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Title: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Badger on August 18, 2016, 07:07:57 AM

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Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Badger on August 18, 2016, 07:54:39 AM
Splash and groups are up
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: FOTEPX on August 18, 2016, 07:55:07 AM
lmao the act of charizarding has already won this

Props to Badger's VS setup, though. Think I might steal that.
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: WeN on August 18, 2016, 07:56:08 AM
I am not so good at DSL.

But my entrie can do this.
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on August 18, 2016, 09:06:05 AM
I'm against two VS and Wen in my first heat.  Feeling decent about it at the moment.
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: doot on August 18, 2016, 12:26:16 PM
Might as well give my opinion of the 'bots.
Rabid: It certainly looks dangerous. If it can trap a 'bot, it'll win, though wedges could be a problem for it.
Friendly: Again, pretty dangerous. Its awkward shape might hinder it as it looks to have a bit of ground clearance.
Deformed Orange: If that weapon can spin up to full speed, I think it will kill off some robots, but instability after a weapon goes could kill it.
Tekno Destroyer V2: My biggest fear is that it lacks weaponry. It also doesn't help that its extender work is very exposed.
JUNOU JUNOU JUNOU: It's certainly oriented for defense and definitely looks cool, but offense could be another story altogether.
Guy Jean: It looks interesting, being a side hammer/top hammer hybrid, but power could drain too quickly.
Fresh! Sans!: It's using 2 separate burst motors which could hinder its progress, but it has good defense and seems rather agile.
Inspiration Zero 2: It's quite stall-oriented, which could help it. However, the lack of a wedge could be a danger against plowtraps and flywheels.
Nide Day Seven Wow sans: Errr... it's unique? It looks like it won't go too far, I feel.
EDGY BAND NAME: I think it has the potential to do well, but it could be easily attacked by other VS'es.
Fjunkester 2: I quite like the lexan frame, but other than that, it could have problems in the rumbles.
Transmutation: I'm not too sure if 2 flywheels on a perm 132 is better than 2 on separate perm 80's. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Crash Test: The weapon is absolutely vicious, but that's it. It looks like a glass cannon and it's slow to boot.
Tempest: The only treaded 'bot looks quite cool, but I fear the drum-esque weapon won't do much. It is the best designed 'bot of the lot, though.
THE ACT OF CHARIZARDING: Probably the one that could go all the way. It's well armoured, has a powerful weapon and is wedgy.
Mechavore-arephilia: Interesting that my 'bot is last in the list. I hope the anti-plowtrap will do okay, but it is one of the most fragile 'bots, unfortunately. I just hope the weapons are enough to keep others at bay.
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Badger on August 18, 2016, 12:53:38 PM
Fjunkester 2: I quite like the lexan frame, but other than that, it could have problems in the rumbles.
Wat? It's all 1v1s, no rumbles
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: FOTEPX on August 18, 2016, 01:02:49 PM
Transmutation: I'm not too sure if 2 flywheels on a perm 132 is better than 2 on separate perm 80's. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Having two perm 80's instead of one Perm 132 would make the discs 1.5X faster.
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: 090901 on August 18, 2016, 01:05:13 PM
#****vs #teamsh**bots
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: doot on August 18, 2016, 01:47:19 PM
Fjunkester 2: I quite like the lexan frame, but other than that, it could have problems in the rumbles.
Wat? It's all 1v1s, no rumbles
Oh, whoops. I looked at the groupings and just assumed that they were rumbles. Guess its because I am a bit of an eejit. :P
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Badger on August 18, 2016, 03:33:43 PM
Groups vid is up
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: FOTEPX on August 18, 2016, 03:50:45 PM
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: doot on August 18, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on August 18, 2016, 04:30:56 PM
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Badger on August 19, 2016, 07:04:53 AM
Brackets up
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: FOTEPX on August 19, 2016, 07:43:06 AM
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on August 19, 2016, 09:45:39 AM
well that was fast

Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: doot on August 19, 2016, 01:05:29 PM
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: R01 on August 19, 2016, 01:08:17 PM
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: 090901 on August 19, 2016, 01:21:07 PM



Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Badger on August 19, 2016, 02:00:47 PM
Twitch? Eww, switch to Hitbox instead, 7zip(why would you have that open while playing games?) Steam (no uplay and no drm free ones?)
Hitbox has literally no good streams. Literally 0. Not one.

7zip was open because I was checking that I hadn't screwed
AI line, as the creator gave me his AI line. Since it was working so poorly in the group stages I switched it to omni for the brackets.
Uplay is a POS and has no good games. cba with GOG, has less games than steam with fewer sales and I can get everything not ancient on GOG on steam instead. Not sure if desura has DRM but its desura.

On your other points:
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: R01 on August 19, 2016, 07:40:07 PM

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Twitch? Eww, switch to Hitbox instead, 7zip(why would you have that open while playing games?) Steam (no uplay and no drm free ones?)
Hitbox has literally no good streams. Literally 0. Not one.

7zip was open because I was checking that I hadn't screwed
AI line, as the creator gave me his AI line. Since it was working so poorly in the group stages I switched it to omni for the brackets.
Uplay is a POS and has no good games. cba with GOG, has less games than steam with fewer sales and I can get everything not ancient on GOG on steam instead. Not sure if desura has DRM but its desura.

On your other points:
Didn't know that you were watching streams, thought it was for hosting(which I still find hitbox thousands of times better, also mostly use it to stream for friends instead of everyone, maybe that's the reason why you don't see good stuff that common), also wouldn't the browser be enough for that?

I see, good that you did that and double checked.

Uplay is required for stuff that uses their drm, have a lot of fun getting Watchdogs and Farcry 4 on steam where uplay will launch steam, steam launch back to uplay, for uplay to start the game via steam, not kidding, it's a total mess. GOG isn't only about old games(their name used to stand for that but now it's just GOG) and I personally prefer to have my games not locked to a service which requires me to sign to a contract that can retroactively be changed by them. When you get games on steam you own nothing, you only get a license for it, and I'd personally like to own the game just like a physical copy, but hey that's just me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Also fun fact, my bot was originally going to have axle mounted wheel motors but I couldn't get the axles in the way I wanted them, so it's back to static.
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: 090901 on August 19, 2016, 07:43:49 PM
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Badger on August 19, 2016, 07:44:40 PM
Livestreamer doesnt rape my CPU

> Watchdogs
> FC4
yea my point about no good games stands.

I know gog does modern games too, but to me there's literally no reason to buy something on GOG when it's also on steam. There's no point complaining about "ownership" of games on steam, it's totally irrelivant to the consumer experience

idk dude I rushed this out so fast, I need to take more time on my next tournament
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: R01 on August 20, 2016, 08:45:39 AM
Livestreamer doesnt rape my CPU

> Watchdogs
> FC4
yea my point about no good games stands.

I know gog does modern games too, but to me there's literally no reason to buy something on GOG when it's also on steam. There's no point complaining about "ownership" of games on steam, it's totally irrelivant to the consumer experience

idk dude I rushed this out so fast, I need to take more time on my next tournament
Tournament stuff:

Irrelevant? So the fact that I own nothing(while I get to own the game on physical copy) doesn't matter, they can simply shut down my account if I don't agree with their new terms and I won't have any of the bought games.
Steam is a ecosystem that controls the titles you owned and requires you stay in their system to even access your games. Why would I need to be connected to the internet to play a single player game? What if I don't have internet because the ISP messed something up again? Here they're somewhat fast(still means a weekend or three days of wait) but I know of a friend who had to wait 5 months until the ISP had moved over their stuff and updated everything they needed to.

I've been ok with Steam in the past, but the more I learnt about it and the more they changed it, the more I disliked it.
Ever since their new design change their client has been unstable, kept separate logins for your library and community(and hey, that worked so well in Xmas 2015 when you were able to randomly access other accounts), got stuck on videos in the community tab(which needed a restart), refused to connect to the net(required a restart as admin) as well as other issues, and what do you get if you notify them? "It's your PC's fault"
Yeah:

Didn't know that you required a NASA pc to run steam properly.
Then they changed that gifted keys no longer give you a "premium" account, because yeah we needed to lock out users because account scammers(are people really that retarded to believe that a "steam admin" who just looks like a normal user would request them to give the password if the chat even says NEVER SHARE YOUR PASSWORD), as if those account scammers couldn't spend 5$ and then get an account for that stuff, it just scews out users that got games via other ways(what if you can't do online payment for whatever reason but still have the money to get the game) and this now leads to this lovely situation:

Two guys who recently got into PC gaming go into a store and buy a physical copy of a game because their parents don't want them to do any kind of online payment.
The disc only has the steam installer and activation code.
Because of the above mentioned things, both don't have premium accounts and can't add eachother. Brilliant.  :claping

DRM treats the customer as pirate and you get a better experience pirating the game, heck it even helps piracy because that only works if they're well known. DRM keeps the little pirates away but doesn't do anything against the big, who even get to be known better that way.

Don't get why so many people prefer steam, but whatever.

This one was too fast while People's Choice(taking the PC problems into account) was a bit slow, I felt like we could've gotten a video daily there.
Get the time somewhere in between those two and fix the little messups like the VS.py stuff and your tournaments are perfect.
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: Badger on August 20, 2016, 09:10:19 AM
lul I ran steam with literally no problems a month or 2 ago with worse specs than yours. Maybe do a fresh windows install?

Steam is more convenient, has a larger library, makes your games easy to manage and launch with filling your desktop with icons and serves as a very useful social platform. There are a million and one things steam does outside of simple game purchase (chat, the entire community side, non-intrusive DRM, without steam you'd be getting a hell of a lot more AAA games shipping with stuff like SecuROM or SimCity's always online BS).

Anyway, back on topic. Thanks for the feedback, I agree that the pacing was off. Signups took so long to get the final bot in and so many were VS that I kinda got bored of the tournament before it even started. I've updated all my .pys now so I'm good on that.
Title: Re: Clone Clash SBV
Post by: yugitom on August 20, 2016, 09:19:27 AM
Congratulations on a successful tournament. Your host point will be added shortly.