GTM Robot Wars - SBV

[FaceBagman]

Witching Hour : Eh. I not comvinced

Honestly, thank you for finally showing a lack of confidence. I hope to be the favorite that loses early, to fulfill the RW prophecy. Too much pressure, tbh. :)

Don't give up! A wise man once said: "Never lose hope, be persistent and stubborn and never give up. There are many instances in history where apparent losers suddenly turn out to be winners unexpectedly, so you should never conclude all hope is lost."

Ay, but I've been the apparent winner that hopes he's a loser to spite everyone with too much faith. 

[firestorm999]

Bullet Bob : 

So my robot will become the most famous of GTM Robot Wars, as much as the godlike SFTW? Great!

No...

Ah, but you have simply labelled my robot with an image of SFTW. That means that you predict Bullet Bot will have exactly the same fate as SFTW, as in it will lose spectacularly, but also somehow become a famous robot in RA2 history. I have henceforth converted your label into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

On a serious note though, could you explain, in technical detail, why you think that Bullet Bot is the SFTW in GTM Robot Wars? After all, it actually has a strength (speed). :P

[Naryar]

hmm. the newbies are sure being cheeky today.

answer to both of you is : your weapon setup. It's random, ineffective, and not especially cool looking either.

as a general rule, your weapons are supposed to work together. in Bullet Bob's case, the weapons are not the same lengths so will not work. Plus pole spikes are only meh on rammers. in Witching Hour's case, the hammer isn't exposed but the extender (as in the DSL bar) is, and a single beater isn't cutting it either,  hence unless the enemy bot gets under yours, you will probably lose your beater bar AND DSL bar way before your hammer.

i hope i am clear.

[Badger]

Bullet Bob : 

So my robot will become the most famous of GTM Robot Wars, as much as the godlike SFTW? Great!

No...

Ah, but you have simply labelled my robot with an image of SFTW. That means that you predict Bullet Bot will have exactly the same fate as SFTW, as in it will lose spectacularly, but also somehow become a famous robot in RA2 history. I have henceforth converted your label into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

On a serious note though, could you explain, in technical detail, why you think that Bullet Bot is the SFTW in GTM Robot Wars? After all, it actually has a strength (speed). :P

Poorly built with extremely underwhelming weaponry

[wrhysj]

This is not against you but why are people talk like this redditbots thing was something special?
I'm sure you will improve your building the more time you spend in the botlab

I think you underestimate the importance of reddibots. It brought a lot of people to competition ra2. It was my first competition and my first competitive win and brought me here

[kix]

I think Bullet Bot (or is it Bullet BoB) will have same fate as Nemesis in RW..

Sadly game has no burning physics

[cephalopod]

This is not against you but why are people talk like this redditbots thing was something special?
I'm sure you will improve your building the more time you spend in the botlab

I think you underestimate the importance of reddibots. It brought a lot of people to competition ra2. It was my first competition and my first competitive win and brought me here

Redditbots is the reason this tournament exists.
I was very frustrated with their irl rule which allowed a lot of very very dubious stuff in. So I figured I'd show how we do it round here.

[Avalanche]

Redditbots is inferior to GTM tournaments. End of argument.

[cephalopod]

Wouldn't go that far man. It's bought a fair few new members here and for that I'm so so grateful. You're all welcome here, don't let anything said about reddit put you off.

[090901]

Redditbots is inferior to GTM tournaments. End of argument.

[FaceBagman]

I think Bullet Bot (or is it Bullet BoB) will have same fate as Nemesis in RW..

Sadly game has no burning physics

Nor carpet armor, unfortunately.

[Baconus_Yum]

Redditbots is inferior to GTM tournaments. End of argument.

For
Some
Stuff.
(You know it just started this year, right?)

[FaceBagman]

in Witching Hour's case, the hammer isn't exposed but the extender (as in the DSL bar) is, and a single beater isn't cutting it either,  hence unless the enemy bot gets under yours, you will probably lose your beater bar AND DSL bar way before your hammer.

i hope i am clear.

Oh certainly, no argument here! I definitely am aware of the drawbacks, which is why I was dead serious when I mentioned I was glad that someone finally said it's underwhelming. A few folks earlier in the thread were predicting it as a heat winner & I was getting worried about hyping people up too much, haha.

I could have worked on a more optimized design, but I rather enjoyed the look of the "arms" and their hammers in it's clock-shape. Definitely going to observe it's strengths and weaknesses, how it performs in the tournament, & make tweaks in the future. However, I probably won't work to counter 1 specific weakness since, as in RL combat robotics, doing so could open up several new weaknesses.

Plus, all I ever wanted from it was an invertible clock-bot that could Mauler-dance like a ballerina on shrooms, so I'm content no matter what. 

[FaceBagman]

Wouldn't go that far man. It's bought a fair few new members here and for that I'm so so grateful. You're all welcome here, don't let anything said about reddit put you off.

I'm quite thankful you made the transition into the deeper waters as easy as possible by posting over there & putting work into making this tournament very accessible!

My two cents: The best thing about RB is how hosting a tourney on our Subreddit has exposed a wider audience to the game in general. People who wouldn't have otherwise known about RA2 or GTM are loving the game and I think for a lot of them, it makes them feel a step more involved in the community there too, which is awesome.

That being said, there are pros and cons to watching a tournament containing so many newcomers, where the field is not polished enough to have found the "meta" yet. Personally, it's kind of exciting to me. But I can see how it would put many more experienced builders off.

[Merrick]

Redditbots is inferior to GTM tournaments. End of argument.

For
Some
Stuff.
(You know it just started this year, right?)

Advice for newbies: Don't listen to Avalanche, or take anything he says too seriously.

[090901]

Redditbots is inferior to GTM tournaments. End of argument.

For
Some
Stuff.
(You know it just started this year, right?)

Advice for newbies: Don't listen to Avalanche, or take anything he says too seriously.

Pretty much this.

[Baconus_Yum]

Redditbots is inferior to GTM tournaments. End of argument.

For
Some
Stuff.
(You know it just started this year, right?)

Advice for newbies: Don't listen to Avalanche, or take anything he says too seriously.

Taken into consideration.

[firestorm999]

hmm. the newbies are sure being cheeky today.

answer to both of you is : your weapon setup. It's random, ineffective, and not especially cool looking either.

as a general rule, your weapons are supposed to work together. in Bullet Bob's case, the weapons are not the same lengths so will not work. Plus pole spikes are only meh on rammers. in Witching Hour's case, the hammer isn't exposed but the extender (as in the DSL bar) is, and a single beater isn't cutting it either,  hence unless the enemy bot gets under yours, you will probably lose your beater bar AND DSL bar way before your hammer.

i hope i am clear.

If it just an uninspiring weapon setup, that is actually quite good for a build of mine. My theory into the design of Bullet Bot/Bob is not for attack power, but instead for its raw pushing power. The idea is that once Bullet Bot gets underneath at the front, the weapons ruin the underside of the robots, or at the very least allows Bullet Bot to shove it into a corner or pit. Test conducted on several DSL and Robot Wars Mod (note, the mod version had subtle changes, but the DSL version here was a complete rebuild still) robots proved that these theories could work, especially due to the fact that Bullet Bot, although not as fast as say a Bullet Train, is still very quick. It may need a miracle against some of the lowest wedges I have seen, however.

Theoretically, it could be a match to a select few in GTM Robot Wars. I would have loved to see Bullet Bot face Hurt Sandwich, as although the latter has great damage potential, it is quite high up, meaning Bullet Bot could use its speed and aggression to create an evenly matched fight. Maybe the same theory could work against Hammertime and even Metrocide, two robots that are also great against other opponents, but again have high weapons, allowing the plucky Bullet Bot to make a stand. Meanwhile, maybe it could face Duck Fury- oh wait, this is no doubt the best robot here, Bullet Bot won't stand a chance against it.

As for the spikes, I will take that advice on board, replacing them either with iron spikes, or even converting the entire front to a disc. The only reason the pole spikes existed was due to the fact that I ran out of weight to use.

Unrelated to the quoted post meanwhile, Craaig, are you planning to do any side events? I read that you are doing a reserve rumble, amongst other battles.

[cephalopod]

Side events will happen if I get to the end of this and don't want to top myself :P

[Gulden]

Alright, my turn to give thoughts...

Ginger step Child: Good idea, bad execution.
Smaug: Looks like a mess to me.
Agent Orange:  A real contender.  Could make it to the heat final easily.   Finalist
Maelstrom: I don't see this guy hitting anyone unless flipped.
F30: I see it sneaking in a few kills here and there.                                   Finalist
Fusion reactor: Personally, I think it's overrated.  That's not saying it's bad though.

Hurt sanwhich:  As bad as it looks, It might put the hurt on someone.
Zlammer: Part of team Z. Are those typhoon teeth on a hammer?  I can't quite tell.  Finalist
Billet 9:  Not much to say... kinda dull...
Witching hour: A weaker but larger version of Billet 9.                                                Finalist
Reaper:  Not seeing it surviving with the opponents it was drawn against.
Gadriel:  Not a fan...

Darlene:  Underrated.  I see it doing very well.                                                                 Finalist
Metrocide:  I see it bouncing about a bit.
Industry 5:  Sexy.   However, if it's flipped, I can't see it getting back.                             Finalist
A piece of rake:  Put against some bots that counter it farely well.  Wish it could do well.
Phobos:  Could kill some kiddies.
31v15: I don't see it snagging on anything.  Might be an underdog.

Galaxy:  That exposed motor could be trouble...
Hypershocked:  Flip a coin on it.  It hasn't been doing to well in the rally. _{But still gets all the votes}
Terrazone:  That wedge is probably the deciding factor in this heat. I think it has a good chance.    Finalist
Cardine:  Could wreck something, but its weapon effectiveness could hurt it.                                  Finalist
Duck fury:  Duck fury
Scratch:  I've always felt like pussycat was overrated.

Invasion: The one to watch in the heat.                                   Finalist
Undercut:  Creative name, but civil uprising is better.
Lobsteriffic: My personal favorite.                                            Finalist
Flood XL-C:  Don't like the chassis shape.
VF-09 Walkure:  It'll be faster than everyone just because of the pistons.
Toxic slash:  Drawn with the wrong guys.  Gonna get wrecked.

Duke:  In a practice battle, it showed to tear things to bits then crash your game.    Finalist
Evil Art Project:  Could be a worthy finalist.
Deathstalker: Just full of surprises.  Great bot defensively.                                        Finalist
Hammatime:  This was before the bacon's showcase.
Gamma: Small reach.  Could be an underdog.
Bullet bot/b: An eye poker clone eh?