Clash Cubes 3 - Brackets & Videos

[Clickbeetle]

Click, I'm ashamed! You made Kepher to NOT have wedges! Tsk Tsk!

I did some testing in the CC3 arena, and it is actually better with wedges in that arena.

FYI, the purpose of those wedges is not to get under the opponent.  Kheper couldn't care less whether or not it gets under.  The purpose of the wedges is sort of like a KE absorber... a fast bot has a very hard time OOTA'ing Kheper with those floppy wedges in the way.  On the other hand, the original wedgeless version is quite easily OOTA'd.

There's nothing I can do about all those VS's though... if I run into a VS I'm dead.  Good thing there's not too many in my bracket.

[Badnik96]

Masher 2010: Decent enough... now why these heavy wheels and snowplow ?

Those were the only wheels that made it invertible. And the plow makes it a gutripper, which it was intended to be.

PLUS: I'M NOT ON THE BRACKETS!!! NOOOO! And where are the videos?

Please go back a page and read Joe's description... or he will kill you.

Sorry I posted before I read the post :P

[JoeBlo]

Please go back a page and read Joe's description... or he will kill you.

*loads shotgun*

ok who hasnt been back reading the questions in my thread (or for that matter the rules thread ?) :P

I think it will all become clearer once I start the second bracket but its easier to do 1 at a time and not confuse everyone 

[090901]

Who's 90901, I never heard of him?

[JoeBlo]

you cant be serious :P

I kept writing your name as 090901 but I didnt think it was correct :P sorry I will change the points standings.. cant do much for the splash sorry

[JoeBlo]

Battle 1 is now up on the website and post 1 

RR vs MikeNCR

Points Standings will be updated after the whole 1st round is done

Rankings will be updated after each battle

[Doomkiller]

nice first match to kick off the tournament :) Showing just how the arena works :)

Digging the music too

[JoeBlo]

thanks I uploaded some audio tests too see what youtube will allow :)

[russian roulette]

Damn I thought I had a chance this season, no worries.

[JoeBlo]

Im sick of quoting my post so I will quote JD :P

Please go back a page and read Joe's description... or he will kill you.

you are not out of CC3 yet... nobody will be out for a while :P

[Doomkiller]

I think it's time you cock that shotgun Joeblo

Or start using a double-barrel shotgun :D

[Naryar]

@Russian: You should have used a wedge, that design is just MUCH better with one.

@Match 1: Not much of a surprise...

ROUND 1 PREDICTIONS

Condor33 over Temi: Gut-ripper against fast and wedgeless rammer, the gut-ripper usually wins. But since C33 failed on weapon setup and is outweaponed, you never know

90901 over Jack: Jack isn't just powerful enough to beat that Mako clone and VS pwn in this arena. Both have same drive so it'll be a push-fest.

Click over TeamZog: TeamZog completely failed on his bot's weapon setup and isn't even a threat to Click's clamping VS. Also slower - might be pushed OOTA.

GK over LDL: Yawn-fest unless one of them uses FBS.py... but GK has the better weapon. Unless lloopp's bot can rip off the Perm 80s, it's done for.

Sage over SSG: SSG still failed on the weapon setup because axes have normals, and the bot would have been MUCH better with just 2 DSL bars 45kg hammers. Sage gets it because of better weapon, but if he gets inverted he's in trouble

Jonzu over TriTon: Triton's bot is just too fast for the arena. However, it'll probably be more that rammer defeating itself than Jozu's bot defeating it... If it drove carefully it could toss Jonzu OOTA easily but with the AI it won't.

DK over SM: Yet another SnS that fails at the weapon setup with only 34 kg of weapons on a MW not to talk about the low reach... DK has either the setup to toss it OOTA, either to gut-rip it to death.

STC over LLB: Easiest match ever. I'll laugh if Navi OOTA's itself by error though...

[G.K.]

Is it too late to change my AI to FBSPlus Joe?

[cephalopod]

Ah, a rematch from CC2 for me then, eh? Sounds good ;D Looking at how low the walls were there, I reckon I might be able to punt it OOTA.

[Naryar]

Is it too late to change my AI to FBSPlus Joe?

Now that is a good idea...

Oh and you make me think of something... Joe, i don't know exactly if it is worth it to augment my bot's radius value to avoid the walls better, and if i can do it ?

[JoeBlo]

Is it too late to change my AI to FBSPlus Joe?

no problem, SnS robots were only AI'd with what I think was the best option unless I was told otherwise. no AI changing part way through the tournament though sorry so make sure its what you want 

is it in NarAI or do you need to provide me a link ?

@Craaig... the robots all should navigate around the walls like a normal arena, the AI wont retreat if they are open as (as far as I know) the AI is unable to detect weather the wall is up or down

[cephalopod]

@Craaig... the robots all should navigate around the walls like a normal arena, the AI wont retreat if they are open as (as far as I know) the AI is unable to detect weather the wall is up or down

Yeah, I'm just saying that the low walls may give a slight advantage with the huge hammers on BMMB-C. But yeah, I see what you're on about.

[G.K.]

I'll just find the link Joe. Here we go https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/FBSPlus.rar

I think the bot should be wired like FBS.py (apanx's one) with the additional thing in the bindings specified in the .py. Nary can explain it better than me, as he wrote it.

Edit:I've sent the bot with the controls re-wired to suit the new py. Bindings and the py are included.

[JoeBlo]

thanks, your match maybe delayed though as LDL requested the AI that has robots move to the center of the arena before spinning

I think all others waiting on more tweaking/ new py's were luckily in heat 2

[G.K.]

Right.