keep the teams from being horribly mismatched, for example, everyone is an edgelord and chooses dark?

Bye bots and maximum entries.
Once a team gets fully filled everyone else will be forced to join the other team.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Going to sign-ups)
Post by: Avalanche on January 09, 2017, 01:27:25 PM
I'd still go with selecting which bots to use by having team votes on which of their bots is going to be used in the next round. it seems like it would add a layer of strategy to the tournament, which truly make the most use of the team gimmick. It means bots can be used to instantly counter another bot if they think the opponent will use it. A little bit of chance but mostly strategy.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Going to sign-ups)
Post by: Gulden on January 09, 2017, 01:34:02 PM
I'd still go with selecting which bots to use by having team votes on which of their bots is going to be used in the next round. it seems like it would add a layer of strategy to the tournament, which truly make the most use of the team gimmick. It means bots can be used to instantly counter another bot if they think the opponent will use it. A little bit of chance but mostly strategy.
Maybe its an idea for another tournament, but for now, I don't know how to make this work without one team being on top early and the other team basically being doomed.

Sure this is all possible in the current tournament, but having all the match-ups be by chance lowers the possibility of it being 7 vs 1 after the first round.
Having it be 8 and 0 after the first round is literally my worst nightmare for this tournament.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Going to sign-ups)
Post by: jdg37 on January 09, 2017, 02:07:04 PM
I'd still go with selecting which bots to use by having team votes on which of their bots is going to be used in the next round. it seems like it would add a layer of strategy to the tournament, which truly make the most use of the team gimmick. It means bots can be used to instantly counter another bot if they think the opponent will use it. A little bit of chance but mostly strategy.
Maybe its an idea for another tournament, but for now, I don't know how to make this work without one team being on top early and the other team basically being doomed.

Sure this is all possible in the current tournament, but having all the match-ups be by chance lowers the possibility of it being 7 vs 1 after the first round.
Having it be 8 and 0 after the first round is literally my worst nightmare for this tournament.

Rather than voting for next matchup, what if each team just selected their next bot to compete, not announce matchups. Early on this wouldn't seem to make a difference, but as the available pool of opponents dwindles it becomes more of a team strategy of which bot to put forward.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Going to sign-ups)
Post by: Avalanche on January 09, 2017, 02:18:02 PM
I'd still go with selecting which bots to use by having team votes on which of their bots is going to be used in the next round. it seems like it would add a layer of strategy to the tournament, which truly make the most use of the team gimmick. It means bots can be used to instantly counter another bot if they think the opponent will use it. A little bit of chance but mostly strategy.
Maybe its an idea for another tournament, but for now, I don't know how to make this work without one team being on top early and the other team basically being doomed.

Sure this is all possible in the current tournament, but having all the match-ups be by chance lowers the possibility of it being 7 vs 1 after the first round.
Having it be 8 and 0 after the first round is literally my worst nightmare for this tournament.

Rather than voting for next matchup, what if each team just selected their next bot to compete, not announce matchups. Early on this wouldn't seem to make a difference, but as the available pool of opponents dwindles it becomes more of a team strategy of which bot to put forward.

That is precisely what i was trying to say, but couldn't articulate. Thank you.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark (Going to sign-ups)
Post by: Gulden on January 09, 2017, 03:07:50 PM
I'd still go with selecting which bots to use by having team votes on which of their bots is going to be used in the next round. it seems like it would add a layer of strategy to the tournament, which truly make the most use of the team gimmick. It means bots can be used to instantly counter another bot if they think the opponent will use it. A little bit of chance but mostly strategy.
Maybe its an idea for another tournament, but for now, I don't know how to make this work without one team being on top early and the other team basically being doomed.

Sure this is all possible in the current tournament, but having all the match-ups be by chance lowers the possibility of it being 7 vs 1 after the first round.
Having it be 8 and 0 after the first round is literally my worst nightmare for this tournament.

Rather than voting for next matchup, what if each team just selected their next bot to compete, not announce matchups. Early on this wouldn't seem to make a difference, but as the available pool of opponents dwindles it becomes more of a team strategy of which bot to put forward.

That is precisely what i was trying to say, but couldn't articulate. Thank you.

1 fight at a time eh?
Well now the coin flip seems possible.
That's definitely something to think about... I'll poll it.

Craaig/Yugitom might wanna hang back on moving this to sign-ups now...
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Discussion
Post by: cephalopod on January 09, 2017, 03:14:03 PM
>do all the log editing for the last month and update to add this
>move the thread

'don't move it now'

r u kidding :(
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Discussion
Post by: Gulden on January 09, 2017, 10:32:11 PM
Sorry bout that Craaig.   Anyways the voting is in sway of the match decisions.

Rule change is under the bracket section.

We also have to re-do the vote section, so get yours in.
(Even though we had 15 to 1 at one point, this change is probably too large...)


Edit:  Due to the fact I don't like 1 fights per video style, Team captains now have to choose 4 different robots instead of just 1.  This number will decrease to half of the losing team each round.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: yugitom on January 15, 2017, 01:24:14 AM
This tournament is not under copyright by me.  Feel free to rip-off this in every way shape and form.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/15468Light vs Dark.png)



Please refrain from telling others your team.
Though I cannot stop you from PMing each other, I highly recommend you don't.




So... Where'd I mess up?
This is now a signups topic and the rules quoted may not change. You've got 3 months, have fun :)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on January 15, 2017, 01:26:50 AM
And Craaig's Thunder gets stolen back.
(Trust me bud, I didn't ask him; he made an offer, and I accepted)


Anyways, good luck competitors.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on January 15, 2017, 11:28:48 AM
Badger's entry is accepted.

Edit: Havok's entry is rejected for not specifying which team he's on.

Edit 2: Accepted now.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Asbestosstar on January 15, 2017, 09:54:20 PM
Weight limit?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on January 15, 2017, 09:55:56 PM
HW
You seriously can't read the second line in the rules?
Or do you just not know Jargon?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Asbestosstar on January 15, 2017, 10:00:27 PM
ok dont remember.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on January 16, 2017, 05:35:18 PM
Dead Genocide's bot denied (Twice) under the Weak/Impractical rule.

On the other end, jdg37's and Baconus_Yum's bots are accepted.

Edit #63: Jamied's bot denied.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on January 24, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Just an update that I think I need to address.
Ring Spinners aren't allowed.  I see them as un-IRL and probably Tryhard anyway.
Ring spinners have always just bothered me in how they work.  If you can make it truely spin without going through the tires, I'll allow it.
Thanks and DP FTW.

#FeltlikeIwasgoingobscuresobumpedlikeabitch
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on January 26, 2017, 06:22:29 PM
Jamied's latest entry accepted.

DemonOfOtherTommarow's entry accepted as well.

Playzooki Denied.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on January 29, 2017, 03:55:02 PM
Well, now that the grace period is over, I think I should set a deadline.
The end of February should do.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Mouldy on February 05, 2017, 11:21:52 AM
Me and Moully are entering. Shall be sending our bots soon.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 05, 2017, 01:32:37 PM
TGM's bot just got rejected.

Me and Moully are entering. Shall be sending our bots soon.
I look forward to seeing them.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on February 05, 2017, 02:19:36 PM
I haven't seen playzooki's and TGM's entries, but I'm not entirely sure what grounds you can really fault them on when you consider this work of modern art:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95095Screenshot%20(279).png)

as "IRL" enough to use as a byebot.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 05, 2017, 05:21:22 PM
I haven't seen playzooki's and TGM's entries, but I'm not entirely sure what grounds you can really fault them on when you consider this work of modern art:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95095Screenshot%20(279).png)

as "IRL" enough to use as a byebot.

That bot was an experiment for Hypno arms as supports; it seemed IRL enough for me. 
As for TGM, he stacked burst motors.
Playzooki just broke the no Joke Bot rule.

In other news Kurt has been accepted.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on February 05, 2017, 06:48:12 PM
That bot was an experiment for Hypno arms as supports; it seemed IRL enough for me. 
(http://i.imgur.com/VI2GJ1K.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/TefkMJG.png)

I could pick apart WR or LC, but this is the one that stood out to me the most.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Badger on February 05, 2017, 07:07:45 PM
Jesus christ AS that nigga had a family...
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: kix on February 05, 2017, 11:17:51 PM
Gulden! A question.. if i would put one burst motor a wee bit in front of the other.. would that still be considering stacking? (Yes they will intersect, but not like the one i sent)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 06, 2017, 12:43:32 AM
Gulden! A question.. if i would put one burst motor a wee bit in front of the other.. would that still be considering stacking? (Yes they will intersect, but not like the one i sent)
Depends on how much a wee bit is.
If the E-teks and gearing systems on the side of the burst don't intersect , you should be fine.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: kix on February 06, 2017, 12:47:55 AM
I meant in forward..a bit.. it wont intersect the gearings
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 09, 2017, 12:52:41 PM
TGM Accepted.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 11, 2017, 03:13:30 PM
Enigma accepted against my better judgement..
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 17, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
F1Krazy is Accepted.  We have just over 10 days left fellas and 5 entries left!
(Playzooki and DeadGenocide don't count...)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 18, 2017, 04:01:05 PM
NeonCalypso's entry denied. Though I have a feeling he just sent me the wrong bot

Jamied666's update accepted.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: NeonCalypso on February 18, 2017, 05:55:28 PM
NeonCalypso's entry denied. Though I have a feeling he just sent me the wrong bot

Jamied666's update accepted.
Uh. What did I send you?
Can I enter with a new bot?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: jdg37 on February 18, 2017, 08:04:39 PM
Oh yeah, room to update. Should probably get on that soon....
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 19, 2017, 12:59:21 PM
Neon's entry accepted.

4 Spots left guys!
And believe it or not, neither team has filled up.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 19, 2017, 03:55:25 PM
ty4er is in.

Neon's bot is updated. (Twice now)

3 spots left!
Neither of the teams are somehow not full.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on February 21, 2017, 02:05:45 PM
I'll have an entry for you soon.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 21, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
S.H.I.E.L.D Accepted.

2 spots left, 1 for each team.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on February 21, 2017, 02:35:27 PM
Entry Sent.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 21, 2017, 02:56:37 PM
Avalanche accepted.

The final robot will now be forced to join team Light.

Now that one of the teams are filled,the teams are now Revealed!

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: jdg37 on February 21, 2017, 03:37:53 PM
Go team Dark
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 21, 2017, 03:46:11 PM
Baconus_Yum: Executioner:2
Avalanche: Fighter Mk II.:8

Time to put the past behind us and work together.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Enigm@ on February 21, 2017, 04:10:22 PM
Baconus_Yum: Executioner:2
Avalanche: Fighter Mk II.:8

Time to put the past behind us and work together.
:really_makes_you_think:
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on February 21, 2017, 04:14:17 PM
Baconus_Yum: Executioner:2
Avalanche: Fighter Mk II.:8

Time to put the past behind us and work together.
Agreed, as long as your robot isn't absolute fecal matter. Though I honestly do hope you've inproved.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: F1Krazy on February 21, 2017, 04:16:45 PM
Go Team Edgelords!  :gunz:
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 21, 2017, 04:19:31 PM
Baconus_Yum: Executioner:2
Avalanche: Fighter Mk II.:8

Time to put the past behind us and work together.
Agreed, as long as your robot isn't absolute fecal matter. Though I honestly do hope you've inproved.
It does have a vibe to some older days, but it uses better weaponry. ;)

(and is an extender bot)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: doot on February 21, 2017, 04:23:15 PM
dude you spelled Dragoon wrong...

...and come to think of it I think you spelled my username wrong too XP
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 21, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
dude you spelled Dragoon wrong...

...and come to think of it I think you spelled my username wrong too XP

Can't go one tournament without a mistake.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Avalanche on February 21, 2017, 04:32:04 PM
dude you spelled Dragoon wrong...

...and come to think of it I think you spelled my username wrong too XP

Can't go one tournament without a mistake.
shhhh everything is fine stop being self-depreciative shhhh

also Avalanche for Team Dark Captain: the only person who can truly control edge is the one who gets banned for edge (and also i think i have a plan)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 21, 2017, 05:25:40 PM
090901 Denied.  Sorry all those on discord that saw the wonderful But impractical work of art.


(Now I feel guilt...)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on February 21, 2017, 05:34:01 PM
litteraly hitler desicion
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: doot on February 21, 2017, 05:36:58 PM
wtf i hate Guldenflame now!
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on February 21, 2017, 05:44:23 PM
i guess it's time for me to huff some zyklon b and end it all
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - Signups
Post by: Gulden on February 21, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
090901's entry is accepted.

Meaning sign-ups are over.

You guys can update your bots until the splashes are made.
Good luck all.

We'll vote captains in the SBVA thread which will be made when I'm done with splashes.  (Either tonight or tomorrow.)