can someone AI for the tourny I might make?Ok ok ok, I will.
I noticed that After all, CA2 wasn't very popular... But you can't always win. :ermm:
CA2, to me, ranked behind N00b Warz, BBEANS and Clash Cubes as far as my favorite tournaments go (in that order).:P
BUMP
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How do you film a full match with Fraps? I have the trial, and I can only film for about 15-20 seconds before the vid stops. :rage
but im going to go with no :P
So it's legal?
im going to go with no
Each computer installs the software needs a license.
2 razors would only make a fail weapon though
interesting (and I guess unlimited extenders ?)
Iron Bot Builder America much?
Iron Bot Builder America much?
what is that? :confused: also i got the hat program running on my computer now so i could run the tourney.
(Stock scares me)
2 razors would only make a fail weapon though
It's quite a good idea, I think, but I can forsee a problem with the random drawing. If a person is drawn 2 HP Z-Teks, and mini wheels, the wheels won't actually touch the ground, hence there will be no movement.
(Stock scares me)
bah it only scares you becasue VS's arnt as good :P
BUMP: When can we start discussions again?
I've go too many tourney ideas in my head.
New Question. When running WeGame, I try to open iRacing to take a video of a replay. IRacing randomly quits before it is done loading. How can I fix this?
Edit: And how can I log out?
why?
Have you showcased it?why?
I made an awesome DSL MW.
why?
I made an awesome DSL MW.
Absolutely typical...when I finally get the MM awards off the ground, BBEANS finishes and shoves my thread aside.
Well if the system is broken that isn't really Badnik's fault for trying.
I will repost Dizzy Dragon tomorrow (because obviously it's not simple enough to go back 10 pages in the replica thread)
No, I'm not putting restrictions on anything. I need another type of twist. I just can't think of what.. And I'm perfectly capable of making prizes. :P
You could continue BTTB, but the other way round. Like, you could make Stock rebuilds of someone's first DSL showcased bot.
I thought you said Naryar there. :gawe:You could continue BTTB, but the other way round. Like, you could make Stock rebuilds of someone's first DSL showcased bot.
YOU ARE A GENIUS
EDIT: EVEN MORE OF A GENIUS THAN NORMAL :P
LLB, you know you won the first one, right?He might've won, but alas, Little Lost Bot never found his way home.
LLB, you know you won the first one, right?
LLB, you know you won the first one, right?He might've won, but alas, Little Lost Bot never found his way home.
Can some1 please help me with AIing and Recording for my next tourment. I would not make the tourement but there are no DSL heavyweight touraments to enter my popup in.You are creating a whole tourney, just so that you can enter your popup in it?
Well if someone creates one because there are not enough DSL MW or HW TourmentsCan some1 please help me with AIing and Recording for my next tourment. I would not make the tourement but there are no DSL heavyweight touraments to enter my popup in.You are creating a whole tourney, just so that you can enter your popup in it?
There's more variety possible in the upper weight classes, definitely. Most of the LW's in BBEANS 6 were either relatively similar, or not that effective. The freedom of more weight, and thus more components, in the MW and HW divisions opens doors in terms of design.
There's more variety possible in the upper weight classes, definitely.
You're kidding right, ofcourse that comment's true, more weight to play around with means more possible designs, simple.
Gray shirt, black shirt, gray shirt, black shirt, gray shirt... Oh look! A Noir shirt, that but be different, time to spice up my life!
Yes, it all leads us back to the one, non illusion in this world. Death.
Love is death and hate is death, food is death and oxygen is death, black is death and white is death, stock is death and DSL is death.
You're kidding right, ofcourse that comment's true, more weight to play around with means more possible designs, simple.
All DSL is is a bunch of boxes with pipes coming out of it and a bunch of loopholes to a realistic rule nobody follows.
All Stock is is a bunch of boxes stacked together.
If you honestly think that there is a scent of any sort of "variation" I hope to never see your goddamn wardrobe:
Quote from: Scorpion choosing clothes.Gray shirt, black shirt, gray shirt, black shirt, gray shirt... Oh look! A Noir shirt, that but be different, time to spice up my life!
I'd like to see a realistic stock tournament.Stock's Revenge
who wants to teach mo to ai.Actually, the weapon and speed are very good indeed on MOE, but the battery power needs sorting out.
Yes. He is unbelievably smug about that. I liked that idea, I would like another crack at it. Insecticide was just far too half-assed.I liked Insecticide, but it was unlucky to come against the crawler, IMHO. But to be honest, another Realistic Stock tourney would be a fun idea.
Not Quite Replica WarsNot quite? I wonder how it works?
-Not Replica Wars, using parts from one DSL Replica only and making it into a new MW.
Ah, OK. I think it could be an interesting idea, depending on what people choose to use.-Not Replica Wars, using parts from one DSL Replica only and making it into a new MW.
Moe and Judge will be the most used in that one. Judgeburst is not the only good thing about that replica
But each person only uses parts from one replica!So it is very restricted.
Sounds like the birth child of Robozone and the Challenge board
Its too heavily involved in my opinion and could be too demanding on the champions and those that have to host..
nice thought though..
Lost part match - first robot to remove a part of the other robot wins.
I can already see the robots make out of Hammers and Overkill wheelsLost part match - first robot to remove a part of the other robot wins.
Those would be quick matches..
I can already see the robots make out of Hammers and Overkill wheelsLost part match - first robot to remove a part of the other robot wins.
Those would be quick matches..
So I wanna enter in BBEANS7(will be my first BBEANS)but I have some questions how. Here they areBBEANS 7 signups haven't started yet, but for each of questions;
1:How do I sign up for the tournement
2: So lets say im all signed up and I have my bot ready, how do I send Clickbeetle my bot so he can AI it.
3:(THis might be hard to explain) So lets say Clickbeetele has my bot and its ready to fight, Is my bot turned into a computer bot and it just fights on its own OR do I get to fight my bot. If so (1) Where do i go to fight it at and (2) When do I fight it.
I need all of these answeared. BYE
P.S. What is AIing
I'm thinking to host CombatAnts 3 in August...another aw tourney?
I'm thinking to host CombatAnts 3 in August...
When you think about it, Jonzu is going to get through anyway if he does it now...
Derp.When you think about it, Jonzu is going to get through anyway if he does it now...
When you think about it, Jonzu is a Major League host thus doesnt need to use the poll system to make a new tournament..
hehehe Im just playin'Does this mean... you... get paid for being a mod?
I dont expect others to keep track of everything.. thats why ACAMS employed me :P
Does this mean... you... get paid for being a mod?
It looks like Notorious Nanos will be a winner.There's about as much chance of that happening as there is of Naryar announcing a preferance for Pole Spikes over Razors :rolleyes:
I need an AIer for my tourney.That would have to be yourself mate.
I have an idea to throw out to the rest of you people. Why don't we do a world championship. One for Stock and another for DSL?That's certainly an interesting idea - what weightclass though?
I have an idea to throw out to the rest of you people. Why don't we do a world championship. One for Stock and another for DSL?
I have an idea to throw out to the rest of you people. Why don't we do a world championship. One for Stock and another for DSL?
you wouldnt be the first to suggest that
its been suggested over and over and over again..
It got close one time to happening but most of us mutually agree that BBEANS pretty well carry's the rank of world champion
Yeah like that or if that does not work how about A British Isles/European championship with a seperate one For North Americans.I have an idea to throw out to the rest of you people. Why don't we do a world championship. One for Stock and another for DSL?
you wouldnt be the first to suggest that
its been suggested over and over and over again..
It got close one time to happening but most of us mutually agree that BBEANS pretty well carry's the rank of world champion
Or similar to how the Robot Wars championships worked, with different country representatives (But a few more spots for England and America)
European would be good but I can only think of...Yeah like that or if that does not work how about A British Isles/European championship with a seperate one For North Americans.I have an idea to throw out to the rest of you people. Why don't we do a world championship. One for Stock and another for DSL?
you wouldnt be the first to suggest that
its been suggested over and over and over again..
It got close one time to happening but most of us mutually agree that BBEANS pretty well carry's the rank of world champion
Or similar to how the Robot Wars championships worked, with different country representatives (But a few more spots for England and America)
Yeah like that or if that does not work how about A British Isles/European championship with a seperate one For North Americans.
Finnish (Jonzu)European would be good but I can only think of...Yeah like that or if that does not work how about A British Isles/European championship with a seperate one For North Americans.I have an idea to throw out to the rest of you people. Why don't we do a world championship. One for Stock and another for DSL?
you wouldnt be the first to suggest that
its been suggested over and over and over again..
It got close one time to happening but most of us mutually agree that BBEANS pretty well carry's the rank of world champion
Or similar to how the Robot Wars championships worked, with different country representatives (But a few more spots for England and America)
English
Scottish
Welsh
French users on this forum ATM.
Quoted for truth- as long as half of the representatives are not English, with the other nations only getting one each XDI have an idea to throw out to the rest of you people. Why don't we do a world championship. One for Stock and another for DSL?That's certainly an interesting idea - what weightclass though?
Is anyone planning on doing a Tabletop or King of the Hill tournament any time soon? Theres been a big lack of them recently.Maybe a tabletop after Bring your A Game
I have an idea similar to Pot Luck but with hybrids and Stock MW to make it a challenge to build. The idea goes like this for example:You could try and make it. It seems like a good idea.
Brazil. Chooses Bar HS/Rammer
Ireland Chooses Tribar VS/Flipper
France Chooses Angled Disc HS/Wammer
Kazakhstan Chooses Gyro Drill/Clamp
The two weapon types in thier chosen hybrid can be thrown with another chosen bot type to create a new hybrid like this.
Brazil. Has Clamp/Angled Disc HS.
Ireland Has Bar HS/Rammer
France Has Flipper/Gyro Drill
Kazakhstan Has Wammer/Tribar VS
Also to make it a bit more interesting VS, HS's and thier Angled Versions will have 4 versions of there weapon
1.Tribar
2.Flail
3.Bar
4.Disc
And thats so far what I can think of when it comes to the rules.
I know it is a cloned idea with differences but does it sound alright?
5. My siblings would try and ruin it and make it gayMaking it happy? What's wrong with that?
1. I have school in under two weeks and it gets serious because I the school year after that I will be doing GCSE's
You'll have to wait for the poll, so you won't have to worry to much. But if you get voted in, you could do it over the weekends
2. I share this laptop with someone else so putting it with school it makes about half an hour to film.
Use the half hour wisely
3. I can't AI.
Find someone to do it for you
4. I don't have a Youtube account and don't want one until about the end of the year.
Use GTM's YT account
5. My siblings would try and ruin it and make it gay and nerdy which would put me off for about 6 months. (There the ones who are trying to ruin Robot Combat for me)
Ignore them and tell them to get a life.
6. I want to improve my robot buliding a bit first.
Unless you are going to enter this doesn't matter
7. I am not allowed to download stuff off the internet unless they are something like AI Packs and music.
Ask the AIer to make the entrants into an AI pack
So that is why.
There the ones who are trying to ruin Robot Combat for meHow?
1. I have school in under two weeks and it gets serious because I the school year after that I will be doing GCSE's
You'll have to wait for the poll, so you won't have to worry to much. But if you get voted in, you could do it over the weekends
2. I share this laptop with someone else so putting it with school it makes about half an hour to film.
Use the half hour wisely
3. I can't AI.
Find someone to do it for you
4. I don't have a Youtube account and don't want one until about the end of the year.
Use GTM's YT account
5. My siblings would try and ruin it and make it gay and nerdy which would put me off for about 6 months. (There the ones who are trying to ruin Robot Combat for me)
Ignore them and tell them to get a life.
6. I want to improve my robot buliding a bit first.
Unless you are going to enter this doesn't matter
7. I am not allowed to download stuff off the internet unless they are something like AI Packs and music.
Ask the AIer to make the entrants into an AI pack
So that is why.
1. I have school in under two weeks and it gets serious because I the school year after that I will be doing GCSE's
You'll have to wait for the poll, so you won't have to worry to much. But if you get voted in, you could do it over the weekends
2. I share this laptop with someone else so putting it with school it makes about half an hour to film.
Use the half hour wisely
3. I can't AI.
Find someone to do it for you
4. I don't have a Youtube account and don't want one until about the end of the year.
Use GTM's YT account
5. My siblings would try and ruin it and make it gay and nerdy which would put me off for about 6 months. (There the ones who are trying to ruin Robot Combat for me)
Ignore them and tell them to get a life.
6. I want to improve my robot buliding a bit first.
Unless you are going to enter this doesn't matter
7. I am not allowed to download stuff off the internet unless they are something like AI Packs and music.
Ask the AIer to make the entrants into an AI pack
So that is why.
Yeah I'll try and do it. I'll make the topic now.
EDIT: I won't be able to film it because I am not allowed to download stuff like Fraps.
1. I have school in under two weeks and it gets serious because I the school year after that I will be doing GCSE's
You'll have to wait for the poll, so you won't have to worry to much. But if you get voted in, you could do it over the weekends
2. I share this laptop with someone else so putting it with school it makes about half an hour to film.
Use the half hour wisely
3. I can't AI.
Find someone to do it for you
4. I don't have a Youtube account and don't want one until about the end of the year.
Use GTM's YT account
5. My siblings would try and ruin it and make it gay and nerdy which would put me off for about 6 months. (There the ones who are trying to ruin Robot Combat for me)
Ignore them and tell them to get a life.
6. I want to improve my robot buliding a bit first.
Unless you are going to enter this doesn't matter
7. I am not allowed to download stuff off the internet unless they are something like AI Packs and music.
Ask the AIer to make the entrants into an AI pack
So that is why.
Yeah I'll try and do it. I'll make the topic now.
EDIT: I won't be able to film it because I am not allowed to download stuff like Fraps.
1. I have school in under two weeks and it gets serious because I the school year after that I will be doing GCSE's
You'll have to wait for the poll, so you won't have to worry to much. But if you get voted in, you could do it over the weekends
2. I share this laptop with someone else so putting it with school it makes about half an hour to film.
Use the half hour wisely
3. I can't AI.
Find someone to do it for you
4. I don't have a Youtube account and don't want one until about the end of the year.
Use GTM's YT account
5. My siblings would try and ruin it and make it gay and nerdy which would put me off for about 6 months. (There the ones who are trying to ruin Robot Combat for me)
Ignore them and tell them to get a life.
6. I want to improve my robot buliding a bit first.
Unless you are going to enter this doesn't matter
7. I am not allowed to download stuff off the internet unless they are something like AI Packs and music.
Ask the AIer to make the entrants into an AI pack
So that is why.
Yeah I'll try and do it. I'll make the topic now.
EDIT: I won't be able to film it because I am not allowed to download stuff like Fraps.
WeGame is the way to go, it's free and it records for however long you need it to.
1. I have school in under two weeks and it gets serious because I the school year after that I will be doing GCSE's
You'll have to wait for the poll, so you won't have to worry to much. But if you get voted in, you could do it over the weekends
2. I share this laptop with someone else so putting it with school it makes about half an hour to film.
Use the half hour wisely
3. I can't AI.
Find someone to do it for you
4. I don't have a Youtube account and don't want one until about the end of the year.
Use GTM's YT account
5. My siblings would try and ruin it and make it gay and nerdy which would put me off for about 6 months. (There the ones who are trying to ruin Robot Combat for me)
Ignore them and tell them to get a life.
6. I want to improve my robot buliding a bit first.
Unless you are going to enter this doesn't matter
7. I am not allowed to download stuff off the internet unless they are something like AI Packs and music.
Ask the AIer to make the entrants into an AI pack
So that is why.
Yeah I'll try and do it. I'll make the topic now.
EDIT: I won't be able to film it because I am not allowed to download stuff like Fraps.
WeGame is the way to go, it's free and it records for however long you need it to.
NO
NO
FRAPS IS BETTER
Getting someone to do it for you is quite frankly lazy, AI'ing ain't hard3. I can't AI.
Find someone to do it for you
Well, I ran 2 successful tournaments with someone AIing for me. But now I know how to AI.Getting someone to do it for you is quite frankly lazy, AI'ing ain't hard3. I can't AI.
Find someone to do it for you
all my ai bots just run scared.I had a similar problem...
My guess is that the nose is wrong. Try deleting the 'nose':math.pi,.
I thought of a weird idea.
How about a tourney in which the chassis you must use is shaped like Tetris Blocks.
And Stock MW. :trollface
Apologies for the lack of activity in the management department, Im working on some changes and the like to reduce my work load and issue some responsibility to thread owners (since some of you are making it nice and difficult for me to keep up with active tournaments :P)
This additional info should be in place within the next 24 hours and a new poll up soon
Apologies for the lack of activity in the management department, Im working on some changes and the like to reduce my work load and issue some responsibility to thread owners (since some of you are making it nice and difficult for me to keep up with active tournaments :P)
This additional info should be in place within the next 24 hours and a new poll up soon
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/36861Robosmiley.png)
Have an idea for a new tournament, but do not have the time, will or resources to do it.Metapocalypse ran on that idea, but it was never finished as NFX got too busy. If you have the time, go ahead.
I got to thinking about the old TLC show "Junkyard Wars" and then I wondered if a tournament like this could be possible. I was thinking DSL, and for the more popular components, there would be a limit to how many you could use on your robot. Limits such as 5 razors per bot, and maybe that you can only use certain components, and so on and so forth. This would give limitations, just like you would have if you were trying to scavenge parts from a scrapyard.
Does this seem like an interesting idea to anyone else?
Have an idea for a new tournament, but do not have the time, will or resources to do it.I want to do it,but I can't AI
I got to thinking about the old TLC show "Junkyard Wars" and then I wondered if a tournament like this could be possible. I was thinking DSL, and for the more popular components, there would be a limit to how many you could use on your robot. Limits such as 5 razors per bot, and maybe that you can only use certain components, and so on and so forth. This would give limitations, just like you would have if you were trying to scavenge parts from a scrapyard.
Does this seem like an interesting idea to anyone else?
the original blades of fury did that
- Judges. The match will be judged by 3 people.
Have an idea for a new tournament, but do not have the time, will or resources to do it.I've thought of that idea only people could only use one of each component. Components in the drop down menu will be considered a different component. Would be ludicrously hard.
I got to thinking about the old TLC show "Junkyard Wars" and then I wondered if a tournament like this could be possible. I was thinking DSL, and for the more popular components, there would be a limit to how many you could use on your robot. Limits such as 5 razors per bot, and maybe that you can only use certain components, and so on and so forth. This would give limitations, just like you would have if you were trying to scavenge parts from a scrapyard.
Does this seem like an interesting idea to anyone else?
I need someone to ai for my simple DSL tournament
Considering my city is doing a 100 year anniversary celebration of the Titanic I thought of a little tournament.What is your defination of regular glitching rule?
Name: Titanic Clash
Game: Stock
Weight: SHW
Restrictions: Only Rammers with regular glitching rules
Arena: Ocean Platform
Number of Entries: 8
Other: Only people who live on/within 200 miles of the entire Atlantic coast and surrounding seas are allowed to compete.
Thoughts?
I could AI if you want. Just pm me when you need some work done.
Someone should make a tournament with voice-over commentary for the matches. That would be pretty awesome.I take first dibs!
Someone should make a tournament with voice-over commentary for the matches. That would be pretty awesome.
In...RAW? He didn't do it for RAW 2, and I can't check the matches for RAW because the links on the site are broken.Someone should make a tournament with voice-over commentary for the matches. That would be pretty awesome.
Sage used to that IIRC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-LhyQnDEUA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-LhyQnDEUA#)In...RAW? He didn't do it for RAW 2, and I can't check the matches for RAW because the links on the site are broken.Someone should make a tournament with voice-over commentary for the matches. That would be pretty awesome.
Sage used to that IIRC.
only 2? ok now you're teasing me :P make it about 3 or 4 perhaps (but give those who haven't entered any others priority?)3 to 4 would work fine, but what do you mean other priorities? Also that would be terrific if you could make the splash!
i could make the splash, perhaps 2/3 a day at the moment
I'm thinking about making a RobOlympics. It will have 8 events and 4 competitors in each. Each event would be DSL. You can enter in up to 4 events. I was thinking:Sounds good to me.
- Regular building LW
- IRL MW I'll do it.
- All VS HW
- Regular building SHW
- Unrealistic MW
- KOTH HW(Duck's Tabletop) I'll do it.
- IRL LW I'll do it.
- Regular building AW I'll do it.
I can't really make a splash so I would need someone to help with that. I'll do it. I would get more specific in the actual discussion thread. So, what does everyone think?
16 if you havnt hosted a tourney before and 32 if you have
Just wondering if anybody has a download to a copy of FRAPS.theres one in my sig
Won't work D:Just wondering if anybody has a download to a copy of FRAPS.theres one in my sig
Nvm, just doesn't work on my netbook.Won't work D:Just wondering if anybody has a download to a copy of FRAPS.theres one in my sig
Nvm, just doesn't work on my netbook.Won't work D:Just wondering if anybody has a download to a copy of FRAPS.theres one in my sig
I HAVE NO MONIES MAN.Nvm, just doesn't work on my netbook.Won't work D:Just wondering if anybody has a download to a copy of FRAPS.theres one in my sig
Netbook =/= PC... Or even a Mac.
I know i'm still running a tournament already, but would people be interested in a DSL sumo tournament in the near future?I'd be interested in this, I was looking forward to kill's Sumo tournament before that went down the drain. I'd hope that it didn't degenerate into a wedge war, though.
it's pretty inevitable that it will be a wedge war IMOI know i'm still running a tournament already, but would people be interested in a DSL sumo tournament in the near future?I'd be interested in this, I was looking forward to kill's Sumo tournament before that went down the drain. I'd hope that it didn't degenerate into a wedge war, though.
wedge war ? any sns with large sweeping components and a quick spin up time would easily destroy the competition imo.....I know i'm still running a tournament already, but would people be interested in a DSL sumo tournament in the near future?I'd be interested in this, I was looking forward to kill's Sumo tournament before that went down the drain. I'd hope that it didn't degenerate into a wedge war, though.
Would a tournament for multiple forums be allowed?
Would a tournament for multiple forums be allowed?
What are you trying to get at? Roping in the FRA or something?
One more thing... would I be allowed to include non-entrant robots as well? I've built eight of them (they aren't exactly that good, they're mainly there to weed out the SFTWs) to fill in the blanks.
EDIT: I forgot to ask, do external entries count towards the 16-entry maximum for the first tournament?
One more thing... would I be allowed to include non-entrant robots as well? I've built eight of them (they aren't exactly that good, they're mainly there to weed out the SFTWs) to fill in the blanks.
Would they take the number of competing bots over 16 (Plus wildcard)?EDIT: I forgot to ask, do external entries count towards the 16-entry maximum for the first tournament?
All entries do.
AI'ing all the robots, recording matches, editing videos, uploading videos and linking videos is a lot of effort and most people don't realise that until they try which is probably the reason the limit exists. I also can't think of any sort of tournament that would require more then 16 entries.
I also can't think of any sort of tournament that would require more then 16 entries.Anything that involves team-built bots.
I also can't think of any sort of tournament that would require more then 16 entries.Anything that involves team-built bots.
AI'ing all the robots, recording matches, editing videos, uploading videos and linking videos is a lot of effort and most people don't realise that until they try which is probably the reason the limit exists. I also can't think of any sort of tournament that would require more then 16 entries.
That's entirely in the assumption that someone has never done anything like this before. I may not have made a tournament in Robot Arena 2 before, but I doubt it compares with overhauling a game (I'm working on the Fronteer Miners mod for LEGO Rock Raiders) or learning how to use the DirectX 11 SDK for C++ with just a reference website.
Also, I had the idea to make something similar to Robot Wars with MW DSL IRL robots. Of course, a heat-based tournament with 16 robots would only have four heats and a grand-final heat. That's not exactly championship-size.
We have no way of knowing if someone can keep up with the required amount of work, that's all. If you can host a small tournament with 16 entries successfully then you can move up to larger tournaments.
AI'ing all the robots, recording matches, editing videos, uploading videos and linking videos is a lot of effort and most people don't realise that until they try which is probably the reason the limit exists. I also can't think of any sort of tournament that would require more then 16 entries.
Gotta disagree with these. Especially the showing bots as they're received for two main reasons...
1. More work for hosts, and there's already enough workload for them,
2. Entries will slow down as people wait for others first to gain an advantage by devising their strategy to beat what they've seen.
I've already stated why I don't see a need for the other rule in your other topic. tl;dr version, not that big of a deal.
Control or lack of control over the bracket doesn't change the fact that there is an advantage to be had in knowing what the other entrants are. Even if it's just a perceived advantage and nothing else, I can still see people not entering until they see more of the other entrants....which, again, slows entries down.It's the same disadvantage the host has by posting his entry, if one of the later entries wants to make a bot designed to beat another person so be it. (someone said something along those lines towards the hosts disadvantage in the robo zone 2 topic).
And besides, when done right, the host himself has no control over the brackets either since they are (or at least should be) randomized.
Tournament idea:
Robotic Empire:
Heres how it goes:
16 bots knockout
Winner "captures" the opponents bot and can use that or their own bot for next match:
When it gets to the final however they must use their own bot and the three other bots they have "captured" in a 4 on 4 match.
And of course someone to AI.Just teach yourself to AI, it only takes like less than 30 mins to learn.
All I have to do is get some computer video recording program.hi there ;)
Had an idea for a new multi-event tournament :D Robo-lympics:sounds like a good set of ideas, i'd enter :D
*Host controlled bots.
*events include:
-Speed Time Trial, A one lap time trial around an arena.
-Long Jump, which bot can jump the furtherest of a ramp (custom arena required complete with distance markers).
-High Jump, which bot can jump the highest (would need a wall reskin).
-Weight-lifting, Which bot can lift the most weight.
-Shot put, which robot can throw an object the furtherest.
-gymnastics, which robot can do the most flips.
-Wrestling, which robot can pin the other for 3 seconds.
Making a Stock MW hybrid tourney but need someone who will be able to AI at some point between now and Mid-January.
Making a Stock MW hybrid tourney but need someone who will be able to AI at some point between now and Mid-January.For all your AIing needs:
DSL IRL MW?Ok.Depends on who is AI'ing.Maybe half and half?Also we should make it very small, as not to fail miserably.The Bot Maker will AI.
To host a tournament you have to know how to AI.DSL IRL MW?Ok.Depends on who is AI'ing.Maybe half and half?Also we should make it very small, as not to fail miserably.The Bot Maker will AI.
And since you will have to learn:To host a tournament you have to know how to AI.DSL IRL MW?Ok.Depends on who is AI'ing.Maybe half and half?Also we should make it very small, as not to fail miserably.The Bot Maker will AI.
For all your AIing needs:
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,11156.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,11156.0.html)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/8459AI-Chart-2.3.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/8459AI-Chart-2.3.rar)
I have a tourney idea but i want to know your opinion about it before starting:
War Machines
Stock SHW
Combat arena with hasards off (this is for reduce lag)
BFE, AAM, Hax mode and anything made outside the botlab except skinning is prohibited
AI parts and 140 cm extenders are allowed
Crawlers are allowed IF they show controlled mouvement
Other uncontrollable bot types are forbidden
Trinity glitch is Banned
Any ideas about this ?
they require you to build a new replica yourself...lol did you seriously even read his post
Crawlers are allowed IF they show controlled mouvementyesh
Does anyone know when the next tournament vote is?pm naryar
Hello I was thinking about starting a tourney but i can't choose between:If I were you I would make a poll.
1 DSL realistic SHW
2 DSL Unrelistic AW
Which one you would better like ?
So the new host must show entry rule has caused myself to suggest a couple of new rules:No ruling on this yet? I still think it's unfair for hosts to show their entry.
-The host can change/update their entry but must allow everyone else the option to change/update theirs and show the update/change in their topic before anyone else sends in their updates.
-The host is to post pictures of all entries as they receive them. (possibly in a constantly updated splash?)
I believe this clears up the update/change rule while allowing the host to be on more even grounds to everyone else.
So the new host must show entry rule has caused myself to suggest a couple of new rules:No ruling on this yet? I still think it's unfair for hosts to show their entry.
-The host can change/update their entry but must allow everyone else the option to change/update theirs and show the update/change in their topic before anyone else sends in their updates.
-The host is to post pictures of all entries as they receive them. (possibly in a constantly updated splash?)
I believe this clears up the update/change rule while allowing the host to be on more even grounds to everyone else.
1. What if the tourney is mostly popups, then the host goes out and builds a HS to counter all the popups, is that really fair?So the new host must show entry rule has caused myself to suggest a couple of new rules:No ruling on this yet? I still think it's unfair for hosts to show their entry.
-The host can change/update their entry but must allow everyone else the option to change/update theirs and show the update/change in their topic before anyone else sends in their updates.
-The host is to post pictures of all entries as they receive them. (possibly in a constantly updated splash?)
I believe this clears up the update/change rule while allowing the host to be on more even grounds to everyone else.
Go back a few pages, it was discussed at length. When I enter my own tournaments I usually don't enter to win but I still want to see how my new designs in action, this rule makes it near impossible for me and other hosts to win anything.because everyone is going to build their bot specifically to beat yours
Go back a few pages, it was discussed at length. When I enter my own tournaments I usually don't enter to win but I still want to see how my new designs in action, this rule makes it near impossible for me and other hosts to win anything.
I don't think a host should be competing seriously in their own tournament anyway.
and I'm going to build a bot to beat everyone else? not every bot will be the same...Go back a few pages, it was discussed at length. When I enter my own tournaments I usually don't enter to win but I still want to see how my new designs in action, this rule makes it near impossible for me and other hosts to win anything.because everyone is going to build their bot specifically to beat yours
Go back a few pages, it was discussed at length. When I enter my own tournaments I usually don't enter to win but I still want to see how my new designs in action, this rule makes it near impossible for me and other hosts to win anything.I don't think a host should be competing seriously in their own tournament anyway.
In other words... Good. The host shouldn't even come close to winning their own tournament. Their bot should basically be a bye bot.
Well, maybe I shouldn't have used those words... A tournament host should never be aiming to win their own tournament.Go back a few pages, it was discussed at length. When I enter my own tournaments I usually don't enter to win but I still want to see how my new designs in action, this rule makes it near impossible for me and other hosts to win anything.I don't think a host should be competing seriously in their own tournament anyway.
In other words... Good. The host shouldn't even come close to winning their own tournament. Their bot should basically be a bye bot.
Why the heck should a hosts bot be a bye bot? are you serious? The hosts should stand just as much of a chance as everyone else! Oh sure let's get Click entering a SFTW in his own tournament because no one wants him to win...
what the heck has this forum come to, where there's a rule (according to you) against a host winning?
Avalanche is a troll, other tournament hosts shouldn't have to suffer because of him especially if they have hosted other tournaments.
Okay, you mentioned Click.He always enters something cool, to say he wouldn't want to see his new bot do well is just stupid though, that's my problem... some of us tournament hosts actually build bots for our own tournaments just like everyone else to see how well they do, for us to be forced to show our entries when no one else needs to is just unfair.
Let's look at BBEANS6 - he entered Bisector. Easily one of the coolest designs there. Apart from Blood Orange. ;) I'm joking..
But yeah, it's plain to see he didn't enter to win, as much as show off an AWESOME new bot. I think, anyway.
Where do you get that from? I'm sorry if I want a fair chance in my own tournaments instead of just saying "here's my bot, build one to beat it".Avalanche is a troll, other tournament hosts shouldn't have to suffer because of him especially if they have hosted other tournaments.Avalanche has never been a troll. He was a n00b, but hasn't been for at least two years.
And here we go again with "I'm special 'cause my name is purple."
this rule makes it near impossible for me and other hosts to win anything.How does it make it impossible for you to win anything?
I'm sorry if I want a fair chance in my own tournaments instead of just saying "here's my bot, build one to beat it".Yes, because all 14/31 other people who entered are going to try to build a robot just to beat your robot. I came in 2nd in my own tourney despite the fact I showed my robot and it was a popup. Oh, and instead of getting HS with bottom armour that can kill Popups, I got a lot of Popups
Okay, you mentioned Click.He always enters something cool, to say he wouldn't want to see his new bot do well is just stupid though, that's my problem... some of us tournament hosts actually build bots for our own tournaments just like everyone else to see how well they do, for us to be forced to show our entries when no one else needs to is just unfair.
Let's look at BBEANS6 - he entered Bisector. Easily one of the coolest designs there. Apart from Blood Orange. ;) I'm joking..
But yeah, it's plain to see he didn't enter to win, as much as show off an AWESOME new bot. I think, anyway.Where do you get that from? I'm sorry if I want a fair chance in my own tournaments instead of just saying "here's my bot, build one to beat it".Avalanche is a troll, other tournament hosts shouldn't have to suffer because of him especially if they have hosted other tournaments.Avalanche has never been a troll. He was a n00b, but hasn't been for at least two years.
And here we go again with "I'm special 'cause my name is purple."
Let's say I enter a popup weak against horizontal spinners then everyone else enters a HS... sure it's not likely but neither is 1 host finding a way to beat many different bot types.this rule makes it near impossible for me and other hosts to win anything.How does it make it impossible for you to win anything?
Okay, you mentioned Click.He always enters something cool, to say he wouldn't want to see his new bot do well is just stupid though, that's my problem... some of us tournament hosts actually build bots for our own tournaments just like everyone else to see how well they do, for us to be forced to show our entries when no one else needs to is just unfair.
Let's look at BBEANS6 - he entered Bisector. Easily one of the coolest designs there. Apart from Blood Orange. ;) I'm joking..
But yeah, it's plain to see he didn't enter to win, as much as show off an AWESOME new bot. I think, anyway.Where do you get that from? I'm sorry if I want a fair chance in my own tournaments instead of just saying "here's my bot, build one to beat it".Avalanche is a troll, other tournament hosts shouldn't have to suffer because of him especially if they have hosted other tournaments.Avalanche has never been a troll. He was a n00b, but hasn't been for at least two years.
And here we go again with "I'm special 'cause my name is purple."
Good job contradicting yourself in a single post.
The rule is there to prevent abuse. The rules apply to everybody. Past tournament hosts won't get special treatment.
Conraaa won his tournament.
So the new host must show entry rule has caused myself to suggest a couple of new rules:
-The host can change/update their entry but must allow everyone else the option to change/update theirs and show the update/change in their topic before anyone else sends in their updates.
-The host is to post pictures of all entries as they receive them. (possibly in a constantly updated splash?)
I believe this clears up the update/change rule while allowing the host to be on more even grounds to everyone else.
Avalanche is a troll, other tournament hosts shouldn't have to suffer because of him especially if they have hosted other tournaments.
I get it from this.Avalanche is a troll, other tournament hosts shouldn't have to suffer because of him especially if they have hosted other tournaments.
Avalanche has been a contributor for the past two years if not longer. You're trying to say you're better than him and that rule shouldn't apply.
Then why is the host forced to show his entry when countering is so hard? I mean damn if you all want to be paranoid about the host cheating just think:
1. He could rig the brackets and give himself the best draw.
2. He could keep recording the matches until he wins.
With the above points I say all tournament hosts should be banned from entering their own tournaments.
Then why is the host forced to show his entry when countering is so hard? I mean damn if you all want to be paranoid about the host cheating just think:
1. He could rig the brackets and give himself the best draw.
2. He could keep recording the matches until he wins.
With the above points I say all tournament hosts should be banned from entering their own tournaments.
Because countering one bot is easier then countering many, so why have the rule? Give it time and you will see, as I said before it took many years for someone to abuse the "host seeing all other entries" cheat.Then why is the host forced to show his entry when countering is so hard? I mean damn if you all want to be paranoid about the host cheating just think:
1. He could rig the brackets and give himself the best draw.
2. He could keep recording the matches until he wins.
With the above points I say all tournament hosts should be banned from entering their own tournaments.
On the flip side, if countering is so hard, then why do you have a problem showing your robot off?
2. How is posting pics of the robots when you receive them even close to being fair? Whoever sends in their bot first is at a huge disadvantage.
if you ask nicely (saying PLEASE AND THANK YOU) i could slip you a copy of fraps off-siteplease and thank you
no like youre gonna have to contact me outside of the forum (skype or something) or through PM for fraps since im pretty sure its against the rules for me to post it on the forumif you ask nicely (saying PLEASE AND THANK YOU) i could slip you a copy of fraps off-siteplease and thank you
do you have steam
(skype or something) or through PM
um are there any good free video recording thing
help
im 12 going on 13 i dont know thatMy Messages -> Messages -> New Message -> Put Mr AwesumSauce in the To: box -> Put in a subject -> Ask nicely and don't make eye contact
Yeah these things aren't that big of deal tbh. Does it really change the tournament?
Your point of view. No, but it's my right to know, like I have the right to know the rules of the tournament.
It's amazing, Venko. All these things that no one has ever complained about you seem to hate with a burning passion.1. It's not a big deal for the host to post a short line with a info about the releasing of the bots in a AI pack...
Before I go any further, what is this evidence material you speak of? We're big boys, we can handle the truth.I'm complaining about your complain of my complain. We can go like this forever.
I will leave You to tickle your brain for now, then some day I will humiliate You with the truth.
The reason no one ever asks this in the initial tourney lines is because hardly anyone releases tourney ai packs! It's no good alienating people from a tourney over something that may never get made.
Most people don't care for this, so it's not THAT of an "alienating". And "your opinion sound like the majority" is your fantasy, I never said that.
Yes, I am complaining about your complaining. I'm of the opinion that "If it isn't broken, don't fix it". This community has been running tournaments just fine for years without incident. You, on the other hand, vanished for a fair while and now that you're back on the radar? It looks to me like you're trying to find some imaginary problem to complain about just so people don't forget you exist again. As a collective, if there is something we had all missed in the system, it would have been found a while ago.
*facepalm*, you're making assumptions again, this time even insulting me as an attention seeker. Not to mention that I can say the same for You, so it's kind of a pathetic argument. Most of all, You sound like You really don't have a clue why I want this rule...
And quite frankly, you asking tourney hosts to delete your robots off of their hard drives if the tourney doesn't go ahead (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=13107.msg577715#msg577715) could be seen as insulting to the tourney host. If you want to make sure that they don't pass off your work as their own? Showcase it! You're already trusting them to record fair matches and not rig the thing, so why can't you trust them with your .bot file?
Let's ask Ianh is he feel insulted in any way. This was only for this tournament, because the situation is different, and You make assumptions again. Proof of You speaking bullsh**s :
But since, I'll permanently leave the RA2 comunity, there is no point of hiding my secret stuff anymore (yeah, I had the bad habit of not showing my best stuff (both effective and art bots)). So, I may think of releasing a rar with all (this means a lot) my bot files (like the beetle bros do), if I have some spare time.Obviously I don't fear a stealing. Also, maybe the bots are already showcased (ask Iahn about this), but person that assume instead of work with facts can't know that. I trust Ianh, 'cos he understands my reasons, the thing that I don't trust is You understanding anything from what I post...
Before I go any further, what is this evidence material you speak of? We're big boys, we can handle the truth.Seriously man, stop acting like your intellectually superior, your not.
I will leave You to tickle your brain for now, then some day I will humiliate You with the truth.
The reason no one ever asks this in the initial tourney lines is because hardly anyone releases tourney ai packs! It's no good alienating people from a tourney over something that may never get made.
I'm with conraa on this tbh, if you don't want your bot to be in an AI pack you can just ask the creator to remove it and you say conraa has no reason to complain because he doesn't know your reasoning which for some reason seems to be either secret or you just don't have a reason at all and are just attention seeking.
Seriously man, stop acting like your intellectually superior, your not.Ohoo, brothers in roboteering helping each other... Call more minions...
I'm with conraa on this tbh, if you don't want your bot to be in an AI pack you can just ask the creator to remove it and you say conraa has no reason to complain because he doesn't know your reasoning which for some reason seems to be either secret or you just don't have a reason at all and are just attention seeking.
Yes insult my grammar to try and get a reaction, congratulations you've noticed a grammar mistake that an iPhone has corrected incorrectly. Also the fact that me and conraa are both roboteers has nothing to do with me agreeing with him, I agree just as much with Mr.AS and is he a roboteer? No. The attention seeking insults will indeed stop when you give your reasoning but until then they will keep coming because there is literally no point in keeping them secret other than the fact that you want attention.Seriously man, stop acting like your intellectually superior, your not.Ohoo, brothers in roboteering helping each other... Call more minions...
I'm with conraa on this tbh, if you don't want your bot to be in an AI pack you can just ask the creator to remove it and you say conraa has no reason to complain because he doesn't know your reasoning which for some reason seems to be either secret or you just don't have a reason at all and are just attention seeking.
Check your grammar before talking about an intelligence... I'm not a native english speaker and I don't (at least) mistake "you are" and "your"...
"Tournament hosts don't need to make a vote or to ask who is giving their bots, they just need to specify it in the begining" Did You read this before You posted?
I promise, I will tell him the reason, after he try some guesses.
But then what will happen to your "attention seeking" insults?
Yes insult my grammar to try and get a reaction, congratulations you've noticed a grammar mistake that an iPhone has corrected incorrectly. Also the fact that me and conraa are both roboteers has nothing to do with me agreeing with him, I agree just as much with Mr.AS and is he a roboteer? No. The attention seeking insults will indeed stop when you give your reasoning but until then they will keep coming because there is literally no point in keeping them secret other than the fact that you want attention.I admit, that the "grammar" card was a bad card, but how can I know about this, why You are using an autocorrect, can You type by yourself? Allowing the iPhone to mistake for You has the same guilty, as if You posted it. So take the consequences (I'm speaking theoretically). You can't agree with Mr. AS, since I prove him wrong, if You are following all posts. The attention seeking insults need to be punished if You ask me. If You, Conraa or anyone want the reason, then better start guessing, so far the "host stealing my bot" assumption is incorrect. Next try please...
Let me get this straight.
You're worried about somebody hosting a tournament, using the bots in it, posting videos etc etc.
Then you're worried about said person using your bot to win a different tournament by passing it off as their own.
Really? You don't think anybody who had seen the tournament before wouldn't point out that it was a carbon copy of a bot in it? People would notice this kind of thing. YOU would notice this kind of thing, and someone would point it out and then that person would probably be banned from hosting another.
I remember when this mountain was just a simple little molehill..
can you prove this by atleast posting the splash again? you've deleted it from the thread so gj thereLet me get this straight.
You're worried about somebody hosting a tournament, using the bots in it, posting videos etc etc.
Then you're worried about said person using your bot to win a different tournament by passing it off as their own.
Really? You don't think anybody who had seen the tournament before wouldn't point out that it was a carbon copy of a bot in it? People would notice this kind of thing. YOU would notice this kind of thing, and someone would point it out and then that person would probably be banned from hosting another.
I remember when this mountain was just a simple little molehill..
No one noticed Firework = Mini - Flaming Whizzer, well at least no one said anything IIRC.
My own bot (Mini - Flaming Whizzer) seems to have been used in my own tournament (Robo Zone 2) by another forum member (Jonzu) once before, now while I was OK with that (as I had 2 of my own bots entered instead of 1 lol) someone else could get upset about someone else stealing their work even though the bot has been showcased (like mine was) to try and win a tournament and get credit for the original builders work.
can you prove this by atleast posting the splash again? you've deleted it from the thread so gj thereLet me get this straight.
You're worried about somebody hosting a tournament, using the bots in it, posting videos etc etc.
Then you're worried about said person using your bot to win a different tournament by passing it off as their own.
Really? You don't think anybody who had seen the tournament before wouldn't point out that it was a carbon copy of a bot in it? People would notice this kind of thing. YOU would notice this kind of thing, and someone would point it out and then that person would probably be banned from hosting another.
I remember when this mountain was just a simple little molehill..
No one noticed Firework = Mini - Flaming Whizzer, well at least no one said anything IIRC.
LOL
I didn't know there is difference like that. :gawe:
Sure.LOL
I didn't know there is difference like that. :gawe:
Perhaps they should form a tag team in ACF and be called "the twins" or "Double Trouble".
can you prove this by atleast posting the splash again? you've deleted it from the thread so gj thereLet me get this straight.
You're worried about somebody hosting a tournament, using the bots in it, posting videos etc etc.
Then you're worried about said person using your bot to win a different tournament by passing it off as their own.
Really? You don't think anybody who had seen the tournament before wouldn't point out that it was a carbon copy of a bot in it? People would notice this kind of thing. YOU would notice this kind of thing, and someone would point it out and then that person would probably be banned from hosting another.
I remember when this mountain was just a simple little molehill..
No one noticed Firework = Mini - Flaming Whizzer, well at least no one said anything IIRC.
Oh look who's being a jerk now, keep it up and you're bound to annoy people enough to delete their work they've done (again) for said jerks. Just be nice, it's not that hard. first off, why would what i have said want people to delete their stuff? and then why did you delete the splash in the first place? infact why did you delete the whole op? you're not helping by deleting evidence that i could've seen and said you were right about him copying your design.
here ya go:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/5204Comparison.jpg)
Venko doesn't want people stealing his bots and/or cloning them, I mean if clickbeetle asked for that everyone would respect his request wouldn't they? if he gives a reason then yes, i doubt many people would listen to anybody who doesnt give a valid reason.
I bet if Venko or I used someone else's bot of the botexchange people would cry about it. this is a really bad example. if venko or you used someone's actual bot from the bot exchange, im sure people would know and point it out, as was said before. if you have a problem with cloning your bot and entering it, im sure nobody else has that problem. i sure didnt in naryars tournament. plus you can later call them out on it and everyone will still know it was your original idea (if it actually was though)
...I mean if clickbeetle asked for that everyone would respect his request wouldn't they?...The biggest truth, that I read after my comeback. This hypocrites would instantly agree, if he asks.
...by saying your bots are too good for us...Now the truth. What I fear is not the host stealing my bots, or people cloning them by pics. The thing I'm worried is the direct stealing of the bot file from the AI pack after the tournament from a good builder by a lame builder (mostly in stock where not all people can stack that good). Imagine this theoretical situation : You spend hours and hours to do some uber stacking (MidF for example, 2 blacks + CB, 2 stacked snappers, all this in a perfectly small chassis) then You submit it for a tournament. The tournament is over, the AI pack is released without your knowledge, and then someone instead of cloning this bot by pic, used directly your bot file or with insignificant modifications and enter the next tournament and win it. You worked on it for hours, he have it for 5 sec. Some people don't care if someone will find out, as long as they win. If You don't find this disturbing, You are either a pathetic builder or stupid? This simple line I posted on the upper lines, will eliminate this with an ease. I'm still fighting for this, as long as I'm entering tournaments, when I stop enter tournaments and release all my bots they can do whatever they want. I don't build for hours just someone to steal mine or someone else work for a seconds. Instead, I get "attention seeker", "arrogant ass" and so...
I never said that, it's You posting an opinion...
...if you are REALLY that bothered about it, just put that line in your pm or however you send your bots...
I don't want this, no need, just a info in the OP is enough.
This small thing, that was supposed to be not a big deal, went too far (thanks to some people). I'm putting an end to this......I mean if clickbeetle asked for that everyone would respect his request wouldn't they?...The biggest truth, that I read after my comeback. This hypocrites would instantly agree, if he asks.
First of all, I don't want this rule for me, I want it to protect all the good builders, so if someone is against it, maybe he want to do that kind of stealing stuff...
"The bots involved in this tournament will be included in an AI pack."
Look how simple and fast to achieve is. It will not force the people to not enter, they will just know and that's it....by saying your bots are too good for us...Now the truth. What I fear is not the host stealing my bots, or people cloning them by pics. The thing I'm worried is the direct stealing of the bot file from the AI pack after the tournament from a good builder by a lame builder (mostly in stock where not all people can stack that good). Imagine this theoretical situation : You spend hours and hours to do some uber stacking (MidF for example, 2 blacks + CB, 2 stacked snappers, all this in a perfectly small chassis) then You submit it for a tournament. The tournament is over, the AI pack is released without your knowledge, and then someone instead of cloning this bot by pic, used directly your bot file or with insignificant modifications and enter the next tournament and win it. You worked on it for hours, he have it for 5 sec. Some people don't care if someone will find out, as long as they win. If You don't find this disturbing, You are either a pathetic builder or stupid? This simple line I posted on the upper lines, will eliminate this with an ease. I'm still fighting for this, as long as I'm entering tournaments, when I stop enter tournaments and release all my bots they can do whatever they want. I don't build for hours just someone to steal mine or someone else work for a seconds. Instead, I get "attention seeker", "arrogant ass" and so...
I never said that, it's You posting an opinion...
...if you are REALLY that bothered about it, just put that line in your pm or however you send your bots...
I don't want this, no need, just a info in the OP is enough.
I didn't know that this kind of stuff actually happened to Ianh. So we have the first case of this.
Also, when I made a damn good bot, and after testing it, I found that it's extremly good, of course I wouldn't show it to the most people, but keep it for ownage. And I have some of these, most stock builders don't innovate, just copy+paste.
Ianh05 is way smarter than You, if You ask me... And You look like a trolls to me, that don't have anything better to do than grudge for nothing and trolling people.
...if you are REALLY that bothered about it, just put that line in your pm or however you send your bots...
I don't want this, no need, just a info in the OP is enough.
Many tournaments have a rule like "all entries become the sole property of <whomever>" in them but that wouldn't work well for RA2 tournaments because of the ease of copying someone else's work. However, I like to think that the host can do whatever they would like with the bots that participated in their tournament (it had to take place) as long as they are not claiming them as their own. The fact that your bot was seen on video from multiple angles already gives people enough information to make copies of it. Anything that people find interesting regardless of whether it is big or small is likely to be copied and that will not change (we are not going to go down the same road as the U.S. patent system). If people take inspiration for something, we should not be limiting them.
We don't discuss a cloning from a pic here, we are discussing the direct use of the bot file from a GTM member that downloaded the AI pack after the release.
Also the argument that if Click said it, this wouldn't stir anything up is invalid. I and others have disagreed with both ACAMS, Clickbeetle, and JoeBlo before with very little hesitation. The 1.31 and 1.4 patches are prime examples of me taking the opposite side of all three of them.
Yes, but You are not from that hypocrites I mentioned above ;)
This is all just my opinion though so feel free to continue debating this if you so choose.
Wait, so you don't want this, and it's seemingly evident not many other people are keen on it?Ditch the bad habit of speaking from the name of the community at first. And yes, I don't want to send a PM to the host, I want this in the OP:
No, I don't think I'll do that. I mean jeez, it's just a game. We aren't ruining anyone's career with this.Yes, but a short line of text in the OP isn't ruining anyone's career too. Right?
You say you don't want to have to PM the host, but how else are you gonna get the bot to them?I don't want this for myself only, I'm leaving this place soon, so all your grudges against me are kinda pointless and childish... You, the new members gang, You are not telling me what to be my opinion.
I'm sending the bots by PM, I don't want to send a permissions, a line of text in the OP is enough.
Dude between this and BoTM you are making yourself look like a gigantic (expletive). I would stop now and save whatever respect people have left for you.
Hahaha, I don't seek respect at all dude, I'm simply just posting my point of view and some people take all this too far (look at the shortness of my first posts on the problems). Also, there is no point, because the forum is full with gigantic (expletive)s that gang me up as Ianh said and they will never be OK with whatever I do. Don't You find a coincidence that all member that grudge me are mostly a new members that joined after I left and don't know me? I'm just Venko, I post bots and opinions, some like them some not and that's it.
...limiting the flow of bots between builders...? WTF ?
I don't want to have the pressure of something like this. Maybe the pack never gets released (RIWAI) or maybe the host just thinks the bots should be released to the comunity (RIP AI, at least I think).I can't understand what You are trying to say. Can You be more clear and specific? I don't have problems with your posts and opinions.
Also, in stock it's harder to follow who steals, since stock don't have that big community as the DSL.
You'd probably need a new arena for that. Also I had another simple new idea:
Red vs Blue - 2 randomly generated teams, each member creates a different weight class for both stock and DSL. For this tournament you could feature every single weight class put forward including fleaweights (100kgs or less), featherweights (175.1-200kgs), cruiserweights (400-600kgs) and ultra-heavyweights (1200-3000kgs).
Just imagine 2 teams made up of the following...
Stock:
Fleaweight (FLW)
AW
BW
Featherweight (FW)
LW
MW
Cruiserweight (CW)
HW
SHW
UHW
DSL:
Fleaweight (FLW)
AW
BW
Featherweight (FW)
LW
MW
Cruiserweight (CW)
HW
SHW
UHW
so it would be best of 20 and up to around 40 entries unless a special decider is needed which would consist of a new unofficial weight class (249.1-300kgs or 601-700kgs for example). 40 entries might not be hard to achieve seeing as it combines both stock and DSL.
I'd personally ditch fleaweights as there's not much you can do with them. (You've already created everything possible in about 20 bots) Plus it'd bring it down to 9 classes, meaning that there couldn't be a tie.
What about a SHW DSL tourney with no realistic rule.To quote Dr. Evil:
I am Dr.EvilWhat about a SHW DSL tourney with no realistic rule.To quote Dr. Evil:
HOW 'BOUT NO?
So we have IRL tournaments already, but what about an even more realistic tournament that mimics real life competitions? I can't be the only one that gets fed up seeing a robot get the crap beaten out of it in a semi-final match and only beat its opponent on a technicality, then go on to dominate the grand final seemingly unscathed from its previous fight. If your robot takes a lot of damage, then expect it to continue damaged with minor repairs in later stages. Same goes for the arena. If someone breaks a pulverizer or a killsaw, then it won't be functional for the next couple of matches. As saws, hammers, and other things pound on the arena floor, dents and scratches will start to appear on the surface.
I could do this, only problem is I suck balls at AI'ing and as it stands, nobody wants another IRL competition until 2015 at the earliest.
Is taking pictures for a tourney good enough?
Someone should make a Stock IRL tourney.stock and irl are two very very opposite things. practically nobody builds stock IRL anymore anyway.
That's really cool. Exactly why there should be another one.Someone should make a Stock IRL tourney.stock and irl are two very very opposite things. practically nobody builds stock IRL anymore anyway.
if you are really interested in stock irl, check out one of jonzu's tourneys called "robot wars series 8" or something along those lines. some IRL stock designs in there.
practically nobody builds stock IRL anymore anyway.
When you host a tournament, can you choose to not enter yourself and just let everyone else be able to enter? I'd like to make a DSL-S tourney and maybe a Stock one too just to shut all the complainers up about how every tournament nowadays is IRL only.
When you host a tournament, can you choose to not enter yourself and just let everyone else be able to enter? I'd like to make a DSL-S tourney and maybe a Stock one too just to shut all the complainers up about how every tournament nowadays is IRL only.
can someone link me to a screen recorder that works well with RA2?
what about an only walkers tournament?
that would be odd
Id be interested.what about an only walkers tournament?
that would be odd
Wouldn't be enough interest.
You can barely build a wheeled robot.Id be interested.what about an only walkers tournament?
that would be odd
Wouldn't be enough interest.
lel so funny master trole lelelel xDDDDDDDDDYou can barely build a wheeled robot.Id be interested.what about an only walkers tournament?
that would be odd
Wouldn't be enough interest.
Id be interested.You can barely build a wheeled robot.
I wasn't kidding though.lel so funny master trole lelelel xDDDDDDDDDYou can barely build a wheeled robot.Id be interested.what about an only walkers tournament?
that would be odd
Wouldn't be enough interest.
i built a decent stock robotI wasn't kidding though.lel so funny master trole lelelel xDDDDDDDDDYou can barely build a wheeled robot.Id be interested.what about an only walkers tournament?
that would be odd
Wouldn't be enough interest.
Stop.k
Guys, im thinking about doing a tourney, but my AI skills are limited to a bot name swap in the bindings with the same bot type, and a smart zone placement. I also have my last term within school soon, and basically will not have the time to perform this tournament. I would like to TRY, but unless everyone is ok with sh**tier AI than stock within DSL 3. Oh, and i can change the nose value to make it work.I kinda like the idea.
Idea for tournament is here:
16 People. 4 matches of 4 people. The 4th placed person goes into Delta Bracket, 3rd - Gamma Bracket, 2nd, Beta bracket, 1st goes into Alpha.
This effectively sets the difficulty of each of the brackets, creating massive battles, and much smaller matches.
Top 2 go through to Epsilon Bracket. It is a standard Double Elimination bracket.
Main Rules: DSL CW IRL. Cheatbot2 can only be allowed for Judge Bursts, and Lifter Motors.
You may use replica cheatbot2 parts, but you may have to have your bot exposed to public to decide if the use is fair or not.
tryhard IRL bots.I don't get what this means.
bots made to win and not to look irltryhard IRL bots.I don't get what this means.
Yeah, this and generic bots with high damage weapons (i.e Bar HS with beaters & small ds teeth, Flipper with beater spam, any IRL bot with DSL-S style wedges)bots made to win and not to look irltryhard IRL bots.I don't get what this means.
bots on the verge of being dsl-s
Ugh more irl... we need more stock tournaments!
I really like that. It gives noobs and artbots a chance to do well and weeds out tryhard IRL bots.You do realize it would just be who spams the most DSL Bars then right?
i dont like artbots though because they can be designed under the rule of cool
meaning some artbots dont look realistic
no i dont like artbots in tournaments is alli dont like artbots though because they can be designed under the rule of cool
meaning some artbots dont look realistic
Lolwat, you don't like artbots because they look cool?
Besides if an artbot isn't 'realistic' it shouldn't be allowed into 'realistic' tournaments, and is a showcase only type deal.
no i dont like artbots in tournaments is alli dont like artbots though because they can be designed under the rule of cool
meaning some artbots dont look realistic
Lolwat, you don't like artbots because they look cool?
Besides if an artbot isn't 'realistic' it shouldn't be allowed into 'realistic' tournaments, and is a showcase only type deal.
some artbots couldnt be built in real life so they shouldnt be allowed in irl tournaments
So you're freely admitting to entering IRL tournaments, where the main goal is to make bots that look true to real life, with the intention of making them as efficient as possible to win? :P Because I think a good IRL bot is an artbot.no
But you said you don't like artbots at all, when you clearly like IRL? I am too confused for this.artbots are fine
IRL really isn't competitive. It's all about making your bot look cool and having some fun.But you said you don't like artbots at all, when you clearly like IRL? I am too confused for this.i have a problem with irl tournaments just revolving around make your robot look cool
while that is important an attempt to win is good
yes but they have tournaments for a reasonIRL really isn't competitive. It's all about making your bot look cool and having some fun.But you said you don't like artbots at all, when you clearly like IRL? I am too confused for this.i have a problem with irl tournaments just revolving around make your robot look cool
while that is important an attempt to win is good
I'm very much with Helloface on this one, always have. I mean you think bots like Diotoir, Granny's Revenge, Mighty Mouse etc were entered with the intention of winning? I'm 90% sure most bots were made and entered for the fun of it, because at the end of the day you'll always end up coming up against a Chaos 2, Hypnodisc or Razer (for example) which are obviously just better engineered.
IRL is a fun time to make something fun and nice looking. If you want to make a killer bot play Standard. That's my opinion anyway.
you're right jokebots are made for fun nemisis and diotoir are literally flammable
the bots can look so similar as to almost bore me
i both love and hate you martyyou're right jokebots are made for fun nemisis and diotoir are literally flammable
the bots can look so similar as to almost bore me
IRL in a nutshell.
Small bracket. There's really nothing wrong with that though.i know was just curious
Since I've got dsl2 working on this pc now anyone got any ideas for tournaments they'd like to see?Something like the RA2 World Cup, god I enjoyed that
I honestly think IRL should just be about cool looks and there. As long as it's cool enough and there's no "trying too hard to be DSL-S" factor in a bot, it should be allowed. Good IRL tournament should be impressing you with every entry.i agree, except this
Who gives a rat's ass if it is not 100% realistic or be 100% in accord with real life designs ? Sure it should look realistic, but the most important in an IRL bot is all of the three following factors: originality, good looks and interesting designs.
I honestly think IRL should just be about cool looks and there. As long as it's cool enough and there's no "trying too hard to be DSL-S" factor in a bot, it should be allowed. Good IRL tournament should be impressing you with every entry.i agree, except this
Who gives a rat's ass if it is not 100% realistic or be 100% in accord with real life designs ? Sure it should look realistic, but the most important in an IRL bot is all of the three following factors: originality, good looks and interesting designs.
>Who gives a rat's ass if it is not 100% realistic or be 100% in accord with real life designs?
its called in real life for a reason
Since I've got dsl2 working on this pc now anyone got any ideas for tournaments they'd like to see?Tournament with spinning weapons outlawed
maybe not completely split, but maybe people could specify the level of irl needed in the signups thread?people preety much do that already
Or we should divide IRL in two, in one "artbot building" which describes what I am saying and the other "IRL" (In Real Life) which describe hardliner IRL which tries to get as close as real life designs as possible. The latter category includes replicas.
Since I've got dsl2 working on this pc now anyone got any ideas for tournaments they'd like to see?Tournament with spinning weapons outlawed
then call itSince I've got dsl2 working on this pc now anyone got any ideas for tournaments they'd like to see?Tournament with spinning weapons outlawed
Yes do it my flippers been feeling left out.
then call itSince I've got dsl2 working on this pc now anyone got any ideas for tournaments they'd like to see?Tournament with spinning weapons outlawed
Yes do it my flippers been feeling left out.
NO SPIN FOR YOU!
Well gee, I hope you like popups then.Since I've got dsl2 working on this pc now anyone got any ideas for tournaments they'd like to see?Tournament with spinning weapons outlawed
Since I've got dsl2 working on this pc now anyone got any ideas for tournaments they'd like to see?A replica tournament!
then call itSince I've got dsl2 working on this pc now anyone got any ideas for tournaments they'd like to see?Tournament with spinning weapons outlawed
Yes do it my flippers been feeling left out.
NO SPIN FOR YOU!
Back to the roots
Stock MW simple double elimination. Haven't played stock in a long time so running a stock tourney will definitely be interesting and tons of fun.
I'd like to see this one.
The Great Round Robin
DSL MW (or LW) Standard. It's all in the name. 16 bots each plays against each other once each, and the top 4 at the top of the standings move to the single elimination playoffs. (Maybe top 6 with the first two seeds earning a bye)
Good luck if you want to do a round robin like that with 16 entries in 3 months - it's 120 matches for a 16-way round robin.Don't underestimate me ;)
True, maybe I should wait on that round robin idea until I become a Major League host after this next one.How about stock IRL.
How about stock IRL.What is even the point of this.
To make it more challenging.How about stock IRL.What is even the point of this.
Why even use stock to build IRL when you have DSL full of so many more parts?
I like it but I don't think too many other people would...It'd probably be more suited for poeple that aren't as good at stock, like me, or the new users that pop up every now and then.
Here's what I use:Thanks dude! :mrgreen:
http://www.bandicam.com/downloads/ing/ (http://www.bandicam.com/downloads/ing/)
Good luck.
There's a compilation of it on youtube which has a download link for it all in the description.Ok, could somebody provide me with the link?
You could just search for it yourself...I have, nothing comes up
Anybody know where I can get music from robot wars so I can play it during recorded matchesDownload: http://www.sendspace.com/file/54cbkd (http://www.sendspace.com/file/54cbkd)
Thanks a lot! :smile:Anybody know where I can get music from robot wars so I can play it during recorded matchesDownload: http://www.sendspace.com/file/54cbkd (http://www.sendspace.com/file/54cbkd)
YouTube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrSEJYnYQDo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrSEJYnYQDo)
No problem.Thanks a lot! :smile:Anybody know where I can get music from robot wars so I can play it during recorded matchesDownload: http://www.sendspace.com/file/54cbkd (http://www.sendspace.com/file/54cbkd)
YouTube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrSEJYnYQDo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrSEJYnYQDo)
Sooo... now that I've got some recording software and youtube, who fancies a dsl-s tournament:
Middleweight
16 entries
first two rounds will be on the tabletop arena, then the next two in the combat arena (Mixture of both speed and combat ability)
standard dsl-s rules,
thoughts/interested/ any improvements?
I think I'm going to do a stock and IRL version of this, who else likes it?Sooo... now that I've got some recording software and youtube, who fancies a dsl-s tournament:
Middleweight
16 entries
first two rounds will be on the tabletop arena, then the next two in the combat arena (Mixture of both speed and combat ability)
standard dsl-s rules,
thoughts/interested/ any improvements?
I like the idea, but it might work better as a stock tournament.
Seeing as how I have the perfect bot for it, sure.what one?
DSL-SOk 1 vote for DSL - S version
There should be a stock SHW tournament
How about a replica tournament?There's not really a point tbh IMO
Well, we're all entitled to our own opinions, so here's mine:How about a replica tournament?There's not really a point tbh IMO
I might enter if you hosted oneIf I could get my recording software to work, and figure out some other stuff, I'll do it.
If it's about making the best replica why not make a Contest rather than Tournament?^
That way everyone can vote for the best and that's that :P
If you completely disagree, may I hear your reasons?which is why you set a quality limit
Replica tournaments have been run before but the winners are rarely fair because it basically comes down to whoever optimizes their bot best for ra2, which generally means being less faithful to the original.
lol setting a quality limit ? now we must build sh!tty bots on purpose ? whatno ,
oh, wait, IRL
lol setting a quality limit ? now we must build sh!tty bots on purpose ? whatno ,
oh, wait, IRL
I mean high quality replicas
meaning people who build a replica to win the tournament and make a low quality replica because of it cant enter
for example
make a tornado(season 4) rep
make a red box but razors on the front
rejected
but a skin on it and make it look like the actual tornado over making it be effective
accepted
This is the thing, the last replica tournaments I recall (Replica Wars) were before IRL was even a thing - and since then people have been striving to push the limits on what they can get away with. It wouldn't be about making a decent replica. Even if you put checks on stuff, things like Shield described will still happen.What if everyone had to enter 2 replicas?
That defeats the point of the replica surely? Replicating means recreating exactly, not recreating but boosting some bits.The fighting part does help demonstrate the functionally of the replica however, replicas that are built just for show may not even function like the actually robot too.
I really want to host a tournament, but I can't film anything.i use microsoft expressions encoder
Can someone help?
What I meant was could someone film for me?I really want to host a tournament, but I can't film anything.i use microsoft expressions encoder
Can someone help?
because its free version doesnt have a water mark like bandicam
I'll volunteer, the only problem is YouTube won't upload movie maker videos :realmad(What I meant was could someone film for me?I really want to host a tournament, but I can't film anything.i use microsoft expressions encoder
Can someone help?
because its free version doesnt have a water mark like bandicam
I'll volunteer...:dance:
...the only problem is YouTube won't upload movie maker videos :realmad(:FFFUUU
I could use bandicut, but then the only problem is I can't edit itI'll volunteer...:dance:...the only problem is YouTube won't upload movie maker videos :realmad(:FFFUUU
I'll volunteer, the only problem is YouTube won't upload movie maker videos :realmad(Uh plenty of people here edit their videos in Windows Movie Maker, are you not rendering your video or something?
Youtube won't upload movie maker project files, if you save your movie as a wmv file or something it'll work fine.That's the thing, it won't allow me to save them as wmv, avi etc
(http://i.imgur.com/EMQ7q9O.png)Youtube won't upload movie maker project files, if you save your movie as a wmv file or something it'll work fine.That's the thing, it won't allow me to save them as wmv, avi etc
I use windows 8 and it doesn't come up with thatJust download movie maker 2.6
Ok, thanksI use windows 8 and it doesn't come up with thatJust download movie maker 2.6
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34 (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34)
2: FullbodyeverythingSounds good
(A tourney where the chassis has to be a mainpart of the robots weapon)
I have some good ideas but unfortunately i can't realize them.. and even if i could it would probably fail, like pretty much everything i'm trying to do here....
Law of the Strongest:
DSL-S HW tourney, flails and popups are banned, you can only win a match by KO, so point of the tourney is survival, as round advances, there will be more bots fighting, first 2 round will be 1vs1, 2 next would be 3-way and last 2 and finals would be 4-way, brackets for this may be quite akward and complicated, but i'm pretty sure it's doable
1: Total Annihilation: Judgement Day
(Stock SHW... for you nary :P)
I have some good ideas but unfortunately i can't realize them.. and even if i could it would probably fail, like pretty much everything i'm trying to do here....
Law of the Strongest:
DSL-S HW tourney, flails and popups are banned, you can only win a match by KO, so point of the tourney is survival, as round advances, there will be more bots fighting, first 2 round will be 1vs1, 2 next would be 3-way and last 2 and finals would be 4-way, brackets for this may be quite akward and complicated, but i'm pretty sure it's doable
That looks like it would be an interesting tournament. I would certainly enter it.
Besides, you call yourself a manly warrior and yet you flee before a tournament ?
Has anyone tried to do anything with hovering robots, or is the hoverpad component too unpredictable/slow to do anything with?
Yoda did a hover tourney a while back, went down pretty well. Forgot who won.nicsan won it
Yoda did a hover tourney a while back, went down pretty well. Forgot who won.t'was Nicsan I believe
Yoda did a hover tourney a while back, went down pretty well. Forgot who won.That would be me ;)
Has anyone tried to do anything with hovering robots, or is the hoverpad component too unpredictable/slow to do anything with?
lol aerodactyl
1. Do the names of these bots have to stay the same or can they have names in a style like how Pokemon evolve? Like Bulbasaur -> Ivysaur -> Venusaur and others.flibble
I dunno yet, maybe yes maybe no.
2. Can these bots have different weapons as long as they stay to the original design? Like a LW bar weapon then a MW Tribar weapon etc.
Yes, but I will be checking each to make sure they don't stray too far away from the previous robot.
3. Can these bots have an additional amount of the same weapons as they evolve? Like a CW with one flipper then a HW with two flippers?
Yep.
ill enter please dont make it dsl-s they take forever to fill and imo are'nt as fun to builddont listen to this philistine
hmm actual racism cant be surprised, i said in my opinionill enter please dont make it dsl-s they take forever to fill and imo are'nt as fun to builddont listen to this philistine
What the hell makes you think I would listen to him?ill enter please dont make it dsl-s they take forever to fill and imo are'nt as fun to builddont listen to this philistine
Here is yet another idea, feel free to make a tourney out of that, i can't make them myself anyway, for one simple reason, i can't use Fraps due to not having the admin password, here now you know why all the tourneys i tried have failed, i tried with Camstudio, but the result is terribly glitched, anyway here s'the idea:So basically BattleBots but not IRL :dumb)
Artemis Robot Championship
DSL-S with 4 weightclasses: LW,MW,HW and SHW, no flails or popups, single elimination, havok restarts, fights are in the Battlebox, walkers have a 400kg bonus, but only if those 400kg are spend in the walking system, infinite entries until deadline is reached, there, feel free to take this, and all my other ideas for your own tourneys
Yep simple single eliminationOops, I was actually just suggesting a name
Wow now I feel dumb haha thanks for all the suggestions though you guys.Yep simple single eliminationOops, I was actually just suggesting a name
I would like to make a interest check for the next Mutations tournament.
I was thinking DSL SHW triple hybrid, but maybe you guys want some different style of hybrid ?
I also intend to go from DSL SHW to LW, nothing lower cuz it's pointless. Maybe we should branch off into Stock as well.
Make it Stock.
Make it Stock.
Make it Stock.
Nobody's going to enter if you make it triple hybrid.
Nobody's going to enter if you make it triple hybrid.
really because i remember people building triple hybrid SHW's for the original mutations... at least two or three.
And I certainly will not make a triple hybrid tournament anything less than HW, because it's pointless.
Apparently people want to have a stock hybrid tournament, well alright.
We'll have to see the weightclass though.
antweightShut up.
So I have a few ideas (all for after TLOS:SE)I don't think that the Dwarven Ironforge ideas would get you many entries considering the weapon type you're supposed to use for it.
The last one standing, The Real thing!: IRL version of the last one standing
The last one standing, DSL-S edition : DSL-S version of TLOS
The dwarven iron forges: IRL iron forge, you are only allowed to build an axe or a hammer robot. 32 entries all in the bbeans v.2 arena
The dwarven iron forges; Take arms: same thing, but in stock
The dwarven iron forges; more than standard: same thing but in DSL-S
Like em?
I like the IRL Ironforge one.Me too. :mrgreen:
So my plans are to host the remaining T.L.O.S's then go on to the ironforge ones, sound good?Yeah, That works.
For the second idea (if you end up doing it), I think you should use Wham's AW version of the Official RA2 Tournament Arena.I was thinking of using that arena. I just want to know If Wham would be cool with me using it.
So is this the battle format for TOT?Pretty much, but you choose what order they go in. Kinda like Minor Inconveniences in a way.
My Bot 1 VS Your Bot 1
My Bot 2 VS Your Bot 2
My Bot 3 VS Your Bot 3
As long as you don't put Shadow the Hedgehog music over the matches again I'm gameAlright then, deal. I don't know why I used that awful soundtrack anyway. I was thinking of putting the music from MMX into the matches, but what music would you prefer in the matches?
Debating on whether or not I should host another HW IRL tournament in one of I Like Tacos' arenas, with a side of a sportsman type weight class. Maybe even a beyblade type thing could be funny. I should have the time to finish now that I'm a major league host and I could put more effort into it.
Debating on whether or not I should host another HW IRL tournament in one of I Like Tacos' arenas, with a side of a sportsman type weight class. Maybe even a beyblade type thing could be funny. I should have the time to finish now that I'm a major league host and I could put more effort into it.
You shouldn't host any more tournaments.
Debating on whether or not I should host another HW IRL tournament in one of I Like Tacos' arenas, with a side of a sportsman type weight class. Maybe even a beyblade type thing could be funny. I should have the time to finish now that I'm a major league host and I could put more effort into it.
You shouldn't host any more tournaments.
Nice quality post, Andrew. Anything more intelligent you want to share ?
I agree with Andy here he did just abandon it, he didnt abandon it as long as KOS has but stillDebating on whether or not I should host another HW IRL tournament in one of I Like Tacos' arenas, with a side of a sportsman type weight class. Maybe even a beyblade type thing could be funny. I should have the time to finish now that I'm a major league host and I could put more effort into it.
You shouldn't host any more tournaments.
Nice quality post, Andrew. Anything more intelligent you want to share ?
It was a serious post. He put off his last tournament to the absolute last minute because he had lost interest.
I lost instrest because...Debating on whether or not I should host another HW IRL tournament in one of I Like Tacos' arenas, with a side of a sportsman type weight class. Maybe even a beyblade type thing could be funny. I should have the time to finish now that I'm a major league host and I could put more effort into it.
You shouldn't host any more tournaments.
Nice quality post, Andrew. Anything more intelligent you want to share ?
It was a serious post. He put off his last tournament to the absolute last minute because he had lost interest.
are we allowed to use dsl 3.0 beta for our tournaments?Why wouldn't you be able to?
Also craaaaaig pls move first strike to completed and give mai host point k thanks bye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFDIufwRWDA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFDIufwRWDA#)Average Welsh accent
Any sorts of tournaments people would like to see in future? Contemplating running something over the next month or so.AWS - style tournament?
So, any interest for Not Quite Chinese Whisper Replica Wars?Another Chinese Whispers would be pretty cool.
So, any interest for Not Quite Chinese Whisper Replica Wars?Are you making a combination for it? Go right ahead.
if you make another chinese whispers ill so enterthis
Combine Funny Meme tournaments 1 & 2. It'll be hilarious.I second this.
I'd make everyone use the same chassis btw to eliminate unfair starts
if the entire goal is to survive as the LW, wouldn't everyone just coat the thing in casters and make it an indestructible brick?
Good points. Nevermind that, then.I mean if an irl rule was attached it could be good but without that it would be awful
Would anyone be interested in a Scrapheap Challenge (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=16910.0) in Stock or Ironforge? Or would that be stepping on Kurt's toes too much?Stock LW would probably work best if someone is doing a Stock version at some point. Even you dude. Ironforge may be harder since it has fewer components to work with.
I'd ask Kurt if he has any plans to do any more Scrapheap Challenge tournaments and go from there.I, as usual, am waiting until the very last moment to send in my entry in case I think of anything better.
I'd probably be interested though.
Also people send in your stuff for Pot Luck 2. Please.
I was planning on doing another one of them actually.
Alright, since people seem to not be into the wacky gimmick ideas, but I'd like to host something, I'll go with aboringregular double elimination kinda deal. I was thinking about LW Stock or Ironforge, since I haven't seen those floating around recently. Any opinions?
the problem is if you are working in stock on irl why wouldn't you be in dsl working on irl since it just has more parts.Alright, since people seem to not be into the wacky gimmick ideas, but I'd like to host something, I'll go with aboringregular double elimination kinda deal. I was thinking about LW Stock or Ironforge, since I haven't seen those floating around recently. Any opinions?
What about...
...stock IRL.
I know, it sounds dumb, but I've made some pretty good looking ones. I'm pretty sure the more talented builders could do the same.
Because nobody has done it before, and it requires more creativity. Think of it as the main challenge of the tourney.the problem is if you are working in stock on irl why wouldn't you be in dsl working on irl since it just has more parts.Alright, since people seem to not be into the wacky gimmick ideas, but I'd like to host something, I'll go with aboringregular double elimination kinda deal. I was thinking about LW Stock or Ironforge, since I haven't seen those floating around recently. Any opinions?
What about...
...stock IRL.
I know, it sounds dumb, but I've made some pretty good looking ones. I'm pretty sure the more talented builders could do the same.
sorry but it's been done, albeit not for a little while (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=9496.0)Because nobody has done it before, and it requires more creativity. Think of it as the main challenge of the tourney.the problem is if you are working in stock on irl why wouldn't you be in dsl working on irl since it just has more parts.Alright, since people seem to not be into the wacky gimmick ideas, but I'd like to host something, I'll go with aboringregular double elimination kinda deal. I was thinking about LW Stock or Ironforge, since I haven't seen those floating around recently. Any opinions?
What about...
...stock IRL.
I know, it sounds dumb, but I've made some pretty good looking ones. I'm pretty sure the more talented builders could do the same.
sorry but it's been done, albeit not for a little while (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=9496.0)Because nobody has done it before, and it requires more creativity. Think of it as the main challenge of the tourney.the problem is if you are working in stock on irl why wouldn't you be in dsl working on irl since it just has more parts.Alright, since people seem to not be into the wacky gimmick ideas, but I'd like to host something, I'll go with aboringregular double elimination kinda deal. I was thinking about LW Stock or Ironforge, since I haven't seen those floating around recently. Any opinions?
What about...
...stock IRL.
I know, it sounds dumb, but I've made some pretty good looking ones. I'm pretty sure the more talented builders could do the same.
looking back, i feel like the concept and especially execution of the idea was pretty pathetic. i don't have any inspiration to make any more replicas anywaysorry but it's been done, albeit not for a little while (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=9496.0)Because nobody has done it before, and it requires more creativity. Think of it as the main challenge of the tourney.the problem is if you are working in stock on irl why wouldn't you be in dsl working on irl since it just has more parts.Alright, since people seem to not be into the wacky gimmick ideas, but I'd like to host something, I'll go with aboringregular double elimination kinda deal. I was thinking about LW Stock or Ironforge, since I haven't seen those floating around recently. Any opinions?
What about...
...stock IRL.
I know, it sounds dumb, but I've made some pretty good looking ones. I'm pretty sure the more talented builders could do the same.
Would this be a bad time to bring up Strict BB SHW? I know it was cancelled, but...
...well, why?
i always wanted to see a rumble of crawlers in a bouncy arena... crawler tournament?for me it would depend on dsl or stock
if it was dsl it should be unrealistic to allow diversity (there´s diversity in crawlers, dont look at me like that)i always wanted to see a rumble of crawlers in a bouncy arena... crawler tournament?for me it would depend on dsl or stock
I would love to see a crawler tournament, but i dont have the skillz to host itI'd imagine that would be quite boring, unless you made it unique and/or gave the tournament a twist.
Also, you should probably tell Craaig that D5 is done so you can go on with this.
Putting the feelers out for NQRW: Robot Wars mod edition.If the components are doable to work with in the update, then, yeah. I'd be down.
Would of course wait for the new update.
Yeah, I'll do some testing.Putting the feelers out for NQRW: Robot Wars mod edition.If the components are doable to work with in the update, then, yeah. I'd be down.
Would of course wait for the new update.
Congrats, yugitom. I'm excited to work with you.Back at ya :)
Gratz yugi. I think you are the perfect candidate for this task.Thanks, mate :)
Would anyone be interested in a small (8 player) standard IF tournament? Probably HW, BO3 double elim. I feel there aren't enough standard tournaments these days.definitely
^ ThisWould anyone be interested in a small (8 player) standard IF tournament? Probably HW, BO3 double elim. I feel there aren't enough standard tournaments these days.definitely
Anyone remember the name of that DSL tournament years ago that forced everyone to use the same chassis, except you could move 1 component? Not clash cubes. Thinking of doing an IF version of that after my current tournament is finished, providing I can get the blessing of the creator.that was nar's one tourney, you had a prebuilt chassis with like 3 ants and a couple multi extenders on it
I never check the bot file myself. I know I should check for super strong armour but that should be obvious when the robot fights. I normally just look at the bot in game. I'm trusting enough that no-one who knows about super strong armour etc... would try and cheat like thatSame here.
Hows about an IF (or dsl ew) tourney where only control boards, batteries and a single anchor can be placed on the chassis, and ysing serge's ro7 patch is legal?
Yes, quite obviously.Hows about an IF (or dsl ew) tourney where only control boards, batteries and a single anchor can be placed on the chassis, and ysing serge's ro7 patch is legal?
So... Everything else (motors, weapons etc.) is not on the baseplate, including drive?
I'm considering making a tournament. I have several questions as I'm reading the rules:
- If I accept bots that are AIed by the competitor and not me, do I have to have the very same smart zone pack installed that the author had? This is a rather technical question but I think it's relevant here.
Good question. I'm not too sure if it matters, really. Just as long as the robot is clearly working as intended and it doesn't crash your game, you should be good to go.
- What are the standards for the images and videos I upload for the tournament? Is it OK to just show the raw video capture, and let the viewers "feel free to fast forward through the boring parts" and "feel free to start your favorite music player to cheer it up"?
The only bare minimum standard is that you show the end of the match where the winner is clearly presented. You do not need any fancy editing at all.
- How I'm supposed to receive the bots, is there a standard way, or do I need to publish an e-mail address to do so? (danger of getting spammed)
Via PM.
- It seems a lot of tournament descriptions have a lot of exclusions (like excluding whole robot types or AI modes). Are these required to have an exciting tournament?
That's relatively subjective, it's all up to you. Most bans and exclusions will depend on the host's preferences on what they want to see in their tournament, not necessarily what they think will make it the most exciting (although, it may be a good idea to keep that in mind, just so people enter :P)
I'm considering making a tournament. I have several questions as I'm reading the rules:You would need the same smartzone components they used. Most people use madiba's smartzones tho, I think. When I hosted this was never an issue for me. If a bot uses weird components the onus is on the entrant to supply a list of non-dtandard parts it uses (i.e. skin packs or other custom smartzones)
- If I accept bots that are AIed by the competitor and not me, do I have to have the very same smart zone pack installed that the author had? This is a rather technical question but I think it's relevant here.
- What are the standards for the images and videos I upload for the tournament? Is it OK to just show the raw video capture, and let the viewers "feel free to fast forward through the boring parts" and "feel free to start your favorite music player to cheer it up"?
- How I'm supposed to receive the bots, is there a standard way, or do I need to publish an e-mail address to do so? (danger of getting spammed)
- It seems a lot of tournament descriptions have a lot of exclusions (like excluding whole robot types or AI modes). Are these required to have an exciting tournament?
Meltybrain ai is banned in almost every tournament because its fundamentally broken.People only started banning MB recently.
I meant it's currently banned in nearly every tournament, so he should consider banning it too.Meltybrain ai is banned in almost every tournament because its fundamentally broken.People only started banning MB recently.
Why just rammers? Won't that be hugely boring?
What about Robot Wars Replica Tourament?Sonny's already done a crap-ton of them. RA2's damage system doesn't really work for replica tournaments
Sounds good to me, just as long as you make it perfectly clear what qualifies as a fast robot.
Alternatively, you could set a minimum "speed" value that must be achieved, where speed = motor torque x wheel grip.
Stock/DSL tournament where you can only use one of each component (excluding batteries and extenders)Isn't that Scrapyard Challenge? Don't remember if that's the exact name but I'm fairly sure that was the gimmick of Kurt's tournament.
Meh I wouldn't know, I'll go checkStock/DSL tournament where you can only use one of each component (excluding batteries and extenders)Isn't that Scrapyard Challenge? Don't remember if that's the exact name but I'm fairly sure that was the gimmick of Kurt's tournament.
I was gonna run an off-brand knock-off Scrapheap Challenge called Trashpile Trial, but I didn't want to step on anyone's toes.Stock/DSL tournament where you can only use one of each component (excluding batteries and extenders)Isn't that Scrapyard Challenge? Don't remember if that's the exact name but I'm fairly sure that was the gimmick of Kurt's tournament.
Hi guys,Sounds cool, but the money ones sound like a HUGE pain in the ass to host. Also I think 600kg is called cruiserweight (or maybe 550 or 500, idk)
I have been thinking of a few tournament ideas that I thought might be a fun little twist on the game – apologies if these have been suggested before.
1) Super Middleweight Melee (Working title)
Standard Stock competition with the main gimmick being that the weight limit would be capped at an unofficial “Super Middleweight” level of 600kg.
2) Pencil Pushers (Working title)
An idea I had inspired by Robot Arena 1. We assign each component a monetary value and give everyone say $1000 to spend on whatever they can come up with.
Some further thoughts:
- Weight could play a role, so for example the first 400kg you build with are free, but for every 50kg over that it could cost $50 (or similar).
- Armour could also play a role so for example plastic might be free, but DSA could cost $200, steel $150 etc.
- Components would be valued based on their effectiveness with the most expensive components being HP Zteks, Iron Spikes, SnapperII’s etc. while the samurai sword, servos, sledge hammer head etc would be cheaper.
Due to the complexity of valuing each part, I think this would have to be agreed beforehand (maybe on here?) and the rules would have a pricelist for competitors to work with. Due to the extra components in DSL I think this would work better as a stock contest also.
3) Budget Bots (Working title)
A breakaway from the above, where competitors are given a much smaller budget to spend on making a robot, similar rules as above.
What does everyone think?
Sounds cool, but the money ones sound like a HUGE pain in the ass to host. Also I think 600kg is called cruiserweight (or maybe 550 or 500, idk)
I'm loving the ideas. 600kg is Cruiserweight, btw.
The money-based idea is a nice one but you may get builders that don't want to crunch the numbers as they go, due to the monetary values being self-imposed but if you're willing to host a rather tasking tournament, more power to you.
You'll need at least 8 people to make it a tournament under the management rules iirc
I'm loving the ideas. 600kg is Cruiserweight, btw.
The money-based idea is a nice one but you may get builders that don't want to crunch the numbers as they go, due to the monetary values being self-imposed but if you're willing to host a rather tasking tournament, more power to you.
Ahh, is there an existing classification already in play for cruiserweight?
Also, I highly recommend that, if you want to host a tournament, you closely follow this guide made by GK because I use it for all my tournaments and it's near comprehensive regarding everything to do with hosting a tournament (it just doesn't mention Serge's component freedom, which I may amend at some point.)
- State the weightclass of robot in the tournament. The different weightclasses are listed below:
Antweight/AW (Up to 125.0kg)
Beetleweight/BW (Up to 175.0kg)
Lightweight/LW (Up to 248.9kg/249.0kg – This depends on the mood of the game)
Middleweight/MW (Up to 398.9kg/399.0 – Same issue here)
Cruiserweight/CW (Up to 600.0kg)
Heavyweight/HW (Up to 800.0kg)
SuperHeavyWeight/SHW (Up to 1200.0kg)
UltraHeavyWeight/UHW (Up to 5000.0kg)
GigaHeavyWeight/GHW (Up to 10000.0kg)
You can create your own weightclass if you want, also.
I has my TOURENMENT idea."mostly dsl2.2"
Riddle Wars (or call it Riddle School Wars)
Weight will be Heavyweight
No Sns?
The reskined Robot Wars Arena
Stock or DSL? or Ironforge?
Second
WenXiangWars (or WXW)
Mostly DSL 2.2
The reskined Robot Wars Arena
All gitch allowed
Pop up banned
Just don't cover it with undertale memes, pleaseI cannot stress that enough. You have free rein to edit your videos how you want but try to avoid compromising your chances of people watching your tournament or any subsequent tournament/challenge videos you make.
I has my TOURENMENT idea.WenXiangWars Entries (?)
Riddle Wars (or call it Riddle School Wars)
Weight will be Heavyweight
No Sns?
The reskined Robot Wars Arena
Stock or DSL? or Ironforge?
Second
WenXiangWars (or WXW)
Mostly DSL 2.2
The reskined Robot Wars Arena
All gitch allowed
Pop up banned
Just don't cover it with undertale music, pleaseI ONLY clover with This music
For this riddle schools wars thing, why not have a theme? Like all bots have to have a certain theme with their skin?Must be Riddle School Phil themed or riddle school Smiley themed or :rage themed
Looks alright to me.(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/373171467206467102_1467206712503.jpg)
I would like to say, even though this thread is good for a quick judgment of what people think about your tournament idea, making a thread in the Public Tournament Discussion board is a great indication of what people think.
Looks alright to me.(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/373171467206467102_1467206712503.jpg)
I would like to say, even though this thread is good for a quick judgment of what people think about your tournament idea, making a thread in the Public Tournament Discussion board is a great indication of what people think.I going to start on 7 November 2016 becuase I can't host on Monday to Friday I has school (expect holiday)
low turnout recentlySpeaking of, would people in favour of an official tournament ranking system? There'd be a few issues making it up because some gimmicky tournaments may need to be excluded from affecting the leaderboard and other such issues. I was thinking about making tournaments that fit a certain criteria only able to affect the official rankings. Then, at the end of the year (or 12 months after being initially set up), the top 3 get some form of prizes. If I coupled this idea with an official GTM tournament, the prizes could include an AI pack consisting of robots that entered it.
I would be in favour, this is exactly what we need. If I can help at all, PM me.low turnout recentlySpeaking of, would people in favour of an official tournament ranking system? There'd be a few issues making it up because some gimmicky tournaments may need to be excluded from affecting the leaderboard and other such issues. I was thinking about making tournaments that fit a certain criteria only able to affect the official rankings. Then, at the end of the year (or 12 months after being initially set up), the top 3 get some form of prizes. If I coupled this idea with an official GTM tournament, the prizes could include an AI pack consisting of robots that entered it.
Thoughts?
I'm all in favor of a leader board system, but I feel it's just going be the same 6 people who always enter tournaments. Lack of tournament turnout, imo, is because of a low interest in general for RA2 and an oversaturation of smaller tournaments without any other large-scale offerings (BBEANS, Clash Cubes)I was also concerned about that and I thought it could be possible to kick-start the ranking system with an official GTM tournament. I believe the only reason we (me, Sage, RedAce and Kill) haven't pushed for the RA2 League to happen yet is because we were worried it would lose a lot of interest if people moved on to RA3. However, now, with RA3's launch and no-one seems to be in a rush to drop RA2 for it, I think it may be worth pushing very soon. Tbf, thank you very much for jogging my memory on that because I may get in contact with Kill and the other hosts to see when we can get the big signups open for it.
I believe the only reason we (me, Sage, RedAce and Kill) haven't pushed for the RA2 League to happen yet is because we were worried it would lose a lot of interest if people moved on to RA3.I've also been meaning to get a practice stream up and going for a while, but I've been busy with college and ToT 2 and all that, so it's been on the back burner for a while. I also have had to take care of work schedule that has been increasing over the past few days. I'm still up for doing it. I just need to do some work arounds. If all goes well, I could stream a practice tourney next Saturday unless I get some sudden things that will take up that night.
Not sure if this is off-topic or not as it is tournament discussion related, but anyway...Cool stuff. Be sure to contact me on Steam at some point so we have a clear plan of action.I believe the only reason we (me, Sage, RedAce and Kill) haven't pushed for the RA2 League to happen yet is because we were worried it would lose a lot of interest if people moved on to RA3.I've also been meaning to get a practice stream up and going for a while, but I've been busy with college and ToT 2 and all that, so it's been on the back burner for a while. I also have had to take care of work schedule that has been increasing over the past few days. I'm still up for doing it. I just need to do some work arounds. If all goes well, I could stream a practice tourney next Saturday unless I get some sudden things that will take up that night.
tl;dr Still interested in this. Might make a practice stream soon.
Why don't we do 3 majors and 1 huge tournament, officially sanctioned by GTM and they give points for a ladder system. Maybe on a 4 monthly cycle.Are you insinuating that these tournaments are the only ones that would give out ranking points? If so, that goes against why I want this system in the first place. It gives an incentive for all members to join every given tournament (with the possible exception of gimmicky tournaments) as they can get higher up on the tournament rankings.
the bot must not be MEME THEMED
Removed the bot must not be MEME THEMED rulesthe bot must not be MEME THEMED
i don't think i can enter
Wen, you're the best.Removed the bot must not be MEME THEMED rulesthe bot must not be MEME THEMED
i don't think i can enter
Gitch and BFE Banned addedWen, you're the best.Removed the bot must not be MEME THEMED rulesthe bot must not be MEME THEMED
i don't think i can enter
As far as the rules go, it looks like you've covered everything. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "all glitch allowed" though. The DSL-Standard ruleset would probably take care of anything too game-breaking, but you might want to consider removing that. You also might want to add a rule banning BFE (bot file editing).
I think an "official" gtm tournament held on a quarterly or 4 monthly basis would be a great idea.It'd have to be yearly/every 12 months for it to feel like a grand occasion. I fear participation will waver if people don't enter on the basis that they can enter again during the year.
Problem would be agreeing on the mod to useThe mod used will be used on rotation. The top two mods out of the main three will be cycled through, hopefully.
ARE MY RULES OK?I guess I going to start TOURENMENT with this rules
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16941a 3.png)
DSL 2.2
Heavyweight
Robot Wars Arena, 2min fight.
Gitch banned
Pop up banned
16 Entries
prizes
Winner get Stock,DSL and Ironforge Bots.
2nd get Stock and Ironforge Bots.
3rd get Stock Bots.
4th to last place get... umm..... failed stock bots.
i can ai but not very well, i sugget you to ai yourself.
DSL Standard/DSL-S
No custom components that do not come with a fresh DSL 2.2 install, this includes skinned components
Double Elimination
Standard Havok Rules(one restart)
Hybird are allowed
No cheatbot2
BFE (bot file editing) banned
Rule of 7 break allowed; other SergePatcher features are not
Multibot allowed
Match Test:
https://youtu.be/jWwJkL8jLtg
Well, be sure to post the topic in Public Tournament Discussion, then. You can't start the tournament properly until you've got sufficient 'yes' votes.Ok
It'd have to be yearly/every 12 months for it to feel like a grand occasion. I fear participation will waver if people don't enter on the basis that they can enter again during the year.
The mod used will be used on rotation. The top two mods out of the main three will be cycled through, hopefully.
Latest Idea:I'm up for any stock tournament, but would need a bit of time to design a new bot, also what arena?
Creative Clash.
Stock HW tourney.
SnS, Pop-ups and HS banned.
HS Hybrids allowed, but some form of nerf, i.e. no more than 2 ZTek motors could be used for the spinning weapon.
Would there be any interest?
I'm up for any stock tournament, but would need a bit of time to design a new bot, also what arena?
Yeah, thought about the flippers, what about the ring arena?
I'm up for any stock tournament, but would need a bit of time to design a new bot, also what arena?
I would too for sure, I go on holiday on the 21st August so I would either need to try and fit this in before, or finalise the details now and get it moving when I'm back.
As we're limiting weapons somewhat, maybe an arena that allowed for flippers to have some hope of winning by using an arena with low walls... Any suggestions?
Maybe Robot Wars arena with hazards disabled?
Are there any other similar ones to this? I seem to recall one of the BBEANS tournament stages was similar to this, or at least it is in my head.
Yeah, thought about the flippers, what about the ring arena?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFzL1PPcOtgYeah, thought about the flippers, what about the ring arena?
Haven't used that one before. Guessing it's a ring shape with short walls?
I love that white one it has a nice racing theme.Ye, i modelled the paintjob after the 2006 toyota F1 car
Latest Idea:IMO, I would just limit the amount weapons HS can have on their tribars, popups could be OK as long they have to be hybrids, and SNS just can't use meltybrain.
Creative Clash.
Stock HW tourney.
SnS, Pop-ups and HS banned.
HS Hybrids allowed, but some form of nerf, i.e. no more than 2 ZTek motors could be used for the spinning weapon.
Would there be any interest?
some should make a stock tournament where Cheatbot2 components are allowed
good luck hitting a hovercraft with a popup, there is no rake in cheatbot2
Wouldn't it be better if they were mandatory? Like, people have to use those weapons? Because I totally see someone choosing not to use the Cheatbot components and then going in with your average "imma break the game" popup or HS.
Regardless, I'd be interested in a tournament using Cheatbot2 components.
Remember there are cannons and magnets in cheatbot2 so hovercrafts can be defeated from a bot on the ground.Do Magnets actually work? They never did for me and the Cannon wouldn't do damage after a few shots for some odd reasons.
but to be honest I'd say have every cheatbot2 component except for hovercraft because I think that could be a whole different tournament for hovercrafts :P
>needing cheatbot 2 to make a rakegood luck hitting a hovercraft with a popup, there is no rake in cheatbot2
Wouldn't it be better if they were mandatory? Like, people have to use those weapons? Because I totally see someone choosing not to use the Cheatbot components and then going in with your average "imma break the game" popup or HS.
Regardless, I'd be interested in a tournament using Cheatbot2 components.
Remember there are cannons and magnets in cheatbot2 so hovercrafts can be defeated from a bot on the ground.Do Magnets actually work? They never did for me and the Cannon wouldn't do damage after a few shots for some odd reasons.
but to be honest I'd say have every cheatbot2 component except for hovercraft because I think that could be a whole different tournament for hovercrafts :P
Are you talking about the Cannon or Magnets here? Both have been on servos and like I said the cannon damage wouldn't register after a few shots, magnets would never actually pull or push something even against a LW.Remember there are cannons and magnets in cheatbot2 so hovercrafts can be defeated from a bot on the ground.Do Magnets actually work? They never did for me and the Cannon wouldn't do damage after a few shots for some odd reasons.
but to be honest I'd say have every cheatbot2 component except for hovercraft because I think that could be a whole different tournament for hovercrafts :P
ever heard of a thing called servo motors they help aiming a lot.
Are you talking about the Cannon or Magnets here? Both have been on servos and like I said the cannon damage wouldn't register after a few shots, magnets would never actually pull or push something even against a LW.Remember there are cannons and magnets in cheatbot2 so hovercrafts can be defeated from a bot on the ground.Do Magnets actually work? They never did for me and the Cannon wouldn't do damage after a few shots for some odd reasons.
but to be honest I'd say have every cheatbot2 component except for hovercraft because I think that could be a whole different tournament for hovercrafts :P
ever heard of a thing called servo motors they help aiming a lot.
An idea I've had is something to the tune of you have a set bot, but YOU have to code the ai pythons for it.no
I don't know how to code these myself, I'll figure it out sometime here, but I was wondering if anyone else thought this was a good idea.
Scrapheap Challenge 2, yes or no?Yeah, sure.
Same "One of each component only." rule applies, otherwise it's not Scrapheap Challenge. Maybe DSL lightweight, maybe Ironforge somethingweight, it's been too long since I actually played the game to remember stuff.Scrapheap Challenge 2, yes or no?Yeah, sure.
Will it have the same rules or will it have a different weightclass and/or mod this time?
How does one send a bot to join a tournament.Just pm someone with a link to download your bot.
(Noob at forums ftw!)
How does one send a bot to join a tournament.
(Noob at forums ftw!)
It's very good but unfortunately I'm not sure on how you make an SHW lolThere should be a SHW antiballast which lowers your weight by 400 kg and when you remove it once you are done building, it can weigh around the maximum weight. There should be a link to that somewhere.
Another idea:
Everyone submits a chassis
I randomly assign a chassis to each person
You have to build with the chassis submitted to you
Hard Mode: I also assign you a random bot type.
Another idea:Boxing bots:
Boxing Bots:
Ironforge 1.1 MW,HW and SHW
Ring Arena
Poker,HS,Popup,Hammer,SideHammer,SnS (is allowed but meltybrain banned),Hammer and VS are allowed this this.
Hammer will be no limit use, but all of the weapon (expect hammer) has 15 per use limits.
Hybrids allowed but I will check.
Double Bracket
Little Chassis Clash:
DSL 2.2 Heavyweight
All the bot much build form this chassis (coming soon)
Bracket system will be People Choice's Bracket System
BBEANS Arena v1 Hazard on
BO3
Clone Robot Go Go!:
Stock anyweight
You must choose which bot to clone form ai pack, showcase and anywhere.
Ring Arena BO3
New idea!what does 3ds max have to do with this? Do you even know how to AI bots? How do you expect to edit videos when you can't even crop screenshots?
3ds max bots wars!
Not sure how will it go but prolly on dsl 2.2
Max weight 1000 kg.
Again.. this is an idea!
what does 3ds max have to do with this?did u know he has 3ds max. i sure didnt until he told us 20 times about how he cant get it to work.
No... i meant for someone to host a damn tournamentWhy would anyone spend their time to host your tournament idea for you?
and 3ds max is for creating components... and for croping pics.. excuse me but i dont have that fancy adobe photoshop thingy.. and after croping it in ms paint it looks like crap.. all low res..
So: would anyone get involved with a one-off stock full CF (excluding unlimited weight) tournament? It's a really, really stupid idea I've been sitting on for a while and would probably only ever work once, but I'm curious as to absolutely how far RA2 can be possibly pushed when the rules are lifted on component placement.Oh god, that would be something else...
wakkydude you should just host it. Pretty easy when you have literally 1 rule.
This is not specifically addressed to you, wakky, but I cannot stress enough, especially to any prospective hosts out there, how easy AI'ing is. You don't need to know how to code. You simply need to know what to copy and where to paste. It really is as simple as that.qft, it's super simple stuff.
Okay, Kurt's gonna do a new tourneyament for you guys, I think it might;ve been done before but I can't remember. Here's the basic gist of it.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU...
DSL - Probably IRL again.
Weightclass - LW, MW, CW, and HW.
- 16 entrants in a Single Elimination bracket.
- Each entrant must send a four-strong team of robots that are pretty much the same. In Round One the Lightweights will get used, then in Round Two the Middleweights will get used, Round Three is Cruiserweights, and the Final is Heavyweights.
- Given that it's based around "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." it would make sense that way.
- Each robot must start of as a LW then slowly evolve at each weightclass it increases to.
- They must all look and function the same way, no adding a flywheel to the Cruiserweight version of a flipper robot.
Questions?
That's a really good idea, I like it. I'd say DSL-IRL, if only because that's the metagame I'm best at.Okay, Kurt's gonna do a new tourneyament for you guys, I think it might;ve been done before but I can't remember. Here's the basic gist of it.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU...
DSL - Probably IRL again.
Weightclass - LW, MW, CW, and HW.
- 16 entrants in a Single Elimination bracket.
- Each entrant must send a four-strong team of robots that are pretty much the same. In Round One the Lightweights will get used, then in Round Two the Middleweights will get used, Round Three is Cruiserweights, and the Final is Heavyweights.
- Given that it's based around "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." it would make sense that way.
- Each robot must start of as a LW then slowly evolve at each weightclass it increases to.
- They must all look and function the same way, no adding a flywheel to the Cruiserweight version of a flipper robot.
Questions?
I'm down for editing this, but what's good? Ironforge or DSL, and IRL or Standard?
Guise, an awesome new idea, ordinary tournament, with a twist. The host removes a random component from the entries. Could be a battery, a wheel, a weapon.Control board.
Then the crippled bots fight it out.
Okay, Kurt's gonna do a new tourneyament for you guys, I think it might;ve been done before but I can't remember. Here's the basic gist of it.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU...
DSL - Probably IRL again.
Weightclass - LW, MW, CW, and HW.
- 16 entrants in a Single Elimination bracket.
- Each entrant must send a four-strong team of robots that are pretty much the same. In Round One the Lightweights will get used, then in Round Two the Middleweights will get used, Round Three is Cruiserweights, and the Final is Heavyweights.
- Given that it's based around "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." it would make sense that way.
- Each robot must start of as a LW then slowly evolve at each weightclass it increases to.
- They must all look and function the same way, no adding a flywheel to the Cruiserweight version of a flipper robot.
Questions?
I'm down for editing this, but what's good? Ironforge or DSL, and IRL or Standard?
Another idea would be Keep Your Enemies Close 2, because sequels = easy
I think a cool idea would be a round robin type deal similar to ironbot or whatever it was called, but when your HW dies you use the CW, when the CW dies you use the MW etc until your LW gets knocked out and you're out of the tournament.Okay, Kurt's gonna do a new tourneyament for you guys, I think it might;ve been done before but I can't remember. Here's the basic gist of it.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU...
DSL - Probably IRL again.
Weightclass - LW, MW, CW, and HW.
- 16 entrants in a Single Elimination bracket.
- Each entrant must send a four-strong team of robots that are pretty much the same. In Round One the Lightweights will get used, then in Round Two the Middleweights will get used, Round Three is Cruiserweights, and the Final is Heavyweights.
- Given that it's based around "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." it would make sense that way.
- Each robot must start of as a LW then slowly evolve at each weightclass it increases to.
- They must all look and function the same way, no adding a flywheel to the Cruiserweight version of a flipper robot.
Questions?
I'm down for editing this, but what's good? Ironforge or DSL, and IRL or Standard?
Another idea would be Keep Your Enemies Close 2, because sequels = easy
I agree, this is a great idea.
I only have experience in standard (so obviously that's what I prefer), but I'm only one person. Let's see what the majority of people want.
I have an Idea, I can't really AI, I can get them prepared for AI, but not actually putting them as AI, and I would have to use Bandicam.I second this. I to have an idea for a tournament, Clusterbot Mayhem, DSL 2.2 and IRL packs the idea is build 2 robots that weigh around 400, KGS and have them fight other clusterbots in the RA2 tournament arena. The Clusterbots must be IRL. Could someone host this as a tournament?
Anyways, my idea would be IRL DSL HW, BUT the amount of wheels MUST BE THE SAME as the amount of motors, including servos, burst motors, and hammer/flipper motors.
I might put this idea up in the air if people would want to host it, or maybe I could learn to AI, who knows?
I have an Idea, I can't really AI, I can get them prepared for AI, but not actually putting them as AI, and I would have to use Bandicam.
Anyways, my idea would be IRL DSL HW, BUT the amount of wheels MUST BE THE SAME as the amount of motors, including servos, burst motors, and hammer/flipper motors.
I might put this idea up in the air if people would want to host it, or maybe I could learn to AI, who knows?
Learn to AI and record your game and host it yourself. Nobody is going to host your tournament for you.I have an Idea, I can't really AI, I can get them prepared for AI, but not actually putting them as AI, and I would have to use Bandicam.I second this. I to have an idea for a tournament, Clusterbot Mayhem, DSL 2.2 and IRL packs the idea is build 2 robots that weigh around 400, KGS and have them fight other clusterbots in the RA2 tournament arena. The Clusterbots must be IRL. Could someone host this as a tournament?
Anyways, my idea would be IRL DSL HW, BUT the amount of wheels MUST BE THE SAME as the amount of motors, including servos, burst motors, and hammer/flipper motors.
I might put this idea up in the air if people would want to host it, or maybe I could learn to AI, who knows?
I have an Idea, I can't really AI, I can get them prepared for AI, but not actually putting them as AI, and I would have to use Bandicam.
Anyways, my idea would be IRL DSL HW, BUT the amount of wheels MUST BE THE SAME as the amount of motors, including servos, burst motors, and hammer/flipper motors.
I might put this idea up in the air if people would want to host it, or maybe I could learn to AI, who knows?
So basically we have to use random wheels as armor? Can we make the gimmick more interesting in some way?
They could take full credit.Learn to AI and record your game and host it yourself. Nobody is going to host your tournament for you.I have an Idea, I can't really AI, I can get them prepared for AI, but not actually putting them as AI, and I would have to use Bandicam.I second this. I to have an idea for a tournament, Clusterbot Mayhem, DSL 2.2 and IRL packs the idea is build 2 robots that weigh around 400, KGS and have them fight other clusterbots in the RA2 tournament arena. The Clusterbots must be IRL. Could someone host this as a tournament?
Anyways, my idea would be IRL DSL HW, BUT the amount of wheels MUST BE THE SAME as the amount of motors, including servos, burst motors, and hammer/flipper motors.
I might put this idea up in the air if people would want to host it, or maybe I could learn to AI, who knows?
of course they would. Nobody wants to host someone else's idea. Learn to do it yourself, its SO easyThey could take full credit.Learn to AI and record your game and host it yourself. Nobody is going to host your tournament for you.I have an Idea, I can't really AI, I can get them prepared for AI, but not actually putting them as AI, and I would have to use Bandicam.I second this. I to have an idea for a tournament, Clusterbot Mayhem, DSL 2.2 and IRL packs the idea is build 2 robots that weigh around 400, KGS and have them fight other clusterbots in the RA2 tournament arena. The Clusterbots must be IRL. Could someone host this as a tournament?
Anyways, my idea would be IRL DSL HW, BUT the amount of wheels MUST BE THE SAME as the amount of motors, including servos, burst motors, and hammer/flipper motors.
I might put this idea up in the air if people would want to host it, or maybe I could learn to AI, who knows?
The last thing we need is another IRL tournament. It's literally the cancer killing GTM.QFT
double qftThe last thing we need is another IRL tournament. It's literally the cancer killing GTM.QFT
The last thing we need is another IRL tournament. It's literally the cancer killing GTM.Is that why its one of the most played metas currently and has brought in a group of new users? Nevermind that some of the biggest tournaments currently going on are IRL, too.
chinese whispers retooled?I hate retooled with a passion.
People need to stop complaining about IRL. We've had this whinging for 3 years, possibly more, and IRL is not dying out any time soon. If you wish to support a meta, do a tournament for it or keep quiet with the complaints please because you won't change the majority's favorite meta by simple persuasion. Personally I find DSL-S obtuse and hard to get into, so i went to IRL and never came back, although i am not a good irl builder by any stretch of the imagination.
It's not exactly the cancer of GTM when two very large tournaments currently on-going (SoG and GTMRW) are IRL.The fact that there are exactly two decent IRL tournaments out of all the ones we have merely proves my point.
People need to stop complaining about IRL. We've had this whinging for 3 years, possibly more, and IRL is not dying out any time soon. If you wish to support a meta, do a tournament for it or keep quiet with the complaints please because you won't change the majority's favorite meta by simple persuasion. Personally I find DSL-S obtuse and hard to get into, so i went to IRL and never came back, although i am not a good irl builder by any stretch of the imagination.The fact that LRA2 feels the need to defend his favorite meta merely proves my point.
+1People need to stop complaining about IRL. We've had this whinging for 3 years, possibly more, and IRL is not dying out any time soon. If you wish to support a meta, do a tournament for it or keep quiet with the complaints please because you won't change the majority's favorite meta by simple persuasion. Personally I find DSL-S obtuse and hard to get into, so i went to IRL and never came back, although i am not a good irl builder by any stretch of the imagination.The fact that LRA2 feels the need to defend his favorite meta merely proves my point.
The fact that LRA2 feels the need to defend his favorite meta merely proves my point.
I've had a idea for a tourney after i do my first... Goodbye DSL 2.1Nobody (at least in my opinion) uses DSL 2.1 Anymore. Do you mean 2.2 where you can only use 2.1 parts?
RULES!
DSL 2.1 DSL S HW (399-800)
No RA2CF or any of that stuff
You cant use stuff that was made after DSL 2.2 came out so DSC's pack isnt allowed
Entry's would be Unlimited
No re-entrys
Does this sound like a good idea?
no i dont mean DSL 2.2 at all but its a good idea just that most stuff in DSL 2.2 is either weaker and stronger like the axes :/I've had a idea for a tourney after i do my first... Goodbye DSL 2.1Nobody (at least in my opinion) uses DSL 2.1 Anymore. Do you mean 2.2 where you can only use 2.1 parts?
RULES!
DSL 2.1 DSL S HW (399-800)
No RA2CF or any of that stuff
You cant use stuff that was made after DSL 2.2 came out so DSC's pack isnt allowed
Entry's would be Unlimited
No re-entrys
Does this sound like a good idea?
I have an idea for an tournament..If you ask yugitom/craig nicely they might allow you to bend the rules. If not you could just run 3 heats instead of 4
Metal Mayhem!
Meta DSL 2.2
Style; IRL (not strict)
arena: DSL Tournament arena
Battle format: three two way battles, heat final is a 3 way battle and may include a nasty surprise!
The only problem im facing is.. well this is my first tournament so i can only have 16 bots.. the tournament has 18 bots format..
Yeah, 18 is fine by me.Good... just to set-up my bcam.. my pc is kinda toaster.. just to reduce res to 1024X600 and record it in 480p..
Use OBS. No ugly watermark like bandicam (unless you have the full version of Bandicam that is)Yeah, 18 is fine by me.Good... just to set-up my bcam.. my pc is kinda toaster.. just to reduce res to 1024X600 and record it in 480p..
I have the full version... Proud owner...Use OBS. No ugly watermark like bandicam (unless you have the full version of Bandicam that is)Yeah, 18 is fine by me.Good... just to set-up my bcam.. my pc is kinda toaster.. just to reduce res to 1024X600 and record it in 480p..
Can someone approve my event?No one will as yours tournamens are well.. idiotic....
Anyone got any recommendations for what editing software i should... procure if i was to run a tournament?Pirate Sony Vegas
(or any free software that is not windows movie maker)
eh, i downloaded a free software called VDSC Free Video Editor. sony vegas 30 day trial didn't appeal to me, and i'm too incompetent to know how to pirate without getting a thousand viruses.I use NCH Videopad. It's free and decent enough. better than WMM, has video/audio layers and more effects options. It might have chroma key but I can't remember.
thanks for answering though
Don't pirate.why not?
inb4 something something "stealing" even though there's no scarcity involved in software.Don't pirate.why not?
Anyone got any recommendations for what editing software i should... procure if i was to run a tournament?
(or any free software that is not windows movie maker)
I would like AI help on my event.
Thank you homieUmmm....I don't know why but that AI doesn't look right to me.
mean to, I dont know what wrong.If you don't know what's wrong, then WHY DO THE ROBOTS WALL-HUG FOR AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME?
Guys, what do you think of allowing a host to set a minimum number of signups, so if they don't get the required number of entrants by end of signups they aren't forced to keep extending the deadline or run the tournament with byebots, and instead can cancel the tournament?Eh, maybe. It seems more like host error at that point to cancel the entire tournament.
Anyone can host this (considering that they finished previous tournament, and know how to host one)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/332463032708104192/347823271162544128/Screenshot_2017-08-17-21-24-23-1.png)
Swiss army training maybe? Wasn't that a thing in your hands.Oh yeah, so it was. Swiss Army Training for my tenth tournament, but that doesn't stop y'all from contributing towards my eleventh. :dumb)
I feel like running a tournament. I also feel too lazy to make my own rules. If anybody has any favourite cancelled or abandoned tournament they'd like to see taken over finished, let me know. I'll see what the consensus is and I'll finish or reboot the tournament, depending on if enough of the original entries are obtainable.I've been having a few ideas:
I feel like running a tournament. I also feel too lazy to make my own rules. If anybody has any favourite cancelled or abandoned tournament they'd like to see taken over finished, let me know. I'll see what the consensus is and I'll finish or reboot the tournament, depending on if enough of the original entries are obtainable.I've been having a few ideas:
LvD but with 3/4 teams
I feel like running a tournament. I also feel too lazy to make my own rules. If anybody has any favourite cancelled or abandoned tournament they'd like to see taken over finished, let me know. I'll see what the consensus is and I'll finish or reboot the tournament, depending on if enough of the original entries are obtainable.I've been having a few ideas:
LvD but with 3/4 teams
DSL-S SHW tournament
KOTH or sumo tournament
Secret santa/chinese whispers crossover, a bot is passed along with the 1st person choosing # of wheels, next chooses weapon system etc and the last person it lands on has to build it. idk if I explained it well but I can elaborate
Secret santa/chinese whispers crossover, a bot is passed along with the 1st person choosing # of wheels, next chooses weapon system etc and the last person it lands on has to build it. idk if I explained it well but I can elaborateYou mean like this? If so, I'm down for it.
exactly, preferably with more categories.Secret santa/chinese whispers crossover, a bot is passed along with the 1st person choosing # of wheels, next chooses weapon system etc and the last person it lands on has to build it. idk if I explained it well but I can elaborateYou mean like this?
Okay so I'm gonna come in and play bad cop here.
What you're suggesting is essentially just regular GTM tournaments, but only open to certain people.
If a tournament on GTM grounds is taking entries, it cannot be discriminative of what groups of people or where you're taking entries from. People can't be left out just because they're not in a certain server/group/whatever.
You're of course welcome to host these but they're not GTM-sanctioned tournaments so shouldn't really be in the GTM Tournament section.
My idea for the display tournament section is to remove it entirely and move everything in there to Off-Topic, but that's me.
As currently written, display tournaments are specifically not to accept entrants of any kind. This was written at a point in time where we were essentially the only community involved with RA2. With the recent instances of redditbots, banter wars, etc, we feel as though this deserves a rewrite to accommodate these additional avenues of RA2 content that are not centered around GTM. We are currently in discussions on how best to bring you the best of both worlds.
We run our tournament section the way we do because we want to guarantee to you that your time won't be wasted when a tournament isn't finished or is run improperly or unfairly. We have staff that are specifically dedicated to ensuring that these run smoothly and in a reasonable amount of time.
For a game as old as this, we think it's important that we, in some way, shape or form, offer a platform for people to share and enjoy any content that relates to it. We hope to find a balance between the two sides to this issue.
Please understand that this is an issue that has just now gained our attention. I'm not interested in making sweeping decisions by myself or with minimal input. I don't always have the best answers for everything. I'm dedicated to making sure the staff as a whole gets a chance to be involved with these decisions, so they take a few days sometimes. In the meantime, we ask you to please respect the rules that are currently in place.
Firstly to Ceph: However these side-tourneys shouldn't be classed as off-topic, they are related to RA2, a game we all love and should have a home somewhere if possible.
Kill: That sounds a lot more reasonable. I'll continue posting in the Off-Topic but the fact it was so sudden kinda disheartened me. I don't fully agree with why it was moved but on the flip side, I'm happy this topic is being looked at.
Firstly to Ceph: I don't see where Hoppin suggested tourneys for select/certain people. As far as I can tell, neither Ironbound or Orc's Wars were discriminative with who entered. True that they aren't GTM tourneys per se and it could be better if they have a place on the side.
Firstly to Ceph: I don't see where Hoppin suggested tourneys for select/certain people. As far as I can tell, neither Ironbound or Orc's Wars were discriminative with who entered. True that they aren't GTM tourneys per se and it could be better if they have a place on the side.
If it's a tournament on GTM, and it's not open to *all* GTM users but only certain circles...
I mean I had no chance to enter either so
We've been playing with Parsec, a screen-sharing client that Badnik linked in the thread. (https://gametechmods.com/forums/discussion/important-this-will-save-ra2/) Long story short, initial results seem to indicate that it works. I don't want to jump the gun and say it's flawless in every way without more testing, but today I played S_M across the atlantic US-UK and was very competitive with maybe a few hundred ping and the occasional lag spike that lasted a second or so. If you know how awful hamachi was, this will blow your mind how good it seems so far.
In a US-US match I imagine the lag will be low enough to have actual competitive matches. We need to test it a bit more but I'm gonna throw this post out there in the mean time.
I want to do an tournament that has live players instead of AI controlling the bots. If Parsec continues to deliver, this could work.
There are a couple of drawbacks. The way Parsec works is it's basically like a screen-sharing software like teamviewer. Basically one person hosts the match and one or more people connect to the computer. Everyone technically controls the keyboard and mouse at the same time on the host's pc - once he has enabled it.
This might scare some people and is pretty trust-based. Technically a player could screw over another by pressing his controls. Thankfully there seems to be little risk of someone actually hijacking someone else's PC since the host has key commands to enable and disable all inputs but his own. I wouldn't bother enabling inputs until the match has started, then disable them once the match ends if I was the host.
There also is a bit of a trust issue in that the host would have to have all competing robots on his PC and could theoretically tamper with them. There's not really a way around this except for just trusting the host. Then again, AI tournaments are pretty much the same thing.
That said, I am willing to give it a shot. I want to test it with some US players first to see how bad the latency is, but I really want to do a tournament with this. It could open up a huge assortment of building techniques etc once human drivers are common like I posted in the thread. (https://gametechmods.com/forums/discussion/important-this-will-save-ra2/)
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Basically what I am thinking, subject to change with feedback:
8 bots, 1v1, bo3, double elimination. Let's start small & basic.
Ironforge MW/HW. Standard rules, no RA2CF, BFE, etc. Just for the competitive angle.
Octagon Arena. One of the benefits of human driving is that we aren't stupid and can dodge hazards. I'm going to take advantage of it.
US entrants only. Sorry to the others. Let's keep the lag to a minimum, at least for now.
I will host. Right now I'm located in Arkansas, which actually is a pretty good spot with how central it is in the US- should help latency ideally.
Everyone would send their robots to me, and I would of course check to make sure they're legal. Since both parties need to have controls that could be played on the same keyboard, I would make 2 copies of the robots with one controlled with WASD and one with arrow keys (and maybe one with numpad if people want it). I'd tell each player which control scheme he got before the match.
2 people would join my stream and start the 1v1 while I record the matches. Not everyone necessarily has to do their matches at the same time, a single round taking place over a few days may be the best we can do. We'll have to play it by ear. If one person begins to take an unacceptably long time to join a match, they will forfeit a round.
If I find people screwing with others controls during a match, they will forfeit a round. Once is an accident. Twice gets a forfeit.
Once I got all the bots I would make the standard splashes and brackets and such. Preferably in a PM people would tell me what days & times they would be free along with their timezone.
Any major things I missed? Suggestions are welcome. I'm pumped.
So are these tournaments being attempted in one go? I would assume that for longer or more important events it would a better idea to hold the matches within a timing window (one week, ten days, ect.), in order to make sure people don't have to choose between RA2 or life.
So are these tournaments being attempted in one go? I would assume that for longer or more important events it would a better idea to hold the matches within a timing window (one week, ten days, ect.), in order to make sure people don't have to choose between RA2 or life.
No no- we were able to hold ours in one day because of the amount of people. If you've got a larger tournement then yes, you can have matches whenever it is specified (as long as it fits in with the current tournement rules I assume).
i agree with that, we should be able to arrange fights when it's feasible for us
that being said, we can usually bang out gmod tournaments on a saturday afternoon so theres no reason why we couldnt on ra2
One problem with online tournaments is the fact that, if someone outside the fight presses a key, it's untraceable.
Then limit the number of people who can physically press keys
Try up-voting Mouldy's suggestion as much as you can
oof
Not to mention that people won't have freedom of choice when it comes to controls. If two guys, let's even say in the finals, have the exact same control set-up, one of them has to bite the bullet and use something they're not used to. If that person ends up losing, how can we tell if it was because of that or not?
Most robots are versatile with controls. If I'm wrong and it's just my robots that can have multiple schemes, then my controls can be changed by the organizer before others.
Most robots are versatile with controls. If I'm wrong and it's just my robots that can have multiple schemes, then my controls can be changed by the organizer before others.I don't really get this
Actually, I was under the impression you couldn't be selective when it comes to picking those that can press keys, but I think it was Jason being lazy. Even so, the point stands that, if one guy ****s up, he could blame it on his opponent pressing his buttons or the host rigging it.
I don't really get this
I just meant that keeping as few people in a server at one time as possible reduces the total numbers of suspects for a button press.Well, limiting the amount of people it could have been doesn't solve the problem. Also, "you AI'd it wrong" and "you pressed my flipper button during my match" are two different things. With AI, it's immediately evident who's in the wrong.
As for blaming the host, you don't see people blame the host (U AID IT WRONG) often, do you?
that could be a cool thing, also i can still use my GMod bots control scheme (IJKL for drive, O, P and M for weapon(s)) so the keys problem shouldn't be too big of a deal
but i thought of a problem.
usa only means no wen!
Also, What if that nividia thing does not work on all are computers?
:vista:
And arnt you vunerible to getting hacked?
Thinking of mega online tournament...That's not a gimmick.
Gimmics
DSL IRL
HW
How whould this work
54 enerants (18 per region)
3 on 3, one house bot controlled by host (or a contestant if host is fighting)
Multiple hosts for multiple regions
Now fun part...
There would be 3 regions... USA, EU, Asia, mainly spit between time zones
Each host for each region
Each host will make own vids... (Us host, us vids...)
For grand finals, we set a certain date/time and fight it off...
Is this good? (No im not ditching my tourney... Ima finish it very soon)
No sh** sherlockThinking of mega online tournament...That's not a gimmick.
Gimmics
DSL IRL
HW
I know this is a massive project... But it is a new and interesting thing... If we fail to hit 54 single enteries... Well 54 double enteriesHow whould this work
54 enerants (18 per region)
3 on 3, one house bot controlled by host (or a contestant if host is fighting)
Multiple hosts for multiple regions
Now fun part...
There would be 3 regions... USA, EU, Asia, mainly spit between time zones
Each host for each region
Each host will make own vids... (Us host, us vids...)
For grand finals, we set a certain date/time and fight it off...
Is this good? (No im not ditching my tourney... Ima finish it very soon)
I have comments:
You do realize this a massive project, right? Not even AI tournaments, where the entry requirement of building once within a time limit, get 54 entries very often.
How are you splitting up timezones? Is this for the brakcet? Are they sub-regions?
You'd need like 3 hosts too.
There would be 3 regions... USA, EU, Asia, mainly spit between time zones
Each host for each region
I agree slightly smaller, but keep this in the bank for a larger tourney.Down from 54 to 27?
But if I'm out of place suggesting this, just give me a slap in the face. :mrgreen:
But maybe some who can't build are better off hosting!Has always been my ethos/motto
I'd be so happy to enter this. I loved the BB seeding bracket format, so a RA2 version would be so cool.
Please do this, I'd be happy to enter
I don't Know if anyone has previously done this but what about an IRL tournament where your not allowed spinners. I would do this if I had the skills and equipmentThere was supposed to be one relatively recently but it got put on the back burner and then never came out.
Man That's unfortunate :/I don't Know if anyone has previously done this but what about an IRL tournament where your not allowed spinners. I would do this if I had the skills and equipmentThere was supposed to be one relatively recently but it got put on the back burner and then never came out.
Man That's unfortunate :/I don't Know if anyone has previously done this but what about an IRL tournament where your not allowed spinners. I would do this if I had the skills and equipmentThere was supposed to be one relatively recently but it got put on the back burner and then never came out.
What I wanna see is an IRL stock tournament. That's almost never been done before and we'd get a lot of unusual designs in a desperate bid to look original.
"Why not just use DSL 2.2?"
Shut up, we've done that WAY too much now. Doing an IRL tourney in stock or maybe even Ironforge would be pretty unique of an experience.
I agree, things like banter wars are good because there original and get people to think creatively
>no spinner allowed
>robot wars 2016 arena
get ready for a lot of flipper
Any tournaments to join as of March 3rd?I got mine going on :)
Is it possible for me to join?Yep we have got 32 places
Which Game?Operation spinner wipeout
Ideas for tournament in the future:
As Yet Untitled Forfeit Format: Meta undecided, weight undecided, etc. Prior to the tournament starting, all the entrants must give me an idea for a building handicap that will randomly be assigned to another member. Examples: "Must use 10 mm Steel chassis armour.", "Must have an odd number of wheels.", "Must not be invertible.", "Must be 25 kg underweight.", "Must use the circular chassis tool.", etc. Forfeits that make it tricky to build but not impossible.
Hometown Throwdown (Name likely to change if I get given better suggestions.): Meta undecided, weight undecided, etc. Prior to the tournament starting, all the entrants must give me an arena that will be their "home" arena, no stupid arenas like the Obstacle Course or Mars Arena though. The tournament will be a straightforward double round robin format, where each competitor fights all its opponents once at home in its chosen arena, and once in everyone else's arenas. Once the round robin section is done, the top however many will move onto a final single elimination bracket in a pre-selected arena.
Feedback?
I meant like DSL, Stock, Ironnforge, or elseWhich Game?Operation spinner wipeout
DSLI meant like DSL, Stock, Ironnforge, or elseWhich Game?Operation spinner wipeout
What are the rules?Just look at the tournament in multi entry signups
Any tournaments to join as of March 3rd?
Any tournaments to join as of March 3rd?
Any tournaments to join as of March 3rd?Signups for Scrapheap Challenge 3 and Masters Of Disaster 2 will be going live in a few days, so you should start building in advance of those opening.
So with not much happening Minibots atm (still making the arena), I've been thinking of a few other ideas:
Brotherly Love
A replica rules version of Father and Son
Basically all entrants have to enter replicas of at least two different weight classes however the robots have to be built from the same team (IE Terrorhurtz and Tanshe, Mute and Micro Mute)
If two different people want to enter the same robot I suggest a head to head on the challenge board to decide who gets to enter the robot they want.
Robot Roulette
Going to sound a bit like Wen here, but this one I think will be a bit weird.
So an IRL tournament where the arena will be random (but there will only be a few arenas that can be chose) and you get two points for a win and zero for a loss. Others who have entered can place bets on who they think will win and get a point if they're correct (oh god this will be a nightmare)
Round Robin War
IRL tournament in a Round Robin style, set in the RW2016 arena. The four robots with the most points will go to a knockout stage, one round of head to heads and then a final.
So... Opinions?
So with not much happening Minibots atm (still making the arena), I've been thinking of a few other ideas:
Brotherly Love
A replica rules version of Father and Son
Basically all entrants have to enter replicas of at least two different weight classes however the robots have to be built from the same team (IE Terrorhurtz and Tanshe, Mute and Micro Mute)
If two different people want to enter the same robot I suggest a head to head on the challenge board to decide who gets to enter the robot they want.
Robot Roulette
Going to sound a bit like Wen here, but this one I think will be a bit weird.
So an IRL tournament where the arena will be random (but there will only be a few arenas that can be chose) and you get two points for a win and zero for a loss. Others who have entered can place bets on who they think will win and get a point if they're correct (oh god this will be a nightmare)
Round Robin War
IRL tournament in a Round Robin style, set in the RW2016 arena. The four robots with the most points will go to a knockout stage, one round of head to heads and then a final.
So... Opinions?
what kind of tournaments are people interested in atmYou can probably tell that by looking at all the tournament boards at the moment, there's a sheer ton of DSL-IRL tournaments that have been happen due to the overall popularity of the meta. You can still do a tournament that doesn't use DSL-IRL as the meta, but just don't except users to be flocking in when sign-ups are open.
Do something in stock pleasestock IRL lol.
Do something in stock pleaseMaybe try something new, such as maybe a Stock Cruiserweight tournament or something. There's nothing stopping you from doing so.
Do something in stock pleasestock IRL lol.
I mean. Stock isnt CPU intensive after all
2k5 athlon x2 64...Do something in stock pleasestock IRL lol.
I mean. Stock isnt CPU intensive after all
What kind of a CPU do you have? :really_makes_you_think:
can you make the entrants ai themselves
can you make the entrants ai themselves
why would you host a tournament if you AI nothing
No you cannot. Have a dedicated partner to help AI if needed, but entrants cannot be forced to AI by themselves.
Rules are there for a reason.
https://gametechmods.com/forums/public-tournament-discussion/tournament-management-(updated-83117)/
can you make the entrants ai themselvesNice job in your attempt to AI. :dumb)
I am thinking of hosting a tournament
I am thinking of hosting a tournamentBut first off, you need to learn how to AI or else.
i can't remember who did that before lmaoI am thinking of hosting a tournamentBut first off, you need to learn how to AI or else.
You can't host a tournament with you controling the bot.
I can ai and record
I can ai and recordalright now i'm H Y P E
lra2i can't remember who did that before lmaoI am thinking of hosting a tournamentBut first off, you need to learn how to AI or else.
You can't host a tournament with you controling the bot.
It will be IRL antweightsHave fun getting entries for that
It's IRL, it'll get entries.It will be IRL antweightsHave fun getting entries for that
Ok that's true IRL will get a lot of people intrested. It's just that antweights is such as an odd category too base it around. I can see it being quite difficult for some players to build too that weight catogorey. Although what do I knowIt's IRL, it'll get entries.It will be IRL antweightsHave fun getting entries for that
Ok that's true IRL will get a lot of people intrested. It's just that antweights is such as an odd category too base it around. I can see it being quite difficult for some players to build too that weight catogorey. Although what do I knowIt's IRL, it'll get entries.It will be IRL antweightsHave fun getting entries for that
Ok that's true IRL will get a lot of people intrested. It's just that antweights is such as an odd category too base it around. I can see it being quite difficult for some players to build too that weight catogorey. Although what do I knowIt's IRL, it'll get entries.It will be IRL antweightsHave fun getting entries for that
I doubt many users will enter antweights, like I like IRL and even I'm not interested in that
Look, I know how much you want to go forward with DSL-IRL Antweights Superbot and I'm not stopping you from doing so. But maybe you should think about what other users want for a tournament and also building up hosting trust between said users, instead of jumping into the idea straight away. You could start out with maybe doing a Heavyweight or Lightweight IRL tournament first to get users attention and trust, before attempting to do an Antweight tournament.Ok that's true IRL will get a lot of people intrested. It's just that antweights is such as an odd category too base it around. I can see it being quite difficult for some players to build too that weight catogorey. Although what do I knowIt's IRL, it'll get entries.It will be IRL antweightsHave fun getting entries for that
I doubt many users will enter antweights, like I like IRL and even I'm not interested in that
No offense but I have to agree with Hop here...but perhaps everyone else will join! :smile:
I can’t ai no matter how long I try... but I have an idea that I posted in the chat box 2 seconds ago!Only Meltybrain? Why no shell spinners?
Beyblades: DSL-IRL. Bot has to look beyblade ish. Flatmotor allowed. Weapon spam allowed because some beys look weapon spammy. Arena: custom arena resembling a beystadium. Weight class: heavyweight
Edit: bot has to act somewhat like a bey too. Which means only meltybrains are allowed.
Double edit: double elimination.
I can’t ai no matter how long I try... but I have an idea that I posted in the chat box 2 seconds ago!I can AI for you
Beyblades: DSL-IRL. Bot has to look beyblade ish. Flatmotor allowed. Weapon spam allowed because some beys look weapon spammy. Arena: custom arena resembling a beystadium. Weight class: heavyweight
Edit: bot has to act somewhat like a bey too. Which means only meltybrains are allowed.
Double edit: double elimination.
It will be IRL antweightsoh....uh.....i shoulda read this before starting something.....whoops
Tournament ideas:1. Sure. I haven't seen anyone play RWRA2 in a while.
- Parsec RWRA2
- Sumo but burst motors are banned
- All weapons do no damage. Flippers might have to be banned too
- Another Emergency Exit, or a different boss rush style tournament
Thoughts?
Tournament ideas:That third one seems like a good spectator sport.
- Parsec RWRA2
- Sumo but burst motors are banned
- All weapons do no damage. Flippers might have to be banned too
- Another Emergency Exit, or a different boss rush style tournament
Thoughts?
an idea.Better idea: new teammate every round, the winning pair do a 1v1 to determine the champion
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A Team Tag Tournament, but you don't need to find partner.
First off, you join the tournament. After the sign up over, I will show which guys you teamed up with.
Shuffle Mates? More like, Shuffle Man.
an idea.Better idea: new teammate every round, the winning pair do a 1v1 to determine the champion
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A Team Tag Tournament, but you don't need to find partner.
First off, you join the tournament. After the sign up over, I will show which guys you teamed up with.
Shuffle Mates? More like, Shuffle Man.
Same here. I would love to enter that, especially in a fun meta.an idea.Better idea: new teammate every round, the winning pair do a 1v1 to determine the champion
A Team Tag Tournament, but you don't need to find partner.
First off, you join the tournament. After the sign up over, I will show which guys you teamed up with.
Shuffle Mates? More like, Shuffle Man.
I actually really enjoy that idea
You have to call it tag team tussle 2 then tbhan idea.Better idea: new teammate every round, the winning pair do a 1v1 to determine the champion
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A Team Tag Tournament, but you don't need to find partner.
First off, you join the tournament. After the sign up over, I will show which guys you teamed up with.
Shuffle Mates? More like, Shuffle Man.
why not just build standard since it avoids those problemsWhy not just focus on hosting your own standard tournaments rather than spending your time moaning that nobody else is hosting them?
sorry for helping padre.why not just build standard since it avoids those problemsWhy not just focus on hosting your own standard tournaments rather than spending your time moaning that nobody else is hosting them?
Pretty odd definition of "helping" you got there man.sorry for helping padre.why not just build standard since it avoids those problemsWhy not just focus on hosting your own standard tournaments rather than spending your time moaning that nobody else is hosting them?
I have an idea for a tournament, but I can't do it by myself.Seems like a good idea
It's an DSL2.3 IRL tournament that uses a point system to determine the quality and quantity of entrants you want to bring in.
The idea is to encourage a variety in quality of competitors, like in real life. We kinda already have it with the different levels of skill amongst the various builders here, but I think we can go a step further:
Let's have all builders, pros and not pros, use a system where you can either choose between entering a single, super-effective design, or multiple ineffective designs. It would be REALLY hard to figure out what kind of system it would take to make this balanced and fair, so that someone who enters one try-hard design has as much chance to win as a person who enters 5 sh**ty designs. It's almost like a simulation of money: High-end, powerful bots cost a lot, low-end robots don't. The difference is that we all start with the same amount of points, or cash, but what we do with it is different. You could either enter with 1 good entry or several bad entries. I think it's fair, if it's done right.
What makes for a good design? Something that uses NPC Fasts, is invertible, has a powerful weapon, etc. Anything common that you'd see in try-hard designs. It's ok to make them, but it takes a lot of points. If you have a robot that has a powerful weapon, but can't self-right, or a robot with weak armor, poor drive, etc, then that takes up less points, meaning you can make multiple low-end bots.
It's just an idea, and idea I can't do by myself. What do you all think?
I have an idea for a tournament, but I can't do it by myself.
It's an DSL2.3 IRL tournament that uses a point system to determine the quality and quantity of entrants you want to bring in.
The idea is to encourage a variety in quality of competitors, like in real life. We kinda already have it with the different levels of skill amongst the various builders here, but I think we can go a step further:
Let's have all builders, pros and not pros, use a system where you can either choose between entering a single, super-effective design, or multiple ineffective designs. It would be REALLY hard to figure out what kind of system it would take to make this balanced and fair, so that someone who enters one try-hard design has as much chance to win as a person who enters 5 sh**ty designs. It's almost like a simulation of money: High-end, powerful bots cost a lot, low-end robots don't. The difference is that we all start with the same amount of points, or cash, but what we do with it is different. You could either enter with 1 good entry or several bad entries. I think it's fair, if it's done right.
What makes for a good design? Something that uses NPC Fasts, is invertible, has a powerful weapon, etc. Anything common that you'd see in try-hard designs. It's ok to make them, but it takes a lot of points. If you have a robot that has a powerful weapon, but can't self-right, or a robot with weak armor, poor drive, etc, then that takes up less points, meaning you can make multiple low-end bots.
It's just an idea, and idea I can't do by myself. What do you all think?
I have an idea for a tournament, but I can't do it by myself.
It's an DSL2.3 IRL tournament that uses a point system to determine the quality and quantity of entrants you want to bring in.
The idea is to encourage a variety in quality of competitors, like in real life. We kinda already have it with the different levels of skill amongst the various builders here, but I think we can go a step further:
Let's have all builders, pros and not pros, use a system where you can either choose between entering a single, super-effective design, or multiple ineffective designs. It would be REALLY hard to figure out what kind of system it would take to make this balanced and fair, so that someone who enters one try-hard design has as much chance to win as a person who enters 5 sh**ty designs. It's almost like a simulation of money: High-end, powerful bots cost a lot, low-end robots don't. The difference is that we all start with the same amount of points, or cash, but what we do with it is different. You could either enter with 1 good entry or several bad entries. I think it's fair, if it's done right.
What makes for a good design? Something that uses NPC Fasts, is invertible, has a powerful weapon, etc. Anything common that you'd see in try-hard designs. It's ok to make them, but it takes a lot of points. If you have a robot that has a powerful weapon, but can't self-right, or a robot with weak armor, poor drive, etc, then that takes up less points, meaning you can make multiple low-end bots.
It's just an idea, and idea I can't do by myself. What do you all think?
Intriguing entry balancing. I'd be down.
Heads up, no one uses 2.3 tbh, it's just 2.2 with some new things that dont sway people to jump over.
sure, at least we won't have any arguments about "it's too tryhard" or "it's not realistic" when this game is one of the worst if you really want to play a realistic robot combat sim