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Title: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 21, 2017, 10:10:58 PM
Remember that you can rip off this tournament.  (For anyone who sees this from the future and never saw the sign-ups page)

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Good luck!
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 21, 2017, 10:20:35 PM
i vote 090901 as fuhrer
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Post by: kix on February 22, 2017, 12:59:22 AM
Fuhrer for mein Kapiten!
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Post by: F1Krazy on February 22, 2017, 01:15:38 AM
I vote Doot for Team Dark captain, due to his excellent track record in tourneys.
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Post by: Jammy Dodger on February 22, 2017, 02:06:09 AM
I vote for Doot :3
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Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 22, 2017, 04:14:42 AM
I vote for Doot :3
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Dark-Al on February 22, 2017, 05:12:02 AM
Alright then, I don't know what 090901 was thinking when he came up and built Mecha Hitler 2.1. Light Team Seriously? That bot should of been on the Dark team for the very reasons you know why.
 Also Strengths: Guilt? GuldenFlame what were you thinking? I can guess you wanted to joke about Hitler being good all of a sudden, but just why?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 22, 2017, 05:29:14 AM
I'll vote myself for Team Dark.
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Post by: doot on February 22, 2017, 06:02:27 AM
I nominate me because well tbh people are doing it and ava nominated himself so whydafugnot?
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Post by: Avalanche on February 22, 2017, 06:41:07 AM
pls people i was the one who came up with the captain idea i have a plan trust me
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Post by: NeonCalypso on February 22, 2017, 07:38:34 AM
I was registered for this  ;) voting for Badger though, his bot looks promising.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 22, 2017, 08:52:13 AM
Hmmm I need speeches to earn my allegiance. Avalanche has stated his right to captainhoodship, what say the Demon of the tomorrows?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 22, 2017, 10:00:20 AM
Robot Evaluations and Why I Should Be Captain: I'm a man with a plan, and preparation is Step 1.

(Note: this post took lots of time to make due to shoddy internet. the formatting won't be the same throughout, and opinions change as you go down the list. This is a rambling evaluation, but at least i've actually evaluated the robots. If you're seeing this before this edit goes through, note that I think Hammerhead is better than what i gave it credit for originally.

Hammerhead (Team Dark/Ally): Sadly, probably the weakest of the team due to it's limited offense, but hopefully the frenzy hammer can pull off an upset or two.  Looks good. The armor and speed are it's best factors.

Challenge (Team Light/Enemy): It's fast, it's a gut ripper, but the supports for the egg beater make it easy to hit with a HS, and the wedges are limited so I reckon Dragoon, maybe Hammer head could be used to take this one out. Maybe Monster in the Parsol can take it out, as the overkillwedge will go under the eggbeater, and then the moros blade can hit the side of the egg beater supports and eventually can get to the eggbeater itself.

Crocodile smile: Is interesting, and has beaten Flipster before (RNP Violence), so if TGM is on Team light we've got a purpose built Flipster defeater, so we should hold onto Crocodile till we have a better chance of fighting flipster, or possibly Badger's flipper. Crocodile's an odd one though: he's really only good for picking up bots, pushing em around, slamming them about. I'm not sure that will work against all of our opponents. He's a niche bot, similar to B.B.S.

Executioner: Well bloody done Baconus, that's actually quite good.  :claping The tribar looks a bit odd but you've come a long way since Whacker and Hammatime. (use a Whyachi Tribar or do what i did for fighter next time perhaps) I still can't forgive you for what ever the hell you entered into our challenge match however, sorry. (joking.) This is probably our first choice robot for fighting Solaris, because I reckon Fighter would hit too high up to get the disc, and I don't think the Moros Blade of Jungle Party can beat the 2 Large Typhoon teeth.

Dragoon: MMMMMMMM. Looks good and with a gothic axe plus a sh**e load of wedges, this thing will do pretty well i think, but only if it fights a suitable opponent.

Solaris (Team Light/Enemy): Nasty looking HS, but as soon as the large teeth go i think it will start to lose it's fight. Jungle Party or Executioner to fight this, possibly Dragoon because of the sloped sides making it hard to land decisive blows, but not Fighter, as fighter's weaponry would probably hit the extender supports. Maybe Hammer head, because of the heavy plow on the front, but that's a last resort imo. If we could force Team Light's hand to get this bot out the way quickly, that'd be great, but IDK if we can. Plus those bloody flippers will be our biggest weakness imo.

Jungle Party(Team Dark/Ally): Why hello, Ray Billings. I haven't tested a moros blade, to be frank, but if Executioner doesn't fight Solaris, this should. It's also invertible, so the flippers may have a hard time.

Fighter Mk. II(Team Light/Ally/Own Entry): I feel this is proof i've come a long way from when i first started RA2, and especially a long way since Fighter and Brawler from Keep Your Enemies Close. Takes some time to spin up, but Gulden's AI'd it to back up after a hit, which is neato. It's got a weakness to being flipped, so the Captain (Which should be myself, drop out of the race Doot) cannot under any circumstances put me up against Badger's flipper or Flipster. (Especially Badger's Flipper)

Mecha Hitler (Team Light [for some reason]/Enemy/Literally Hitler): What. I reckon a flipper could take him out, but i don't think we have one. Crocodile Smile with a direct ram that lifts Hitler up and ootas him could work, but I feel he's too large to do that, and a error would end up pulling out all of the crocodile's teeth. Failing that, a tough as **** spinner might do the trick.

Monster in the parsol (Team Dark/Ally): can't tell from the half loaded image, but i'd say that's alright. A nippy spinner that might do some damage: probably useful as a safe bet, but that wedge being attached by a multiextender = dodgy wedge. A metal hinge would have been better. The wedge and wheels (which appear to be stacked) might take a good amount of hits, but this robot might not win. Not a bad robot by any means however.

Grindr(Team Light/Enemy): well f*** me that's a lot of saws. Feels very Black Hole (German Robot Wars champion, if you're wondering what i'm talking about)-esque. However, all those saws come at a cost of weight, and it appears that the extenders don't have armor panels. Also, i've got a feeling those extenders in much of the robot may be titanium, and possibly even aluminium due to weight. I think if you take a big, powerful spinner, you can turn Grindr back into it's constituent atoms. Or, if we get under him with BBS, we might get him beaten down. However, a front on attack will end up turning robots with weaponry that can't punt away Grindr into scrap metal. I'd send Jungle Party, Fighter, Executioner or

Paladin (Team Light/Enemy): Is that 3 bursts? Jesus christ. Hopefully they'll be the smaller bursts, such as the medium or smaller. If they are larger, he's definietly got less weight elsewhere, which reflects in his speed stat. Note I have't seen his armour stat, because of bad internet image loading. I think we may need to sacrifice a robot to this guy, maybe Hammerhead, or Monster in the Parsol. Sorry, you two. If he's slow, we might be able to spin up our HS's weapons before fighting him. And considering Jungle Party is invertible, if he's available when it comes to the point where fighting paladin is likely, he'll be our best shot. This is either somebody we lose to horribly, or we wait till it's likely we face him.

Axe Questions Later (Team Light/Enemy): It's dragoon, but built by a newb. I'll send Dragoon after him, or I'll send Big Black Saw if i want to get under him and cut him up.

Killshot (Team Light/Enemy): He's fast apparently, but a fast axe bot with no way to stop the opponent flying over the wedge is flawed in my opinion. Send a really stupidly fast robot at him, and he can't do sh**. Either that, or send a better axebot. Hence, we can send Hammerhead, or we can send Dragoon Evolution. Dragoon is better for spinners and flippers due to sloped sides, so send Hammerhead after this guy. Plus, hammerhead is fast as hell, so it'll disrupt his accuracy. Also, ive found that if Ironside Mk. IV, which uses a large pneumatic burst itself fires the burst and tips over onto it's back before it retracts finds it hard to self right. I think Killshot might suffer from this itself, so a fast robot that might force an error could win a battle. Perhaps Dragoon will be best for turning him over.

Big Black Saw (Team Dark/Ally): I think this is a niche robot: it looks cool, but it has to be precise with how it gets under it's opponents, has to attack from the front, and then needs to gut rip them without getting the saws hit at all. The supports around the saws may help with this but IDK. It looks cool tho.

The reason I want to be captain is that I have the ideas here, I just need the opportunity to put them into practice. Also, tournament records don't really matter when you are relying on other people's robots, so I think thats Doot's record advantage F1Krazy mentioned negated. I've explained my logic, I've got the plans, and I plan to adapt my plans to whatever the opposing captain does. I think that i'm the best for the Captain position, and remember you can still change your votes from Demon, people.

Also, while i'm doing a wall of text. the fact that the captain has to pick multiple robots to fight at the same time (including the next 4 in the first round, which is a right clusterf*** when it comes to strategy) means there's a nasty bit of luck involved in captaincy, Guldenflame, so I recommend for the next LvD tournament you fix that. Either that or I do a LvD ripoff that fixes that, but i'd rather you did a sequel to this.

TL:DR: I think our fights will be difficult, their flippers are gonna be an issue, no flippers on this team makes me sad, trust me, i have a plan, i'm thinking this through, what the f*** 090901, I will be best for Captain, change your vote if you trust me now.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 22, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Wall of text gets my vote. Avalanche for darkness command. Steer us into that iceberg, full speed ahead.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 22, 2017, 10:19:55 AM
Hmmm I need speeches to earn my allegiance. Avalanche has stated his right to captainhoodship, what say the Demon of the tomorrows?
i won a tournament and he didn't  :dumb)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Probably Rob on February 22, 2017, 10:27:00 AM
Hmm... so have I, can I be cap'n now too?  :really_makes_you_think:
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 22, 2017, 10:48:40 AM
Hmm... so have I, can I be cap'n now too?  :really_makes_you_think:
Please vote. Preferably for myself but any votes will do.
As long as they are not for doot.

Also, Robot Evaluation ADDENDUM! Jamied has informed me that cricodile Smile was kitted out with fancy AI: It fights like Donald Hutson vs Overhaul: never lets go, never stops. It doesn't even back up for another ram: it just flat out charges at you, and once it grabs you it slams you into a wall. It only stops when it or the opponent stars to be counted out. I reckon this robot is more useful now and no longer acts as a niche, but rather as a safe bet for slamming opponents around the arena. The jaws may still be fragile however, so it won't see action against spinners (hopefully). However due to the arena being the league of champions it will not be able to pull a CS vs Flipster and oota somebody. Shame really.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 22, 2017, 11:18:20 AM
I nominate me because well tbh people are doing it and ava nominated himself so whydafugnot?
dems has my vote
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 22, 2017, 11:25:49 AM
> 2 votes for 090901 as capt
Idk if you saw what he entered, but for some reason I have a hunch that hes not gonna take it seriously
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 22, 2017, 11:30:33 AM
> 2 votes for 090901 as capt
Idk if you saw what he entered, but for some reason I have a hunch that hes not gonna take it seriously
what if he's a serious leader, not a serious bot builder? :really_makes_you_think:
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 22, 2017, 11:52:38 AM
Vote Badger.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 22, 2017, 12:00:02 PM
These are the walls of text I like to see.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure I can vote too. Right?
Let's see, Badger is actually smart, one the 1-shot tourney, but his bot lags my game.  However, that's the only flaw.
090901 is a meme lord, probably can see potential in bots that I can't see, but he built Adolf hitler... sigh
Kurt is a cool dude with few drawbacks, but few overly amazing features... Also, how many thought this was a smudge.  Probs only Baconus.
 
I'll vote for Badger.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 22, 2017, 12:09:20 PM
Kurt is a cool dude with overly amazing features...
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 22, 2017, 12:17:44 PM
cmon guys i put lots of effort into making strategy vote for me what has demon done

you can still change, i will forgive you
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 22, 2017, 03:10:17 PM
You see, the problem is there is not that much "strategy" involved, and this mainly comes down to luck  :dumb)
On top of that you posted your strategy so the other team will basically know extactly when/if you are down to below 3 bots, unless your whole plan is to do the opposite of what you posted.

also i vote myself since screw you badger  :mrgreen:
(casually awaits guldens brother to magically appear and vote badger)

Alright then, I don't know what 090901 was thinking when he came up and built Mecha Hitler 2.1. Light Team Seriously? That bot should of been on the Dark team for the very reasons you know why.
 Also Strengths: Guilt? GuldenFlame what were you thinking? I can guess you wanted to joke about Hitler being good all of a sudden, but just why?
1. Team Dark was full, plus a Hitler bot on Team Light has dark humor points.
2. Guilt of rejecting the first version.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 22, 2017, 03:24:27 PM
Probs only Baconus. 
*insert John Cena meme here*
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 22, 2017, 03:43:15 PM
You see, the problem is there is not that much "strategy" involved, and this mainly comes down to luck  :dumb)
On top of that you posted your strategy so the other team will basically know extactly when/if you are down to below 3 bots, unless your whole plan is to do the opposite of what you posted.

also i vote myself since screw you badger  :mrgreen:
(casually awaits guldens brother to magically appear and vote badger)

Alright then, I don't know what 090901 was thinking when he came up and built Mecha Hitler 2.1. Light Team Seriously? That bot should of been on the Dark team for the very reasons you know why.
 Also Strengths: Guilt? GuldenFlame what were you thinking? I can guess you wanted to joke about Hitler being good all of a sudden, but just why?
1. Team Dark was full, plus a Hitler bot on Team Light has dark humor points.
2. Guilt of rejecting the first version.

Which is why I referred to adaptability: I'm not going to hand Team light my tactical playbook and then fight them with the same tactics, am I?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Probably Rob on February 22, 2017, 04:36:50 PM
Am I winning the vote yet?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Dark-Al on February 23, 2017, 03:46:37 AM
Alright then, I don't know what 090901 was thinking when he came up and built Mecha Hitler 2.1. Light Team Seriously? That bot should of been on the Dark team for the very reasons you know why.
 Also Strengths: Guilt? GuldenFlame what were you thinking? I can guess you wanted to joke about Hitler being good all of a sudden, but just why?
1. Team Dark was full, plus a Hitler bot on Team Light has dark humor points.
2. Guilt of rejecting the first version.
Fair enough if you wanted to make a joke out of Hitler. I wasn't aware that this was the second version of Mecha Hitler even when it had the clearly states Mecha Hitler 2.1. I though this was the first version for a joke of how the last Mecha Hitler failed during its conquest for world domination. But that's what you get if you make assumptions all the time.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 23, 2017, 05:09:08 AM
Eh, can Rob just captain both teams instead? He probably could do it.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 23, 2017, 05:33:32 AM
Eh, can Rob just captain both teams instead? He probably could do it.

its supposed to be captain vs captain innit?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Probably Rob on February 23, 2017, 08:16:40 AM
What're you talking about? I can take anybody down with one blink

Don't listen to 'im, he doesn't know how to fight

Oh yeah? Just like how your mother didn't know how to fight me last night?

O-... oh...
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 23, 2017, 08:18:39 AM
Alright then, I don't know what 090901 was thinking when he came up and built Mecha Hitler 2.1. Light Team Seriously? That bot should of been on the Dark team for the very reasons you know why.
 Also Strengths: Guilt? GuldenFlame what were you thinking? I can guess you wanted to joke about Hitler being good all of a sudden, but just why?
1. Team Dark was full, plus a Hitler bot on Team Light has dark humor points.
2. Guilt of rejecting the first version.
Fair enough if you wanted to make a joke out of Hitler. I wasn't aware that this was the second version of Mecha Hitler even when it had the clearly states Mecha Hitler 2.1. I though this was the first version for a joke of how the last Mecha Hitler failed during its conquest for world domination. But that's what you get if you make assumptions all the time.
you know what, i agree with al, chris' robbit is very triggering and i think he should be banned from this tournament, in fact i'm gonna make a change.org petition for it
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Dark-Al on February 23, 2017, 08:31:47 AM
Alright then, I don't know what 090901 was thinking when he came up and built Mecha Hitler 2.1. Light Team Seriously? That bot should of been on the Dark team for the very reasons you know why.
 Also Strengths: Guilt? GuldenFlame what were you thinking? I can guess you wanted to joke about Hitler being good all of a sudden, but just why?
1. Team Dark was full, plus a Hitler bot on Team Light has dark humor points.
2. Guilt of rejecting the first version.
Fair enough if you wanted to make a joke out of Hitler. I wasn't aware that this was the second version of Mecha Hitler even when it had the clearly states Mecha Hitler 2.1. I though this was the first version for a joke of how the last Mecha Hitler failed during its conquest for world domination. But that's what you get if you make assumptions all the time.
you know what, i agree with al, chris' robbit is very triggering and i think he should be banned from this tournament, in fact i'm gonna make a change.org petition for it
I know you are trying to troll me, but just let Chris (090901) have his laughs. I didn't say anything about triggering me in anyway of form, it was the case of looking in the splashes and you see something like Mecha Hitler 2.1 makes you think "What were they thinking!"
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 23, 2017, 08:57:03 AM
Alright then, I don't know what 090901 was thinking when he came up and built Mecha Hitler 2.1. Light Team Seriously? That bot should of been on the Dark team for the very reasons you know why.
 Also Strengths: Guilt? GuldenFlame what were you thinking? I can guess you wanted to joke about Hitler being good all of a sudden, but just why?
1. Team Dark was full, plus a Hitler bot on Team Light has dark humor points.
2. Guilt of rejecting the first version.
Fair enough if you wanted to make a joke out of Hitler. I wasn't aware that this was the second version of Mecha Hitler even when it had the clearly states Mecha Hitler 2.1. I though this was the first version for a joke of how the last Mecha Hitler failed during its conquest for world domination. But that's what you get if you make assumptions all the time.
you know what, i agree with al, chris' robbit is very triggering and i think he should be banned from this tournament, in fact i'm gonna make a change.org petition for it
I know you are trying to troll me, but just let Chris (090901) have his laughs. I didn't say anything about triggering me in anyway of form, it was the case of looking in the splashes and you see something like Mecha Hitler 2.1 makes you think "What were they thinking!"
i would think he's being cheeky and having a laugh, and i laughed as well, life's tough my man, sometimes you gotta have a sense of humor about stuff.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Thrackerzod on February 23, 2017, 09:53:31 AM
I vote NeonCalypso as weaboo captain and Jamied666 as edgy captain
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 23, 2017, 12:52:46 PM
Because the team Light Captains were tied in votes, they'll have to fight for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAUkNrOigdU


Captains, you'll now be giving me PMs declaring 4 robots.  (Remember the order of them does count).
Also if you don't give me the bots within 24 hours.  I will resort to my lord and savior RNJesus
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 23, 2017, 12:57:13 PM
Seems....historically accurate
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 23, 2017, 01:13:17 PM
lol badger's bot sux gg ez guys
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 23, 2017, 07:36:17 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 23, 2017, 10:25:03 PM
The captains responded quickly and I freakin love rushing things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP1qKnrW9Cs

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 23, 2017, 10:30:42 PM
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Post by: 090901 on February 23, 2017, 11:26:04 PM
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Post by: F1Krazy on February 24, 2017, 12:57:09 AM
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Post by: NeonCalypso on February 24, 2017, 02:02:33 AM
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Post by: Avalanche on February 24, 2017, 02:56:54 AM

I am enjoying this a lot.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: kix on February 24, 2017, 04:20:18 AM
also can TGM's bot even flip stuff?  :dumb)
It can.. i blame the arena..

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 24, 2017, 05:17:41 AM
also can TGM's bot even flip stuff?  :dumb)
It can.. i blame the arena..

Yeah, that arena isn't friendly to flippers or crocodiles
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 24, 2017, 09:13:48 AM
lol gg ez
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 24, 2017, 12:54:05 PM
For the record, Team Dark has already sent it's line up. We're waiting, Team Light. Still panic stricken from your 3 losses?

PS: I am just turning up the a**hole factor a little more for this tournament because A: team dark is inherently evil, and my teammates seem to not wish to go full kayfabe (which is ok), so i'll just lead the charge on that front, B: Doot has said to the BWW Discord (when we were group-watching BW) that i'm (unofficially) Co-captain, or as i'm putting it: Lieutenant, and C: It allows me a semi-legit reason for arrogance and s***talking, D: i might actually win a tournament for the first time in almost 8 years.

Basically, I'm pulling a Foxic.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 24, 2017, 01:03:45 PM
PS: I am just turning up the a**hole factor for this tournament because i think i'm funny but really i just make you cringe
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 24, 2017, 01:05:52 PM
For the record, Team Dark has already sent it's line up. We're waiting, Team Light. Still panic stricken from your 3 losses?

Team Light sent their's first just Fyi.
Currently editing the video.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 24, 2017, 01:06:16 PM
>implying you aren't an arse all the time lol

But yeah, Avalanche is a co-captain. I wanted to hide this fact, but now I have to reveal it after Ava mentioned that in here. ;P

Anyways, my thoughts on the fights:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 24, 2017, 01:20:06 PM
PS: I am just turning up the a**hole factor for this tournament because i think i'm funny but really i just make you cringe
So I get flamed for a simple statement that simply said that any a**hole sh**talking during this tournament is intentional and is more for presenting a villain on Team Dark (much like how Craig from Foxic and Shane from Team S-tek / Dantomkia were acting like arrogant d***heads but only in TV and are nice people outside) in a good natured intentional "kayfabe" way, instead of just out and out flaming for no reason.

So even when it's not serious and i'm trying to have a laugh it's worthy of getting sh**-talked.

OK then.

>implying you aren't an arse all the time lol

Oh come on, it's not all the time: 1/4 to 1/3 of the time at most. (edit: probably more like 1/2, but eh. still not all the time.

For the record, Team Dark has already sent it's line up. We're waiting, Team Light. Still panic stricken from your 3 losses?

Team Light sent their's first just Fyi.
Currently editing the video.

Touché.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 24, 2017, 02:15:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrYT2SHUQIU

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 24, 2017, 02:22:16 PM
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Post by: doot on February 24, 2017, 02:25:36 PM
Fight Report:
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Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 24, 2017, 02:42:30 PM
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Post by: Avalanche on February 24, 2017, 03:08:04 PM
AFTER ACTION REPORT:

Our next bots have been sent already. We're waiting on you now, Team Light. This war will be over soon, and we will be victorious.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 24, 2017, 03:28:33 PM
Our next bots have been sent already. We're waiting on you now, Team Light.
09 got there first again.  By a single minute.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/61379Screenshot (336).png)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 24, 2017, 03:29:32 PM
Well played, 090901. Well played.
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Post by: Philippa on February 24, 2017, 03:58:35 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 24, 2017, 04:17:23 PM
Man, I'm getting overexcited for these things.  Kinda doing a Two-A-Day Schedule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3NJ53OsMYA

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 24, 2017, 04:26:09 PM
I'm confused, shouldn't the last bots without fights have gone?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 24, 2017, 04:31:07 PM
I'm confused, shouldn't the last bots without fights have gone?

I don't decide who goes and when.
You'll have to ask Demon and/or 090901 why.
(Probably just Demon as 09 is an enemy to you.)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 24, 2017, 04:33:32 PM
Fight Reports:
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 24, 2017, 04:34:54 PM
gg ez again lmfao
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 24, 2017, 05:06:46 PM
After Action Report:

We're waiting on you now, Team Light. Again. (I'm going to keep saying this till it's true.)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 24, 2017, 05:12:16 PM
We're waiting on you now, Team Light. Again. (I'm going to keep saying this till it's true.)
You'll keep saying this for a while then...
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Dreamcast on February 24, 2017, 05:14:53 PM
We're waiting on you now, Team Light. Again. (I'm going to keep saying this till it's true.)
Good luck with that. 09-sama is online almost every moment of his existence.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 24, 2017, 05:39:23 PM
I think I've uploaded way too much today.  This tournament is leaving just as soon as it came.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcFDKjT_ers

Captains, you'll be giving me one robot like last time.

For now, I'll be done uploading for a while.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/26260me irl.gif)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 24, 2017, 05:50:33 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 24, 2017, 05:59:02 PM
k yall may wanna quell the sh**talking now
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 24, 2017, 08:16:39 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 24, 2017, 10:49:42 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 25, 2017, 01:43:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xARpVWKqlnA

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 25, 2017, 02:00:29 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 25, 2017, 02:07:48 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 25, 2017, 02:13:42 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: F1Krazy on February 25, 2017, 02:18:48 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Jammy Dodger on February 25, 2017, 02:28:58 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 02:35:57 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 25, 2017, 03:26:11 PM

Agreed. 3 bursts, and they are all at max arcs. The hinges are less of an issue imo, I mainly have issue with skirt sheets.

Says the guy with 3 overhead spinners on his team, and a bot with nothing but hinges on his team.

Before you go and try and slam our Team Captain for factors outside his control, how about you consider the fact that it was you who set up the luck-based system that led to 3 overhead spinners being on our team, and it was you who accepted CS, despite either knowing that it was over powered, or failing to test it properly to see if it was overpowered. Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about overhead spinners, mate. There IS something wrong with a 3 piston flipper however.


Blame Gulden for allowing it. Also, it's a fairly cool idea, and spikestrips aren't that durable, and you saw it get outwedged and flipped about the place by Paladin.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 04:07:01 PM
Agreed. 3 bursts, and they are all at max arcs. The hinges are less of an issue imo, I mainly have issue with skirt sheets.
So making a flipper as powerful as one would be IRL is OP now (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)
Plus it's easily cheesed by anything that gets under it, you know, like a IRL flipper (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)

Also, I'm fairly sure armour plates have the exact if not better stats that skirts so it's probably for the best he used skirts. (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)
Before you go and try and slam our Team Captain for factors outside his control, how about you consider the fact that it was you who set up the luck-based system that led to 3 overhead spinners being on our team, and it was you who accepted CS, despite either knowing that it was over powered, or failing to test it properly to see if it was overpowered. Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about overhead spinners, mate. There IS something wrong with a 3 piston flipper however.
Before you go and try and slam our Tourney Host for factors outside his control, how about you consider the fact that it was Baconus, Enigma, and you who sent butt ugly HS. He never even said they were OP anyways, he was just saying they can literally beat most the bots on the team aside from Paladin maybe. Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about slow and powerful flipper, mate. There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however. (Thanks F1Krazy for telling me so I can use it for copypasta)

Sounds like people just got E X P O S E D for trying to get ez wins with a HS (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)

Also, it's a fairly cool idea, and spikestrips aren't that durable, and you saw it get outwedged and flipped about the place by Paladin.
(http://i.imgur.com/WuwrqsF.png?1)
Croc Smile aka OMG SPIKE SPAM
10 spike strips x 2,000 hp each = 20,000 total HP
10 large beater bars x 2,500 hp each = 25,000 total HP
20,000 + 25,000 = 45,000 total HP
10 spike strips x  446 DP = 4,460 total DP + Flail boost since spike strips are only piercing
10 large beater bars x 240 DP = 2,400 total (No flail boost since pure concussion)
4,460 + 2,400 = 6,860 total DP + Flail boost

VS

Grindr aka OMG SAW SPAM
8 saws x 3,600 HP each (The appear to be 80cm Saws)  = 28,800 total HP
8 saws x  408 DP each = 3,264 total DP

Croc Smile > Grindr by 16,200 weapon HP
Croc Smile > Grindr by 3,595 weapon DP

So what bot had fragile weapons again (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)

And who would have guessed a rammer without a wedge got dunked on by a flipper, I mean, that's kinda how things work, right? (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Thyrus on February 25, 2017, 04:39:08 PM
from a observers point of view this was a really entertaining tournament up until the point when people started complaining.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 25, 2017, 04:41:09 PM
from a observers point of view this was a really entertaining tournament up until the point when people started complaining.
i think it's more entertaining now that people are complaining
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Dreamcast on February 25, 2017, 04:44:39 PM
Am I hearing F-Zero GX music?

(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Dat-Ass.jpg)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
from a observers point of view this was a really entertaining tournament up until the point when people started complaining.
i think it's more entertaining now that people are complaining
Every good tourney needs some good banter.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 25, 2017, 04:52:20 PM
Every good tourney needs some good banter.
this tbh
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Jammy Dodger on February 25, 2017, 04:55:19 PM
Every good tourney needs some good banter.
this tbh
AHOG sends his regards
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 05:12:03 PM
Every good tourney needs some good banter.
this tbh
AHOG sends his regards
Am I being sued?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 25, 2017, 05:25:00 PM

Agreed. 3 bursts, and they are all at max arcs. The hinges are less of an issue imo, I mainly have issue with skirt sheets.

Says the guy with 3 overhead spinners on his team, and a bot with nothing but hinges on his team.

Before you go and try and slam our Team Captain for factors outside his control, how about you consider the fact that it was you who set up the luck-based system that led to 3 overhead spinners being on our team, and it was you who accepted CS, despite either knowing that it was over powered, or failing to test it properly to see if it was overpowered. Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about overhead spinners, mate. There IS something wrong with a 3 piston flipper however.


Blame Gulden for allowing it. Also, it's a fairly cool idea, and spikestrips aren't that durable, and you saw it get outwedged and flipped about the place by Paladin.
ITT: Children getting salty that my bot is sh**canning their entire team.  :laughing

Cry about the flail ram before you start whinging about the powerful flipper. ty.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 25, 2017, 05:39:27 PM
ITT: Children getting salty that my bot is sh**canning their entire team.  :laughing

Cry about the flail ram before you start whinging about the powerful flipper. ty.
...b...but muh meta :c
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 25, 2017, 05:50:38 PM

Agreed. 3 bursts, and they are all at max arcs. The hinges are less of an issue imo, I mainly have issue with skirt sheets.

Says the guy with 3 overhead spinners on his team, and a bot with nothing but hinges on his team.

Before you go and try and slam our Team Captain for factors outside his control, how about you consider the fact that it was you who set up the luck-based system that led to 3 overhead spinners being on our team, and it was you who accepted CS, despite either knowing that it was over powered, or failing to test it properly to see if it was overpowered. Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about overhead spinners, mate. There IS something wrong with a 3 piston flipper however.


Blame Gulden for allowing it. Also, it's a fairly cool idea, and spikestrips aren't that durable, and you saw it get outwedged and flipped about the place by Paladin.
ITT: Children getting salty that my bot is sh**canning their entire team.  :laughing

Cry about the flail ram before you start whinging about the powerful flipper. ty.
The fact that so many autists still name Paladin as “the greatest or most significant or most influential” IRL bot ever only tells you how far IRL building  still is from becoming a serious art. Stock critics have long recognized that the greatest Stock builders of all times are Rejected and Starcore, who were not the most famous or richest or most prominent of their times, let alone of all times. DSL standard critics rank the highly controversial Naryar over DSL standard builders who were highly popular in courts around Europe. IRL critics are still blinded by commercial success. Paladin beat more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Stock critics grow up building  a lot of stock bots of the past, DSL critics grow up building  a lot of DSL bots of the past. IRL critics are often totally ignorant of the IRL bots of the past, they barely know the best ones. No wonder they will think that Paladin did anything worthy of being praised.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 25, 2017, 06:58:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGmTP6MEawE

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 25, 2017, 07:05:36 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 25, 2017, 07:09:16 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 07:10:39 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 25, 2017, 07:12:15 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on February 25, 2017, 07:33:40 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 25, 2017, 07:55:21 PM
Right: I dispute the Solaris VS MITP decision. I'd like somebody who was notguldenflame to rejudge the fight, preferably a tournament mod.

Why? Because I honestly don't feel like it's a good idea to have the tournament host act as judge when his robot is in the tournament, and especially when he's picked a side to be on. And this has happened before: Yugitom made judges decisions for Pangolin's fights during Death Battle because DemonOfTomorrow was the builder of Pangolin and the host of Death Battle simultaneously.

Here's the criteria, again: "Judging will be done by Aggression:(Amount of hits) Control: (The one that flew/was shoved the least) and Damage: (The in-game scoring)"

Ok, Damage: we can't see the indicators or the post match stuff. Presumably Solaris won, due to tearing off the wheel and weapon.

Control: Obviously MITP, sent Solaris across the ground and up in the air with hits, and without a weapon it shoved it around the arena.

Aggression: "Aggression was the hardest to decide.  The ratio I had at the end for aggression points were 68 to 59." What ratio? It's literally how many hits did each bot do? just ****ing count em. I dispute the decision over this: I don't think this is being counted right. You cna see moments when MITP's blade suddenly spins down then back up: that's it hitting something, but i don't think it's being included. The ratio just does not feel conducive to the hits, which is half of why i'm disputing the decision.

Also, 09, I'll have a proper response to your argument when I wake up, it's 1 o clock over here and I haven't the time right now as my original post got deleted due to internet issues.

Badger: That robot had flaws and had already been defeated by the point of the argument, plus just because one bot isn't exactly fair doesn't suddenly make your bot any better. I'll explain my issues when i wake up later today.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 25, 2017, 08:02:54 PM
Aggression: What ratio? It's literally how many hits did each bot do? just ****ing count em.
Ratio is amount of hits.  68 hits for solaris is pretty much definite, however, I didn't really know how to count the wedging of MitP.

I'm personally ok with a re-judging.  This was really close.

Besides, if I'll rig anything, I usually do it so I'll lose.  Back in WCR, I rigged it so BattleBreaker didn't win against Blizzard in the rumble, so rng didn't decide the winner.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 25, 2017, 08:05:32 PM
Aggression: What ratio? It's literally how many hits did each bot do? just ****ing count em.
Ratio is amount of hits.  68 hits for solaris is pretty much definite, however, I didn't really know how to count the wedging of MitP.

I'm personally ok with a re-judging.  This was really close.
I'd say take 5 people who are not in the tourney and make them judge.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 08:06:16 PM
Right: I dispute the Solaris VS MITP decision. I'd like somebody who was notguldenflame to rejudge the fight, preferably a tournament mod.

Why? Because I honestly don't feel like it's a good idea to have the tournament host act as judge when his robot is in the tournament, and especially when he's picked a side to be on. And this has happened before: Yugitom made judges decisions for Pangolin's fights during Death Battle because DemonOfTomorrow was the builder of Pangolin and the host of Death Battle simultaneously.
(http://i.imgur.com/URzvXy0.png?1)
You didn't seem to have a problem when he literally judged his own one sided fight against Jungle Fever and nobody else on your team has a problem with the result, seems like someone is a bit bootyblasted that they are now losing after all the sh** talking he was doing earlier and have his strategy E X P O S E D and picking the obvious bot for the round. (http://i.imgur.com/OsXjBdp.png?1)

Badger: That robot had flaws and had already been defeated by the point of the argument, plus just because one bot isn't exactly fair doesn't suddenly make your bot any better. I'll explain my issues when i wake up later today.
Yeah, it's not like Paladin wasn't beaten at all in the literal first video uploaded for this tourney or anything. It's also not like Flipster has 3 Long VDMA bursts while Paladin only has 3 Medium sized ones and nobody's complaining about Flipster
(http://i.imgur.com/J7Hhu65.gif)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: rafaxexe on February 25, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
I don't really get how does all of this work, but I'd say Light team has more potential
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 08:16:51 PM
I don't really get how does all of this work, but I'd say Light team has more potential
Thanks for the support man  :beer:
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 25, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
I don't really get how does all of this work, but I'd say Light team has more potential
Thanks for the support man  :beer:

third reich will rise again
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 25, 2017, 08:20:15 PM
Honestly, this entire tournament has been based upon luck. You have no idea what is coming next. I like this tourney idea, but I think it could be even better if both teams sent their lists, then they see the other teams list, and then edit one robot from their original list and then the fights happen. I am not trying to be biased in any way by saying this. Also not trying to start any flame wars.

-Baconus
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 25, 2017, 08:21:02 PM
Right: I dispute the Solaris VS MITP decision. I'd like somebody who was notguldenflame to rejudge the fight, preferably a tournament mod.

Why? Because I honestly don't feel like it's a good idea to have the tournament host act as judge when his robot is in the tournament, and especially when he's picked a side to be on. And this has happened before: Yugitom made judges decisions for Pangolin's fights during Death Battle because DemonOfTomorrow was the builder of Pangolin and the host of Death Battle simultaneously.
(http://i.imgur.com/URzvXy0.png?1)
You didn't seem to have a problem when he literally judged his own one sided fight against Jungle Fever and nobody else on your team has a problem with the result, seems like someone is a bit bootyblasted that they are now losing after all the sh** talking he was doing earlier and have his strategy E X P O S E D. (http://i.imgur.com/OsXjBdp.png?1)
Firstly, my sh**talking has been labelled as intentional and playing up to the fact I'm in Team Dark. You on the other hand are just trying to get a ride out of me and get me banned. Yeah, no.. And no, I didn't, because there was no point in disputing it, and I expected most fights to be straight knock outs or ootas if paladin was involved, and I've mostly been right in that assumption. Also, he's already accepted I've made a valid point, so perhaps it might be a good idea to quiet down, especially after I ceased sh**talking once the situation got worse, which just leaves you as the arrogant one especially considering I planned ahead and informed everyone that I was playing up the natural villain role because of being a Team Dark member, and ensured that people realised I wasn't being personal about it. You talk about game being "bootyblasted" but you try to mock me with anime images and seem to take a personal issue with the not-actually-hating-the-enemy sh**-talking. Let's put it this way: people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Il leave it at that, as I need some sleep for once.

Aggression: What ratio? It's literally how many hits did each bot do? just ****ing count em.
Ratio is amount of hits.  68 hits for solaris is pretty much definite, however, I didn't really know how to count the wedging of MitP.

I'm personally ok with a re-judging.  This was really close.

Besides, if I'll rig anything, I usually do it so I'll lose.  Back in WCR, I rigged it so BattleBreaker didn't win against Blizzard in the rumble, so rng didn't decide the winner.
Thanks for not throwing a sh**fit at my dispute.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 08:21:28 PM
Honestly, this entire tournament has been based upon luck. You have no idea what is coming next. I like this tourney idea, but I think it could be even better if both teams sent their lists, then they see the other teams list, and then edit one robot from their original list and then the fights happen. I am not trying to be biased in any way by saying this. Also not trying to start any flame wars.

-Baconus
This would actually be pretty dope for the first couple of rounds, but I would say list shouldn't be in order when the opponents sees them though, just to make things more interesting.

Firstly, my sh**talking has been labelled as intentional and playing up to the fact I'm in Team Dark. You on the other hand are just trying to get a ride out of me and get me banned. Yeah, no.. And no, I didn't, because there was no point in disputing it, and I expected most fights to be straight knock outs or ootas if paladin was involved, and I've mostly been right in that assumption. Also, he's already accepted I've made a valid point, so perhaps it might be a good idea to quiet down, especially after I ceased sh**talking once the situation got worse, which just leaves you as the arrogant one especially considering I planned ahead and informed everyone that I was playing up the natural villain role because of being a Team Dark member, and ensured that people realised I wasn't being personal about it. You talk about game being "bootyblasted" but you try to mock me with anime images and seem to take a personal issue with the not-actually-hating-the-enemy sh**-talking. Let's put it this way: people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Il leave it at that, as I need some sleep for once.
So basically you are the only one who's allowed to sh** talk or banter when winning?  :dumb)
Also, it's pretty damn arrogant to go and call for a redo without asking the captain of your team or anything, all it does it make you look like a poor loser fam.

also here's that anime image too:
(http://i.imgur.com/J5KPSwV.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: rafaxexe on February 25, 2017, 08:26:25 PM
I don't really get how does all of this work, but I'd say Light team has more potential
Thanks for the support man  :beer:

third reich will rise again
Dind't know ppl would like /pol/ here hahaha, great
Would love to help mein führer, is there a way for me to participate in these tournaments? what version are you even playing(or do i need/should have any mod)?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 25, 2017, 08:30:55 PM
Holy sh** the dark team tears are delicious. Why are you all (by which I mean some of you) so damn salty?
Right: I dispute the Solaris VS MITP decision. I'd like somebody who was notguldenflame to rejudge the fight, preferably a tournament mod.

Why? Because I honestly don't feel like it's a good idea to have the tournament host act as judge when his robot is in the tournament, and especially when he's picked a side to be on. And this has happened before: Yugitom made judges decisions for Pangolin's fights during Death Battle because DemonOfTomorrow was the builder of Pangolin and the host of Death Battle simultaneously.
(http://i.imgur.com/URzvXy0.png?1)
You didn't seem to have a problem when he literally judged his own one sided fight against Jungle Fever and nobody else on your team has a problem with the result, seems like someone is a bit bootyblasted that they are now losing after all the sh** talking he was doing earlier and have his strategy E X P O S E D. (http://i.imgur.com/OsXjBdp.png?1)
Firstly, my sh**talking has been labelled as intentional and playing up to the fact I'm in Team Dark. You on the other hand are just trying to get a ride out of me and get me banned. Yeah, no.. And no, I didn't, because there was no point in disputing it, and I expected most fights to be straight knock outs or ootas if paladin was involved, and I've mostly been right in that assumption. Also, he's already accepted I've made a valid point, so perhaps it might be a good idea to quiet down, especially after I ceased sh**talking once the situation got worse, which just leaves you as the arrogant one especially considering I planned ahead and informed everyone that I was playing up the natural villain role because of being a Team Dark member, and ensured that people realised I wasn't being personal about it. You talk about game being "bootyblasted" but you try to mock me with anime images and seem to take a personal issue with the not-actually-hating-the-enemy sh**-talking. Let's put it this way: people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Il leave it at that, as I need some sleep for once.

Aggression: What ratio? It's literally how many hits did each bot do? just ****ing count em.
Ratio is amount of hits.  68 hits for solaris is pretty much definite, however, I didn't really know how to count the wedging of MitP.

I'm personally ok with a re-judging.  This was really close.

Besides, if I'll rig anything, I usually do it so I'll lose.  Back in WCR, I rigged it so BattleBreaker didn't win against Blizzard in the rumble, so rng didn't decide the winner.
Thanks for not throwing a sh**fit at my dispute.
Didn't read your essay explanations, but if you seriously think that the robot that sustained no damage lost to the bot which lost its weapon and a wheel, you're deluded.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 25, 2017, 08:37:58 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/13373Screenshot (338).png)

I asked demon about this, he's ok with the decision.
Captains>Co-Captains.
The Re-Judging is a no-go.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 09090901 on February 25, 2017, 08:49:18 PM
k yall may wanna quell the sh**talking now

srs tho let's try to keep flames down. Throwing a lil shade at each other is in the nature of the tournament and is fine, but let's try not to bait each other just to get a rise out of certain users.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 25, 2017, 08:52:01 PM
Right: first, Demon: FFS. Second, Gulden: can you hand judging duties over to someone else who is neutral please?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 08:52:39 PM
Gulden: can you hand judging duties over to someone else who is neutral please?
Agreed for sure.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 25, 2017, 08:58:33 PM
Gulden: can you hand judging duties over to someone else who is neutral please?
Agreed for sure.

Well team Light captain calls for it.  I'll hand the baton off to thracker.  Cus I saw him first. :P
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 25, 2017, 09:11:27 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8132Screenshot (339).png)

Finally done with this.

Which means...
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 09:14:05 PM

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8132Screenshot (339).png)

Finally done with this.
I thought we were talking about for future matches, but I'll take it I guess  :dumb)

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 25, 2017, 09:19:28 PM
I TRIED SO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 25, 2017, 09:21:33 PM
I TRIED SO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 25, 2017, 09:30:52 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Mr. AS on February 25, 2017, 11:12:17 PM
Shoutout to my boys 09 and LRA2 for giving me a good laff
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 25, 2017, 11:54:46 PM
Can Dragoon Fight against 3 bots and win?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksDTQr-22qE


We'll do future events in this order.

Team Rumble
Free for all Rumble
Voting for grudge matches (1 per person)
Grudge matches
Awards

For now, the Team Rumble. 
The 2 captains will give me the order of all 8 robots on their teams.  The robots will fight in a 2v2 battle.
Once 2 robots from one team are out, the incapacitated robots will be replaced (Including the ones that were eliminated on the winning teams) with the next robots in the line-up.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on February 26, 2017, 12:42:40 AM

GG to all of you guys  :beer:
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 26, 2017, 02:30:56 AM

GG to all of you guys  :beer:

someone call the cops id like to report shots fired
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 26, 2017, 04:53:30 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Dreamcast on February 26, 2017, 05:00:29 AM
I TRIED SO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 26, 2017, 05:19:35 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 26, 2017, 06:57:35 AM
Team format definitely made things more interesting
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 26, 2017, 07:43:49 AM
I promised a response, and you're getting it.

Agreed. 3 bursts, and they are all at max arcs. The hinges are less of an issue imo, I mainly have issue with skirt sheets.
So making a flipper as powerful as one would be IRL is OP now (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)
Plus it's easily cheesed by anything that gets under it, you know, like a IRL flipper (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)

Also, I'm fairly sure armour plates have the exact if not better stats that skirts so it's probably for the best he used skirts. (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)
Before you go and try and slam our Team Captain for factors outside his control, how about you consider the fact that it was you who set up the luck-based system that led to 3 overhead spinners being on our team, and it was you who accepted CS, despite either knowing that it was over powered, or failing to test it properly to see if it was overpowered. Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about overhead spinners, mate. There IS something wrong with a 3 piston flipper however.
Before you go and try and slam our Tourney Host for factors outside his control (he was the one who accepted CS, so it was entirely in his control), how about you consider the fact that it was Baconus, Enigma, and you who sent butt ugly HS . He never even said they were OP anyways, he was just saying they can literally beat most the bots on the team aside from Paladin maybe. Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about slow and powerful flipper, mate. There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however. (Thanks F1Krazy for telling me so I can use it for copypasta)

Sounds like people just got E X P O S E D for trying to get ez wins with a HS (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)

Also, it's a fairly cool idea, and spikestrips aren't that durable, and you saw it get outwedged and flipped about the place by Paladin.
(http://i.imgur.com/WuwrqsF.png?1)
Croc Smile aka OMG SPIKE SPAM
10 spike strips x 2,000 hp each = 20,000 total HP
10 large beater bars x 2,500 hp each = 25,000 total HP
20,000 + 25,000 = 45,000 total HP
10 spike strips x  446 DP = 4,460 total DP + Flail boost since spike strips are only piercing
10 large beater bars x 240 DP = 2,400 total (No flail boost since pure concussion)
4,460 + 2,400 = 6,860 total DP + Flail boost

VS

Grindr aka OMG SAW SPAM
8 saws x 3,600 HP each (The appear to be 80cm Saws)  = 28,800 total HP
8 saws x  408 DP each = 3,264 total DP

Croc Smile > Grindr by 16,200 weapon HP
Croc Smile > Grindr by 3,595 weapon DP

So what bot had fragile weapons again (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)

And who would have guessed a rammer without a wedge got dunked on by a flipper, I mean, that's kinda how things work, right? (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)

Right, let's dissect and destroy this argument.



"So making a flipper as powerful as one would be IRL is OP now" Yes, this is RA2 not real life, and besides, if we're going on that argument, what the hell kind of IRL flipper uses 3 pistons simultaneously? The problem here is that Paladin, while being cool looking enough to class as IRL, is on the verge of becoming tryhard. If this sort of 3 burst flipper was done by somebody less skilled (i'll ignore flipster because the fact is his swing arc on the flippers are very short, so it's not too powerful in practice), people would flip their sh**. And when Baconus built a 3 piston hammer bot, Badger did.

Do robot wars bots have 3 hammers? (hint: no, they don't)

If you want to play for max efficiency, go for DSL-S. IRL isn't for efficiency.

The irony is absolutely killing me here: either Badger's a total hypocrite and has intentionally broken his statement "IRL isn't for efficiency", and/or or you've decided that his bot being OP (BY HIS OWN STATED STANDARDS, I MIGHT ADD) is perfectly fine. I'm going with the latter here, Badger's been a bit of a snarky arse with the "sh**canning" post but he obviously put time into this.

"Plus it's easily cheesed by anything that gets under it, you know, like a IRL flipper" Or a bot with a component wedge? Yeah, this is also hypocritical considering on the Banter Wars Wiki discord you slammed me for using a skirt hinge wedge with emergency wedge (which in previous bots i've made can and has been torn right off), so either we built a robot with wedges that can beat your robot, at which point you decide to bitch and moan about using metal/skirt hinge wedges, or we take the moral high road and try and build IRL bots with efficiency that doesn't make them ungodly OP (See Executioner and Fighter Mk.II which use powerful weapons, but still have obvious flaws in that they don't have wedges and cannot selfright well) and then decide to raise valid concerns (which could have been dealt with some sort of civility considering the more serious tone used by Demon), and you promptly try to mock us for it. Great. That seems fair and not hypocritical.

"Also, I'm fairly sure armour plates have the exact if not better stats that skirts so it's probably for the best he used skirts." That wasn't what I was referring to. I was referring to Demon complaining about Badger using skirt/metal hinges with small wedges on, but I said that I had no issue with that. Context, 09, context.

"Before you go and try and slam our Tourney Host for factors outside his control, how about you consider the fact that it was Baconus, Enigma, and you who sent butt ugly HS . He never even said they were OP anyways, he was just saying they can literally beat most the bots on the team aside from Paladin maybe. Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about slow and powerful flipper, mate. There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however."

"Tourney host for factors outside his control": The tournament host literally has control over all the factors of the tournament: he writes the rules, organises the tournament, and critically: ACCEPTS THE BOTS. Gulden is highly hypocritical for mocking CS as a flail ram, considering he was the guy who took it, accepted it, and had to test the AI on it and didn't think at any point "nah this is too overpowered" but then when he saw it in action he pulled a 180 and mocked Jamied666 for entering it. Alright, that's sort of standard for those who can't do anything about it, such as myself and demon about Paladin, and 09 and Badger about CS, but for the host to turn around and say that is pretty hypocritical. That being said the CS hate is 80% justified in my opinion.

"how about you consider the fact that it was Baconus, Enigma, and you who sent butt ugly HS": Enigma's bot is not ugly. It's a bit bland other than the skin, but sure as hell not ugly. And if you disagree, then by your ridiculously high standards: Challenge is a white box with some metal and a eggbeater, making it bland and ugly (by your standards), Axe Questions Later is just bad, Killshot (by your standards) is a flat metallic box with a hammer, and hell, even solaris is just a orange/red tombclone. And before you say "Killshot and Solaris aren't bad" then frankly Executioner, MITP and Fighter aren't that bad either, but not every builder can create works of art, can they? Perhaps help them (Baconus) improve rather than writing them off as butt ugly and taking the piss?

"He never even said they were OP anyways, he was just saying they can literally beat most the bots on the team aside from Paladin maybe."

So this: "and a bot with nothing but hinges on his team." isn't meant to say that the robot is a OP flail ram? "Nothing but hinges" says that it only works because of the hinges, hence it is only a op flail ram. Also, he's the host who accepted it, so he's hypocritical for allowing it at the time but dissing the builder now.

"Oh, and there's nothing un-IRL about slow and powerful flipper, mate." No. No there isn't. Precisely what is your point here? Sounds to me like you're running out of ideas for your copypasta, showing that your argument is not well founded. At all. Because i haven't mentioned this even once: My problem is with the 3 bursts, which is just dancing on the lines between IRL,Tryhard IRL and DSL-S imo. If a worse builder built a 3 burst flipper, people would be all over him.

"There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however.": I concede that this is intentionally going for efficiency over looks and is not in the spirit of IRL, but what the hell has this got to do with me? F1Krazy's fault, not mine, I didn't build it and I didn't even mention it in my argument. Go attack him for it, not me. Jungle Party's existence in this tournament is down to 2 people: F1Krazy and take a wild guess at who the second it: Guldenflame. If you're going to get "bootyblasted" over a OP tombclone perhaps you should complain to the host, instead of somebody who was handed JP to his team without his control over the matter. I did precisely that with Paladin.

"Sounds like people just got E X P O S E D for trying to get ez wins with a HS" Oh please. The irony of this is shocking: is the name Solaris ringing any bloody bells?  You've literally got no point here, because your own team has won this tournament through usage of a 3 burst flipper with large arcs to maximize power, as well as using a Tombclone HS, in a arena where flippers were meant to have a hard time to flip robots out. It's almost as if nobody was expecting flippers, so Badger (and TGM, but he limited his swing arc like a proper lad) decided to get "ez wins with a" overly powerful flipper.

And now, for the final vestige of your argument, which has either missed the point, provided key flaws that I can exploit, or both.

It's time for the snarky "consider the following" section to be annihilated.

Croc Smile aka OMG SPIKE SPAM
10 spike strips x 2,000 hp each = 20,000 total HP
10 large beater bars x 2,500 hp each = 25,000 total HP
20,000 + 25,000 = 45,000 total HP
10 spike strips x  446 DP = 4,460 total DP + Flail boost since spike strips are only piercing
10 large beater bars x 240 DP = 2,400 total (No flail boost since pure concussion)
4,460 + 2,400 = 6,860 total DP + Flail boost

VS

Grindr aka OMG SAW SPAM
8 saws x 3,600 HP each (The appear to be 80cm Saws)  = 28,800 total HP
8 saws x  408 DP each = 3,264 total DP

Wow. Impressive mathematics. This would seal your argument: Had you not missed the fact that the large beaters are not meant to deal damage, and are used to hold on the spike strips. They are literally right at the back of the jaw: they 'd barely scratch somebody's wedge if lucky. And also I was only referring to the spike strips in my argument, so this makes all of your calculations inherently unbalanced.

"10 spike strips x 2,000 hp each = 20,000 total HP"
"8 saws x 3,600 HP each (The appear to be 80cm Saws)  = 28,800 total HP"

So what bot had fragile weapons again (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/268063211738234881.png)

Crocodile Smile. 20,000 < 28,800. So the point that I had made was, looking at purely what I said and the logic of it's weaponry: true.

And as for the weapon DP: Yeah, CS is overpowered. It's undeniable. But Gulden accepted it, so don't get "bootyblasted" by me about his mistake. And also, taking off the 2,400 DP from the beater bars makes it a closer gap.
And also you haven't accounted for the fact that Grindr's saws have frequency.
And also you forgot that throughout the fight CS slammed Grindr around the arena so that it couldn't get it's saws into play at all, because it was inherently better at controlling the fight than Grind.

Right, that's your argument obliterated. Anything you want to add?

I'm not even going to congratulate you for the victory, to be honest. You won through the luck of the draw: our team had no flippers, you did. You just scraped by with a close decision over MITP, and if JP or Executioner hadn't lost, we could have taken this tournament.

I'll see you next tournament (whether Gulden hosts it as a sequel which would be nice if he could work out the faults and problems this tournament had, or if I just rip it off and solve the problems myself and set somebody else to judge), in any case. Preferably as Captain.


GG to all of you guys  :beer:


Well, somebody thinks they're a big shot, don't they? You mean your TEAM won a tournament. Don't let this TEAM victory go to your head. It's a team victory because Paladin and Challenge took out the robots that could have annihilated you (Executioner, JP) before you got involved. I'll see you in the challenge board once I finish up with TheRoboteer. (Though Solaris was an excellent first entrant, I must add. But talking sh** this early in your time on GTM? Yeah, i'm going to enjoy beating you.)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 26, 2017, 08:02:27 AM
Not gonna quote because nobody wants to read that garbage twice.

All I'm gonna say is that having 3 separate hammer arms isn't IRL, at least in the way baconus presented it. Having 3 actual burst motors is fine in my book, because RA2 doesn't allow for a single burst to be powerful enough for IRL standards. Also, if I had wanted Paladin just to be tryhard broken I would've given it hitler-style wedges that weren't ass, made it 2WD with not terrible drive motors and saved a ton of weight on unnessecary armour etc. It's supposed to be tank inspired - slow but with heavy armour and a powerful weapon. Hopefully that design inspiration comes across in the bot's aesthetics.

Let's be honest, you're only crying about it because you lost to it.

And NeonCalypso's bot is better than yours :>
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 26, 2017, 08:25:34 AM
*you're
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Mecha on February 26, 2017, 08:31:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhsOW-_TwfU
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Mecha on February 26, 2017, 08:44:33 AM
> 15
> Elder
I meant that as in how long he's been here, not his actual age
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 26, 2017, 08:49:44 AM
I want a rumble/grudge match of Flipster vs 3 HS.


Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 26, 2017, 09:21:02 AM
Let's be honest, you're only crying about it because you lost to it.

I'm sick of hearing this argument. Instead of listening to the argument that I put forward, you decide to yell "LOL YOU LOST TO IT SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID". This is just a desperate way of ignoring the point i'm making that in RA2 3 burst flippers just aren't fair. I know you're trying to simulate real life, but 3 bursts is excessive. I get what you were going for with paladin, but take the power of Paladin. Then put that into a sloppier bot, which might use even larger bursts. You would end up with a horrific robot that if it persisted in being made could completely **** up the IRL meta: and we've been here before with the Judge Burst Flippers saga of dsl.2.1. Hence, I want to prevent these 3 burst flippers from catching on. Also, 3 bursts is necessary? Calling BS. Hell, Anti Gravity Evo flipped robots out the Ring arena with a good run up and a flip, and it used a SINGLE burst. 2 bursts should be maximum.

I want a rumble/grudge match of Flipster vs 3 HS.



No, Jamied said they were used as extenders. The reason he used them, presumably, was that in the case that many of the spike strips were lost, he could try and ram with the beaters instead. but they aren't at the front of the bot: they are right at the back of the jaw where it's much more likely CS will end up stopping the robot with the part of the strips at the back, and where they won't get a flail boost.

And you missed the point yet again: I was saying that those robots were bad by your impossibly high standards: Killshot's alright with some neat wheelguards, and a cool, sleek finish, but could do with more colour. Challenge is actually quite good with the way the weapon supports were made. AQL isn't absolute cancer, but it's not the best. Solaris is really cool but needs skin work done.

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 26, 2017, 09:32:04 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 26, 2017, 09:49:25 AM
"It was a direct counter to when you said Paladin was tryhard because it had hinged wedges."
Those are flails, and I was referring to Demon talking about Skirt and Metal hinges.
"Can I just be blunt and say I had no idea what you guys were talking about when you guys said "Tryhard."
That might put at least something straight."
Yeah you shouldn't host an IRL tournament if you don't know what IRL means.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: F1Krazy on February 26, 2017, 09:57:07 AM
Quote
There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however.

What I saw, they weren't stacked, rather placed right next to each other...
I dunno how 09 interpreted "stapled together" as "stacked inside each other", but yeah, all I did was make the bar thicker, I didn't think it would be this big a deal
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 26, 2017, 10:34:52 AM
i want a match of monster vs. paladin
also lra2 pls
also gulden we NEED lvd 2 ok
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 26, 2017, 10:37:47 AM
Grindr VS [Open Invitation], my man.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 26, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
Grindr VS [Open Invitation], my man.

Ill take you scrub
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 26, 2017, 11:39:18 AM
Yeah you shouldn't host an IRL tournament if you don't know what IRL means.
Good to know that you'll never host an IRL tournament then :>
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 26, 2017, 12:01:50 PM
Yeah you shouldn't host an IRL tournament if you don't know what IRL means.
Good to know that you'll never host an IRL tournament then :>
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17174.0

Any other flame bait? I can do this all day.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 26, 2017, 12:12:13 PM
> Implying you're a better tournament host than Gulden
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Probably Rob on February 26, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
Guldenflame... more like... Guldenflamebait
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 26, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
> Implying you're a better tournament host than Gulden

Challenge Accepted.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: playzooki on February 26, 2017, 12:26:11 PM
Yeah you shouldn't host an IRL tournament if you don't know what IRL means.
Good to know that you'll never host an IRL tournament then :>
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17174.0

Any other flame bait? I can do this all day.
You know it's a bad tournament when I finish second with a multibot I made in about 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 26, 2017, 12:31:09 PM
> Implying you're a better tournament host than Gulden

Challenge Accepted.
Guldenflame:
Wildcard Rally, 18 Entrants, approximately twenty trillion battles.
1 Shot Showdown, 16 entrants, double elimination, pretty cool gimmick.
Light VS Dark: 16 entrants on two teams, another cool gimmick.

Avalanche:
Destructo Bots: I don't have time to read all the stuff, but the last page where it all breaks down is pretty funny.
First Strike: 8 entrants.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 26, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: playzooki on February 26, 2017, 12:54:07 PM
> Implying you're a better tournament host than Gulden

Challenge Accepted.
Guldenflame:
Wildcard Rally, 18 Entrants, approximately twenty trillion battles.
1 Shot Showdown, 16 entrants, double elimination, pretty cool gimmick.
Light VS Dark: 16 entrants on two teams, another cool gimmick.

Avalanche:
Destructo Bots: I don't have time to read all the stuff, but the last page where it all breaks down is pretty funny.
First Strike: 8 entrants.
mate you forgot this (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=3251.0)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 26, 2017, 12:59:30 PM
How about my (slightly) less sucky SHW version of BBS vs one HW and one mw...or heavier hitler
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 26, 2017, 01:14:07 PM
> Implying you're a better tournament host than Gulden
Challenge Accepted.
hahahaahahha
oh my god dude, you're so mad that you lost
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Sylandro on February 26, 2017, 02:20:26 PM
wew lad

i still love you and TR2 lra2
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Mr. AS on February 26, 2017, 02:42:20 PM
[video]
"my b" - Avalanche, or as he's more commonly known, Life Robot Arena 2 [LRA2 for short]

1 Shot Showdown, pretty cool gimmick.
debatable, but the rest of the post checks out
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 26, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
How about my (slightly) less sucky SHW version of BBS vs one HW and one mw...or heavier hitler
Just saying, I'm only doing the robots that were in the tournament.

You could just as easily post something on the challenge board.
Guldenflame... more like... Guldenflamebait
Found a new Discord Nickname.


I guess people are doing grudge match requests right now, so will start taking notes.

Grudge match suggestions I guess are open. 1 per person.
(Because let's be real, what's the likelyhood of a match being replicated in the rumbles.)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 26, 2017, 03:50:29 PM
Just sent my rumble line up, let's see who wins now in bizarro world.

Quote
There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however.

What I saw, they weren't stacked, rather placed right next to each other...
I dunno how 09 interpreted "stapled together" as "stacked inside each other", but yeah, all I did was make the bar thicker, I didn't think it would be this big a deal
Sorry man, my bad. I thought by stapled you mean't stacked, plus it looked only one bar thick to me, guess I have bad eyes or something.


Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 26, 2017, 05:46:32 PM
Just sent my rumble line up, let's see who wins now in bizarro world.

Quote
There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however.

What I saw, they weren't stacked, rather placed right next to each other...
I dunno how 09 interpreted "stapled together" as "stacked inside each other", but yeah, all I did was make the bar thicker, I didn't think it would be this big a deal
Sorry man, my bad. I thought by stapled you mean't stacked, plus it looked only one bar thick to me, guess I have bad eyes or something.



I have a response that beats all arguments here, but for the sake of ending the argument and avoiding a ban, i'll shut up. But don't take this as any confirmation of you "winning" the argument, take this as me being held back.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 26, 2017, 05:54:45 PM
Just sent my rumble line up, let's see who wins now in bizarro world.

Quote
There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however.

What I saw, they weren't stacked, rather placed right next to each other...
I dunno how 09 interpreted "stapled together" as "stacked inside each other", but yeah, all I did was make the bar thicker, I didn't think it would be this big a deal
Sorry man, my bad. I thought by stapled you mean't stacked, plus it looked only one bar thick to me, guess I have bad eyes or something.



I have a response that beats all arguments here, but for the sake of ending the argument and avoiding a ban, i'll shut up. But don't take this as any confirmation of you "winning" the argument, take this as me being held back.
nigga you just need to take this L we lost, get over it
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 26, 2017, 05:57:55 PM
Just to play devil's advocate, if you beat all arguments then that ends it too.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Mecha on February 26, 2017, 06:05:10 PM
someone should host another one of these, the drama is great.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 26, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Just sent my rumble line up, let's see who wins now in bizarro world.

Quote
There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however.

What I saw, they weren't stacked, rather placed right next to each other...
I dunno how 09 interpreted "stapled together" as "stacked inside each other", but yeah, all I did was make the bar thicker, I didn't think it would be this big a deal
Sorry man, my bad. I thought by stapled you mean't stacked, plus it looked only one bar thick to me, guess I have bad eyes or something.



I have a response that beats all arguments here, but for the sake of ending the argument and avoiding a ban, i'll shut up. But don't take this as any confirmation of you "winning" the argument, take this as me being held back.
nigga you just need to take this L we lost, get over it
My issues go beyond that at this point.

Just to play devil's advocate, if you beat all arguments then that ends it too.

i think i'd get banned before 09 concedes my point in all honesty. I'd rather I didn't get banned, thanks.  :dumb)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 26, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
Don't worry, you probably won't be around for a whole lot longer anyway.

Would this tournament work with 3/4 teams at all?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 26, 2017, 06:14:50 PM
Just sent my rumble line up, let's see who wins now in bizarro world.

Quote
There IS something wrong with a  2 Moros blades stacked in each other, however.

What I saw, they weren't stacked, rather placed right next to each other...
I dunno how 09 interpreted "stapled together" as "stacked inside each other", but yeah, all I did was make the bar thicker, I didn't think it would be this big a deal
Sorry man, my bad. I thought by stapled you mean't stacked, plus it looked only one bar thick to me, guess I have bad eyes or something.



I have a response that beats all arguments here, but for the sake of ending the argument and avoiding a ban, i'll shut up. But don't take this as any confirmation of you "winning" the argument, take this as me being held back.
You should give us that response since you haven't said anything remotely convincing yet  :dumb)

Anyway thanks for the tournament Gulden; neat mechanic and very fast uploads. Hopefully we get light vs dark pt. 2 at some point!
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on February 26, 2017, 06:21:56 PM
Anyway thanks for the tournament Gulden; neat mechanic and very fast uploads. Hopefully we get light vs dark pt. 2 at some point!
Idea for Light vs Dark 2. Have two people be voted captains, and then they "draft" the bots that will make up the team, I think that would make it a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 26, 2017, 06:29:55 PM
Would this tournament work with 3/4 teams at all?
I think so if you do rumbles.
You could also do 2 1v1 battles with 1 team battling each time.
Anyway thanks for the tournament Gulden; neat mechanic and very fast uploads. Hopefully we get light vs dark pt. 2 at some point!

Thanks. I was thinking if I supplied too many uploads at once I might overwhelm someone.  Glad to see it was good for ye.
As for pt 2.  I'm contemplating whether to do it immediately after this or after a different tournament.

My current next idea is DSL-S Beetleweights.
Idea for Light vs Dark 2. Have two people be voted captains, and then they "draft" the bots that will make up the team, I think that would make it a lot more interesting.

Captains before sign-ups, then everyone builds the captain's dream team...
My question is how will we keep the teams secret.
Cus honestly...
Baconus_Yum: Executioner:2
Avalanche: Fighter Mk II.:8

Time to put the past behind us and work together.
Agreed, as long as your robot isn't absolute fecal matter. Though I honestly do hope you've inproved.

This was a great moment.


P.S. Still waiting on Demon so we can do the team rumble.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Dreamcast on February 26, 2017, 07:48:04 PM
someone should host another one of these, the drama is great.
Remember that you can rip off this tournament.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 26, 2017, 09:27:57 PM
Anyway thanks for the tournament Gulden; neat mechanic and very fast uploads. Hopefully we get light vs dark pt. 2 at some point!
Idea for Light vs Dark 2. Have two people be voted captains, and then they "draft" the bots that will make up the team, I think that would make it a lot more interesting.
I tried to suggest it. Give it the Ultimate Fighter team combat structure. Team A gets first draft, team B makes first matchup. Winning team controls matchups.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on February 26, 2017, 09:55:32 PM
Solaris vs Fighter MK II, Let's get over it Avalanche.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 26, 2017, 11:38:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mzk-ox_8BU

Got a rumble right here

Next will be the all bot rumble.
I must praise my lord and savior RNJesus, so I will tribute this rumble to him.
Also because there's a single winner in the All bot rumble.  Not teams.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 27, 2017, 02:25:03 AM
So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 27, 2017, 02:33:03 AM
So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.

can you like maybe stop

everyone's having fun with this. if you want a real competitive tourney, Kurt's Master of Disaster is still open for signups iirc
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 27, 2017, 02:34:29 AM
So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.

can you like maybe stop

everyone's having fun with this. if you want a real competitive tourney, Kurt's Master of Disaster is still open for signups iirc

oh I was having fun, then this tryhard 3 flipper BS came along. And no, I don't want a competitive tourney, I'd like an actual IRL one like this was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 27, 2017, 02:36:46 AM
So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.

:>

Don't worry about kix's 3 burst flipper, or the fact that it got outwedged by a static wedge.

Maybe if you understood that I only used 3 bursts in order to get the proper width for the flipping plate, and that the number of bursts is literally 100% irrelevant anyway, you wouldn't be so salty.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Mr. AS on February 27, 2017, 02:36:57 AM
for the sake of ending the argument and avoiding a ban, i'll shut up
So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.

Things that make you go

Hmmmmmm...
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 27, 2017, 02:42:20 AM
So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.

:>

Don't worry about kix's 3 burst flipper (which had a small burst arc that meant that it was not as overpowered as paladin), or the fact that it got outwedged by a static wedge (because it flipped and lifted itself up, not proving anything about wedges? And besides, MITP got thrown out soon after anyways, so your "outwedging" point is invalid).

Maybe if you understood that I only used 3 bursts in order to get the proper width for the flipping plate (extenders exist, use them) , and that the number of bursts is literally 100% irrelevant anyway (No. No it isn't. You don't see real robots with 3 simultaneous pistons. It's not IRL, and it's tryhard. Kix just gets a pass because he made his robot weak in other ways, such as having a short swing arc and being very easy to damage.), you wouldn't be so salty.

for the sake of ending the argument and avoiding a ban, i'll shut up
So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.

Things that make you go

Hmmmmmm...

He's deliberately giving me sh** via PM, so at this point I don't care. I'm not going to have this sh** happen again and again: I raised a perfectly good point, and in return he and 09 decided to talk sh**.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 09090901 on February 27, 2017, 02:55:36 AM
k yall may wanna quell the sh**talking now

srs tho let's try to keep flames down. Throwing a lil shade at each other is in the nature of the tournament and is fine, but let's try not to bait each other just to get a rise out of certain users.
again

Anymore and this thread's getting a lock for a cleanup with warnings.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 27, 2017, 03:02:52 AM
I raised a perfectly good point
(https://www.awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/ooWLqeY.gif)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Mecha on February 27, 2017, 03:19:54 AM
can you two stop now it isn't even funny anymore
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on February 27, 2017, 03:21:12 AM
can you two stop now it isn't even funny anymore
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Thyrus on February 27, 2017, 04:09:55 AM
If you guys don't stop the bitching I will lock this thread. And I don't think gulden deserves to have his great tournament end like this.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on February 27, 2017, 04:12:46 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: CMDR Melander on February 27, 2017, 04:22:26 AM
Really enjoyed this tournament, thanks to Gulden for hosting. Cool gimmick, hope to see more.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Jammy Dodger on February 27, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
can you two stop now it isn't even funny anymore
this

So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.

:>

Don't worry about kix's 3 burst flipper (which had a small burst arc that meant that it was not as overpowered as paladin), or the fact that it got outwedged by a static wedge (because it flipped and lifted itself up, not proving anything about wedges? And besides, MITP got thrown out soon after anyways, so your "outwedging" point is invalid).

Maybe if you understood that I only used 3 bursts in order to get the proper width for the flipping plate (extenders exist, use them) , and that the number of bursts is literally 100% irrelevant anyway (No. No it isn't. You don't see real robots with 3 simultaneous pistons. It's not IRL, and it's tryhard. Kix just gets a pass because he made his robot weak in other ways, such as having a short swing arc and being very easy to damage.), you wouldn't be so salty.

for the sake of ending the argument and avoiding a ban, i'll shut up
So the 3 burst flipper defeats the enemy team because they all didn't have wedges.
What a ****ing surprise. Greatest robot of all time, clearly. /s

Not sure why Badger's too proud of himself for making this travesty.

Things that make you go

Hmmmmmm...

He's deliberately giving me sh** via PM, so at this point I don't care. I'm not going to have this sh** happen again and again: I raised a perfectly good point, and in return he and 09 decided to talk sh**.
avalanche please stop your taking a RA2 TEAM TOURNAMENT way to far and its just annoying, I liked this tournament but due to some people being jackasses saying "OH YOUR ROBOT HAS 3 BURSTS" "WE SHOULD OF WON" its gone sh**. Just shut up and enjoy this. Thanks Gulden for the tournament.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: kill343gs on February 27, 2017, 11:14:48 AM
One more goddamn post about this fight and we're going to start handing out reprimand. We've been letting this coast because it has looked like it might have calmed down multiple times, but someone has to keep bringing it back up.

All posts in this thread from this point forward are to be about any remaining matches to be posted.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 27, 2017, 11:51:34 AM
Soooo...who wants to fight a terribly slow, fragile, but ok looking VS?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on February 27, 2017, 11:52:38 AM
Soooo...who wants to fight a terribly slow, fragile, but ok looking VS?
saws vs saws
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on February 27, 2017, 11:58:56 AM
Can we just have 4 Paladins fighting each other so we can be sure it can be beaten? ;P

In all seriousness, why not an axebot battle? Dragoon Evo, KillShot, HammerHead and AQL all battling eachother at once.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 27, 2017, 12:44:15 PM
Fighter Mk2 (inventive name m8) vs Paladin for a grudge pls
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on February 27, 2017, 01:21:42 PM
Soooo...who wants to fight a terribly slow, fragile, but ok looking VS?
saws vs saws
It's the fight I wanted all along. The 3 vs the 8.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 27, 2017, 01:25:21 PM
I personally want a survivors rumble.
Solaris vs Challenge vs  Paladin
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on February 27, 2017, 01:37:17 PM
You've already seen Fighter Mk. II fight Paladin twice. A wedgeless HS vs Paladin has gone down the exact same way 4 times now (2 times on Executioner, 2 on Fighter Mk. II.), so how about something different? I've made a flipper myself (admittedly rushed due to needing to get it out there then post this then do revision), and if Gulden is willing to AI another robot i'll gladly fight you with that. But a Paladin vs Fighter Mk. II fight is not what I want because we've already seen it and it merely adds for what is borderline flaming, and hence I request both you and Gulden not to do it.

Oh, and the name comes from my old (and terrible) robot called Fighter, and I decided to make a new version in HW style, built after I've spent time improving my IRL craft. The Mk. 2 moniker should be fairly obvious, as this is the second version (Mark stands for Version or Model, so for short, Mk.) of Fighter. The name Fighter matches with the original counterpart, Brawler, which was even worse, so that needs to be updated as well.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on February 27, 2017, 01:46:56 PM
i still want a monster v paladin fight
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: F1Krazy on February 27, 2017, 01:47:22 PM
Anyone wanna fight Jungle Fever? I feel like it didn't get much of a chance to show off its stuff.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 27, 2017, 02:07:07 PM
You've already seen Fighter Mk. II fight Paladin twice. A wedgeless HS vs Paladin has gone down the exact same way 4 times now (2 times on Executioner, 2 on Fighter Mk. II.), so how about something different? I've made a flipper myself (admittedly rushed due to needing to get it out there then post this then do revision), and if Gulden is willing to AI another robot i'll gladly fight you with that. But a Paladin vs Fighter Mk. II fight is not what I want because we've already seen it and it merely adds for what is borderline flaming, and hence I request both you and Gulden not to do it.

I do feel like Paladin vs Fighter might be a bit redundant, but they're they one wanting the grudge match.
Also, I'm not going to be accepting robots for grudge matches that weren't in the tournament itself.  We have the challenge board for stuff like that.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Jammy Dodger on February 27, 2017, 02:28:19 PM
Anyone wanna fight Jungle Fever? I feel like it didn't get much of a chance to show off its stuff.
BOI yo getting Crocodile :P Yeah sure i'll fight ya

Crocodile Smile VS 3 other bots say if you wanna have a fight :D
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: NeighImACarrot on February 27, 2017, 05:25:35 PM
content removed, user warned
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on February 27, 2017, 06:03:26 PM
content removed, user warned

Shhhhh..!

We don't want this thread locked do we!?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on February 27, 2017, 06:26:04 PM
You've already seen Fighter Mk. II fight Paladin twice. A wedgeless HS vs Paladin has gone down the exact same way 4 times now (2 times on Executioner, 2 on Fighter Mk. II.), so how about something different? I've made a flipper myself (admittedly rushed due to needing to get it out there then post this then do revision), and if Gulden is willing to AI another robot i'll gladly fight you with that. But a Paladin vs Fighter Mk. II fight is not what I want because we've already seen it and it merely adds for what is borderline flaming, and hence I request both you and Gulden not to do it.

Oh, and the name comes from my old (and terrible) robot called Fighter, and I decided to make a new version in HW style, built after I've spent time improving my IRL craft. The Mk. 2 moniker should be fairly obvious, as this is the second version (Mark stands for Version or Model, so for short, Mk.) of Fighter. The name Fighter matches with the original counterpart, Brawler, which was even worse, so that needs to be updated as well.
Ye I'm not gonna endorse a fight vs a bot a you made specifically to counter my bot. I mean, I'd probably win anyway, but it's the principle. You should've entered that flipper in the first place.


Hows about Paladin vs Solaris?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: kill343gs on March 01, 2017, 12:00:42 PM
3 staff members have stated that they are monitoring this thread. Let's not be stupid.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on March 01, 2017, 01:03:22 PM
Anyone wanna fight Jungle Fever? I feel like it didn't get much of a chance to show off its stuff.
i'd be down
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: kix on March 02, 2017, 12:16:37 AM
If this is still on.. anyone wanna fight my bot?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 02, 2017, 12:19:44 AM
If this is still on.. anyone wanna fight my bot?
Yeah this is still on.
In fact, the rumble is finally here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kkAtufyDpk


I'll start recording the grudge matches at the end of the week.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: F1Krazy on March 02, 2017, 01:45:22 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on March 02, 2017, 03:21:57 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on March 02, 2017, 04:25:38 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on March 02, 2017, 06:36:58 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on March 02, 2017, 06:43:02 AM
You've already seen Fighter Mk. II fight Paladin twice. A wedgeless HS vs Paladin has gone down the exact same way 4 times now (2 times on Executioner, 2 on Fighter Mk. II.), so how about something different? I've made a flipper myself (admittedly rushed due to needing to get it out there then post this then do revision), and if Gulden is willing to AI another robot i'll gladly fight you with that. But a Paladin vs Fighter Mk. II fight is not what I want because we've already seen it and it merely adds for what is borderline flaming, and hence I request both you and Gulden not to do it.

Oh, and the name comes from my old (and terrible) robot called Fighter, and I decided to make a new version in HW style, built after I've spent time improving my IRL craft. The Mk. 2 moniker should be fairly obvious, as this is the second version (Mark stands for Version or Model, so for short, Mk.) of Fighter. The name Fighter matches with the original counterpart, Brawler, which was even worse, so that needs to be updated as well.
Ye I'm not gonna endorse a fight vs a bot a you made specifically to counter my bot. I mean, I'd probably win anyway, but it's the principle. You should've entered that flipper in the first place.


Hows about Paladin vs Solaris?

So you'll gladly fight my robot 3 times, each time being a foregone conclusion (powerful flipper vs HS with no good srimech or wedge), but as soon as I bring up the idea of not fighting something that isn't totally outclassed you refuse it immediately. C'mon man.

At least I can use it for my challenge with TheRoboteer.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 02, 2017, 07:26:37 AM
So you'll gladly fight my robot 3 times, each time being a foregone conclusion (powerful flipper vs HS with no good srimech or wedge), but as soon as I bring up the idea of not fighting something that isn't totally outclassed you refuse it immediately. C'mon man.

Yes, that is how tournaments work.  You enter one robot and don't get to change it out based on what other people entered.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Philippa on March 02, 2017, 07:29:48 AM
That has to be your weakest argument ever.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on March 02, 2017, 09:41:38 AM
So you'll gladly fight my robot 3 times, each time being a foregone conclusion (powerful flipper vs HS with no good srimech or wedge), but as soon as I bring up the idea of not fighting something that isn't totally outclassed you refuse it immediately. C'mon man.

Yes, that is how tournaments work.  You enter one robot and don't get to change it out based on what other people entered.

Missed the point. I challenged him to fight a robot that would give a challenge instead of repeatedly fighting a robot he totally countered and acting like he was king of GTM for doing so, and he immediately refused it. So calling him out on fighting the same bot again and again because he countered it is unfair, and then fighting it with the bot that I would have used, which has now been showcased, that would not have countered his, but would give it a half decent fight.

That has to be your weakest argument ever.

Let's put this in different terms, if you had seen Grindr lose to CS twice after being pinned on the wall and flail raped into submission, both in the main tournament and in the team rumble, and then Jamie said in a snarky fashion that he would fight Grindr again, despite it being a forgone conclusion, and then you had offered to fight it with a robot that was slightly more tryhard or powerful to match the flail rammer, and he had outright refused it, that would be fine?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on March 02, 2017, 09:43:50 AM
One more goddamn post about this fight and we're going to start handing out reprimand. We've been letting this coast because it has looked like it might have calmed down multiple times, but someone has to keep bringing it back up.

All posts in this thread from this point forward are to be about any remaining matches to be posted.


looks like dad is gonna be getting the banhammer out
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 090901 on March 02, 2017, 09:13:02 PM
Time to bring back havok DQ rules then?  :dumb)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 02, 2017, 09:53:11 PM
Time to bring back havok DQ rules then?  :dumb)
I'll do so during the grudge matches. Unless mod says no.
Definitely during future tournaments, though.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on March 03, 2017, 03:08:36 AM
One more goddamn post about this fight and we're going to start handing out reprimand. We've been letting this coast because it has looked like it might have calmed down multiple times, but someone has to keep bringing it back up.

All posts in this thread from this point forward are to be about any remaining matches to be posted.


looks like dad is gonna be getting the banhammer out

Actually, no. I posted about your refusal to fight a more fair fight for once, and not the Paladin match. And I personally checked in with him on the first post that I said to ensure it wouldn't be flaming, and hence the second post should also be fine, if edging towards flaming.

Time to bring back havok DQ rules then?  :dumb)
I'll do so during the grudge matches. Unless mod says no.
Definitely during future tournaments, though.

Out of interest, did Paladin havok much outside of the rumble or no?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 03, 2017, 12:32:53 PM
Time to bring back havok DQ rules then?  :dumb)
I'll do so during the grudge matches. Unless mod says no.
Definitely during future tournaments, though.

Out of interest, did Paladin havok much outside of the rumble or no?
Crocodile smile vs paladin was the only fight I managed to record in one try when it came to paladin.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 04, 2017, 12:31:36 PM
I'll begin recording the grudge matches now.
TGM requested someone fight against him and had no on answer, so unless someone says otherwise, he'll be fighting me.  :evilsmile:

If your grudge isn't in the list, please let me know.

Executioner vs Fighter MK II (Bacon)
Grindr vs Killshot (Kurt)
MitP vs Paladin (Enigma)
Solaris vs Fighter MK II (Neon)
B.B.S. vs Grinder (jdg37)
SQL vs killshot vs dragoon evo vs hammerhead (Demon)
Solaris vs Paladin (Bajur)
Challenge vs Solaris vs Paladin (Guldenflame)
Jungle Fever vs Crocodile smile vs MitP(F1Krazy)
Flipster vs (TGM)
Crocodile smile vs Killshot (Jamied)
Grinder vs Fighter Mk II (Avalanche)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Jammy Dodger on March 04, 2017, 12:38:12 PM
is it to late to request a grudge match? if not then Crocodile Smile VS Killshot
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on March 04, 2017, 12:46:37 PM
is it to late to request a grudge match? if not then Crocodile Smile VS Killshot

et tu brutus?
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on March 04, 2017, 01:38:22 PM
If Jamie's grudge is allowed, Grindr vs Fighter too, please.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 04, 2017, 02:20:55 PM
Matches are all recorded, so as of now I'm no longer taking requests.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 05, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
I apologize ahead of time for poor video quality.  The video spent 18 hours (I wish I was exaggerating) uploading, just to have my computer crash and have me start all over again.
So I edited the video so it would upload faster.  The small screen, was one of the side effects.

https://youtu.be/sRfLp3CSLw0

And with this, we're moving on to awards.

Best robot:
Coolest robot:
Weakest robot:
Blandest robot:
Better captain:
Luckiest robot:
Unluckiest robot:
MVB:
Best match:
Bot that deserves an award but couldn't get one:

Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on March 05, 2017, 07:42:44 PM


I have to admit, this was a good tournament. I would enter again.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on March 05, 2017, 08:03:17 PM


I have to admit, this was a good tournament. I would enter again.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Baconus_Yum on March 05, 2017, 08:08:07 PM


I have to admit, this was a good tournament. I would enter again.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on March 05, 2017, 08:09:25 PM
Will update later when I have more time, but weakest is definitely my bot, BBS.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on March 05, 2017, 08:12:10 PM


I have to admit, this was a good tournament. I would enter again.

On the topic of the havoks, I never had trouble with havoks when I was testing Paladin, but I didn't test it extensively. Sorry for any pain caused @Guldenflame.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 05, 2017, 08:15:58 PM
On the topic of the havoks, I never had trouble with havoks when I was testing Paladin, but I didn't test it extensively. Sorry for any pain caused @Guldenflame.
No prob. Your bot was quite tame in 1v1 battles, but rumbles hurt.
A specific plate on the back always seemed to be the case.


Oh yeah, and Deadline for the awards is the 11th.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Shield on March 05, 2017, 08:41:59 PM
Best robot: Paladin
Coolest robot: Jungle Fever
Weakest robot: Killshot obvs
Blandest robot: Executioner
Better captain: Kill343gs 090901
Luckiest robot: MitP
Unluckiest robot: Jungle Fever
MVB: Paladin
Best match: Paladin clean sweeping team Dark (Team rumble)
Bot that deserves an award but couldn't get one: Mecha Hitler 2.1
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: NeonCalypso on March 06, 2017, 02:50:52 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: F1Krazy on March 06, 2017, 07:06:48 AM

Best robot: Paladin
Coolest robot: BBS
Weakest robot: Killshot
Blandest robot: Toss-up between Killshot and Hammerhead
Better captain: 09
Luckiest robot: Dunno
Unluckiest robot: Jungle Fever
MVB: Paladin
Best match: Dunno
Bot that deserves an award but couldn't get one: Crocodile Smile
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on March 06, 2017, 09:50:04 AM
Here's my updated vote

Best robot: Solaris simple OP design
Coolest robot: jungle party
Weakest robot: BBS (cool if I vote my own for this right?)
Blandest robot: hammerhead
Better captain: Rob
Luckiest robot: Paladin
Unluckiest robot: Grindr
MVB: MitP
Best match: Dragoon vs Hitler
Bot that deserves an award but couldn't get one: Challenger
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Badger on March 06, 2017, 10:49:56 AM
Luckiest robot: Paladin
MVB: MitP
lul the salt
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Enigm@ on March 06, 2017, 10:53:01 AM
Luckiest robot: Paladin
MVB: MitP
lul the salt
are you flustered by this conclusion :smug:
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 06, 2017, 11:03:18 AM
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: doot on March 06, 2017, 11:03:55 AM
Best robot: Paladin
Coolest robot: Jungle Fever
Weakest robot: AQL
Blandest robot: Solaris
Better captain: Avalanche  :dumb)
Luckiest robot: i dunno
Unluckiest robot: Grindr
MVB: Paladin
Best match: Dragoon vs Hitler
Bot that deserves an award but couldn't get one: Dragoon Evo
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: jdg37 on March 06, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
Luckiest robot: Paladin
MVB: MitP
lul the salt
No salt just pepper. Didn't give too much effort, such as my Rob vote for best captain. Paladin was the best matchup for Dark so it swept easily. My bot just sucked all around.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on March 06, 2017, 11:43:38 AM
Best robot: Paladin
Better captain: Avalanche  :dumb)

wow the betrayal. Thought you had my back demon. This means war! (DSL IRL HW challenge.)
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Meganerdbomb on March 07, 2017, 07:45:01 AM
Best robot: MechaHitler
Coolest robot: MechaHitler
Weakest robot: MechaHitler
Blandest robot: Paladin (lol)
Better captain: LRA2
Luckiest robot: MechaHitler (beat Paladin lol)
Unluckiest robot: Paladin (Lost to Mecha Hitler )
MVB: Paladin obviously
Best match: Dragoon vs MechaHitler
Bot that deserves an award but couldn't get one: Crocodile Smile
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 11, 2017, 04:13:39 AM
Just a few hours left on this thing.
Might wanna fill in you guy's idks.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: playzooki on March 11, 2017, 04:23:17 PM
Best robot: Mecha Hitler
Coolest robot: Mecha Hitler
Weakest robot: fighter mk II
Blandest robot: fighter mk II
Better captain: 090901
Luckiest robot: fighter mk II
Unluckiest robot: Mecha Hitler
MVB: Mecha Hitler
Best match: fighter mk II losing
Bot that deserves an award but couldn't get one: Paladin
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Avalanche on March 11, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
Best Robot: Jungle Party. Looks cool, has a slight exocage around it with green extenders, cool weapon, came 2nd in two goddamn rumbles. An excellent robot.
Coolest Robot: Paladin. I don't think it's IRL with the 3 bursts still, but I will gladly follow this meta if it is accepted, and I cannot deny it looked badass.
Weakest Robot: Big Black Saw. This is why extenderbots look cool but when they fight an non-extenderbot of equal strength they are inferior. If you are trying to mix efficiency and IRL and go for a tournament win, I don't think extender bots are the way to go.
Blandest Robot: Executioner. A remarkable improvement for Baconus, but it's just too bland. Dishonourable mention: Challenge.
Better Captain: Avalanche.
Luckiest Robot: Paladin. Had Jungle Party not been eliminated immediately through sh**ty luck, he wouldn't have faced literally no potential counters.
Unluckiest Robot: Literally everyone on Team Light, because we all had no wedges to counter paladin with properly, and those who did got taken out before they fought him.
MVB: Crocodile Smile. Took out 1 of the 3 major enemies, and fought better than any other robot against Paladin in the main competition.
Best Match: Fighter Mk. II vs Solaris. That was close. VERY close.
Bot that deserves an award but couldn't get one: Monster in the Parasol. I expected to be a sh** robot that would be a throwaway. It gave all opponents a solid battle and almost, almost won against Solaris.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: Gulden on March 11, 2017, 07:56:34 PM
Results time:

And with that, Light vs Dark is over.  This was very fun and I hope I get to host the sequal soon. (I want to do one other tournament first though)
Thank you every who joined and see you next tournament.
I'll be PMing one of the mods soon.
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: F1Krazy on March 11, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
woo two awards

This was a great tourney, nice job Gulden! Looking forward to LvD2: Electric Boogaloo (and whatever your other tournament is).
Title: Re: Light vs Dark - SBVA
Post by: 09090901 on March 11, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
Congratulations on a successful tournament.