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Title: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Closed!
Post by: yugitom on May 25, 2014, 06:31:29 AM
This is my idea for a 'Father and Son' tournament.
Concept:
This tournament will be a tag team tournament with 8 teams of 2. The reason it is 'Father and Son' is because the teams have to be a Heavyweight robot (601-800kg) and a similar version of that robot in lightweight form (up to 249). This means that entrants will get two robots to participate with each but they need to be similar and one of them has to be heavyweight and the other has to be lightweight.

Rules:
Both robots must fit the weight limit.
All robots are to be made in the botlab of DSL 2.1 (no custom components or editing the bot outside of the botlab but custom smartzones are allowed).
The IRL rule is being used (so no robots you wouldn't see in real life).
Due to the above rule, the inside of the robot remains IRL as well (in other words, no stacking of battery packs, etc.)
Full body spinners and multibots are banned.
No use of glitches whatsoever.
Cheatbot2 is banned (however, one Judge Burst Motor per bot is allowed.)
The robots must have at least 2 wheels touching the ground and can show controlled movement. However, if the robot is a walker, this rule does not apply and it gets a 100kg weight increase.
Any Havok Explosions that occur will result in the match being restarted. When one team have caused the match to restart due to Havok Explosions more than twice, that team is disqualified.
The BBEANS 2 arena will be used and every match will last 3 minutes.

Notes:
I will be doing all the AI (I may be new to the forum but I'm quite good at AIing. I have posted some evidence on my profile already that I can AI. You can AI your own bots if you wish).
Robots must be checked by me before they can be accepted. Any robots that don't meet the requirements stated will be rejected, but you can still attempt to enter with another.
Byebots will be used if necessary and I will take part in the tournament myself if I am running low on entries.
All entries will be accepted on a first-come first-served basis.
A final note, just because I am new to the forum, doesn't mean I can't AI and organize a tournament. I will be fully dedicated to this tournament if it goes the right way.

I am now taking entries:
1. El Chickenado w/ Snugglebot Evo + Son of Sungglebot
2. RedAce w/ Hurricane + Twister
3. nicsan2009 w/ I Didn't Do It + Maybe I Did
4. Elementos w/ Atom + Molecule
5. Mouldy King Bash w/ Acid Thunder + Acid Cloud
6. TommyProductionsInc w/ VDX-MK2 + VDX-MINI
7. 090901 w/ THWACK! + WACK!
8. helloface199 w/ Dexterity Lite + Daddy Dexterity
Orange - I have received your entry and I am about to check it.
Blue - Your entry has passed checking and is going on to AI.
Green - Your entry is accepted.
Red - Your robot has a problem (you'll stay on the list until it's fixed but you can be replaced.)
I will notify anyone who hasn't passed checking and ask them whether they want to try again or leave the tournament.
P.S. Thank you to everyone that has allowed this to go to sign-ups!

SBV:
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: cephalopod on May 25, 2014, 12:51:01 PM
You may want to rethink your cheatbot rules - many of the components are crazily overpowered. The BattleBots tournaments have a good set of allowed components, also, I'm assuming this is DSL from the cheatbot components?
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 25, 2014, 01:32:26 PM
You may want to rethink your cheatbot rules - many of the components are crazily overpowered. The BattleBots tournaments have a good set of allowed components, also, I'm assuming this is DSL from the cheatbot components?
Okay, I was thinking about changing the list and cheatbot was the first thing that came to mind and I think I may just ban cheatbot altogether.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: nicsan2009 on May 25, 2014, 01:35:29 PM
I think if we want to AI our own bots we should be allowed to imo.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 25, 2014, 01:37:19 PM
I think if we want to AI our own bots we should be allowed to imo.
That's fine, less work for me! :)
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: cephalopod on May 25, 2014, 02:02:02 PM
Things are less complicated if you ban cheatbot. Perhaps allowing just the Judge Burst is a viable idea.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: R1885 on May 25, 2014, 02:06:27 PM
Another DSL IRL. Welp, that's another tournament I won't enter.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 25, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
Things are less complicated if you ban cheatbot. Perhaps allowing just the Judge Burst is a viable idea.
I think I will keep the 1 Judge Motor per bot thing.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: Badnik96 on May 25, 2014, 02:19:01 PM
Another DSL IRL. Welp, that's another tournament I won't enter.
How ironic, the person that in a way started the IRL building style won't even enter them anymore :P

I might enter, I'll see if I can throw together a LW version of one of my existing heavies or vice versa.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: R1885 on May 25, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Another DSL IRL. Welp, that's another tournament I won't enter.
How ironic, the person that in a way started the IRL building style won't even enter them anymore :P
IRL was intended to be a one off, I had no intention of it for it to take off as a building sub style. Stranger things have happened here :baffled:
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: Scrapyard24c on May 25, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
I know one person here may like the idea I have for the Lightweight entry if they can catch on to the name.  "From the United States of America: Eviction Notice"
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: RedAce on May 25, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
I like this idea with different classes on a tag team. I probably would've done something like LW & MW, or HW & SHW. But I still like how this is done.

Also do lightweights have a minimum weight class in this tournament or do they strictly have to be 249.0?
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 25, 2014, 04:44:55 PM
I like this idea with different classes on a tag team. I probably would've done something like LW & MW, or HW & SHW. But I still like how this is done.

Also do lightweights have a minimum weight class in this tournament or do they strictly have to be 249.0?
First, thank you for the positive comment and second, lightweights are 0.1kg to 249.0kg. I guess teams technically have a choice of ant, beetle or lightweight but in this case, they will be counted as lightweight.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: El Chickenado on May 25, 2014, 05:07:32 PM
Things are less complicated if you ban cheatbot. Perhaps allowing just the Judge Burst is a viable idea.
allow the lifter motor too that is not even as good as the judge burst but i love it anyways and would love to use it
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 25, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Things are less complicated if you ban cheatbot. Perhaps allowing just the Judge Burst is a viable idea.
allow the lifter motor too that is not even as good as the judge burst but i love it anyways and would love to use it
Well... Okay... I guess I'll make an exception. Go ahead.  :thumbup
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: El Chickenado on May 25, 2014, 05:37:15 PM
Things are less complicated if you ban cheatbot. Perhaps allowing just the Judge Burst is a viable idea.
allow the lifter motor too that is not even as good as the judge burst but i love it anyways and would love to use it
Well... Okay... I guess I'll make an exception. Go ahead.  :thumbup
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Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: Natster-104 on May 26, 2014, 03:48:59 AM
I think I might enter this... looks pretty good
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: Avalanche on May 26, 2014, 03:56:26 AM
I know one person here may like the idea I have for the Lightweight entry if they can catch on to the name.  "From the United States of America: Eviction Notice"
I only know the weapon Eviction Notice from TF2.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: cephalopod on May 26, 2014, 06:02:58 AM
This is my idea for a 'Father and Son' tournament.
Concept:
This tournament will be a tag team tournament with 8 teams of 2. The reason it is 'Father and Son' is because the teams have to be a Heavyweight robot (601-800kg) and a similar version of that robot in lightweight form (up to 249). This means that entrants will get two robots to participate with each but they need to be similar and one of them has to be heavyweight and the other has to be lightweight.

Rules:
Both robots must fit the weight limit.
All robots are to be made in the botlab of DSL 2.1 (no custom components or editing the bot outside of the botlab but custom smartzones are allowed).
The IRL rule is being used (so no robots you wouldn't see in real life).
Due to the above rule, the inside of the robot remains IRL as well (in other words, no stacking of battery packs, etc.)
Full body spinners and multibots are banned.
No use of glitches whatsoever.
Cheatbot2 is banned (however, one Judge Burst Motor per bot is allowed.)
The robots must have at least 2 wheels touching the ground and can show controlled movement. However, if the robot is a walker, this rule does not apply and it gets a 100kg weight increase.
Any Havok Explosions that occur will result in the match being restarted. When one team have caused the match to restart due to Havok Explosions more than twice, that team is disqualified.
The BBEANS 2 arena will be used and every match will last 3 minutes.

Notes:
I will be doing all the AI (I may be new to the forum but I'm quite good at AIing. I have posted some evidence on my profile already that I can AI. You can AI your own bots if you wish).
Robots must be checked by me before they can be accepted. Any robots that don't meet the requirements stated will be rejected, but you can still attempt to enter with another.
Byebots will be used if necessary and I will take part in the tournament myself if I am running low on entries.
All entries will be accepted on a first-come first-served basis.
A final note, just because I am new the forum, doesn't mean I can't AI and organize a tournament. I will be fully dedicated to this tournament if it goes the right way.

These are the rules and these now cannot change, this is a signups topic.
You have 3 months. Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: thesnowingsteak on May 26, 2014, 06:42:05 AM
OK did anyone else really think it war and actual farther and son tournament.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: cephalopod on May 26, 2014, 06:42:41 AM
No. I read the rules. :P
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: El Chickenado on May 26, 2014, 06:44:15 AM
wew!
sos stands for son of snugglebot
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: Natster-104 on May 26, 2014, 06:53:38 AM
Lol just realised yug1tom has my old avatar, what a coincidence xD
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 07:12:48 AM
Lol just realised yug1tom has my old avatar, what a coincidence xD
Wow, really? It wasn't intentional!
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 07:24:34 AM
wew!
sos stands for son of snugglebot
I have a question to ask about when you want your weapons to be used. Do you want the Vlad Spikes to be the main attack and then the Shovel and Vlad Spikes to be the shrimech? This is how I will do it if you do not reply otherwise.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: El Chickenado on May 26, 2014, 07:26:14 AM
dont do anything with the just spikes setting use the sewer snake esq setting and put the smartzone inbetween the spikes on the top of my bot
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 07:28:51 AM
dont do anything with the just spikes setting use the sewer snake esq setting and put the smartzone inbetween the spikes on the top of my bot
Okay, I will AI your bot and as soon as I'm done, I will inform you (you should know anyway because I am updating the entry board whenever something crops up.)

P.S. A great team you have there, they're practically the same as each other.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: El Chickenado on May 26, 2014, 08:10:51 AM
dont do anything with the just spikes setting use the sewer snake esq setting and put the smartzone inbetween the spikes on the top of my bot
Okay, I will AI your bot and as soon as I'm done, I will inform you (you should know anyway because I am updating the entry board whenever something crops up.)

P.S. A great team you have there, they're practically the same as each other.
yeah thats because the lw is made out of the hw because making copies is hard
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 08:26:31 AM

yeah thats because the lw is made out of the hw because making copies is hard
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Just to inform you on the situation, your LW is fine and is working but the HW seems to have some forward heading problems but it should be able to be fixed before 8 entries have been signed.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: El Chickenado on May 26, 2014, 08:32:15 AM

yeah thats because the lw is made out of the hw because making copies is hard
Just to inform you on the situation, your LW is fine and is working but the HW seems to have some forward heading problems but it should be able to be fixed before 8 entries have been signed.
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what?
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 08:34:04 AM
Don't worry about, it's just that your bot seems to go in reverse when facing forward.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: El Chickenado on May 26, 2014, 08:35:34 AM
Don't worry about, it's just that you bot seems to go in reverse when facing forward.
i entered this same bot in a tourney and received none of those problems  :confused:
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 08:38:41 AM
Don't worry, it's fixed now. I think the guys that AIed your robot before had to make a certain adjustment. You got the clockwise/anti-clockwise thing wrong on the HW's forward and backward. I've adjusted it now to make it run correctly and it's now ready for the tournament.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: cephalopod on May 26, 2014, 08:39:14 AM
I imagine they fixed it themselves, yeah.
Remember, you're under no obligation to AI it amazingly, as long as it works as expected.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 08:40:33 AM
I imagine they fixed it themselves, yeah.
Remember, you're under no obligation to AI it amazingly, as long as it works as expected.
I know but I had to make that change for it to work at all and now it does.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: nicsan2009 on May 26, 2014, 04:51:48 PM
Sent my killer combo ;)
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 05:36:03 PM
Sent my killer combo ;)
And I have received them! Pretty good robots to say the least.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: Mr. AS on May 26, 2014, 05:47:33 PM
You have video editing software (sony vegas, windows movie maker, etc) and a program to record matches with, right?
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 26, 2014, 06:06:56 PM
You have video editing software (sony vegas, windows movie maker, etc) and a program to record matches with, right?
Of course! I'm not coming in unprepared!
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: nicsan2009 on May 26, 2014, 07:02:47 PM
You have video editing software (sony vegas, windows movie maker, etc) and a program to record matches with, right?
Of course! I'm not coming in unprepared!
I like this guy.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: El Chickenado on May 26, 2014, 07:03:30 PM
You have video editing software (sony vegas, windows movie maker, etc) and a program to record matches with, right?
Of course! I'm not coming in unprepared!
I like this guy.
seconded
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: Badnik96 on May 26, 2014, 07:45:13 PM
Good to see a newbie who is jumping into things with the proper knowledge and not before.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: Scrapyard24c on May 26, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
I know one person here may like the idea I have for the Lightweight entry if they can catch on to the name.  "From the United States of America: Eviction Notice"
I only know the weapon Eviction Notice from TF2.

You may recall a robot called Death Warrant in Battlebots 6?
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: nicsan2009 on May 26, 2014, 10:27:32 PM
Oh and hey your list skips from 2 to 4.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament
Post by: yugitom on May 27, 2014, 03:12:44 AM
You have video editing software (sony vegas, windows movie maker, etc) and a program to record matches with, right?
Of course! I'm not coming in unprepared!
I like this guy.
seconded
Good to see a newbie who is jumping into things with the proper knowledge and not before.
Thank all of you for the positive comments about me and it's because of these that I'll be sure not to let you guys down.
Oh and hey your list skips from 2 to 4.
Indeed it does, I'll have to change that.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: Mouldy on May 29, 2014, 08:21:52 PM
Send you my bots later.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: Scrapyard24c on May 30, 2014, 07:56:15 AM
Currently working on Death Warrant's little brother, Eviction Notice.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: Jakewilliamson on May 30, 2014, 09:24:10 AM
May work on 640's LW and HW.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on May 30, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
Send you my bots later.
The bots you sent are successfully entered.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: Elementos on May 30, 2014, 04:12:25 PM
I'm super hyped for this.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on May 30, 2014, 04:39:38 PM
I'm super hyped for this.
Me too. And, from the looks of the robots already sent, this will be a good tournament (especially for my first one.)
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: Elementos on May 30, 2014, 05:09:37 PM
I'm super hyped for this.
Me too. And, from the looks of the robots already sent, this will be a good tournament (especially for my first one.)

It should be. Also, just a quick question, how will you be deciding battles that time out? Are you going to be leaving it to points or a judges decision? If it's the latter than I'll offer my assistance if required. :)
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: El Chickenado on May 30, 2014, 05:17:52 PM
I'm super hyped for this.
Me too. And, from the looks of the robots already sent, this will be a good tournament (especially for my first one.)

It should be. Also, just a quick question, how will you be deciding battles that time out? Are you going to be leaving it to points or a judges decision? If it's the latter than I'll offer my assistance if required. :)
i will also help judge if that is the way
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on May 30, 2014, 05:45:56 PM
I'm super hyped for this.
Me too. And, from the looks of the robots already sent, this will be a good tournament (especially for my first one.)

It should be. Also, just a quick question, how will you be deciding battles that time out? Are you going to be leaving it to points or a judges decision? If it's the latter than I'll offer my assistance if required. :)
i will also help judge if that is the way
I won't leave it to points because it is a really unreliabe system to base a match off. I will be judging the matches myself but if I think that the match is tough to decide on then I would happily have your input. However, if a match has your robot in, you won't be able to judge that match.

Also, robot wars rules, matches will be judged on style, control, damage and aggression.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: Elementos on May 30, 2014, 06:36:39 PM
I'm super hyped for this.
Me too. And, from the looks of the robots already sent, this will be a good tournament (especially for my first one.)

It should be. Also, just a quick question, how will you be deciding battles that time out? Are you going to be leaving it to points or a judges decision? If it's the latter than I'll offer my assistance if required. :)
i will also help judge if that is the way
I won't leave it to points because it is a really unreliabe system to base a match off. I will be judging the matches myself but if I think that the match is tough to decide on then I would happily have your input. However, if a match has your robot in, you won't be able to judge that match.

Also, robot wars rules, matches will be judged on style, control, damage and aggression.

Good to hear. :)
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: TommyProductionsInc on May 30, 2014, 07:49:01 PM
Here's my entries:
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on May 30, 2014, 08:15:15 PM
Here's my entries:
I regret to inform you that your lightweight robot is overweight by 7kg. Do you want to make some changes to make it 249kg or less?
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: TommyProductionsInc on May 30, 2014, 10:47:19 PM
Here's my entries:
I regret to inform you that your lightweight robot is overweight by 7kg. Do you want to make some changes to make it 249kg or less?
Uhhh...
Hm, I didn't know it was overweight, I guess I somehow missed that.
I'll fix that and then re-send it to you. ;)
Edit:
I don't know about you, but it's perfectly fine in my game.
Does your copy of DSL have the right armor tab?
It may explain it.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on May 30, 2014, 11:17:47 PM
Here's my entries:
I regret to inform you that your lightweight robot is overweight by 7kg. Do you want to make some changes to make it 249kg or less?
Uhhh...
Hm, I didn't know it was overweight, I guess I somehow missed that.
I'll fix that and then re-send it to you. ;)
Edit:
I don't know about you, but it's perfectly fine in my game.
Does your copy of DSL have the right armor tab?
It may explain it.
In my game, it's 256kg, 7kg overweight. Is this the same for you?
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: 090901 on May 30, 2014, 11:19:12 PM
In my game, it's 256kg, 7kg overweight. Is this the same for you?
I downloaded Tommy's bot and checked and it weighs 248kg, so it must have something to do with your game.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on May 30, 2014, 11:28:01 PM
In my game, it's 256kg, 7kg overweight. Is this the same for you?
I downloaded Tommy's bot and checked and it weighs 248kg, so it must have something to do with your game.
Okay then. My game has never done anything like that before. Thanks for the verification, 090901.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: Avalanche on May 31, 2014, 10:09:13 AM
Welcome to RA2: The most mentally ill game there is on this earth.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: helloface on May 31, 2014, 05:41:16 PM
Starting work on a couple entries now.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on May 31, 2014, 05:44:25 PM
Starting work on a couple entries now.
Good to know. Do you know when they will be done?
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on June 02, 2014, 10:22:50 AM
IMPORTANT UPDATE! *MR. AS WARNING TOO*

There is only one space left on the board so if you want to join, send your entries now, it is first come first served.

Mr. AS, you need to send your lightweight or your entry is invalid.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: 090901 on June 02, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
Sent, hopefully you aren't talking about SnS when you said Full Body Spinners or my bots aren't allowed  :dumb)
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Open
Post by: yugitom on June 02, 2014, 11:09:16 AM
Your robot is fine, you have replaced Mr. AS. Sorry dude, just weren't quick enough.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Closed!
Post by: yugitom on June 02, 2014, 11:33:14 AM
All places have been filled and all robots in those spaces are accepted. Just gotta make the splashes and stuff now and then I'll go on to making the videos.
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Closed!
Post by: Avalanche on June 02, 2014, 11:36:36 AM
I JUST MADE MY BOTS TOO!
Title: Re: Father and Son Tournament - Signups Closed!
Post by: yugitom on June 02, 2014, 11:40:27 AM
I JUST MADE MY BOTS TOO!
Well... I do have a pair of rejected bots from Mr. AS. I don't won't any of your work to go to waste, so I could always host a side event with your bots versus Mr. AS's. Would you want this?