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Robot Arena Matches => Tournaments => Tournament Archives => Topic started by: ianh05 on April 23, 2013, 01:23:50 AM
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Description:
Bots that evolve! Each member sends a LW, MW and HW, the catch is that the bots must be the same bot type and must be an "evolved" form of the lower weight class (keep the same basic design/look). Think Pokemon but with robots! hybrids would be allowed with up to a maximum of 2 weapon systems, in this tournament both robots will evolve after each round creating a 3 round match between all evolutions.
Rules:
*Stock LW, MW and HW.
*Multi-bots are not allowed.
*Hybrids are allowed as long as they only use 2 weapon systems/types and the types must be the same for all evolutions.
*All 3 robots must have the same basic design (look).
*No Nasty Pickles, Bumble bots, Trinity Flyers, Crawlers or any other cheap robots.
*No Venko-style Bumble balls (Cheap Norris style bots).
*Robots must show controlled movement and have at least 2 wheel drive.
*Standard in-game glitches (such as axle loading) allowed.
*No AAM, Hax mode, Trov glitch, BFE or any other nonsense.
*No uberstack glitch.
*No Cheatbot2.
*AI parts are allowed but...
*No 140cm extender.
*No trying to find loopholes, you should know what "Stock" means.
*Best 2 out of 3 rounds using all 3 entries (1 bot per round starting with LW and HW going last).
*Double Elimination.
*I will restart matches due to match-altering glitches only.
*Robots that cause 2 glitches will be eliminated and given the loss.
*All matches will take place in the (possibly re-skinned) combat arena.
*All matches will be 3 minutes in length.
*I can AI all basic bots, anything odd will require you to AI it yourself (for best results, if you can AI better than me I suggest you AI your entries).
*Spinning weapons on a SnS are allowed as long as the spinning weapon motors are positioned outside the chassis.
*Ramming weapons are anything in a position or at an angle to do significant damage.
*16 entries max.
*This tournaments AI pack may be released to the public.
*Everyone must name their bots like a pokemon evolution family (group/team themed similar names, like my entries for example).
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Entries
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My entries:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57092Evo-bot%20complete.jpg)
Entry list:
1.ianh05
2.Mazakari
3.Mechadino
4.Venko
5.Kurt Wylde
6.Wolfsbane
7.R1885
8.GameKing3
9.Mr. AwesumSauce
10.090901
11.Clickbeetle
12.Kill343gs
13.Virus Bomb
14.RPJK
15.Mystic2000
16.Fracture
Normal text colour = Have shown interest in entering.
Green = Entry received and accepted.
Red = Update needed.
Deadline Countdown:
Time Expired!
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This should now be ready for sign-up voting.
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everyone who enters better name their bots like a pokemon evolution family
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"*Everyone must name their bots like a pokemon evolution family (group/team themed similar names, like my entries for example)." :gawe:
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Hmm, I'll give it a bash.
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Hmm, I'll give it a bash.
Ghost themed bots? :gawe:
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Hmm, I'll give it a bash.
Ghost themed bots? :gawe:
May as well.
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Added poll and a new rule - *No Venko-style Bumble balls (Cheap Norris style bots), it's basically a cheap robot which was against the rules anyway but this clears things up.
Also pretty sure this can be moved to sign-ups. Voting on ARBBC awards will take some time seeing as there are 21 awards so I would like to start the sign-ups for this tournament.
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*No Venko-style Bumble balls (Cheap Norris style bots), it's basically a cheap robot which was against the rules anyway but this clears things up.
You are swimming in a dangerous waters...
1. You are just upset with your loss from it, next time build a better bot, instead of accusing me of an illegal entry.
2. It's a completely legal bot for the Tusslers 2 rules, and that's why it's not removed.
3. "Cheap" is a word which lays on your personal hate against this bot (as Naryar hate crawlers for example, and I hate popups, but we don't ban them in our tournaments...).
3. You are basically banning all VSs from your tournament, since there are no clear rules, what is VS and what "cheap" bot.
4. You allowed Insect in your tournament, so I don't see how the adding of some HSs to it, makes it illegal.
The rules and the decisions are up to you for this one, but you will have to accept the consequences later.
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What the heck man? Why do you think I'm upset with losing? You clearly know that it was a cheap tatic because you named it Cheap Norris..
Insect, Cyborg II and Encroaching Darkness were allowed and would be allowed again because they have attempted to protect the drive and extenders when clearly Cheap Norris does not, this is the difference between legal and illegal (for my tournaments unless stated otherwise), cheap and legit.
Yes it was legal in Tusslers but here it isn't, this is to prevent people from using the same tactic this isn't me hating on you for winning against me.
What consequences? Man you need to chill out a bit.
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Good call, I was going to ban the type in any of my further tournaments as well, Ian. It's just not cricket, quite frankly.
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Venko. Chill. Seriously.
Everyone pretty much thinks your bot is cheap, you even called it cheap for heck's sake, and yet you go all Don Quixote when someone else bans this design for another tournament for being cheap. Way to be hypocritical man.
You have rights to defend it because 090901 allowed it, but going all mean mode and doing a personal attack because someone else thought it was cheap and didn't want some in his tournament ? Stupid move man.
You have been warned for randomly attacking other people for no reason in places you shouldn't really be... don't make it again !
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What the heck man? Why do you think I'm upset with losing?
First, I work with an arguments. Then, why the problems came exactly after your loss, but not on the first look at it?
You clearly know that it was a cheap tatic because you named it Cheap Norris...
Because, I knew that ALL THIS could happen.
Insect, Cyborg II and Encroaching Darkness were allowed and would be allowed again because they have attempted to protect the drive and extenders when clearly Cheap Norris does not, this is the difference between legal and illegal (for my tournaments unless stated otherwise), cheap and legit.
Insect and CN have the same basis, I just changed the weapons (HSs for no countdown), and moved the protection from the extenders to the chassis. Trovaner saw my early attempt of this bot, I just didn't have an enough weight to protect the drive too, that's why I even used the 140s. The Insect and the CN "legs" are equally easy (at general) to break, and the both bots goes in a spike-ball mode. So, what if I protect those extenders?
Yes it was legal in Tusslers but here it isn't, this is to prevent people from using the same tactic this isn't me hating on you for winning against me.
It's not like it gonna win it, plus it's a "certain type" counter bot, and as you saw, it was countered and defeated as well. So no "unbeatable" advantage here, which a bumple ball WILL have. Self-damaging weapons, not-so-much-24-maces and other disadvantages as well.
What consequences? Man you need to chill out a bit. ?
Just don't take this personal, I can't even enter (neither plan) to enter such a thing here (also no 140s here), but starting a discussion about an unfair banning of a bot type (IMO) is unavoidable. Keep in mind, that it's up to me to decide how to enter LEGALLY (innovative, cheap, clever or whatever), and I'm not an "OK guy" just to sit and watch a banning of bots of mine, when it's unfair IMO. You are stopping the innovations this way, and my advice to you is, to start a list - which bot types are allowed and which one not, including my new bot types, and such that I'm about to discover in the future.
At least, post a pic for the newbies, 'cos I doubt they know what a CN is, when they read your rules...
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Venko. Chill. Seriously.
Everyone pretty much thinks your bot is cheap, you even called it cheap for heck's sake, and yet you go all Don Quixote when someone else bans this design for another tournament for being cheap. Way to be hypocritical man.
You have rights to defend it because 090901 allowed it, but going all mean mode and doing a personal attack because someone else thought it was cheap and didn't want some in his tournament ? Stupid move man.
You have been warned for randomly attacking other people for no reason in places you shouldn't really be... don't make it again !
:facepalm: :fail: for Nar, is all I can say... When you decide, that this is a personal attack, but not an discussion?
IF I HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST IANH PERSONALY, I WILL TELL IT TO HIM IN MSN! GO ASK HIM!
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:facepalm: :fail: for Nar, is all I can say... When you decide, that this is a personal attack, but not an discussion?
IF I HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST IANH PERSONALY, I WILL TELL IT TO HIM IN MSN! GO ASK HIM!
Hint : I'm the moderator here, I decide what is tolerable and not tolerable. This isn't.
Not all of your arguments are a personal attack, but two of them are. Hell even ianh felt attacked, and I felt he was too. Instead of a discussion, all you have done is make ianh go all defensive.
See, you are even shouting (or the Internet equivalent thereof) and escalating this argument. I don't want a flame war here.
If you want to solve this with ianh why not go to MSN and discuss ? Or at least ask it calmly instead of shouting ?
anyways, if I see this escalate anyone who is responsible will be punished.
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Sign-ups are now open guys :mrgreen: .
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im really hoping nobody just takes the easy route and make a 9HS/18HS/36HS combo.
ian, if my mw and hw have a wedge, am i allowed to leave my lw wedgeless...? because of weight restrictions and all.
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im really hoping nobody just takes the easy route and make a 9HS/18HS/36HS combo.
ian, if my mw and hw have a wedge, am i allowed to leave my lw wedgeless...? because of weight restrictions and all.
Sure, just fit as much signature stuff on as you can.
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im really hoping nobody just takes the easy route and make a 9HS/18HS/36HS combo.
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED (jk)
*Spinning weapons on a SnS are allowed as long as they are positioned outside the chassis.
Example of a robot that breaks this rule? Does this basically mean only the spinning weapons can't pass through the chassis, or the tribar/disc, too?
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Im bout' to go make three bots for this right now...
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*Spinning weapons on a SnS are allowed as long as they are positioned outside the chassis.
Example of a robot that breaks this rule? Does this basically mean only the spinning weapons can't pass through the chassis, or the tribar/disc, too?
Spin Cycle 2 would be an example of a bot that breaks the rule.
HS/SnS hybrid (if the bot spins with the weapon):
(https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/images/5/50/Spin_Cycle_2_Pic_2.jpg)
People should now know the difference between a SnS and a HS/SnS hybrid for my tournaments. Basically if it looks like this kind of HS and acts like a SnS it's a hybrid. The weakness of a SnS should be it's exposed weapon/drive motors.
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Oh, then I think you want to say "as long as the weapon motors are positioned outside the chassis" or just "No HS that behave as an SnS".
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Indeed, re-worded the rule:
*Spinning weapons on a SnS are allowed as long as the spinning weapon motors are positioned outside the chassis.
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Can you save me a spot, just in case? I have an idea for a team, just can't build today, and don't want to be left out if this fills up in 2 or 3 days
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I highly doubt they will fill up that fast, it'll probably take some people 2 weeks to get their entries in based on the time it took people to get their ARBBC entries in.
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I sooooo want to build for this ugh why do i suck
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I sooooo want to build for this ugh why do i suck
You could always make an Evo-bot for one of the bots you already have like stratocaster or MPGW.
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I don't want to thwart the fun, so there will be no "team MIDF" or "team THEY CAME FROM THE SECRET FOLDER" from me. :laughing However, I still can't come up with a good idea, so my entering could be not soon.
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Just make sure they all use the same theme and the evolutions seem Pokemon-esque. Don't just name them MiDF LW, MiDF MW, MiDF HW or anything like that.
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Just make sure they all use the same theme and the evolutions seem Pokemon-esque. Don't just name them MiDF LW, MiDF MW, MiDF HW or anything like that.
Sadly, I'm too old to know, what that Pokemon sh** is. But don't worry, I will be more creative with the names. My offer for you to post a pic of CN was serious, since only I have such a bot for now, do you want me to make a screenshot of it for you? (some wanting to enter newbies may not know about this bot, so it's a good idea)
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It's basically picking an item or something and going from weak to strong with different names all based on that type of object. I don't see how any noobs are going to build a bot like Cheap Norris so there's no need for a pic.
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Is something like "Sunray" evolves into "Sunlight" and evolves into "Solar Flare" fine
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Is something like "Sunray" evolves into "Sunlight" and evolves into "Solar Flare" fine
yup.
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ok so my sun themed team shall be ready soon
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So it's like the opposite of ARBBC... instead of all bots being different, they must all be the same.
im really hoping nobody just takes the easy route and make a 9HS/18HS/36HS combo.
If they do, and if I can manage to make a LW popup/rammer hybrid that doesn't fail horribly, they will have to deal with Cold Spell, Cold Snap, and Cold Front 3.
I really want to enter Cold Snap and Cold Front but that LW is going to be a pain to build. :rage
Question: Can a non-hybrid "evolve" into a hybrid? Like if I had a LW wammer, and MW and HW popup/wammers. There is precedence in Pokemon... (Trapinch > Vibrava > Flygon, for one).
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So it's like the opposite of ARBBC... instead of all bots being different, they must all be the same.
im really hoping nobody just takes the easy route and make a 9HS/18HS/36HS combo.
If they do, and if I can manage to make a LW popup/rammer hybrid that doesn't fail horribly, they will have to deal with Cold Spell, Cold Snap, and Cold Front 3.
I really want to enter Cold Snap and Cold Front but that LW is going to be a pain to build. :rage
Question: Can a non-hybrid "evolve" into a hybrid? Like if I had a LW wammer, and MW and HW popup/wammers. There is precedence in Pokemon... (Trapinch > Vibrava > Flygon, for one).
It needs to contain as many features as possible at least visually, for a rammer/popup you could place wamming razors on the top of the bot. This would give it the illusion of it evolving and learning to use those razors, but to answer your question more precisely a non-hybrid can evolve into a hybrid.
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Deadline Countdown:
Time Expired!
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Updated entry list
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1.ianh05
2.Mazakari
3.Mechadino
4.Kurt Wylde
5.Mr. AwesumSauce
6.Fracture
7.Wolfsbane
8.kill343gs
9.Venko
10.Mystic2000
11.Clickbeetle
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15.
16.
Normal text colour = Have shown interest in entering.
Green = Entry received and accepted.
Red = Update needed.
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Do i have a saved spot until i update my bot?
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You'll have until the deadline to update it, if you can't update it before then you'll be replaced by the next person to submit a full legal team.
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Okay, Great.
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I want in on this. Lets see if I can break this funk i'm in.
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I'll get a team together for this after I'm done with my finals.
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Just spent 3 days coming up with a theme that won't suck in the LW division. Don't worry Ian, it's coming.
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Ill enter with revised team Psynergetic
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Venko's team received and accepted.
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Entering with Clyde, Clyde, and Clyde. Just got to sort out Clyde and I'll be finished.
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Entering with Clyde, Clyde, and Clyde. Just got to sort out Clyde and I'll be finished.
They need to be evolutions, not the same :rage
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Entering with Clyde, Clyde, and Clyde. Just got to sort out Clyde and I'll be finished.
They need to be evolutions, not the same :rage
Small Clyde, Clyde, Big Clyde?
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Entering with Clyde, Clyde, and Clyde. Just got to sort out Clyde and I'll be finished.
They need to be evolutions, not the same :rage
Small Clyde, Clyde, Big Clyde?
"Clyde", " Clyde" and "Clyde "?
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Let's just say Clyde is too cool to change his name or form during evolutions, he just gets bigger and better. For the sake of AI'ing i just put (L), (M) and (H) to represent the weight of each bot.
Kurt Wylde's team received and accepted.
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Hoping to send my updates soon.
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Wolfsbane's team received and accepted.
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Struggling but coming along team should be finished soon.
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5 days left still only have 5 and a half entries.
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I think, that suddenly we have a lots of stock tournaments, this will lead to a less entries, NvsF is not getting much too...
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Lot's of people wait until it's closer to the deadline to submit their entries so they don't want to change it when they make a better one.
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Roughly 2 and a half days left, there will be no extensions.
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My Team is very close to being finished. Although i'll be turning them in last minute I guarantee ill make the deadline.
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Updates coming soon.
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Mechadino's entries accepted. Just 1 day left now guys.
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So are you going to make a 6 entries tournament ?
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Could make it a league of 6, maybe?
Might be interesting, something original.
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Clyde, Clyde, and Clyde should hopefully do alright at this.
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So are you going to make a 6 entries tournament ?
If I don't get any more entries, yes. For bye bots I'll see if I can find a few bots in Ultimate Stock AI that could pass as an evo-bot when reskinned.
Could make it a league of 6, maybe?
Might be interesting, something original.
I've already made it double elimination and I can't change the rules sadly.
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R1885's entries received and accepted.
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GameKing3's entries received and accepted.
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Totally forgot about this until right this moment and I cannot build for it right now. Finals week. Bad timing. Sorry.
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Mr. AwesumSauce's Entries received and accepted.
Totally forgot about this until right this moment and I cannot build for it right now. Finals week. Bad timing. Sorry.
Seems like a few people have missed out this time, even Clickbeetle sadly :( he's probably too busy with IRL stuff and DSL3.
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090901's entries received and accepted.