Author Topic: Ironbot Jr. - Signups (Closed) (Read 9983 times)

Lightning S. · « **on:** October 17, 2015, 08:28:11 PM »

Welcome to Ironbot Jr. - mostly same as the original Ironbot from four years ago, but now having lightweights with a division for Stock, DSL, and Ironforge (no bracket relation between the three) with some other minor rule changes. If you don't know, the goal of Ironbot was not necessarily to win matches, but to keep your bot as in-tact as possible, as once you lost a component (with a couple exceptions), it was gone for the rest of the tournament.

-At the beginning of the tournament, all the bots are randomly paired off in 1 vs. 1 fights. In the following round, the winners and losers will be separated into two groups. All the bots in each group are randomly paired off and fight. This process repeats for all the following rounds. In this way, the same two bots will never fight two rounds in a row. If there are an odd number of bots in both groups, the bots remaining after pairing off will fight if they didn't already fight in the previous round. If they did fight in the previous round, the bots are randomized over again. If there are an odd number of bots total, the bot in the loser's group with the most damage gets a bye.
-Matches will last 30 seconds. Larrain has been kind enough to supply me with a .py for the arena that automatically ends matches after 30 seconds.
-Any components that break during a match are permanently lost for the rest of the tournament. All other damage not resulting in a break is reset between fights.
-Bots are eliminated when they are either KO'd, or are reduced to 1 or 0 wheels. It doesn't matter how many match wins or losses a bot gets as long as it isn't KO'd or de-wheeled. All bots get one spare control board, which allows them to be KO'd once without being eliminated. They also get a number of spare wheels equal to what they start with (I'm being a little more lenient than Click here because realisticly no one will enter a serious bot with more than two wheels into a lightweight tournament). Spare wheels are used immediately after any wheels are lost in a fight, and unpowered wheels on axle mounts do not count toward the number of spare wheels you get, but they can be moved in case the powered wheels break.
-If a wheel is attached to another external component (such as a drive motor or an extender), and that component breaks, a spare wheel will allow the replacement of any components that are necessary to re-attach the wheel. Any other components attached to the broken component not necessary for the attachment of the wheel are lost. For any bot that has more than 2wd, if it loses wheels such that the drive becomes asymmetrical and it can't drive straight, the wheels will be rearranged so that it can drive straight. For any bot with 4wd or higher, if there are an odd number of wheels remaining, one of them will be unpowered so that the bot can drive straight.
-If a bot has vertical spinning weapons and it loses some weapons, the remaining weapons will be arranged in order to keep the bot as balanced as possible.
-As soon as there are four or fewer bots remaining, they will engage in a final fight to the death. This will pit all remaining bots against each other in a rumble, with no time limit.

-Unlimited entries
-You are allowed to update any bot of yours ONCE and only once before signups close; afterwards, no robots may be changed.
-Signups will be open for one week only, however I may extend this time period if neccessary (I want at least eight robots per division).
-I can AI, but it is prefered that you do so. That being said, no cheaty AI.
-I will be entering all divisions. Here are my bots:

-Winners of each division will get an automatic spot into my next tournament and a copy of my AI pack if they want it
-Arena will be the Compressor Arena with new starting points and more damaging arena spikes

-Havok explosions are ignored unless a bot is stuck in the arena, thrown into a hazard, flipped to where it cannot get up, etc. such that it loses components that otherwise wouldn't be broken, in which case the match is restarted. There is no penalty for causing Havok explosions, with the exception being the fight to the death, in which a robot will be eliminated for causing a game-altering havok more than once (see conditions above for what "game-altering" is).

Sample video here:
You have to enter!

Silverfish · « **Reply #1 on:** October 18, 2015, 08:54:20 AM »

this should be interesting. if i can make something, i'd be happy to enter. ironbot was one of my favorite tourneys and i'm happy to see it revived.

09090901 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:28:20 AM »

Don't ban sns, just ban meltlybrain

Silverfish · « **Reply #3 on:** October 18, 2015, 09:30:40 AM »

people actually make lw sns? i never knew....

Lightning S. · « **Reply #4 on:** October 18, 2015, 08:58:22 PM »

Quote from: Geice on October 18, 2015, 09:28:20 AM

Don't ban sns, just ban meltlybrain

The problem with that is if two SnS bots go against each other, nothing happens.
On another note, I assume that I'm allowed to do this since the thread got approved. Added some rules to DSL bots' defensive measures and might do the same for Ironforge.

cephalopod · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:31:45 AM »

I don't see why you wouldn't be allowed to do it. At the end of the day, Click isn't around right now, and this will for sure be an interesting tournament. I think it's wise to keep SNS banned. Will definitely try to enter at least the DSL/Ironforge brackets.

RedAce · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2015, 06:01:05 AM »

You should also limit or ban casters and baseplate half-sheets for DSL. It'll make sure I don't enter an armored invincible tank here.

Other than that, I'll enter. I got a few drafts for each tourney.

Also, I'm sure Click posted how to work those magic python powers somewhere, but I am not quite sure on that.

Mr. AS · « **Reply #7 on:** October 19, 2015, 09:29:19 AM »

I don't really know why SNS are banned when they were allowed in the original ironbot tourney. Especially when "flail enhancement" is banned in the DSL part.

Lightning S. · « **Reply #8 on:** October 19, 2015, 09:52:10 PM »

Quote from: Mr. AS on October 19, 2015, 09:29:19 AM

I don't really know why SNS are banned when they were allowed in the original ironbot tourney. Especially when "flail enhancement" is banned in the DSL part.

When you combine the weight class and conditions for this tournament, I personally feel that SnS are too powerful for it, and not just in the DSL division. If enough people want them allowed, I'll consider changing it.
In other news, RedAce's advice has been taken and DSL rules have been altered slightly further. I've also added a logo.

RedAce · « **Reply #9 on:** October 21, 2015, 08:38:31 PM »

Oh yeah, I just remembered that Grinding Noise, a rad "popup" won last time. It might abuse the rules a bit here, even if it's lightweight. Will you ban those as well or not?

Lightning S. · « **Reply #10 on:** October 21, 2015, 09:25:33 PM »

Quote from: RedAce on October 21, 2015, 08:38:31 PM

Oh yeah, I just remembered that Grinding Noise, a rad "popup" won last time. It might abuse the rules a bit here, even if it's lightweight. Will you ban those as well or not?

Since this is a lightweight tournament and there's less room to abuse the rules with, I'm not sure if it'll be a problem. Albeit, if you can think of any examples of how lightweights could pull this off, feel free to let me know.
Also added my bots, since there's a least a bit of interest in this. Additionally, does anyone know how Click did the imprint thing in the original Ironbot logo? I was looking on cooltext for about half an hour and found nothing.

Silverfish · « **Reply #11 on:** October 21, 2015, 09:28:57 PM »

@redace: in regards to that, i'm not sure ANYONE could forget grinding noise XD. mad propz to nary, i'm still trying to figure out how to clone it.

RedAce · « **Reply #12 on:** October 21, 2015, 09:33:22 PM »

Perfectly understandable, and I think Click used the Bevel & Emboss function in Photoshop.

Lightning S. · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2015, 07:33:21 PM »

Added some rules regarding Ironforge defensive options. If anyone thinks there should be more, let me know.
Are there any tournament rules people want added/clarified? I'd like to start this as soon as I can, but I want to make sure there's interest first.

Bobyasianboy · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2015, 07:28:04 PM »

I think the rules are pretty good as they are. Definitely interested- already started prototyping some bots. Also want to through out there that your ironforge entry is way overweight. It's ironforge, so weight limits are halved :P

Lightning S. · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2015, 09:11:10 PM »

Quote from: Bobyasianboy on October 24, 2015, 07:28:04 PM

I think the rules are pretty good as they are. Definitely interested- already started prototyping some bots. Also want to through out there that your ironforge entry is way overweight. It's ironforge, so weight limits are halved :P

It has ballasts.
Do you guys think I should start a signups thread or wait?

Silverfish · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2015, 09:15:20 PM »

Bobyasianboy · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2015, 09:34:54 PM »

Quote from: Lightning S. on October 24, 2015, 09:11:10 PM

Quote from: Bobyasianboy on October 24, 2015, 07:28:04 PM
I think the rules are pretty good as they are. Definitely interested- already started prototyping some bots. Also want to through out there that your ironforge entry is way overweight. It's ironforge, so weight limits are halved :P
It has ballasts.

That was really dumb of me, didn't even consider that, sorry dude.

090901 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2015, 10:15:38 PM »

why are heater plows banned and plows limited to only 2 in ironforge?

Lightning S. · « **Reply #19 on:** October 24, 2015, 10:41:37 PM »

idk if heaters will be able to be broken in under 30 seconds under any possible circumstance in the tournament, and plow spam seems a bit op for this. admittedly though there's a lot of stuff i don't know about ironforge so if you think it should be changed then just say