Jaydee Wars Mini Tourney - Signups

[MassimoV]

How? We're not sending the bots to you.

[TommyProductionsInc]

Alright, so me and Jaydee have established some more rules:

All entrants must be at least 770 Kgs.
Cheatbot2 may only be used IF NECCESSARY.
Replicas of bot's already in DSL are not allowed. (Unless there's another version of that bot that's different in appearence.)
BFE may only be used for the following:
180 degree burst motors.
Irregular chassis shapes. (As long as it's accurate to the actual robot.)
Chassis Height. (Again, as long as it's accurate to the actual robot. Minimum chassis height is 2.5)
AAM may only be used IF IT MAKES THE REPLICA MORE ACCURATE.
Same thing with Trov Glitching.
Stacking is limited to only batteries.
Realistic rules STRICTLY APPLY.
Robots MUST pass stability tests.
NO UNNECCESSARY WEAPON SPAM!
Havoking robots will be disqualified.
Custom Components are limited to recolors of existing components, and must be sent with the robot.
(THESE WILL BE THOROUGHLY EXAMINED TO ENSURE THEIR NOT SUPER CHEATY COMPONENTS.)
Wedges will have a custom damaging smartzone installed to make them competitive.
No NARmour, burst/axle/servo loading, rupt glitching/ or effeing.
Tourque-Reaction style robots will be specially treated to be competitive. (We need this to be fair.)
2-bot Multibots are allowed.
A custom Crusher Motor will be supplied if needed.

Anything else?

[helloface]

Alright, so me and Jaydee have established some more rules:


Cheatbot2 may only be used IF NECCESSARY. Not good enough. You need to be very specific when it comes to components
Realistic rules STRICTLY APPLY. You mean IRL, not realistic. Realistic is DSL-S with no intersecting parts.
Wedges will have a custom damaging smartzone installed to make them competitive. You might want to specify how much damage it does, and remember to not make it too OP or it'll be a wedgefest.
Tourque-Reaction style robots will be specially treated to be competitive. (We need this to be fair.) What does that even mean?
A custom Crusher Motor will be supplied if needed. You should probably show the stats for this so it won't be too OP or underpowered.

[TommyProductionsInc]

Well, here's what I originally suggested:

Bots MUST weigh up to at least 770 kilos.
Custom components are limited to different colors of the base component, and wheel skins.
No text file editing.
BFE is limited to the following:
Chassis Height
180 Degree burstmotors.
And Irregular chassis shapes.
AAM should only be used for the sake of accuracy to the bot you're replicating.
Trov-Glitching is permitted ONLY if it's for accuracy.
All cheatbot components that aren't motors or weapons are permitted, with the following exeptions.
Judge Bursts
Moe Motors
Overkill Motors
Storm wheels aren't allowed.
Slow Flatmotors.(Only if ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY!)
Shrederator Shells are permitted.
Low quality replicas aren't allowed.
Plain wedges will get a custom damaging smartzone in order to be competitive.
All custom components must come with your entry, along with text files.
NO UNNECESSARY WEAPON SPAMMING!(We may add specialized cheat parts to competitors who wouldn't be as effective in RA2 as they were in real life.)
IRL rules apply, and WILL BE ENFORCED!
No effe glitching, axle/burst/servo glitching, or rupting.
Tourque-Reaction bots will be specially treated to be competitive with custom components, as a means of making them more realistic.
Custom Crusher motors will be supplied. (They're basically the same power as large DSL servos.)
Bot's must pass VERY strict stability tests.
Havoking bots will be disqualified.
2-bot multibots are allowed.
Competitors may be modified to fit with our standards. (entrants will be notified of all changes made, and negotiating may be in order.

I didn't consider copy-pasting this earlier, for some reason.

[MassimoV]

Damn, that's alot of rules...

[TommyProductionsInc]

Damn, that's alot of rules...

Well, I wanted to be specific.
Are these rules reasonable enough?
Also, who changed the closing date for voting?

[MassimoV]

Well I think, much like most these new guys' extender work, they seem a bit sloppy. Just be like, If it's not up to the right standards, then it won't be accepted.

[TommyProductionsInc]

Well...

So what?
So what if these rules are imperfect? This is the first tournament Jaydee and I have tried.
At least give it a chance.
It's stuff like this that results in senseless whacking and flaming which forge vengeful n00bs and discourage others from making tournaments.
Sure, Jaydee can be a n00b at times, but it's not like he means to. I lurked here for about a year before joining.
And what's wrong with replica tournaments these days?  It used to be cool, but now everyone is getting pissy about potential try-harding and finding loopholes in the rules.
THAT'S LIFE.
Poeple will cheat, lie, and abuse power, because it's human nature.
I may be stretching it a little, I might even be flamed, but it's just a game.
What's at stake here? Can a potentially awesome tournament be swayed by just a few mishaps? It's normal for stuff to be flawed.
Most of you guys aren't even trying to help. Sure, normally people don't start tournaments without an overall solid idea, but what will a little help hurt?
There are tournament that have gotten plenty of support, loads of approval, but in the end, died.
It's not all JUST about well refined, perfected, run of the mill tourney rules. It's also motivation, and a passion.
Jaydee has that. An example would be the replica thread, where he was flamed for a poorly done replica, but did he quit?
NO!
He came back later with an awesome replica later on, despite being told he couldn't do it.
The same can happen here.
And it's not like he asked me to help, he's my friend, and friends help eachother.
If you guys are my friends,wouldn't YOU try and help a little, rather than criticize, like some of you have.

I rest my case.

[HurricaneAndrew]

This whole thing is stupid and will never get any farther than it's current stage.

[helloface]

tryingtoohard.jpg
Nobody is going to enter it if you don't take feedback. If this ever starts you'll probably get eight entries at best.

[090901]

Are these rules reasonable enough?

Allow eFFe.

[MassimoV]

If you're not good at tournaments and running them, then don't. There's no reason to force it especially when you check that interest poll. No one's really angry about people finding loopholes. Yeah it can be annoying, but no one's asking for an additional 20+ rules either. Also, yeah we were all kinda bad at some point or another, but you don't try hosting a tournament when you're at that stage. I think both of you could host a tournament if you went some where else with it to be honest. No one's saying out right to quit, just fix some thoings up.

[TommyProductionsInc]

tryingtoohard.jpg
Nobody is going to enter it if you don't take feedback. If this ever starts you'll probably get eight entries at best.

Well, Jaydee is the one in charge, so I can't really do anything unless I get his reply or something.

[Mr. AS]

[wall of text that tommy GENUINELY thought would be a moving motivational speech]

Please look at more tournaments and observe what they do before trying to start your own tournament. Half of the rules for most tournies are just ripped straight from BBEANS.

[Jaydee99]

I think that should be all the rules.
Now, who's wants to enter?

Well...

So what?
So what if these rules are imperfect? This is the first tournament Jaydee and I have tried.
At least give it a chance.
It's stuff like this that results in senseless whacking and flaming which forge vengeful n00bs and discourage others from making tournaments.
Sure, Jaydee can be a n00b at times, but it's not like he means to. I lurked here for about a year before joining.
And what's wrong with replica tournaments these days?  It used to be cool, but now everyone is getting pissy about potential try-harding and finding loopholes in the rules.
THAT'S LIFE.
Poeple will cheat, lie, and abuse power, because it's human nature.
I may be stretching it a little, I might even be flamed, but it's just a game.
What's at stake here? Can a potentially awesome tournament be swayed by just a few mishaps? It's normal for stuff to be flawed.
Most of you guys aren't even trying to help. Sure, normally people don't start tournaments without an overall solid idea, but what will a little help hurt?
There are tournament that have gotten plenty of support, loads of approval, but in the end, died.
It's not all JUST about well refined, perfected, run of the mill tourney rules. It's also motivation, and a passion.
Jaydee has that. An example would be the replica thread, where he was flamed for a poorly done replica, but did he quit?
NO!
He came back later with an awesome replica later on, despite being told he couldn't do it.
The same can happen here.
And it's not like he asked me to help, he's my friend, and friends help eachother.
If you guys are my friends,wouldn't YOU try and help a little, rather than criticize, like some of you have.

I rest my case.

Thank you.

This whole thing is stupid and will never get any farther than it's current stage.

Thanks for the support. You REALLY helped out there. Did you even read what Tommy said?

Are these rules reasonable enough?

Allow eFFe.

If Tommy wants to, he will.

If you're not good at tournaments and running them, then don't. There's no reason to force it especially when you check that interest poll. No one's really angry about people finding loopholes. Yeah it can be annoying, but no one's asking for an additional 20+ rules either. Also, yeah we were all kinda bad at some point or another, but you don't try hosting a tournament when you're at that stage. I think both of you could host a tournament if you went some where else with it to be honest. No one's saying out right to quit, just fix some thoings up.

Well, I'm not good at the moment but how the hell do you expect me to get better? Learning, Practice. C'mon Massimo.

[wall of text that tommy GENUINELY thought would be a moving motivational speech]

Please look at more tournaments and observe what they do before trying to start your own tournament. Half of the rules for most tournies are just ripped straight from BBEANS.

Right, he did genuinely think of that awesome speech. I get it about the BBEANS tournaments but I really wanted to create something that doesn't follow the footsteps of other people.

[helloface]

You get better by actually listening to the advice we gave you.

[Thyrus]

FYI

for people who are wondering what the thing is people ban from tournaments it`s this:



someone named it "Thyrus Glitch" f

[Natster-104]

FYI

for people who are wondering what the thing is people ban from tournaments it`s this:



someone named it "Thyrus Glitch" f

What does it actually do? Crash the game?

[cephalopod]

Okay, if everyone could just chill out that would be awesome.

From what I can tell from a message Jaydee sent me, Tommy will be receiving the entries and checking they abide by the ruleset before moving them onto Jaydee who will be AIing and recording the matches.
As I told them I have faith that anybody can run a tournament as long as the community wishes to be part of it and they will put the work in, so let's not bash the idea. If you're not interested, the option is there in the poll.

[Jaydee99]

Ok, that glitch is awesome but is not allowed.
Tommy will take over now but I still want to have a say in some rules he introduces. I'm still AI'ing and recording though.
And still can introduce some rules.