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Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea.
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2009, 09:10:16 AM
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/kingofkCustom.png)

As you may have heard me mention before about making a jousting tournament for those that don’t know

Definition of Jousting: Jousting is a medieval sport played by two armoured knights mounted on horses, mounted knights would charge at their enemies with weapons to try to kill or disable them.

Basically that with robots but yes there are more rules...

General Rules


Advanced Rules


Format


all those eliminated from the tournament before the semi finals will go into a consolation bracket were they will fight it out for 1 prize selection

Prizes

the winner will gain a choice of 2 prize's, the runner up and consolation bracket winners will gain 1 prize of there choice.

Liberator

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/Liberator.png)

Jousting Arena Test Garage

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/screenshot_239.png)

Skinned Jousting Targets Collection

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/jousttargets.png)

Diamond Spikes

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/diamondspikes.png)

Extra Info

You may be wondering what is a Jousting Target ? it is a custom component I made that has only 1 HP and can be downloaded Here (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/Joust Target.rar) dont worry about attaching these to your entry's how ever as I will do that to all entry's

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/kingofktarget.png)

AI’ing? I have worked out a way to AI the entrees so you don’t have to worry about AI’ing your entry

Arena? Many of you may have seen it before off RFSHQ ? (it can be found here https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2156) I really want to stress this part I do not and wont take any credit for the arena, all credit goes to Lu-Tze for this awesome piece of work and I sure hope its ok that I host a tournament with this great arena :D

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/kingofkarena.png)

List of Entry's (Green if AI'd into the game)

1. somestrangeguy
2. Viper89
3. Badnik96
4. Doomkiller
5. Scrap Daddy
6. Sonny_Resetti
7. life robot arena2
8. nicsan2009
9. Jack Daniels
10. JoeBlo
11. Pwnator
12. MrRoboto75
13. Craaig
14. trumpetguy
15. Naryar
16. <>


Reserve:

1. Failious The Unclaimed (house bot)
2. Backwards Bob (house bot)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: cephalopod on August 28, 2009, 09:25:22 AM
I like this idea, you gotta think about your robot in a much more serious way than just making something to smash everything else up.

As for the weapons, when you say nothing can go over the wall, that doesn't include the weapons on the burst which go over the wall when fired, right?

But yes, I really like this idea and would like to take part :D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2009, 09:36:18 AM
sorry I wasnt too clear, weapons cant go over the wall unless the burst fire moves them over the wall (so you basically cant make static weapons or say spinning discs that hand over the wall

also funny thing Craaig you were the first to comment in my CC2 plans thread too :P
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Reier on August 28, 2009, 09:38:27 AM
Awesome idea. I'm in.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 28, 2009, 09:38:59 AM
Hmmm, nice idea, but I think you are going to need a new Jousting AI as any other AI will just circle around the wall.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2009, 09:44:13 AM
with a lot of testing I can do it with simply omni.py :-D I wire all the motors to forward on the "spin" input so it will take off as soon as the count goes down and the turning speed and turning are set to really small values so the robot will stay close to the wall but will continue heading forward (one of the slower test bots had 0.1 for turn speed :P)

it worked rather well in testing so im pretty confident
Title: cool
Post by: Viper89 on August 28, 2009, 11:43:11 AM
I like this tourney alot sweet idea. I'm in:evil:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: infiniteinertia on August 28, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
even though this is really weird, i am in
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: MrRoboto75 on August 28, 2009, 11:50:38 AM
Sign me up.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: kill343gs on August 28, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
I'm in for this one too. I've wanted to do something a little different for a while now.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Badnik96 on August 28, 2009, 12:11:48 PM
Ill do it.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: russian roulette on August 28, 2009, 12:53:37 PM
Ill join this.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: R1885 on August 28, 2009, 01:33:59 PM
I join.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: trumpetguy on August 28, 2009, 01:36:58 PM
I'm in
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on August 28, 2009, 01:43:57 PM
Can we use burst pistons?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Hydro on August 28, 2009, 02:07:12 PM
I like the idea, but entry unlikely.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 28, 2009, 03:18:22 PM
Why do we put our weapons on bursts?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: man manu on August 28, 2009, 03:20:49 PM
To go over the wall to hit the other bot, LA2.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: 40757 on August 28, 2009, 03:26:49 PM
Sign me up.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 28, 2009, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: man manu;62292
To go over the wall to hit the other bot, LRA2.

 
What wall?
Best download it.
EDIT:I CAN'T DOWNLOAD IT! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: WhamettNuht on August 28, 2009, 03:59:17 PM
Hmm, i'll enter :D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 28, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
I would be interested in joining this... but i have a few questions.

-What if you put the target on the bot exposed but in a place that can't be hit by the opposing bot? like what if you attached it horizontally on the back of the bot like a tail? it would be too low to reach i think.

-So, the bot cannot have any part built on it that would always stretch over the wall. But all weapons can be put on burst motors so that they return back to the bot when done? How is this rule enforced?  If a bots weapon extends to the other side of the wall but does not contract, is that a DQ?  What if a bot is hit really hard and somehow flips over to the other side of the wall... is that a DQ as well?  I am thinking that balance might be really tricky with this.  If you make a bot that has a huge weapon to swing over, it might cause it to be a tad unpredictable and misbalanced.

-Would it be possible for you to make two bots and record an example match for us to watch?  That would be cool.

Great idea! I think it needs some clarification and exactness to the building rules, but it could be a blast to participate in!
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Condor33 on August 28, 2009, 06:00:16 PM
I definitely want to join, although I'd like a demo video of how this would work.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on August 28, 2009, 07:07:11 PM
I'm in this!
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2009, 08:17:17 PM
Quote from: Jack Daniels;62317
I would be interested in joining this... but i have a few questions.

-What if you put the target on the bot exposed but in a place that can't be hit by the opposing bot? like what if you attached it horizontally on the back of the bot like a tail? it would be too low to reach i think.

it has to be a hit able place but like I said before im not expecting every bot to be able to hit it.. dont forget with 1 HP you can loose it if it hits the ground hard enough, there will be some lead way with it but If I think your going out of your way to hide it then I cant except your entry, sorry its really hard to explain its a concept Click came up with when I brought up the idea, take a look at the bot in the start of this thread that target is exposed but hard to get due to the weapon bursting in front of it  

-So, the bot cannot have any part built on it that would always stretch over the wall. But all weapons can be put on burst motors so that they return back to the bot when done? How is this rule enforced?  If a bots weapon extends to the other side of the wall but does not contract, is that a DQ?  What if a bot is hit really hard and somehow flips over to the other side of the wall... is that a DQ as well?  I am thinking that balance might be really tricky with this.  If you make a bot that has a huge weapon to swing over, it might cause it to be a tad unpredictable and misbalanced.

no DQs for falling over walls etc, the only thing is the only way you are allowed to have something over the wall is if a burst fired it over there, so basically I will put on mads big smart zones so the robot fires the bursts right into the path of the other robot, the rule is basically stopping any static weaponry or say half a spinner that stretches over the wall

-Would it be possible for you to make two bots and record an example match for us to watch?  That would be cool.

I can do that to show everyone how the concept works :-D

Great idea! I think it needs some clarification and exactness to the building rules, but it could be a blast to participate in!


hope that answers everything
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Condor33 on August 28, 2009, 08:22:31 PM
So, what say I stack 5 120CM pistons on the top of each other, to hit the other guy before he ever gets close. Is this illegal?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2009, 08:26:11 PM
I kind of wanted bursts to bring weapons into play as its kind of like a knight moving his lance across the wall to be hit, but I guess I can allow pistons too
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Doomkiller on August 28, 2009, 08:29:21 PM
Wow, this is defietly an interseting idea.

If it goes ahead, I shall join for sure
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2009, 08:32:08 PM
good to hear that, I think I will ditch the little name gimmick idea though as I was this tournament to stay well.... I guess as Inf put it normal ?  I think getting too stuck into a theme will make it look too tacky :-D

Edit: we have hit 16 entry's (on the first post) if anyone doesn't want there name on there or does (and I haven't added you yet) please let me know, as I said I am prepared to go to 32
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Scrap Daddy on August 28, 2009, 08:36:13 PM
Im in.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: MrRoboto75 on August 28, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
I like the name gimmick.  I'm interested in what the other contestants come up with.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Madiaba on August 28, 2009, 09:18:15 PM
Thought: Joe, what if you, the guy running the tourney, placed a plate
(1) in the middile of the bot,
(2) at a certain height just above the bot,
(3) facing forward,
that the other bot is to knock off to win. They are ALL in the same spot on every bot. Then whatever is done beyond this, is up to the builder to design. But it is a 'common' target for all.
I'll help you place them if you want..
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on August 28, 2009, 09:25:56 PM
I'm a bit confused.

Joe, a lance in RA2 would be a piston bot like Eye Poker, do we have to make a piston bot or whatever we want?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on August 28, 2009, 09:48:27 PM
I'd love to participate in something like this.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: R1885 on August 28, 2009, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: TriTon;62386
Joe, a lance in RA2 would be a piston bot like Eye Poker, do we have to make a piston bot or whatever we want?


First, Eye Poker is a push bot, not a piston bot, your thinking of Eye Stabber.
Second, no. The rules clearly state the bot's weapon must be on burst motors.
Read the rules next time.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on August 28, 2009, 11:12:12 PM
I'd like to enter
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2009, 11:35:12 PM
Quote from: Madiaba;62382
Thought: Joe, what if you, the guy running the tourney, placed a plate
(1) in the middile of the bot,
(2) at a certain height just above the bot,
(3) facing forward,
that the other bot is to knock off to win. They are ALL in the same spot on every bot. Then whatever is done beyond this, is up to the builder to design. But it is a 'common' target for all.
I'll help you place them if you want..


that sounds like a good idea if I place the targets on the bots the only thing is if one bot has that place covered.. I wouldn't be able to attach it then ? unless you had something else/ method in mind?

I understand you are all confused with the burst weapons rule but basically if you read it carfully...

Quote from: JoeBlo;62228

  • No part of a robot may exceed and/or stretch over the wall of the jousting arena
  • All weaponry must be brought into play via burst motors (basically the same concept as the above rule)


basically you can build any robot you want but nothing can be placed over the wall EXCEPT if a burst fires it over the wall and into the path of the other robot
Title: @JB
Post by: Viper89 on August 28, 2009, 11:48:09 PM
I understand it fine it's simple;), I don't get why people are having a hard time understanding it:?. I got a pretty cool idea for this tourney. Also I didn't think having Medievil names would be tacky. My bot going to have one:smiley:. Also for the targets just make it so that you can put it anywhere on top of the bot but not on the sides and you can't cover it unless your weapon is like you already said. I don't like the idea at all of having a set place for the targets Like MAD was saying "no offense":D.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Trovaner on August 28, 2009, 11:54:31 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;62416
if I place the targets on the bots the only thing is if one bot has that place covered.. I wouldn't be able to attach it then ? unless you had something else/ method in mind?
I think Mad was thinking you could use his custom smartzones as a base (instead of a baseplate anchor) because they are setup so that you can attach anything to them and the smartzones themselves can go through any components that might get in the way.

BTW, interesting tournament idea... Hope it turns out well.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 28, 2009, 11:57:50 PM
yeah small smart zones would work out well.. yeah I think I will attach the targets in a common place for all robots so they are about the same for everyone (that does mean I just need everyone's entry's to weigh no more then 799.7 KG
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on August 29, 2009, 12:47:43 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;62420
yeah small smart zones would work out well.. yeah I think I will attach the targets in a common place for all robots so they are about the same for everyone (that does mean I just need everyone's entry's to weigh no more then 799.7 KG


:frown:, what if somebody has an weapon or etc.... in the common place where the target supposed to go, are we going to have to redo are bots?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 01:01:39 AM
I dont think it is possible to be exact but Im sure I can make a compromise... I will basically wait for all entry's before i decide were it will go
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 01:06:13 AM
here is an example of how jousting will work (including explanation of the burst rule)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lia35UUA8Vo
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 29, 2009, 02:08:40 AM
I'll give this a go.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Pwnator on August 29, 2009, 04:47:16 AM
Hmmm... include me for now. I might recycle one of my old bots for this one. :D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 04:56:04 AM
I just finished a website for this and... well for everything, its related so I will post it here.

basically rather then making another website I decided to combine everything into one site. to save money I just sub domained my other website I pay money for :P so yeah It will have CC, KOK, Monster Mods and anything else RA2 from me :-D enjoy!

http://RA2.fastmotionphotos.com

note: the url currently will mask with robotarenacubes.t83.net because it will take up to 72 hours to process the new domain as the mask
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 29, 2009, 05:16:40 AM
Sent my entry.A few notes at the bottom.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 05:33:52 AM
LRA2 please review your entry for any cheat parts, etc as I am unable to open it in either Stock or DSL (if you used sages skin parts that's ok as I am still getting those)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 29, 2009, 05:44:44 AM
You need to extract it. Like you did for coid i suppose.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on August 29, 2009, 07:19:20 AM
Entry sent, did you get it?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 29, 2009, 07:41:06 AM
*clarifies entry*
Im going to go make my entry soon.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Madiaba on August 29, 2009, 07:47:32 AM
Thanks, Trov. Yea, that's the 'how' of the 'what'. I left the APs on the SZs 'universal' for some custom apps (like this) of attaching components anywhere needed even away from the bot. Didn't let this fact be known because of potential abuse, though a few already discovered it, and now it's public.
BFE would work fine here too, though more involved.
 
Joe,
1. I just thought if the plates were all located in the same spot on the bot, then all would be equal, and everyone would know where their weapons need to aim toward.
2. It really doesn't matter to the game if the bots are a tad over 800kg, due to a SZ (or anything else for that matter).
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 29, 2009, 08:05:42 AM
Why am i black? I sent it right?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 29, 2009, 09:12:41 AM
LRA2, you are marked black because your entry crashes his game. He knows how winrar works, so that is not the problem, its the bot.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 09:33:06 AM
actually I am also waiting for a "full" bracket right now we are on par for a 32 bracket

yes Sonny_Resetti got yours and its all good :), LRA2 I know how to extract and it is the bot.. I might take a look at the bot file and see whats wrong

Edit: it looks all ok ?? LRA2 you didn't play around or touch anything in the bot file did you? (like open it in notepad and try to change something?) maybe export your bot again and resend it as file corruption appears to be the only answer to the problem??
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 29, 2009, 09:44:00 AM
Im having trouble with 400kgs of extra weight and a supreme spinnign problem, no matter how I wired the motors, the bot will only spin left and even with the Left Right controls, it wont turn right... Rebuilding...
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: GameKing3 on August 29, 2009, 11:03:08 AM
Hey can i get in on this?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 29, 2009, 02:33:34 PM
WHA!?
I NEVER TOUCHED THE DAMMED FILE!
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 29, 2009, 02:36:25 PM
Then you used some parts that Joeblo does not have, IE custom downloaded parts or DSL parts? This is Stock if you missed that.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 29, 2009, 02:46:32 PM
Two things.
1.The only custom component is the target which i put on.
2.It was a mw so its now a HW.
SENDING...
Title: @JB
Post by: Viper89 on August 29, 2009, 02:51:33 PM
I was wondering if I sent you my bot,  if you can Ai it and then send my bot back along with the bot you used in the video so I can do trials runs:-D. I've just finish my bot and I think it's going to give alot of peoples problems in this tourney:evil::evil::evil:. Also I didn't put the target it on it yet because of the new change of rules for it :frown:. But yeah just let me know if it's alright with you if you can do this for me:smiley:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 29, 2009, 02:56:02 PM
JoeBlo,RESEND MADE.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on August 29, 2009, 05:23:17 PM
Jousting?

I'm on it!
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: GameKing3 on August 29, 2009, 05:24:29 PM
Yea i really like this tournament idea and i want in on it.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Badnik96 on August 29, 2009, 06:25:47 PM
I SENT MY BOT
Hope you dont have any problems, JoeBlo. All you gotta do is SZ and AI it.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 09:52:31 PM
Quote from: Viper89;62620
I was wondering if I sent you my bot,  if you can Ai it and then send my bot back along with the bot you used in the video so I can do trials runs:-D.


sure no problem I will send it back out with the target, bindings, etc once I get all entry's in and AI'd
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on August 29, 2009, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;62794
sure no problem I will send it back out with the target, bindings, etc once I get all entry's in and AI'd


Thx:approve:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 09:56:18 PM
ok if I have missed anyone's name please let me know :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 10:12:34 PM
all those that sent me bots.. they all work fine except for one... LRA2 do you have any custom skin packs, armour, etc on your game ?

may I suggest a clean copy of RA2 and a new robot ? your robot doesnt look like a proper joust bot anyway ?? (by the looks it has no way of getting weapons over the wall ??)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: The Ounce on August 29, 2009, 11:07:18 PM
This sounds pretty interesting.  I would love to join, ... if I were a competent stock builder :-(.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 29, 2009, 11:22:06 PM
the great thing about it is you build robots Like you have never built before :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 30, 2009, 03:46:10 AM
WHAT!?IF THIS CONTINUES THEN I WILL PULL OUT.
THE ONLY THING I ADDED WAS FB'S CHEAT CODES.
And the target.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Pwnator on August 30, 2009, 03:54:58 AM
Cheat codes. Heh. XD
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 30, 2009, 04:04:39 AM
try FB's cheat codes addition and nothing may I suggest you read what I said before

Quote from: JoeBlo;62807
a clean copy of Stock RA2 and a new robot ? your robot doesnt look like a proper joust bot anyway ?? (by the looks it has no way of getting weapons over the wall ??)


or you can pull out what ever you want its really up to you
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 30, 2009, 04:37:56 AM
JoeBlo,I think that somebody will have to upload my entry....
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 30, 2009, 04:42:50 AM
???

the problem lies possibly with something modded in your RA2, any skin packs, armour packs, etc added to your game ?

I suggest you start from the basics with a clean copy of Stock RA2
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 30, 2009, 05:28:25 AM
Say, is it a requirement to have the weapons on a burts motor? Wouldnt pistons do the trick too?

And can I put my target on a burst motor so that it moves away from the opponent when they are close? xD
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 30, 2009, 05:56:21 AM
im now doing all the target placements on the robots so its all fair between the robots, I haven't updated the first post but yes pistons are fine as long as they follow all the other rules set out
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 30, 2009, 06:09:25 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;62873
???

the problem lies possibly with something modded in your RA2, any skin packs, armour packs, etc added to your game ?

I suggest you start from the basics with a clean copy of Stock RA2


NO SKIN PACKS OR ANY THING EXECPT THE FB CHEAT CODE PACK WAS IN MY STOCK.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 30, 2009, 06:19:03 AM
all the caps lock in the world wonk make your bot work, how about you try building another robot as yours inst a jousting robot it is a poker it isn't going to do anything against the other robots
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Madiaba on August 30, 2009, 08:13:07 AM
LRA2, if you send me your bot file, I'll see if I can find why it doesn't work...
Else, build another.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on August 30, 2009, 09:41:33 AM
This could be bad, none of my RA2 versions start up. Not even the 100% clean version...
Title: @JB
Post by: Viper89 on August 30, 2009, 10:09:31 AM
Is this tournment going to have a Loser Bracket to?

@ LRA2 you obviously didn't build to the requirments so build another bot or drop out.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on August 30, 2009, 10:34:18 AM
Mad@Make sure you have the target.
Joe@I think you can make a py that spins the wheel away from the opponent so the pistons hit the opponent.
Title: WOW
Post by: Viper89 on August 30, 2009, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: life robot arena2;62953
Mad@Make sure you have the target.
Joe@I think you can make a py that spins the wheel away from the opponent so the pistons hit the opponent.


Obviously you are handicape and can't read so I put it in bright colors:all the caps lock in the world wonk make your bot work, how about you try building another robot as yours inst a jousting robot it is a poker it isn't going to do anything against the other robots__________________

Stop wasting his time and just build another Freakin bot:angry:. it's not that hard I built mine in an hour and it meets all the requirments.Are you really going to make him go out his way to make a Py file because you "FAIL" to follow the instructions to build a Jousting bot. If you are talking about a different bot then I apologize but if you are still talking about the same bot then seriously "Make A New Bot that fits the instructions".
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on August 31, 2009, 03:30:56 AM
Quote from: life robot arena2;62953
Joe@I think you can make a py that spins the wheel away from the opponent so the pistons hit the opponent.


who do you think I am .. Madiaba or something XD (just a joke so dont take offense)

all entry's are going to follow a very similar AI system as I am trying to eliminate as many variables as possible so this tournament comes down to bots, I cant actually see your idea being very effective given how fast the other bots will be traveling in comparison, you best bet is to take some time and build another, I haven't even set a due date for bots yet  

in other news 9 places are still open for anyone who wants to join (I think a few people were still deciding on it) so if you name isnt on the first post and you would like it to be then let me know :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Madiaba on August 31, 2009, 09:58:43 AM
Joe, can you get on MSN or Yahoo. I have LRA2's bot up and going...
LRA2 says he doesn't have an IM.
Try me later, after work--(about 6 hours from this post).
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Reier on August 31, 2009, 10:03:52 AM
Lra2 has hamachi..
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Urjak on August 31, 2009, 10:09:08 AM
Joeblo, I will enter, assuming you aren't full already.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 03, 2009, 06:11:16 AM
ok LRA2 mad solved your bots problem (not sure if he told you or not) but yeah.. are your sure you still dont want to use something else ? as I said before all robots are going to be AI'd very similar. Let me know

also 24 entrants still 8 places if anyone wants to join ??? (hopefully a few more and I can throw in 1 or 2 "house" robots to make numbers) I will leave it with a bit more time given a have a lot of stuff I have to catch up with
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 03, 2009, 07:07:06 AM
Sooo... all of the bots must be side hammers, without hybrid possibility ?

And about fights... it's just one collision about bots, and the fight is over (in less than 5 seconds) (Technically only the horseback part of a real joust), fight repeated 3 times ?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 03, 2009, 07:23:00 AM
I made a points based system for a 3 round match and there is no limit to your bot type the only thing is that a burst must be what brings your choice weapon into the path of the other robot (or as I explained before over the wall)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 03, 2009, 06:54:20 PM
I sent a new version of my bot let me know if you got it okay and if it's regulation for the tourney:smiley:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: LiNcK on September 03, 2009, 07:17:12 PM
Vlad Spikes FTW!! ;D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 03, 2009, 08:17:07 PM
Quote from: LiNcK;63903
Vlad Spikes FTW!! ;D


I thought Vlad spikes were DSL???
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 04, 2009, 01:05:54 AM
Quote from: LiNcK;63903
Vlad Spikes FTW!! ;D

I can sense fail.

Quote from: Viper89;63910
I thought Vlad spikes were DSL???

And that gentlemen, was one of the possible correct answers
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 04, 2009, 01:16:02 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;62228
General Rules

  • Stock HW,



rule number one :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 06, 2009, 05:07:38 AM
currently sitting on 24 which is enough to make a bracket out of

JD did say he would think about joining this if he saw a video (which has been posted) but I haven't heard anything and 25 would be a difficult number, so here is what will happen

entry's will now close at 24

if JD or anyone else wants to join I will need at least another 5 people before expanding to 32 and I need to be notified before 12:00 Noon Wednesday (GMT+8)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 06, 2009, 10:25:51 AM
^^^^^ sounds good, is there a Bot deadline yet?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 07, 2009, 04:08:02 AM
ok I will go for the 12:00 noon Wednesday 16th (GMT+8) is the deadline for all entry's to find there way to me.

I will now start coloring the names on the first post
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Jack Daniels on September 07, 2009, 12:27:25 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;64431

if JD or anyone else wants to join I will need at least another 5 people before expanding to 32 and I need to be notified before 12:00 Noon Wednesday (GMT+8)


Sounds cool, If we get 5 more entries I am in.  Or i can be the first reserve of the tourney if anyone drops out.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 08, 2009, 02:53:49 AM
I can possibly push that date further but I need 5 more people and I will expand to 32 (I can always add in a couple "house" jousting bots)

actually I just had a thought....I may as well join too so 4 more people at least for a 32 expansion with 6 places in total available
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 08, 2009, 10:40:29 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;64907
I can possibly push that date further but I need 5 more people and I will expand to 32 (I can always add in a couple "house" jousting bots)

actually I just had a thought....I may as well join too so 4 more people at least for a 32 expansion with 6 places in total available


Ya you might as well join:smiley:. If you and jack join and nobody else does then you will only have to make 3 house jousting bots.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: 090901 on September 08, 2009, 08:19:32 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;64907
I can possibly push that date further but I need 5 more people and I will expand to 32 (I can always add in a couple "house" jousting bots)

actually I just had a thought....I may as well join too so 4 more people at least for a 32 expansion with 6 places in total available


Make that 3 people now because I need something to keep me busy.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 08, 2009, 08:23:32 PM
awesome, added you to the list on post 1
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 10, 2009, 09:20:10 AM
anyone else up for jousting ? still 5 openings
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 11, 2009, 05:01:38 AM
ok so this is a possable idea


sound good ? Im just thinking as it looks like I will be pushing it for 32
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 11, 2009, 10:51:23 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;65312
ok so this is a possable idea

  • shave the bracket down to 28 (so one more space open or can be filled by a "house" jousting bot)
  • so after round 1 there will be 14 remaining,
  • round 2 there will 7 remaining
  • and out of the 7 losers I take the robot that scored the highest amount of points in round 2 and return them to the bracket
  • giving 8 which can continue with a normal bracket


sound good ? Im just thinking as it looks like I will be pushing it for 32


I totally agree with this because this thread been up for awhile and I think most everybody has seen it. Also if you did this you will be able to start the tourney sooner. This is going to be a fun tourney I just know it:-D. You also could do a loser bracket to if you wanted;).
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 11, 2009, 10:57:17 AM
I might make one after the final 4 have been decided, that means a 24 bracket, it would be separate from the main bracket however (so no winner vs winner final) I plan of whipping up a few novelty prizes for the winners.

so deadline time send in bots you have until the 23rd of September to get your entries in (added another week because the bracket was only just decided)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 11, 2009, 11:03:11 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;65343
I might make one after the final 4 have been decided, that means a 24 bracket, it would be separate from the main bracket however (so no winner vs winner final) I plan of whipping up a few novelty prizes for the winners.

so deadline time send in bots you have until the 23rd of September to get your entries in (added another week because the bracket was only just decided)


I like the idea:smiley:. For the prizes you should have medeival type prices or something, For example I think a prize like The Excalibur sword would be cool:cool:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 11, 2009, 11:20:54 PM
I did think of swords and lances but its all really been done, I have a few things in mind but its a secret for now :P
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 12, 2009, 09:56:46 PM
this is the robot that will fill the last space, its not owned by anyone so I tried to make it as bad as possible so while it will fight It wont win

Failious The Unclaimed

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/failious.png)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 13, 2009, 12:57:04 AM
That bot might be too good for the Tourney;).
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 01:02:10 AM
2 70cm pole spikes arnt that good, dont forget pole spikes have normals so only the tips do damage
Title: lol
Post by: Viper89 on September 13, 2009, 01:12:12 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;65794
2 70cm pole spikes arnt that good, dont forget pole spikes have normals so only the tips do damage


I was Joking;)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 01:37:41 AM
you like your red text dont you :P Failious didnt stand much of a chance against Sonny_Resetti in testing.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 13, 2009, 03:10:50 AM
Nice skin.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Pwnator on September 13, 2009, 03:13:16 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask this:

What's the height of the wall (relative to the chassis height)? I wanted to put my weapon arc just above the wall. XD
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 03:16:23 AM
thanks Naryar,

prize for the grand champion and its a big one (literally)

The Liberator

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/Liberator.png)

its shown here in stock but it is a DSL weapon.... in fact (cross promotion) it was a possible Clash Cubes 3 prize I made. using the Beetle Brothers formula the damage potential is an enormous 1200 (excessive for stock but it was designed as a DSL weapon) it also has its own sound files :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 13, 2009, 03:19:14 AM
Oh man.By the way,did the house bot get kicked by my entry?Guess not.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 03:26:12 AM
your entry hasnt been AI'd yet, if you direct your eyes to post 1 only Resetti's has been AI'd

Pwn: your best bet is to download the arena from the RFS site (there is a link in post 1 of this topic) otherwise this is a bot I made with the lowest chassis possible in the bot lab so you can compare with the wall height

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/wallheight.png)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 13, 2009, 04:35:14 AM
THE DOWNLOAD LINK WAS BROKEN.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Pwnator on September 13, 2009, 04:44:40 AM
Please stop using caps. It's annoying for most of us, if not all. If you want people to stop bashing you, now is the time to start wising up.

Here's the link for those who can't download it:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/LTZ_joust_arena2.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/LTZ_joust_arena2.rar)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 05:11:51 AM
thanks pwn

so does everyone like the main prize up for grabs ? (there is a few minor ones coming)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Pwnator on September 13, 2009, 05:16:51 AM
No prob.

And the blade pwns. But 80kg is kinda light for a component that can only be attached to a motor. Maybe increase the weight to 100+ (maybe even 150+ if you're mad enough) to have more kinetic energy in it. :D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 05:33:08 AM
yeah might amp it up to 100kg, stand by for a minor prize :P
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 06:20:28 AM
this is one of the minor prizes that will be up for grabs as an option for various winners/ awards

some of you ask questions about the wall, etc how about a way to test jousting bots without having to start a match each time (I hope mad doesnt mind that I post this as I dont want to take anything away from his mod)

Jousting Arena Test Garage

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/screenshot_239.png)

as you can see the objects will all appear in the center of the arena and are all themed with King Of Karnage, as you can see from the image the creates are now testing targets :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 13, 2009, 06:59:05 AM
I just remembered, I never actually tested if my bot can reach over the wall. Can you tell me quickly so i can make the required changes?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 07:27:31 AM
its a little too low for the wall SSG so your welcome to change it and get an update in by the 23rd
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 13, 2009, 07:33:08 AM
Can my bot hit the top Crate?
EDIT:Shouldent that go to ALL compettiters?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 07:39:01 AM
its not compulsory to be able to hit it (they are for testing purposes if you win that practice arena) I havent tested yours but I still have the offer for you whether you wanted to change it to increase the effectiveness of it ?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 13, 2009, 07:50:17 AM
Meh.Why not.Yes i will change it.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 13, 2009, 09:45:29 AM
@ JB I like the prizes so far.:smiley: Do you know yet if my bot is okay with the arena wall and everything.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 13, 2009, 09:47:34 AM
haven't tried it yet but it looks ok, I did notice SSG's was a little low at the time he sent it
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 13, 2009, 09:50:54 AM
Yeahyeah, im going to fix it soon, im just currently pinned down by 4 active IM concos.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Jack Daniels on September 13, 2009, 10:13:56 AM
I really enjoyed building a bot for this tourney.  I am really curious to what other bots end up looking like... and if anyone will find a loophole in the rules that will make for an unusual bot. This kind of tournament is very fun to experience.

Anyone entering a crawler? hahah just kidding.

I really hope that people just enjoy this tournament and not freak out if their bot does not perform the way that they want it to.  There are a couple of builders that i forsee complaining about their bots performance when it comes down to the actual bouts. Relax and have fun ok?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Madiaba on September 13, 2009, 10:31:31 AM
Hope you're right, JD.
Joe, You can just lower the wall a bit too,.. if that makes it easier.
.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 13, 2009, 10:32:25 AM
Quote from: life robot arena2;65883
Meh.Why not.Yes i will change it.


Changed mind.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 13, 2009, 11:36:38 AM
Mine is most likely the fastest and most havok prone. Also underweight, I just didnt know what to do with an additional 160kgs, could have added more drive, but it already has more than enough.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on September 13, 2009, 04:04:57 PM
What happens if there's a tie after 3 rounds?  Like if all three jousts end with both or neither targets being broken?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2009, 03:25:36 AM
JD: thanks for the support, I am hoping to bypass all the seriousness and people can have fun propelling robots at each other at high rates of speed :P

Madiaba: I think I might stick to the current wall height given even low robots are able to trip over it right now

LRA2: so you are wanting to stick with your current entry ?

Sonny_Resetti: its a points system to eliminate ties

Quote from: JoeBlo;62228
Format

  • Each match will consist of 3 “Jousts” and the winner will be determined on a points based system
  • 3 points if you break your opponents Target off
  • 1 point each if no targets are knocked off
  • 0 points if your target is knocked off (unless you break your opponents off before yours was broken)
  • The player with the most points wins, in the event of a draw after the 3 “Jousts” the total in game points from each match will be added up and the highest total wins.


hope that covers everything :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2009, 03:31:09 AM
I sense this is going to be full of win...

I just hope people will be somewhat creative in building.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2009, 04:01:51 AM
my entry will be rather strange and Sonny_Resetti's was a design I didn't see coming (or ever thought of lol)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 14, 2009, 05:10:38 AM
another minor prize up for grabs, 5 jousting targets (1 you already have) they are just skins but put in a styles set up so they are nice and neat, should I make another King Of Karnage they will be usable (no difference to txt files just a different look)

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/jousttargets.png)

its hard to see from the images but the ghost one is semi transparent
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 14, 2009, 07:13:05 AM
My entry is as generic as it could be. I just dont know how to think outside the box like Click for example.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2009, 08:22:50 AM
Bah... Horizontal spinning weapon on a DDT? Trinity side hammer ? There are so many possibilities...
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Pwnator on September 14, 2009, 08:28:08 AM
^^^

NOOOooooooooooooooooo........

Aww man, gotta think harder this time. XD
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 14, 2009, 09:23:38 AM
You mean FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ?

For me, i am probably going to chain DDTs and try to come with something original and efficient.

Edit: And i agree with Viper's post 11 pages ago - medieval-themed names please.
Title: Dam
Post by: Viper89 on September 14, 2009, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: Naryar;66141
Bah... Horizontal spinning weapon on a DDT? Trinity side hammer ? There are so many possibilities...


I'm so simpleminded I didn't think of putting motors on the DDT:angry:. Well think my current weapon setup will do ok I hope:frown:.( I made it so it will be sort of like a wall so I can block other people weapons but still be able to score.) lol I had a Medievil name the first bot I sent, but then I changed it with the 2nd one  I sent because I thought no one else will do it o well:smiley:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 14, 2009, 02:00:32 PM
Cmon, better targets. Something more robotic-ky than medieval. These ARE machines...

EDIT: Can we have a demo video of how the fight works? It will help with bot designing.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Jack Daniels on September 14, 2009, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;66154

EDIT: Can we have a demo video of how the fight works? It will help with bot designing.


Demo vid is on PG 5.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: MrRoboto75 on September 14, 2009, 03:05:21 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;66116
my entry will be rather strange and Sonny_Resetti's was a design I didn't see coming (or ever thought of lol)


I thought mine was a bit... off.

However, its a bit sucky.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2009, 04:10:17 AM
Quote from: infiniteinertia;66154
Cmon, better targets. Something more robotic-ky than medieval. These ARE machines...


the target skins ? well there was a metal one ? I might add some more to the prize but right now I am working on the 3rd and final minor prize
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2009, 05:34:55 AM
the final prize a set of 2 weapons

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/diamondspikes.png)

I personally really like these, they do more damage then iron spikes but to excessive, they also have 1.5x the hitpoints.

I like these so much I have decided to offer all four prizes up for grabs, the winner gets a choice of 2 and the runner up, consolation bracket and awards winners gain 1 prize pick
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 15, 2009, 05:37:34 AM
k lets go naryyyyyyy

Diamond isn't blue, also it's "substance", and it's nearly 2 times lighter as iron.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 15, 2009, 06:11:32 AM
What if thats compressed diamonds?

Will these be aviable to use in the CC3? Or other tournaments you host?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 15, 2009, 06:19:29 AM
Joe i am sending you 2 of my possible designs for this, because i don't really get how will you put the jousting target and if my designs are legal.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2009, 06:21:28 AM
Naryar: I know, I know and I know :-D

they are 50% transparent and I liked the blue skin (besides its only a name, not like anything else is realistic in stock lol)

the spelling, they are old screenshots from another copy of RA2 (when the focus was on the GMF) I havent taken the updated ones pictures as it was in Starcore and I wanted the stock UI in the screenshot

and I just thought something that does about 2 times the damage of an iron, should it really weight half the weight ? I was going for a balance but if you think I should half it then ok, dont forget the small one is double the size of an iron.

also the whole going Nary I think could start to really annoy people really fast :P

SSG: I might make them legal in future tournaments but they wont do much good in CC3 as they are designed for stock RA2
Title: Cool spikes
Post by: Viper89 on September 15, 2009, 10:39:28 AM
Cool prizes :approve:. I think it's kind of funny that Nary's talking in third person, maybe he's just pumping himself up for the tourney hes prolly going to Pwn majority of us any way:evil:. Lets go naryyyyyyy lol.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Reier on September 15, 2009, 11:17:38 AM
Nice - but I have no idea what "stongest" means. :P
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 15, 2009, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: Reier;66282
Nice - but I have no idea what "stongest" means. :P


haha I didn't even notice that:smiley:. Maybe it's Australian;).
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2009, 06:37:30 PM
seriously?, I didnt think that was Australian.... it basically means nothing else is stronger then it or it is less breakable then anything else
Title: lol
Post by: Viper89 on September 15, 2009, 06:49:32 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;66337
seriously?, I didnt think that was Australian.... it basically means nothing else is stronger then it or it is less breakable then anything else


I was joking again chill:smiley:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Reier on September 15, 2009, 06:51:04 PM
Heh, Strongest. :P You forgot the R. I was just messing with you.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Badnik96 on September 15, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: MrRoboto75;66165
I thought mine was a bit... off.

However, its a bit sucky.


yah mine too XD
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on September 15, 2009, 08:05:12 PM
Joe, is it burst motor or piston?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 15, 2009, 08:12:33 PM
either one as long as it gets the job done, also on the spelling thing like I said before I just through whatever in that description while I was editing the GMF shape

also Viper, I never get mad or angry at people for no reason just talking normally so dont worry :) I understand sometimes reading things can be taken differently but always read my posts as happy :P
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on September 16, 2009, 01:34:24 AM
Just a quick question for the people who are knowledgeable about AI:

Would it be possible to use Philetbabe's S.O.W (Servo Oriented Weapons) AI to operate the "lance" when the bot charges?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 16, 2009, 01:52:29 AM
I havent played around with the SOW stuff much myself but Im guessing its possible, were you think of using a servo to pull weapons into place ?

if you were I may advice against that given swinging the weapons out unbalances robots, doing it right before impact doesn't really effect it but with a servo your robot will find the wall a lot sooner and build very little momentum to charge the opponent
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 16, 2009, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: JoeBlo;66358
also Viper, I never get mad or angry at people for no reason just talking normally so dont worry :) I understand sometimes reading things can be taken differently but always read my posts as happy :P


Ok I got you:smiley:, It's just sometimes it's hard to tell if you serious or not but now I know you are a happy poster;).
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on September 17, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: R0B0SH4RK;66377
Just a quick question for the people who are knowledgeable about AI:

Would it be possible to use Philetbabe's S.O.W (Servo Oriented Weapons) AI to operate the "lance" when the bot charges?


I haven't actually tried that, but it seems like it'd be somewhat underpowered; the swinging motion of the burst motor puts adds some extra force to the weapon that you don't get with a static or slow-moving weapon.

Still don't let me squelch your creativity, if you think you know a way to do it, then go for it; you'll have one of the most creative entries if you can pull it off.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on September 18, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
Bad question but, how do i submit my entry, since this is actually the first RA2 tournament that i've entered.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 18, 2009, 11:30:45 PM
no problem you exported your bot right? just right click it and click send to > compressed zip file.

then jump onto the home page of GTM (with the botm winner, etc) and click file host upload the zip file and it will give you a link

pm me that link and I can download your bot from there :-D
Title: im in
Post by: nicsan2009 on September 19, 2009, 06:03:16 PM
Sounds Real cool Im In
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: 40757 on September 19, 2009, 06:32:49 PM
You're really, really, late.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Reier on September 19, 2009, 07:00:29 PM
Sept 23rd? Better get building.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on September 19, 2009, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;67142
no problem you exported your bot right? just right click it and click send to > compressed zip file.

then jump onto the home page of GTM (with the botm winner, etc) and click file host upload the zip file and it will give you a link

pm me that link and I can download your bot from there :-D


Having problems with the zip file. Do i have to AI it? If so, i may not be able to submit it in time.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: 090901 on September 19, 2009, 08:11:30 PM
Quote
Do i have to AI it? If so, i may not be able to submit it in time.


Look right below.

Quote from: JoeBlo;62228

AI’ing? I have worked out a way to AI the entrees so you don’t have to worry about AI’ing your entry
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on September 19, 2009, 08:19:46 PM
Quote from: 090901;67354
Look right below.


I meant to make it a file for him.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: nicsan2009 on September 19, 2009, 08:40:37 PM
I know But Im real new so i just heard of it and it seems fun
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: trumpetguy on September 19, 2009, 10:09:30 PM
I think I have to drop out because my aunt is using my gaming laptop.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 19, 2009, 10:20:40 PM
sad to hear that TG, you still have a place until Wednesday if you can get something in if not this is how things are going to be worked out..

nicsan2009 and I have been talking though pm and he has entered a robot that will replace "Failious The Unclaimed" meaning no house robot

if TG you cant get something in not to worry Failious is itching to demonstrate its lack of skills to you all lol

also TriTon I will send you over a pm with my email address if you like and you can just email the bot file over, no need to worry about the zip, does that sound good ?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on September 21, 2009, 07:09:54 PM
Still having problems.

For some reason, my computer won't allow me to make a zip file.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 21, 2009, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: TriTon;67757
Still having problems.

For some reason, my computer won't allow me to make a zip file.


Download WinRar that should solve your problem, I use it all the time for Zip and RAR files.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on September 21, 2009, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: Viper89;67761
Download WinRar that should solve your problem, I use it all the time for Zip and RAR files.


I have WinRar.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: roboman2444 on September 21, 2009, 08:10:28 PM
download 7zip
its basically winrar but without the .rar
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 21, 2009, 08:20:05 PM
Quote from: TriTon;67766
I have WinRar.


what seems to be the problem then, explain in detail
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: kill343gs on September 21, 2009, 09:26:51 PM
Sorry Joe, I think I'm going to need to back out. The hard drive on my main computer fried, and I had to focus all my attention to RAW2 since I lost all my bots...
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 22, 2009, 02:57:13 AM
Quote from: TriTon;67757
Still having problems.

For some reason, my computer won't allow me to make a zip file.


how about .rar files ? or did you get my pm ? you can just send the .bot file via email to me

also that's a shame to hear Kill so that's 2 down.. I guess if this trend continues I will shave it down to a 24 bracket
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 22, 2009, 03:42:24 AM
King Of Karnage Bots Due (http://www.7is7.com/otto/countdown.html?year=2009&month=9&date=24&hrs=16&ts=12&min=0&sec=0&tz=480&lang=en&show=dhms&mode=t&cdir=down&bgcolor=%23FFFFFF&fgcolor=%23000000&title=King%20Of%20Karnage%20Bots%20Due)

ok I made this countdown timer which will countdown to the time robots are due in GMT+8 so no matter where you are, your bots need to be in before that timer hits zero :-D

the due date has been extended for an extra day given I am rather busy for the next few days
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Doomkiller on September 22, 2009, 06:12:45 AM
Don't worry joeblo, Ima just about to send me bot to ya, just need to give it a skin
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 22, 2009, 06:37:30 AM
Am so lazy in bot building these days (even considering that i'm in school)

Probably going to rebuild Raptor Knight into something better.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Pwnator on September 22, 2009, 09:12:57 AM
Sorry, JB. Due to time constraints (and my RA2 keeps crashing as well), I'm dropping out on this one. But I'll still showcase the prototype when I have the time. :D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 22, 2009, 09:32:22 AM
wow everyone is just dropping out, ah well.. no hard feelings this is just a filler tournament before I do Clash Cubes 3 :P
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Naryar on September 22, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
To prevent this, you could just extend the deadline.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 22, 2009, 10:30:09 AM
I did post this tournament about a month ago and announced the deadline 2 weeks prior... I guess I can stretch until next Tuesday at the very latest (that's another week)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Reier on September 22, 2009, 12:26:00 PM
Do we need to put an empty anchor or something to attach the target to?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on September 22, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
Joe, I know you've already AI'ed my bot, but since there's so much extra time, I might just go back and make improvements to it.   Is it ok if send you a new bot as long as it's within the deadline?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on September 22, 2009, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Resetti;67874
Joe, I know you've already AI'ed my bot, but since there's so much extra time, I might just go back and make improvements to it.   Is it ok if send you a new bot as long as it's within the deadline?


^^^ me to joe, I want to try what Nary said a few posts back:smiley:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: kill343gs on September 22, 2009, 01:06:17 PM
Maybe I can squeeze it in somewhere... don't count me out 100% yet unless you have someone to fill my place.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 22, 2009, 08:32:40 PM
Reier: forget about the target completely, I attach them using mads smart zones so don't worry, I just have the target for download encase anyone wants to have some fun with it

Sonny_Resetti: modifying is fine, everyone can do it once if they have already sent a robot, same as BBEANS rules

Viper89: same response as above :-D

kill343gs: if you can get something in before the due date thats fine, It has always been the plan to construct the bracket after entry's are in,
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 22, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
ok there are people dropping out, not dropiing out, updating, maybe competing, etc and so this makes managing the first post list rather hard so here is the deal

forgot about the list on post one, basically if you want to join this tournament send me a bot before the 29th of Sep and your in the tournament, I will work out a bracket from then
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on September 23, 2009, 02:57:27 PM
My computer is still screwing with me. I'm probably gonna have to drop out.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: life robot arena2 on September 23, 2009, 02:58:09 PM
NOT AGAIN!
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: roboman2444 on September 23, 2009, 03:09:22 PM
ok here is what u do
go to the dump and get 3 computers from there.
using the parts from the other 2 fix up one and boot it with 98 or xp
put ra2 on it.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on September 23, 2009, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: roboman2444;68099
ok here is what u do
go to the dump and get 3 computers from there.
using the parts from the other 2 fix up one and boot it with 98 or xp
put ra2 on it.


What?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: LiNcK on September 23, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: TriTon;68101
What?


He means: Be a Hobo & Make your own PC...
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: roboman2444 on September 23, 2009, 03:14:56 PM
my media pc was created that way :)
 i can now watch hulu on my big screen!
the only diff is im making a new case and it is booted w/ linux
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 23, 2009, 03:18:18 PM
He is saying get 3 computers that would seem like they work from the scrap yard and then switch parts ifrom the other computers to one working one and install windows and RA2 on that.

Tough ,if you want a good one, buy stuff from a reliable provider, like I did, the parts should be at the post office tomorrow :D

Anywhays what kind of problems youre having with the computer? Looks like it works fine, is it just RA2 not wanting to startup?
I once got that the game worked fine, then I exited and cheked out the forums and went back to game and it didnt start up. A reboot fixed this weid lil prob.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on September 26, 2009, 08:02:02 PM
Joe, I've just had a bunch of projects come up, and there's no way I'll be able to redesign my bot in time.  Forget what I said about modifying my entry, I'll keep it in the tourney as is.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 27, 2009, 05:32:09 AM
yeah I have a fair bit of stuff on early next week and given the still slow amount of entry's I am going to stretch the date until next Friday (Oct 2nd) that should cover it  

the first post list has been changed, once again if you want to enter just send me something before the due date (whether your on the list or not doesn't matter)
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: cephalopod on September 27, 2009, 06:16:55 AM
I'm going to get some proper work done on this now... and while I'm thinking about it, a certain preview you uploaded a few hours back for a certain tournament looks AWESOME.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: MrRoboto75 on September 27, 2009, 08:34:10 AM
I thought i had entered something...

It was rather early, so if you misplaced it or something, I'd be willing to replace it.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 27, 2009, 08:39:02 AM
yeah you might want to resend as I have nothing on my end, no pm from you (I save all pm's with peoples entry's until everything is set up for filming) nor do I have a .bot file from you

sorry :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: MrRoboto75 on September 29, 2009, 06:56:51 PM
I've tried again at sending a bot.

Did you get it this time?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on September 30, 2009, 12:37:08 AM
I haven't tested it out yet but it made it safely to my inbox :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 01, 2009, 07:53:23 AM
not much longer to get some bots in guys...deadline is 12 noon friday GMT +8 which is about 15 hours from the time of this post :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: trumpetguy on October 01, 2009, 09:03:23 AM
yes I found the bot! wait this is HW.....Time to put ballasts!!
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 01, 2009, 09:07:31 AM
many people are going underweight for the sake of speed so just tip it over the 400 mark if you want to use it, it tends to make the bots faster
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: TriTon on October 01, 2009, 10:19:17 AM
Im gonna have to drop out.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 01, 2009, 10:23:21 AM
thats a shame Triton... I thought you have an entry made ?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on October 01, 2009, 08:55:02 PM
Let me know if you got the new version of my bot ok.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 01, 2009, 09:17:13 PM
it c out ok the only thing is....

the weapon doesn't quite clear the wall but can be easy fixed by reversing the tribar so it is angled upwards
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 01, 2009, 10:11:20 PM
only about an hour left for submission... I must say I was a little disappointed to see so many names on the list but only 13 have followed through to this point...

so I worked out I would need another 3 entrys for a nice bracket...

Failious (house robot) will take one

Naryar you sent me a few concept bots I might put in the better one of the 2 for you if you dont get something to me within the hour

and another house robot (unless someone gets a robot in)

so I know its a bit of a rip off but I thought it would be amusing so here is the other house robot Backwards Bob

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/screenshot_252.png)

as the name suggests it goes backwards to the direction it looks like it would go :P just a bit of extra fun
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 01, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
TG managed to pull in an entry with 30 mins to spare lol

so by my workings 14 + Naryar (he does have 30 mins to submit another version if not one of his concepts was pretty good) and then one house bot
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 01, 2009, 11:06:59 PM
entrys are now closed, I am nearly done with the AIing so expect the splash up sometime today :-D
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on October 02, 2009, 12:28:59 AM
I really wanted to be in this, but I haven't had time. If you could extend the deadline to Sunday, I could have something...
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 02, 2009, 12:34:08 AM
sorry ROBO did really want to stretch this much longer... I will likely do this again as its a bit of fun (kinda like n00b warz) but its been here for a month and so its time it moved along
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on October 02, 2009, 12:54:29 AM
Fair enough. I will be in the next one though.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Badnik96 on October 02, 2009, 04:24:53 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;70022
only about an hour left for submission... I must say I was a little disappointed to see so many names on the list but only 13 have followed through to this point...

so I worked out I would need another 3 entrys for a nice bracket...

Failious (house robot) will take one

Naryar you sent me a few concept bots I might put in the better one of the 2 for you if you dont get something to me within the hour

and another house robot (unless someone gets a robot in)

so I know its a bit of a rip off but I thought it would be amusing so here is the other house robot Backwards Bob

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/screenshot_252.png)

as the name suggests it goes backwards to the direction it looks like it would go :P just a bit of extra fun


monster jam fan eh?
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: Viper89 on October 02, 2009, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo;70016
it c out ok the only thing is....

the weapon doesn't quite clear the wall but can be easy fixed by reversing the tribar so it is angled upwards


hmmmm I missed this post today. I'm not sure how to reverse the tribar because I suck at stock, but maybe you  could put a longer extender to raise the burst motor, I'm not sure would be more work for you:?. If you want I can redo it:smiley:.
Title: King Of Karnage - Jousting Tournament Idea
Post by: JoeBlo on October 02, 2009, 11:42:23 PM
I meant use the other attachment point on the tribar so its angled upwards not downwards, which I have done for you :-D