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Robot Arena Matches => Tournaments => Tournament Archives => Topic started by: Clickbeetle on June 28, 2008, 11:16:18 PM
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Now that the 2.1 patch is finished, it's time for the event you've all been waiting for...
Bot Battle for Eminent AutoNomous Supremacy #4
Rules
First, make sure to read the BBEANS general rules, updated 6/28/08. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans)
BBEANS4-specific Rules
Weight Class: Middleweight
Components: DSL 2.1
Arena: BBEANS Tournament Arena
Special Rules: Realistic. Most of you are familiar with this. For those who aren't, all bots must be reasonably realistic, basically meaning that you can't have any intersecting components that couldn't intersect in real life. A blade going through an armor plate is fine, because you could cut a slot in the armor in real life. A blade going through a wheel isn't fine. For some good examples, look at the stock DSL AI and the entries for BBEANS2 (click here (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/entries2.jpg)). All these bots comply with the Realistic Rule.
Tournament Format: Double elimination. Best 2 out of 3 matches wins. 3 minute matches. 32 entry slots. If I get much more than 32 entries, though, I might boost the bracket to 64 slots like I did for BBEANS3.
Entering
Registration is now closed.
Changing Your Entry
This part is a little different from past BBEANS. If you want to change your entry to a totally different bot, you have until I AI your entry to do so. I will wait at least one week to AI bots, so you have at least that long to change it, possibly longer. If you made your own AI, then you still only get one week to change your entry.
If you only want to update your bot, then you can do that as many times as you like. As long as it is the same design and can use the same AI as the previous bot, you can update it.
Prizes
The Champion will receive the following weapon!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/24189sword1.jpg)
Yeah, it's a sword, and it looks cool, but what are you going to do with it? Use it in the next BBEANS, that's what! This prize, and others like it, are legal for use in BBEANS tournaments! They're fairly balanced, so you don't need to worry about having an unfair advantage. But who doesn't like shiny novelty components to show off their skill?
You can also use the bare sword blade, minus crossguard and pommel, if you wish. Sometimes the plain blade fits better than the whole sword.
Here are some of the other prizes up for grabs:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58641bbeansprize1.jpg)
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize2.jpg)
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize3.jpg)
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize4.jpg)
The Champion gets the Champion's Sword in addition to one other prize of their choice. The Runner-up, the Rumble winner, and each winner of each additional award gets one prize of their choice, excluding the Champion's Sword.
You can give the prize components to other people if you want, but only the people who win them are allowed to use them in BBEANS. So I can't use the prize components, even though I have all of them. Just to be fair.
I think that covers everything. Any questions, post them here.
Competitors registered ( 32 )
JoeCB1991
Sorrow
Dragonfire
ianh05
zipdragon64
R0B0SH4RK
infiniteinertia
Naryar
H@zm47
Somebody
Clickbeetle
Firebeetle
duh102
sage
Scrap Daddy
somestrangeguy
Gigafrost
TorrFac
Philetbabe
Meganerdbomb
Pyscolone
Barbie
mjrobots
Phlox
Botreactor
Urjak
Silver
Jules
andrewm0304
Sammy
man manu
Seastalker
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Well count me in CB.
It's real nice to have Tourney's going again....
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ill have to make a few bots then eh. i wanna win this, though i bet either you or inf will. he has really gotten the hang of dsl amazingly fast.
P.S. how did you get that mace so shiny? and did you use hexadecimal for the colors?
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Count me in. This is going to be one heck of a touney :D
EDIT: Are stacked batteries allowed?
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Rule edit: I decided that all entries must be submitted by PM. No e-mail. This is so I can check IP addresses and discourage cheating.
ill have to make a few bots then eh. i wanna win this, though i bet either you or inf will. he has really gotten the hang of dsl amazingly fast.
P.S. how did you get that mace so shiny? and did you use hexadecimal for the colors?
The mace pommel on the sword has what is called a reflection map. The same thing that's on shiny hub wheels. The blade also has it but it's harder to see.
To do it you need the special GMF compiler FB edited: http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/robotarena.htm
Then for the texture, where it says *MAP_DIFFUSE, change it to *MAP_REFLECT. Then where it says *MAP_TYPE Screen, change it to *MAP_TYPE Spherical or *MAP_TYPE Cylindrical. And that's all you need to do.
Colors are always in hexadecimal as far as I know. Unless you mean whether I used a .bmp skin or not, in which case the answer is yes.
Count me in. This is going to be one heck of a touney :D
EDIT: Are stacked batteries allowed?
Stacked batteries aren't allowed with the realistic rule. You can't cut slots in batteries, or motors for that matter. A little bit of overlap on the edges is fine though.
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I think I will make a bot or two but I never AIed a bot be fore And I'm not that good with computers
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I know i'll sound like an idiot, but how do you put an attachment on a PM?
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Hell Yes! :D
I've been waiting for this since I missed BBEANS 3.
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Hey, with a prize like that I may actually try this out!
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I'm in. Smitemare will reign supreme.
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I will give a try. Still need to try a god damn bunch of bots because IDK if that Neglected Waterbug replica is gonna work.
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my bot's ready and AIed.
still some testing before i send it though..
no stacking batts? thats never been mentioned in realistic rules before. what about weapons? like on an HS where there are 2 spikes in one?
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my bot's ready and AIed.
still some testing before i send it though..
no stacking batts? thats never been mentioned in realistic rules before. what about weapons? like on an HS where there are 2 spikes in one?
"welder's concept"
I would think that anything you can do with a welder IRL should be allowed in the tourney. Just a thought.
ex: you can weld two spikes together easily and mount them to a plate... you can't weld batteries or motors into each other.
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Another slight change to the entry rules: You can send me your entry by e-mail if you want, but you at least need to be registered on the forum so I can see your IP.
Stacking batteries wasn't allowed in BBEANS2 either. I mean, if you're allowed to stack batteries you might as well be allowed to stack motors too. It's nothing new, at least not for BBEANS.
Stacking spikes is OK I suppose. You shouldn't need to do it as much in DSL as in stock RA2 though.
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ah. ill have to rework the battery setup then. but thats good news about the spikes.
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I haven't done this before but it looks fun, I'll get started on something.
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I should bedone with my robot tomorrow but I don't know how to AI a bot so where do I go next.
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Hey, CB, as DSL 2.1 has issues being installed in my Mac, can i send you a DSL 2.0 bot? I will normally only use drive Magmotors and a Perm 80.
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Ugh. I'll just send one of my already made bots for the tourney.
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Wow, guys, what's with the big rush to get entered? All you guys are going to do is keep sending in remakes, or other bots. There is a reason registration is open for 2 (potentially 3) weeks, and that is so you can perfect your designs, so use the time you have, don't swamp CB in bots you aren't going to use.
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I know its open for 2 to 3 weeks but this was the only time I had to build the best bot I could.
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I should bedone with my robot tomorrow but I don't know how to AI a bot so where do I go next.
You don't need to AI your bot if you don't know how. I'll AI any entries that aren't already AI'd, so you can just send the bot.
Hey, CB, as DSL 2.1 has issues being installed in my Mac, can i send you a DSL 2.0 bot? I will normally only use drive Magmotors and a Perm 80.
DSL2 bots are completely legal. The tournament is run on 2.1, so all the components' stats are automatically updated.
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:cry:
Since i dont know DSL for now and i will not enter, i wish you all guys good luck and have fun on tournament...
Since i dont know stock for now and i will not... Wait a minute... I know stock... I defenatly will enter in next stock BBEANS... :evilsmile:
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Count me in as well... Time to redeem myself after that pitiful DarkBlade loss.
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my entry is all done and sent, just hoping for 1 win. no good at DSL.
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my entry is all done and sent, just hoping for 1 win. no good at DSL.
me too!
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I just need to rebuild my bot one or two times and i'll send it, Monday or Tuesday.
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Where do I send my bot when it is done. It will not win, but I might as well try.
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Upload it in the GTMs file uploader (must go to main page first) then send the link to Click.
Oh, and be sure to use titanium armor. It's the best.
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I'll be lucky if mine gets a win...
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I might enter!
(I'm back btw, and still an amateur)
hovers are okay right?
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I doubt they are.
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Death, read the first post above. You can also look here: BBEANS general rules. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans)
Hover engines are not OK.
Glad to see you enter though....
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OK finally... mine is ready.
Sending.
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Thanks Naryar, I am not competing to win, and my bot shows it. I just threw together a bot to use. My bot is pretty bad, but it is sent anyway.
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hey CB i sent mine last night and good luck to everybody
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oh ya, infiniteinertia has his bot built and is lovin it.
ill skin it somewhat and send it out tonight.
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Naryar: How long do I have to send it to Click, and, How do I send the link to him.
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Use the GTM file uploader (homepage) and upload it (use a .RAR file as needed). Then copy/paste the link given into a PM that you will send to Click.
(i missed two times, but its still that)
I think you have a little less than 2 weeks remaining.
Oh, and an advice: the best armors are 1,5 and 10mm Titanium and 3mm Plastic.
And DSA isn't a worthy choice in DSL. It is in fact the crappier armor possible.
Ah, and of course have a look to the DSL AI bots. This way you'll learn a lot.
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Thanks Naryar, I honestly don't expect to win, but I will keep trying with my bot, I will send it soon (now that i know that I have time to change it).
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registration ends in about 4 days. July 12th.
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I'm just putting the finishing touches on my bot, like the skin, the name, and AI testing. It should be in on the 12th.
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Mine's ready for submission :)
I just want to make it past the first round. Probably won't though :P
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Same with mine.
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Sent my entrant in.
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Okay guys, due to the decidedly underwhelming response (we're not even halfway to 32 yet), I'm extending registration another week to try and get a few more entries. That means you have until Sunday July 20th to get your entry in!
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the low turnout is just because we have less members then we used to.
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I guess I'll try it out, but I don't have much experience with DSL. Glad to see that your extending the date because I just read this. :)
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Did you try getting people from the other Forum in?
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I think the other forum is no longer acessible. Is there some other way we can find more entrants?
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I might enter but I have very little experience with DSL so I doubt it. Good luck to everyone participating (I hope you get more entrants, too).
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I've been able to get it working a few times, and there are a lot of people there.
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Is FB competing?
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i know one or two who are entering but havent yet.
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Resent my entry to your PM, Click. The download should work now.
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I've seen a couple of people say they may not enter due to DSL. Terrible excuse!
Just enter for the sake of it! It's BBEANS for god sakes!!!
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Im entering too, even if im not at all good at DSL
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At least there IS a Tournament of some kind going on, considering how small this community is now.
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I'm gonna enter! the only reason I haven't yet is because I'm having trouble building a bot that's tournament worthy, but I almost have one finished!
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me too. I can't build middle weights, they are too strong to be a lightweight and fast, they are too weak to be strong and slow. How do I build a good middle weight bot?
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Just build one and send it, you think that the person who built Spinner from the West was planning to win?
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The sad part is, probably.
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do two beetleweights equal one middle weight? and how do people build those bots with large parts and a small chassis?
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do two beetleweights equal one middle weight? and how do people build those bots with large parts and a small chassis?
good luck trying that with realistic rule!
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do two beetleweights equal one middle weight? and how do people build those bots with large parts and a small chassis?
small chassis and big parts = baseplate anchors and extenders.
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Spinnerfromthewest<3
great wiki on that bot...
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Hmm, I guess I'll give this a shot. No harm in entering, right?
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You might as well, it won't hurt anything.
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just locating my RA2 disk now. should be entering this. i'm hoping to get past the first round although i haven't built anything in over 6 months now.:(
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Well we're up to 18 entries now. I managed to badger Firebeetle into getting a bot together. Assuming that madiaba, dexterhunter, Meganerdbomb, Death, and man manu are all entering, that makes 23. Just one away from 24--come on guys, let's see if we can make it to 24, since that's a nice number for brackets.
Speaking of dexterhunter: you need to resend your bot; there was no attachment on the e-mail.
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i know pyscolone is entering...
when he sees this he BETTER send you his.
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hmm my bot building isn't going to well. i never was much good at dsl
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botreactor is in, he might have changed his name on this forum im not sure.
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wow, i applaud this games ability to hang on
thought it dead, but here it is, good and alive, phlox told me this morning about BBEANS4, might dust of the old CD and boot up, i still haven't recovered from the hard drive crash, lost everything! including my AI pack! (which if ACAMS or Goose reads this, i sent you a copy! do you still have it?)
Love ya all!
Expect an entry!
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OMG YOU!!! Stop hiding! The DSL Queen has returned!
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Kind of random but I am kind of hoping that there will be a Spinnerfromthewest 2 entering...
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I just saw this topic after about a year of not playing.
I'm entering.
You probably don't know me, but I placed second in BBEANS 2.
I'm in the process of building another crazy VS.
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If you don't know, Mako was made into an AI for DSL v2.1, along with Shebeast and Smashbox. Mako's huge :O
And, does Apple = Barbie? Or is Kill just making fun of someone..?
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I remember you Jules, and by the way, my entry can KO Mako, its in my showcase.
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I remember you Jules, and by the way, my entry can KO Mako, its in my showcase.
didnt you say it took you like 20 tries?
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No, only like, 3, but I have to drive around the front to get to the wheel (which is hard) or else it gets torn up by the hammers.
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which wouldn't happen if it was AI.
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SB, That IS the difference...
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Will there be a splash and predictions thread(s) like the other BBEANS?
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I see I'm not listed yet. Did you get my entry, Clickbeetle?
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Will there be a splash and predictions thread(s) like the other BBEANS?
Splash, of course. Predictions, yes, for whoever wants to make them.
I see I'm not listed yet. Did you get my entry, Clickbeetle?
I'm not on the forum every day (usually only about once a week, although with registration coming to a close I'm making an effort to check more often) and I also need to check entries for legality, so it could take a while before your name actually appears on the list. But, you're on the list now.
Good to see Jules back. FYI, it looks like your success in BBEANS2 has inspired many a builder. There are no less than three Mako look-alikes entered so far...
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So far I'm not having much success with a VS. I hate to say it, but I may have to build a different type.
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Do the stock BBEANS tournaments have the "realistic" rule too?
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no
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Im entering for the first time. YAY. dont expect much however.
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hmm i managed 2 make a little lightweight wedge/flipper that is half decent lol. maybe makin it into a mw some other time
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i'm just hoping that my bot will not get beaten too quickly...if it survives 30 seconds or more then i'll be happy...
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Thanks Apple.
Urjak, man manu: I have an urge to remind you that registration ends tomorrow.
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call me barbie, everyone else does.
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Okay barbie, I'm relatively new here.
Why isn't your forum name Barbie?
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It was at the old forums.
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Somebody, I know. I have already sent my robot to Clickbeetle.
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Good to see Jules back. FYI, it looks like your success in BBEANS2 has inspired many a builder. There are no less than three Mako look-alikes entered so far...[/QUOTE]
HEY! Smitemare 8 is TOTALLY original!
...Ah, who'm I kidding. Good to see you back, Jules.
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Are Luigica and eFFeeMMe entering?
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oh no! right time to get cracking!
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Yay <3 Barbie's back....
Hmm, 26 entrants (excluding late comers)? That's actually a pretty decent tourney. I feel like my bot is going to be the only one sporting tank treads however... I also hope that my bot lasts 30 secs+.
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Mine probably won't last longer than 30 seconds either.
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Okay, we're achingly close to 32 entries, there's still a smattering of people who said they wanted to enter but haven't yet, and I still have a lot of AI'ing to do, so I'm extending registration another two days. You have until Tuesday the 22nd to get your entry in. But I absolutely CANNOT extend registration any farther than that because I'm leaving on vacation this week! So after Tuesday, that's it, no more entries. Get your bots in quick!
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I will try to build one and embarrased to say I have built very few DSL bots. (I think I built like 3 DSL bots, not including the ones I helped build for the AI)
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Glenku might be entering also, same guy who built anti-christ from BBEANS 3.
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Thanks, CB. Been living at work. Sure helps some of us busy-bodies.
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Gigafrost, my bot has tank treads too. It is in my showcase (the stock one).
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sent my bot. just in time. can you actually believe that is the best i could come up with in 5 days lol. anyway i think the name explains all. FIRST ROUND FINALE lol
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I sent you a PM Clickbeetle, just checking if you got it and the link works.
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CB doesn't appear much, it was very likely he hasn't seen that you sent it yet. dont panic!
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As long as the date on the PM is before the end of registration, you ahould be fine.
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mines sent by e-mail. is that ok?
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He said it was.
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I just tested mine for the first time [I was just trying to build something quick, so I never tested it after I built it] and I am certain I will lose in the first round.
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Good news bad news time.
First, the good news. We actually got to 32 entries! A full bracket!
...The bad news, some of you just missed out. Most notably madiaba and eFFeeMMe. It would have been awesome to see both of you compete. But alas, just enough people got in ahead of you.
The last slot is still uncertain at this point. Death sent in an illegal entry on the 17th, but I allowed him to use it as a placeholder so he would have a week to update to something legal. He hasn't so far. If I don't get a legal bot from him by the 24th, then Seastalker (aka Harcsa) will get the last slot.
I'll be on vacation on Thursday, however, so we won't know who the last entry is until next Tuesday at the earliest.
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No prob. I just didn't have time to test and tweak something...
Glad there are enough to have a tourney. :-D
CB, I was wondering if you wanted a couple more cameras in this arena,.. or is it the way you want? Let me know, don't mind helping with AI-ing either. I'm a neutral party now.. hehe.
Good luck to all.
(I'll keep messing with a bot, just in case there's a need for another entry to keep things even and going.)
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what would be cool is if you could make a kind of ref bot that you (clickbeetle) can control while the other two are battling so you could have an F2 camera. i know the other bots would attack you but cant you make it in the AI code for the bots to ignore you or something? then also if the two fighting bots got tangled or something the ref bot could go and give them a nudge. just a thought.
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Thats the most idiotic thing I've seen you post man manu.
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If its so idiotic then why did Robot Wars have one.
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welllll sooory mr.isuggestcoolthingsallthetimethatarereallygoodbutineversuggestbadthings!
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man manu was just giving an idea. dont be so harsh.
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Personally, I like things the way they are now. This way you can't blame him for playing favorites (by driving into one bot and putting them at a disadvantage).
BTW to make the opponents ignore user controlled bots, all you have to do is change this line: "if not plus.isHuman(enemy): weighted_dist += 3" (from AI\__init__.py)
To something like this: "if not plus.isHuman(enemy): weighted_dist += -99"
You could also change make the value zero (if you want the AI to treat you fairly) or higher (if you want the AI to attack you more than other bots)
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what would be cool is if you could make a kind of ref bot that you (clickbeetle) can control while the other two are battling so you could have an F2 camera. i know the other bots would attack you but cant you make it in the AI code for the bots to ignore you or something? then also if the two fighting bots got tangled or something the ref bot could go and give them a nudge. just a thought.
Actually having a refbot would make the camerawork harder. With no human player, the Orbit camera is centered at the 0,0,0 point of the arena. This allows me to pan around the whole arena with an equal view on all sides. If you watch some old BBEANS match videos you can see how it works.
With a human-controlled refbot in there, the orbit camera's center would be offset and also moving around, and it would be harder to get a good angle on the action depending on where the bots were in relation to the refbot.
I can guess that the added source of human error would also be the source of a lot of complaints. For example, if the bots get stuck dancing in circles, and the refbot comes in to nudge them, which allows one bot to get under the other and win.
It IS an interesting idea, though. You could definitely tweak the AI's priority so they would ignore the refbot. But I don't think I want to try it right now. Perhaps in another tournament.
Oh yeah, and I lied. Today is the last day I can post before leaving. I thought I wouldn't be able to but I can now. Still no news from Death.
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i could do the splash if its any trouble
i like doing splashes.
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Thanks for the offer, but it would be almost as much work getting the bots to you as it would be making it myself (meaning it's not much work). Besides, I still don't know whether Death or Harcsa will be the final entry.
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Whats a splash?
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Splash pic of BBEANS 3 (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/entries3.jpg)
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OK. Good Luck to all!
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Here's the splash pic for BBEANS4. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/entries4.jpg)
There's actually a nice variety of designs here (if you ignore all the Mako lookalikes, that is). There's a couple of drums, a couple of piston rammers, a couple of hammers, and not an overwhelming number of horizontal spinners. There's even a three-wheeled rammer! It may be a VS-dominated bracket, but with all that other variety it promises to be an interesting tourney.
While it's still technically legal for you to update entries up to the point when the brackets are posted, I would very much appreciate it if no one made any changes to their bot so I won't have to make any changes to the picture.
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PREDICTION TIME!
Winner: Haymaker - Infiniteinertia
-Nothing's powerful enough to get close to this in a regular fight.
Second: Layziee - Pyscolone
-Too well built to lose to much. I can really only see it losing to 3 bots.
Darkhorse: Enfilad3 - R0B0SH4RK
-A well-built wedge and sufficient KO power should defeat most.
Others to look out for:
Ham-mer Sandwich 2 - sage : Wedgeless bots beware.
Go Barbie, Go! - Barbie : A mw Shebeast?
Red Tide VI - Firebeetle : Tough looking drum.
Thumper - JoeCB1991 : The only tribar HS :O
DoaMadman - Jules : It'll either be a MW Mako, or fail. Hard.
Well, that's 25% of the whole field there, so there's a good chance I could be right :P
And what does Botreactor's bot do? Is it a side hammer?
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My "Rookie" opinion :
Best design : #14 Rage III (so cute) and #22 Red Tide VI (compact, well armed and a genious up bracket)
Most Original : #5 System failure (warning : the prolonged contemplation of this bot may be brain damaged !)
Most feared :
1/#6 T-4 (because of the low barrier around the arena),
2 et 2 bis / #4 Haymaker and Thumber which both look very resistant and heavily
gunned.
3/ #22 Red Tide VI may be killer if it is quick to get near its foe and reach the core of it's ennemy, with a too slow drive motor it may be eject before biting.
By the way : Will it be possible, later, to create an archive of all this bots (and their own AI) and to deposit it in the download area ?
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Now that the 2.1 patch is finished, it's time for the event you've all been waiting for...
Bot Battle for Eminent AutoNomous Supremacy #4
Rules
First, make sure to read the BBEANS general rules, updated 6/28/08. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans)
BBEANS4-specific Rules
Weight Class: Middleweight
Components: DSL 2.1
Arena: BBEANS Tournament Arena
Special Rules: Realistic. Most of you are familiar with this. For those who aren't, all bots must be reasonably realistic, basically meaning that you can't have any intersecting components that couldn't intersect in real life. A blade going through an armor plate is fine, because you could cut a slot in the armor in real life. A blade going through a wheel isn't fine. For some good examples, look at the stock DSL AI and the entries for BBEANS2 (click here (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/entries2.jpg)). All these bots comply with the Realistic Rule.
Tournament Format: Double elimination. Best 2 out of 3 matches wins. 3 minute matches. 32 entry slots. If I get much more than 32 entries, though, I might boost the bracket to 64 slots like I did for BBEANS3.
Entering
Registration is now closed.
Changing Your Entry
This part is a little different from past BBEANS. If you want to change your entry to a totally different bot, you have until I AI your entry to do so. I will wait at least one week to AI bots, so you have at least that long to change it, possibly longer. If you made your own AI, then you still only get one week to change your entry.
If you only want to update your bot, then you can do that as many times as you like. As long as it is the same design and can use the same AI as the previous bot, you can update it.
Prizes
The Champion will receive the following weapon!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/24189sword1.jpg)
Yeah, it's a sword, and it looks cool, but what are you going to do with it? Use it in the next BBEANS, that's what! This prize, and others like it, are legal for use in BBEANS tournaments! They're fairly balanced, so you don't need to worry about having an unfair advantage. But who doesn't like shiny novelty components to show off their skill?
You can also use the bare sword blade, minus crossguard and pommel, if you wish. Sometimes the plain blade fits better than the whole sword.
Other prizes are TBA. I'm thinking there will be at least four more, all BBEANS-legal. I'm afraid the laser rifle still isn't legal, though. That counts as part of Firebeetle's Component Pack. Sorry.
The Champion gets the Champion's Sword in addition to one other prize of their choice. The Runner-up, the Rumble winner, and each winner of each additional award gets one prize of their choice, excluding the Champion's Sword.
You can give the prize components to other people if you want, but only the people who win them are allowed to use them in BBEANS. So I can't use the prize components, even though I have all of them. Just to be fair.
I think that covers everything. Any questions, post them here.
Competitors registered ( 32 )[/u]
JoeCB1991
Sorrow
Dragonfire
ianh05
zipdragon64
R0B0SH4RK
infiniteinertia
Naryar
H@zm47
Somebody
Clickbeetle
Firebeetle
duh102
sage
Scrap Daddy
somestrangeguy
Gigafrost
TorrFac
Philetbabe
Meganerdbomb
Pyscolone
Barbie
mjrobots
Phlox
Botreactor
Urjak
Silver
Jules
andrewm0304
Sammy
man manu
Seastalker
i sent clickbeetle an email with my entry so why am i not here?
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I'm kinda suprised Sorrow could only come up with a Mako-clone after 8 versions of smitemare.
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there are a few bots that could potentially end up giving me trouble. ones with decent armor (silver plows) and the reallyreally wedged VSs of sorrow and jules. Urjak's and Robo's fast wedges will also give me trouble.
there are also a few bots that i just dont see beating me. but you never know. Im not optimistic till i get a result or too.
I really dont have any predictions, but I'd watch out for Urjak's Sweeper-thing and Enfilad3.
My prediction to win is Sage's Hammer Sandwich.
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i think im gonna do a all bot prediction for fun. in order :
Bras Ouvert- decent weapons, but big wheels will be a problem. should do well against shell HS, but VS will destroy it. looks a little slow for a rammer.
ByeyE- wedged rammer. its ok. popups will be its downfall.
DoaMadman- hey its mako MW. as with all large weapon vs's, if a hammer gets knocked off its over. should chuck most bots pretty well though, hopefully over the side.
Enfilad3- its a popup. popups OWN in dsl. i can see it losing against larger hs's, because they will just knock it away.
FRF- weak and ill-armored popup. its gonna lose its weapons easily. but against rammers it should be good.
go barbie go- losta weapons, invertible, wedgy. not bad. should do well.
Gohem- another vs with hammers. might do well. looks like it would be wobbly.
hammer sandwich 2- it works well if it gets under something. the srimech works, but sometimes takes a while. flippers are its weakness. does well against shell spinners and things without wedges.
Haymaker- amazing damage, tiny chassis, wont get wobbly if a hammer gets knocked off, or a wheel. the arena will be its downfall, cause of its smaller area becuase of the box in the middle. fast bots will be its main weakness.
hazardous contraption- my bots downfall. looks well armored. might be a darkhorse.
hostility II- weapon reach is short, which might be a problem. the weapon is actually pretty weak damage wise. but the front is well armored, so who knows.
interventionism 2.0- nice idea. bar spinner. looks like the weapons will fall off pretty easily.
iron spaghetti- i love how the name fits the bot so well. not much else to say. slapping weapons are good, but the axles are weak.
layziee- its pysc. compact, wedge, good weapon... only thing is the wapon motor could be knocked off.
mace2- looks... ok. could be good.... who knows.
no leaf clover- what the heck? why is the wedge so weird. another vs. same weaknesses as the others. will do just as well as the others too.
no name #12- looks like a decent rammer. popups will defeat it, cause there is no wedge.
NOS-BOT- its odd. i havnt known spike clubs to do much damage on a FS. we'll have to see.
pysco sweeper- looks good. nice armor, looks speedy, decent weapons, if a little less than most. most danger it has is being declawed.
rage III- 3 wheels. cool. weapons are a tad far apart.
red red green- looks cool. weapon looks a little weak, and not much armor.
red tide VI- gonna be a hard bot to beat. awesome weapon, nice wedge...
Ripterra- small weapon on a big bot. i can see those thingys coming off pretty quick.
slasher- cant see really what it does. possibly a flipper.
smitemare 8- HEY! look at that. another vs. this one looks a bit better than average, but still just a VS.
smoker- that extender is gonna be knocked off so easily its not even funny (ok, it is)
system failure- really cool looking bot. that hammer is gonna do some massive damage.
t4- flippers are gonna be really good in this BBEANS, cause the walls are soooo low.
thumper- i like it. a rammer could do well against it, but i can see this thing taking down a lot of VS.
thunderstruck- well... weak weps, but looks like it can spin pretty fast. who knows.
TITAN- fast weapon, but pretty weak other than that.
undercutter- i like this one. the drum could be knocked off easily.
PREDICTIONS:
winners- haymaker, enfilad3, layziee, or red tide.
2nd- hammer sandwich, system failure
darkhorse- t4, go barbie go.
phew....
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I wonder where all those people got there VS spinner Ideas lol.
I hope I don't end up losing to one of them, that would be embarassing.
I could picture it happening, Smitemare 8 looks very good.
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i can tell you that slasher is a VS.
heres a better look at my entry...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/39406thunderstruck.JPG)
and now my predictions.
Bras Ouvert- if the weapons dont move, i dont think it will deal enough dmg to worry the other bots.
ByeyE- nice idea, however i think most spinners wont have a problem here.
DoaMadman- possible winner, very nice design and if its as good as mako look out!
Enfilad3- trouble here for my entry and im sure most others, killer wedge.
FRF- pop-up? if it is a pop-up it could cause some trouble for the wedgeless bots.
go barbie go- its barbie the dsl queen! what more needs to be said?
Gohem- the only VS that uses a tribar, that could be trouble for others, i see it backfiring somehow.
hammer sandwich 2- the first of 2 hammer bots, the extenders may come of a bit too easy.
Haymaker- the arena will be its main downfall, if it stops spinning the chassis is opened to attacks.
hazardous contraption- pretty neat design, reminds me of neglected waterbug.. might upset a few of the favs if it works that well.
hostility II- not enough weapons in my opinion and a wedges dream.
interventionism 2.0- heres another nice design, the wedge is very well designed and provides good protection, i just cant see the weapon doing that much dmg.
iron spaghetti- a solid FBS, wedges should eat it up though.
layziee- well built, should go places.
mace2- neat idea, im pretty sure any bot with a better wedge will beat it though.
no leaf clover- it'll do ok just like the other VS's.
no name #12- anything with a wedge should beat it, if its fast enough it might cause an upset.
NOS-BOT- wedges, face spinner and some wheel protection. might do better then most think.
pysco sweeper- reminds me a lot of the devil bot in dsl, might cause some trouble.
rage III- seastalker is a rammer specialist! it looks a little weak and looks like it would have trouble with a lot of entries but his results say he should go deep in this tourney.
red red green- looks so tiny and compact!, phlox built it so it might be a lil pain in the you know what ;)
red tide VI- made by firebeetle and looks very well designed its in my top 4.
Ripterra- looks pretty weak, nice tank tracks though!
slasher- a neat VS different to most others i've seen. can cause an upset apart from that i dont see much from it, should get a win or 2.
smitemare 8- looks like a strong VS, should rack up some wins.
smoker- looks easy to get under and rip up from under it.
system failure- this bot will eat mine up if it stops mine spinning and hammers away. will cause a lot of headaches.
t4- flipper + low wall = death.. nuff said.
thumper- looks pretty tough however the chassis is pretty exposed and in such a small arena it WILL stop spinning or at least slow down enough to get a good hit on the chassis at some point during the match.
thunderstruck- hopefully my entry will do better then my last bbeans entry, couple of things in its favour.
1. No ACAMS this time round!
2. No Glenku either.
3. currently undefeated by all entered builders in BBEANS lol!
for the 2nd BBEANS in a row my entry has the most number of weapons, this time they go round and round at a nice pace :)
TITAN- well its unique, i just dont see it going that far at all.
undercutter- maybe if the teeth point up a bit i would give it a good chance, the motors are pretty exposed and the weapons wont have enough time to do damagae as the bots could just go straight over the top.. i dont think it will do too good.
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I will not give predictions but...
Whats a "DARKHORSE" bot?
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I will not give predictions but...
Whats a "DARKHORSE" bot?
I was wondering about that too....
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A "darkhorse" is a bot/team/athlete/other competitor of somekind that is not the absolute favourite or consensus best in what it is competing in, but still has a shot at winning.
Basically, if the favourites don't win, the darkhorse probably will.
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So its like "second favorite" ?
Anyway...
I wish good luck to all candidates.
Let the best and most deserve it bot win...
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an underdog.
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We will see who will be the "underdog" in EVERY stock tournament that exist...
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what the unicorn did you just say?
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Explain more what you want to say with this post : "pyscolone : an underdog."
Then i will explain mine...
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He was explaining what a dark horse was....
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When i surch for word "underdog" in my dictionary it says :
Underdog :
1. Already losed competitor.
2. Repressioned/chased/exploitationed person.
WTF?
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I never said it was a good description.
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(http://myfolderz.com/Images/junk/underdog.jpg)
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Now ACAMS knows what he is talking about!
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acams: winnar
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(http://www.madiaba.gametechmods.com/PICS/underdog.jpg)
An Underdog with victory in his hands...
Couldn't even begin to pick a winner (esp in this small, obstacled arena). But I would guess either a VS, HS, or FBS. But FS look mean too.....
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I don't think mine will do as well as some people are predicting, but if it can get up to speed and not flip over it might do well. But it is just something that I built in 5 minutes, so I don't really know.
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no mine is not a popup lol. i am really really bad at DSL but i wanted to enter because i have never entered a BBEANS tournament before
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@ JoeCB
To win a BBEANS needs also a little bit of luck. So if you don't meet the abslute worst case scenario in the first maches, you can go quite far with your bot.
@ man manu
Yes you are bad in DSL and your bot will probably not go farther than the first round. But take it easy, at least you joined. Sadly I didn't. I was to busy and I suck at DSL too. :biggrin:
Very hard to say which bot will win this time. My tip is watch for the tiny bots, with apparently unoffensive appearances. Very interesting are the entries of Infinite and Scrap Daddy. Both are well known for their well elaborated and complicated machines. And now they come up with these seemingly simple FBS. It's because they know the secrets of a decent MW bot: a tiny chassis, less motors and all the weight left goes to the weapons. If you take a closer look many entries use a small chassis. Therefor I think the two bots with track have no chance to win. To much weight was waisted for the drive. (sorry Somebody and Gigafrost)
Personally I would like to see one of these members as the winner:
Clickbeetle, Phlox, Barbie, Pyscolone, Seastalker, Meganerdbomb and Firebeetle. For all of them it's the forth time to join, but they did never win.
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My Predictions Edited:
Bras Ouvert- Well rounded placement of weaponry but big wheels could hinder it's performance.
ByeyE- Interesting design and looks f a s t, but may fall prey to wedged opponents.
DoaMadman- A mako clone perhaps? Same attributes as mako... strong attack power, but may have slow spin up time and is non-self rightable.
Enfilad3- The standard popup. I can't get out of my mind the bot Red Red Red! when i see it. I expect it to win a couple of matches, unless theres a blow or two to the unprotected sides.
FRF- Badly armoured and may lose quickly if put against a VS. I even think T I T A N could beat it. Nevertheless it has a good amount of clearance.
go barbie go- Double drill invertable bot. Just as lovely as the Barbie herself <3
Gohem- Another 'mako'. Looks strong but may topple.
hammer sandwich 2- One of my faves, looks unique and is very effective. May lose its momentum if flipped however.
Haymaker- Artistingly crafted and one of my faves. This bot is nicely well-rounded, but may fall prey to rammers...
hazardous contraption- A possible darkhorse, good weponry but may be weak against VS though.
hostility II- A grinding bot? Weapons look too small to me, but its just my opinion.
interventionism 2.0- Sleek, well clearanced, but there could have been a better choice than iron spikes.
iron spaghetti- Cute FBS and looks effective. May snap its own srimech though.
layziee- The bot deals a good array of potential in this BBEANS, but the weapon motor being exposed may hinder its performance.
mace2- There really isn't any armor on this bot. Good choice of weapons but may lose to a FBS like iron spaghetti
no leaf clover- Strange wedge. Another mako clone
no name #12- I actually like the design. But it could easily be flipped.
NOS-BOT- The only bot that uses spiked clubes apart from my bot. But on a face spinner? I doubt it will do much damage...
pysco sweeper- Bear claws do good damage. It also looks like it could get under bots well. I await to see how well it really does.
rage III- One of my faves, effective rammer, but back wheel looks 'pop-offable'.
red red green- Sleek, but very gentle looking. May fall prey to powerhouses like Gohem.
red tide VI- Well built and effective... Is there more to say?
Ripterra- T I T A N's brother. Making the Tank Tread Brothers (TTB)! Weapons look weak though and may go only as far as T I T A N. Which may not be very far...
slasher- Interesting... Looks effective.
smitemare 8- Another mako clone. With all the same attributes...
smoker- Very outstretched in terms of weaponry. It also looks like it will have the 'Jaws effect' (fishtailing).
system failure- My favorite bot. Probably the best hammer bot I've seen in the MW class. But being that it is the only one in this tourny, the matches will indeed be very interesting. This bot ftw.
t4- I expect this bot to be the one that is always flipping others into the blade. Let's see if I'm right.
thumper- A HS with good weaponry. Needless to say that it might have trouble with armored and wedged opponents.
thunderstruck- Spikes look weak, but its just my opinion. Very well armoured and looks powerful.
TITAN- Ripterra's brother, making the Tank Tread Brothers (TTB)! Weapons look weak though and may go only as far as Ripterra. Which may not be very far...
undercutter- Drums could use some sort of protection. But may go far in BBEANS, you never know.
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o.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the last half of that is my post!
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Where are the bots you are talking about?
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o.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the last half of that is my post!
yeah like the one about my bot, Psyco Sweeper
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Where are the bots you are talking about?
page 13, second to last post.
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Thanks. I noticed half of those bots even I could beat, And my bots are crap!
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The Tank Tread Brothers will reign! Or not... I will be surprised if they win at least one match.
@ Sage: Lol Sorry sage! I was logged out while I was typing. Editted.
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When the next one rolls around, I'll make sure I build something good.
And CB, can you upload some of the best robots from all of the BBEANS tournaments to this page?
https://gametechmods.com/?do=RA2_Bots
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Well Haymaker preys on VS's and FBS's especially, and any bot with any side exposure.
Hammers are really all that gives me trouble and theres only 2 in the tournament...One which i fought and beat 5/5 times.
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I have a Heavy Weight Hammer bot that works quite well, except for when the Beta Motor starts seizure-ing.
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Hammers are really all that gives me trouble and theres only 2 in the tournament...One which i fought and beat 5/5 times.
I heard that he almost killed you though xD
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It makes me feel good to know that there are still hammer bot builders around. I was beginning to think that the weapon class was going extinct.
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It makes me feel good to know that there are still hammer bot builders around. I was beginning to think that the weapon class was going extinct.
eventually they might :(
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nahh. i like hammer bots.
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well as long as one player still likes em, they will never die out :)
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Sorry, Clickbeetle, but I had to change my entry, and it took me awhile to perfect it.
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Woah, are we still allowed to change them? I may have a chance...
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That's... kinda unfair if you're allowed to change it now, because you've seen all of the entries and know what to expect. Personally, I think that no one should be allowed to change their entry at this point.
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I agree.
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CB's running this Tourney. But I agree...Once you've seen all of the other entries, it's not really fair to be able to tweak or mod afterward.
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if the change is radical then i agree, but if things are minor, like i've been fidding with my wedge layout for instance, I don't think that would be a problem (although i've come up with nothing, its still pretty uneffective) but if i had added a wedge to a wedgeless bot, per se, I would agree that this kind of change should be dissalowed
back to the competitors though, wow, impressive selection, i don't think there is one robot i can look at and say "that has no chance of winning anything" im especially impressed with the rookies, good show!
my picks are robosharks bot, Hazardous Contraption (reminds me of Vains MW from the first BBEANS (which is based on the starcore bot, i forgot its name (waterbeetle or something))) and red tide looks pretty good, the axe bot looks good, but i fear the plastic extenders will be its undoing, psycolone's bot looks good too, but I question the effectivness of the weaponry, but then again its longivity should be pretty awesome. Naturally though i think silver will be one to look out for again, we saw many a bot flying away in BBEANS2, and the design looks like it has the same effect.
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if the change is radical then i agree, but if things are minor, like i've been fidding with my wedge layout for instance, I don't think that would be a problem (although i've come up with nothing, its still pretty uneffective) but if i had added a wedge to a wedgeless bot, per se, I would agree that this kind of change should be dissalowed quote]
That's true, Barbie. I just don't know how one would define and monitor 'minor' changes. Once someone knew the competition, 1 change in the tactics.py could adapt it to compete much better....
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i just cant wait for the first round vids. ohlala.
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oh yes!
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i just cant wait for the first round vids. ohlala.
I know, I just cant stand the tention.
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Hey CB, just a quick question. How do you normally organize the brackets? Do you just "pick names out of a hat" or do you choose who fights who?
I always wondered how you did it.
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i think it should have something to do with rankings. you dont want the 2 top ranked entries fighting it out in round 1.
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I'd Ennie Meanie Miney Moe it.
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out of the hat.
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TTB Rules! :approve: You are all underestimating Ripterra. I think that you are all forgetting that the treads provide side protection that far surpasses anything that any wheel could take. Ripterra will not go far, but it will do better than everyone thinks.
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I think Ripterra will make Quarter finals.
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Thats what would make me happy, as long as it is not matched up with a mini-Mako
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Agreed. The main reason why I chose treads was because of it's durability. Undoubtably oblivious to it's weak amount of weaponry...
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I changed mine after the splash was posted, but before I saw it. I hope Clickbeetle accepts it because it's much better than the version in the splash.
It's still a VS, but it's not a Mako clone.
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I changed mine after the splash was posted, but before I saw it. I hope Clickbeetle accepts it because it's much better than the version in the splash.
It's still a VS, but it's not a Mako clone.
Lol nu uh, I saw you take a peek at the splash. *Looks over your shoulder*
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Predictions time!!!
BrasOuvert: Pretty slow for a rammer. Just might be Iron Spaghetti's downfall.
Strengh: Sheck Spinners (Iron Spaghetti)
Weakness: Armored Hammers (System Flailure), fast rammers (No Name #12)
ByeyE: Lack of an active weapon may be this bots downfall, could get eaten by HS's
Strengh: Unwedged rammers (No Name #12)
Weakness: Horizontal spinners (Thumper, Ripterra), Hammers (System Flailure)
Diarrhea of a Madman: How original, this mini-mako by the Mako builder himself may go far.
Strength: Unwedged bots (Hostility II, Smoker)
Weakness: Quick rammers (Rage III) Cage Spinners (Thumper)
Enfilad3: A quick popup, if the sides stay safe, it should do well. AI may work to make an advantage
Strength: Bots with no wedge (Mace 2), Sheck Spinners (Iron Spaghetti)
Weakness: Horizontal Spinners (Ripterra, Interventionism 2.0)
FIRST ROUND FINALE!: Not very good, the name is its future.
Strength: Not really any, might be able to keep the Makos' away if the spikes catch part of wedge.
Weakness: Pretty much every single other robot.
Go Barbie, Go: A Mini-Shebeast, with unprotected sides and top.
Strength: Bots with unarmored fronts (Ripterra, BrasOuvert)
Weakness: Quick rammers (Rage III), Vertical Spinners (Gohem, No Leaf Clover) Armored Hammers (System Flailure, Ham-mer Sandwich 2)
Gohem: Another Mako, with weak extenders all around.
Strength: Uninvertible bots (Psycho Sweeper), Unprotected bots (Mace 2)
Weakness: Quick Rammers (No Name #12, Rage III)
Ham-mer Sandwich 2: Good armored front, but will have trouble if the plow comes off with the weak extenders.
Strength: Bots with open tops (Slasher, NOS-BOT), Horizontal Spinners (Ripterra, Hostility II)
Weakness: Armored top bots (Hazardous Contraption, Layziee), Vertical Spinners (Smitemare 8, No Leaf Clover, Gohem, Diarrhea of a Madman)
Haymaker: A great, invertible sit-and-spinner that delivers some massive hits.
Small arena may be its downfall.
Strength: Bots with exposed sides (Red, Red, Green?, Enfilad3, Hazardous Contraption)
Weakness: Fast Rammers (Rage III, No Name #12)
Hazardous Contraption: Should be good against bots with alot of ground clearance, could be the one to defeat Haymaker
Strength: Bots with big ground clearance (BrasOuvert, No Name #12) Hammers (Ham-mer Sandwich 2, System Flailure)
Weakness: Horizontal Spinners (Ripterra, Undercutter) Sit and Spinners (Haymaker, Ironic isn't it:oops:)
Hostility II: A horizontal spinner with little reach, weapons of choice seem a little weak
Strength: Bots with relatively unprotected fronts and sides(ByeyE, Red, Red, Green?)
Weakness: Hammers (System Flailure, Ham-mer Sandwich 2) Horizontal Spinners (Iron Spaghetti, Interventionism 2.0) Sit-and-Spinner (Haymaker)
Interventionism 2.0: Looks like a solid Horizontal Spinner.
Strengths: Hammers (Ham-mer Sandwich 2)
Weakness: Bots with low ground clearance (Enfilad3, Pscho Sweeper) Vertical Spinners (Diarrhea of a Madman, Gohem
Iron Spaghetti: A good Sheck Spinner, will have trouble with low ground clearance bots
Strengths: Bots with exposed sides (Enfilad3, Go Barbie, Go, Diarrhea of a Madman)
Weaknesses: Wide, Durable bots (BrasOuvert)
Layziee: A possible dark horse, good against many types of bots
Strength: Uninvertable bots (ThunderStruck!) Exposed front bots (Smoker, Enfilad3, Systam Flailure)
Mace 2: A sub-par face-spinner, but has nothing if discs come off
Strength: Not very well weaponed bots (Psycho Sweeper)
Weakness: All bots with a moving weapon, along with BrasOuvert
No Leaf Clover: A vertical spinner with an odd wedge
Strength: Unwedged bots (No Name #12), Tall bots (T I T A N)
Weakness: Low bots (Interventionism 2.0, Rage III)
No Name #12: A rammer that would be much better off with a wedge
Strength: Bots with exposed, vital components (T I T A N, Undercutter)
Weakness: Any bot with a wedge, especially popups (Enfilad3)
NOS-BOT: A well-protected face-spinner, though I am not sure that the Spiked clubs were the right choice
Strengths: High ground clearance bots: (Ripterra, No Name #12)
Psycho Sweeper:A Devil II like rammer, but an active weapon would have helped
Strength: High up bots (No Name #12) Face Spinners(NOS-BOT) Hammers(Ham-mer Sandwich 2)
Weakness: Almost any bot with active weapon weapon
Rage III: A quick, solid rammer
Strength: Bots with exposed, vital extenders (Smoker, Gohem)
Weakness: Hammers (System Flailure, Ham-mer Sandwich 2)
Red, Red, Green?: A relatively inadequate vertical spinner.
Strength: Bots that can get on top of the blade to get their underside's pounded.
Weakness: Any low bot, especially horizontal spinners.
Red Tide VI: A great bot from a great builder. One of the Dark Horses of the tourney.
Strength: A very good all around bot, especially to bots with open wheels or areas (Red, Red, Green?, Slasher)
Weakness: Fast, Low bots (Enfilad3)
Ripterra: THE BEST BOT IN THE TOURNEY!!!!! Just kidding. I thought it was adequate until I saw the other bots. Very quick spinup on the disks, and strong side protection. It tears up if it gets under skirts. It also can take repeated hits from sit and spinners, because of the 60000 or so hitpoint treads. The Tank Tread Brothers have the best chance against Haymaker.
Strength:Bots with skirts (Diharrhea of a Madman) Sit and spinners (Haymaker)
Weakness: Hammers (System Flailure, Ham-mer Sandwich 2) Bots with low wedges (Hazardous Contraption, Interventionism 2.0)
Slasher: A relatively sturdy drum bot, if lacking in weapon teeth. Good front protection.
Strength: Bots with no wedge (Ripterra, No Name #12)
Weakness: Armored Hammer bot (System Flailure)
Smitemare 8: Look:shock: its Mako!!! AGAIN:shock::shock: A good solid Vertical spinner, one of the better of the Makos
Strength: Bots with exposed parts (Smoker, BrasOuvert)
Weakness: Anything that can hit the side (Rage III).
Smoker: This wheel cutter could do good things if it is lucky, but I think that those extenders are too exposed to make big luck happen against hammers. M
Strength: Bots with open wheels (BrasOuvert, ByeyE)
Weakness: Hammers (System Flailure, Ham-mer Sandwich 2) Treaded bots (Ripterra, T I T A N)
System Flailure: One of the most interesting and original bots in the tourney, the only thing to worry about here is its lack of armor.
Strength: Unprotected bot tops (Ripterra, Undercutter, NOS-BOT)
Weakness: Bots with their weapons on top (Layziee, Interventionism 2.0, Hazardous Contraption)
T-4: This is probably the most feared bot in the tourney, as the arena is so easy to be flipped out if. Hopefully it doesn't self-right itself out of the arena though.
Strength: Any bot it can get under
Weakness: Vertican Spinners (Gohem, No Leaf Clover, Diarrhea of a Madman, Smitemare 8)
Thumper: A powerful cage spinner, with a weapon that shoud destroy most other bots.
Strength: Open bot sides (NOS-BOT, Mace 2, Enfilad3)
Weakness: Heavily guarded vertical spinners (Diarrhea of a Madman, Smitemare 8.
ThunderStruck!: Another dark horse in the tourney, if the disk isn't attacked by a hammer bot, it will go a long ways in the tourney.
Strength: High up bots (Ripterra, No Name #12) Horizontal Spinners (Undercutter, Ripterra)
T I T A N: The second of the Tank Tread Brothers, and the bigger of the two. This bot's weapons may be its downfall.
Strength: Exposed parts, (Smoker, Undercutter) Hammers (System Flailure, Ham-mer Sandwich 2
Weakness: Low bots (Rage III, ByeyE, Interventionism 2.0)
Undercutter: The name says it all about the weapons. This bot looks like an excellent wheel cutter.
Strength: Exposed Wheels (Mace 2, Smitemare 8)
Weakness: Treads (T I T A N, Ripterra)
I will choose three bots that I think one of them will win for each award.
1st place: Enfilad3, T-4, Haymaker
Coolest Bot: System Flailure, Haymaker, Red Tide VI
BTRSHDBBDDTBL: Haymaker, System Flailure, Rage III
Most Feared Opponent: Diarrhea of a Madman, T-4, ThunderStruck!
Best Rookie: Enfilad3, Hazardous Contraption, Thumper
I did not put FIRST ROUND FINALE on any strengths because all can beat it, and I did not put T-4 on any weaknesses because the arena makes it good against all.
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It is thundering where I am too! O.o
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hehe nice. i especially like my bots prediction (first round finale) although.... I HAVE A SECRET WEAPON!!!! MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I WILL WIN THIS TOURNAMENT!!!!
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yea... no.
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I would like to know what that secret weapon is. :ermm::ermm::ermm::ermm:
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Total n00bness. Look at Spinner from the West. That thing pwned.
Just for the record: Ham-mer Sandwich 2's plastic extenders won't be a problem. I've fought it online, and I never even touched them.
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Addressing some questions...
i sent clickbeetle an email with my entry so why am i not here?
Because I didn't get any e-mail from you. When you submit an entry, make sure you get a confirmation message from me.
Hey CB, just a quick question. How do you normally organize the brackets? Do you just "pick names out of a hat" or do you choose who fights who?
First I write the names of all the ranked competitors on slips of paper and draw them out of a hat, and fill them in as far apart on the bracket as possible. Then I draw the rookies out of the hat and fill in the rest of the bracket top to bottom.
And a clarification on the entry update rules: You're allowed to update your entry, not totally change it. Naturally the line gets a little blurry here, but if your bot has the same weapon and can use the same AI, then it should be fine. I'm trying something new here, so if there's a big fuss over it I can change it for the next tournament.
That said, here's a slightly updated splash image. (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/entries4.jpg) Meganerdbomb and Silver are the only ones who updated. And I will agree that Meganerdbomb's update was necessary--the original No Leaf Clover's skirts were glitchy to the point of being crippling. Silver's update was very minor: exchanging an iron spike flipper for a long skirt.
My current AI progress is 24 out of 32 bots. So almost done!
I don't have time to write general predictions for every bot, but I will say my top 5 picks for possible winners (in no particular order):
Hazardous Contraption - There's no shortage of Neglected Waterbug clones, but few of them are actually as good as the original. Hazardous Contraption is one of them. Don't underestimate this rookie competitor.
Enfilad3 - Fast, hard to get under, and very powerful. This bot has everything working in its favor except armor. I'm just glad it's the only popup to worry about.
Diarrhea of a Madman - There's a lot of vertical spinners, and they're all good. If one of them is going to win, though, I think the original builder of Mako has the best chance.
Ham-mer Sandwich 2 - Few bots can survive those hammers long enough to get off Ham-mer Sandwich's wedges. Even vertical spinners should be wary, since most of them have exposed weapon motors.
Iron Spaghetti - This bot is either going to own or be owned depending on who it faces. I think the number of bots it can own, however, outnumber the number of bots that own it.
Edit: Forgot to mention... thanks to madiaba, for BBEANS4, when a bot gets really damaged it will occasionally start on fire! It's a purely visual effect, but a purely cool one too.
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Thats so cool that there will be fire.
Robosh4rk: You never know, it could be flipped into the blade by T-4
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No Leaf Clover uses razor strips now??? Or did it always use that...
Ok, thanks click. I would change mine, but I don't want to make the same accident I did with Darkblade 1.0's update (took off armor). T I T A N is actually designed to take on FBSs like Iron Spaghetti and Haymaker. He also is much faster than he looks, using Fast Tank motors I think... It would definitely be an interesting tourny.
@ Somebody: Yeah I had the same thought with my entry. Now that I see the others I regret it...
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Psycho Sweeper:A Devil II like rammer, but an active weapon would have helped
Strength: High up bots (No Name #12) Face Spinners(NOS-BOT) Hammers(Ham-mer Sandwich 2)
Weakness: Almost any bot with weapon
That really boosts my morale. :P
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I might have a small chance at getting past the first round, but it will be fun to enter my first BBEANS anyways. Can't wait for it to start, the fire thing sounds cool.
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When is it actually starting?
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No Leaf Clover uses razor strips now??? Or did it always use that...
Nope! that's the upgraded version! I actually have a chance now, but I still don't think I'm gonna win. I like Go Barbie, Go!, lol. It reminds me of my Chick bots.
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What was on the disk before.
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What was on the disk before.
wasnt a disc. it was a bar or extenders with 2 hammers, like most other VS.
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I thought it had clubs.
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Is it too late to submit mine?
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Yeah... I think that after a splash is put up that nobody else can enter.
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Yes Death, it is. He said that you had until the 24th to submit your bot. Because you didn't, Seastalker and his bot, Rage III, are now in the tourney.
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i can't wait for the brackets to be up, hopefully i dont draw the eventual winner and favourite first up :roll:
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Clickbeetle's hat determines our fate...
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i wonder if clickbeetle uses the Hat program that i use. worst draw for me would be robosharks entry first.
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For me it would be T-4 or Haymaker, because they are the two favorites.
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My vote is with Hostility 2.
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I am not a very good MW builder. i probably should have checked what the arena was like before i entered, this shall be embarrassing. Hazardous Contraption or T4 to win, the former fistly because of the name, and secondly because neglected waterbug is awesome. Observation: wasn't silvers last bot T2?
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somebody.. i think you look at rankings and factor it in too much :wink: the fact is a ranked builder/bot has never won BBEANS!
BBEANS 1 - all rookies.
BBEANS 2 - MNCR - smashbox 2 was a rookie.
BBEANS 3 - ACAMS - childsplay IV was a rookie.
so i'm gonna stay with the pattern and say roboshark will win. but hopefully its my bot who wins! :ermm:
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I have almost no chance at winning this so I'm going to back roboshark's entry to win because it looks like it will get under most bots in this competition. Haymaker will get coolest bot without a doubt.
Good luck to everybody else competing!:)
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Haymaker will get most feared bot no doubt, and ian, i didn't look at the rankings, those were just the bots that I though were best.
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The brackets are up, and first round fights are set!
Click here, if you dare... (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/matches/4)
That also means that no one can update their bot anymore.
I have all the bots mostly AI'd (they all have satisfactory bindings, but some might still need a bit of tweaking), so the tournament should officially begin shortly.
I find it amusing how both pairs of bots whose names start with "No" and "Go" ended up fighting each other. That was a total coincidence, I swear! The top 16 ranked bots and the rookies' names weren't even drawn out of the same hat.
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woohoo! my fight should be interesting. i think ima lose, cause ill hit the weapons before i can get to the chassis...
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Curse you Jules, and you vertical spinners too!!!!
Bots that got freakishly lucky:Slasher, Rage III, System Flailure, T I T A N
Bots that got freakishly unlucky:Ripterra, NOS-BOT, Undercutter, Hazardous Contraption
Fights that should be great: Layziee vs. Iron Spaghetti, Gohem vs. Go Barbie Go, Smitemare 8 vs. Thumper, Ham-mer Sandwich 2 vs. Thunderstruck.
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Hey, somebody has to fight Jules. (Pun intended.)
I thought you said Ripterra could beat Mako, though? So you should have no problem with DOAM :mrgreen:
I beg to differ on Rage III and Hazardous Contraption. Both of those fights could easily go either way.
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I'm very excited to see all the matches. I just hope my hammers stay on.
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oh boy hammer bots! bad news for me.. if i somehow beat sages hammer bot i get another one in the form of clickbeetles hammer bot eek!
why are hammer bots bad news for my shell spinner? if they push it into a corner it'll stop spinning then they can bash away at the top of the bot.. hopefully the club provides xtra protection..
but hopefully i give one of the best matches for the round :)
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I am very happy to see T I T A N fight a reasonable opponent. I wont get my hopes to high though -to not jynx the moment-
No! My tank tread brother! I will avenge you shalt you fall...maybe.
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Crap, I have to fight one of the Mako-clones.... I'll be out in the first round.
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Firebeetle in the first Round? My campaign is over already:(
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theres always the losers bracket..
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joeCB1991: At least your is a clone!!!
Clickbeetle: It can beat Mako, but not if I drive it head on like the AI would do.
oh well, there is always the losers bracket. Either Rage III or Psycho Sweeper
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NOS-BOT seems to be pefectly designed to fight haymaker.
The sidestrips will make haymakers weapon slide right over NOS-BOT, allowing it's spinning cutter to attack the unprotected underside. A nother way is that NOS-BOT pins Haymaker up against a wall.
Interventionism will easily survive because Red tide's weapon is too high.
Hazardous contraption seems to complicated to survive. ((I see it's trying to drive right under, and slice the inderside parts.))
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NOS-BOT seems to be pefectly designed to fight haymaker.
This is untrue. Haymaker as some of the grippiest wheels possible at the MW level on the most powerful drive motors in the game. It will not get in close enough to not be pummeled.
Interventionism will easily survive because Red tide's weapon is too high.
Underestimating the Beetlebros is a very bad idea.
Hazardous contraption seems to complicated to survive. ((I see it's trying to drive right under, and slice the inderside parts.))
You've never seen Neglected Waterbug fight, have you?
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I'm not gonna try to predict the winner because I'm always wrong about it anyway. I can't wait for the first round videos!
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Interventionism will easily survive because Red tide's weapon is too high.
Red tide has a wedge... it gets under things :P
now for predictions on round 1!
i think the winners will be:
Red Red Green.
Enfilad3.
Smoker.
No leaf clover.
T-4.
Red tide VI.
layziee.
Slasher.
Go Barbie, Go.
Mace 2.
System Flailure.
Ham-mer sandwich 2.
DOAM.
Psyco sweeper.
Haymaker.
Smitemare 8.
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First round predictions:
Match #1 (Red, Red, Green? Vs. Hostility II)
Winner: Red, Red, Green?
Match #2 (Undercutter Vs. Enfilad3)
Winner: Enfilad3
Match #3 (Smoker Vs. BrasOuvert)
Winner: BrasOuvert
Match #4 (No Leaf Clover Vs. No Name #12)
Winner: No Name #12
Match #5 (T-4 Vs. Hazardous Contraption)
Winner: Hazardous Contraption
Match #6 (Red Tide VI Vs. Interventionism 2.0)
Winner: Red Tide VI
Match #7 (Layziee Vs. Iron Spaghetti)
Winner: Layziee
Match #8 (Slasher Vs. FIRST ROUND FINALE!)
Winner: Slasher
Match #9 (Go Barbie, Go! Vs. Gohem)
Winner: Go Barbie, Go!
Match #10 (Mace 2 Vs. T I T A N)
Winner: Mace 2
Match #11 (ByeyE Vs. System Failiure)
Winner: System Failiure
Match #12 (Ham-mer Sandwich 2 Vs. ThunderStruck!)
Winner: ThunderStruck!
Match #13 (Diarrhea of a Madman Vs. Ripterra)
Winner: Diarrhea of a Madman
Match #14 (Rage III Vs. Psycho Sweeper)
Winner: Rage III
Match #15 (NOS-BOT Vs. Haymaker)
Winner: Haymaker
Match #16 (Smitemare 8 Vs. Thumper)
Winner: Thumper
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if I win it will depend on where it hits Smitemare, but I don't think it will be maneuverable enough AIed to win.
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Actually in my opinion II is at a disadvantage against NOS-BOT. Those skirts look perfect to get it to wobble into instability.
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Your wrong. Haymaker will obviously win because it's made by Inf.
Thumper will have it hard.
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Your wrong. Haymaker will obviously win because it's made by Inf.
[SARCASM] You're right. The fact it's weapons have more HP, it can deliver more damage, it has lots of kinetic energy, and an extremely short spinup time have nothing to do with its chances of victory [/SARCASM]
Doesn't it occur to you I want Haymaker to lose? I couldn't care less who it's made by. The fact is that it is a better bot than NOS-BOT.
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To be fair, We don't know what's powering NOS-BOT or some others. That thing could be using a pair of hidden wheels inside for all we know.
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nos-bot doesn't have the weapons to beat haymaker.
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Who should win and who actually will win are often different. That's what keeps you sitting on the edge of your seat...:shock:.... Forum activity skyrockets during Tourneys.
Ian, I sure hope you keep your cool Tourneys going too.
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if anyone gets at Haymaker's chassis with a weapon, it won't take long, as Haymaker only has 1mm Plastic. If NOS-BOT got very lucky and hit the chassis a couple of times, Haymaker would be in big trouble.
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That's what I'm wondering.
What if:
Haymaker jammed against the arena wall, stopping it at a crucial moment?
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That is probably what will happen. If a bot with good side protection got hit by Haymaker and lived:shock:, the force would push Haymaker into the wall, and his weakly guarded chassis will take punishment. Haymaker would probably win hands down in any other open arena.
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Not to forget that large, spinning thing surrounded by walls.
That would rock if NOS-BOt flew into the spinner, and was thrown out of the arena.
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I don't think that it is THAT powerful.
Also, I built my own version of Haymaker. It is not exactly the same, but it showed to me that Haymaker has HUGE problems in the tiny arena.
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I built a Heavyweight Version and thwack bots aren't that powerful unless it can keep spinning fast enough to deflect the shots. And it looks like NOS-BOT will be able to get some good hits in.
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it only needs a few good hits anyway
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I don't really know how my bot will do, but I'm not expecting much being against Infinite in the first match. I could get lucky though... Good luck to everybody!
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you never know andrew, you just might have the bot to defeat Haymaker.
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ahahaha somebody you have no idea. haymaker beat everysingle DSL bot in the MW class and alot of HW bots and was touched by only ONE mw bot and that was Devil II. Nosbot will be decimated.
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And No Leaf Clover will destroy No Name #12. I just know it!
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And Diharrhea of a Madman will destroy Ripterra.
WHAT A SURPRISE!!:shock:
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i can't believe roboshark is giving my robot a chance of beating the hammer bot, i'm 100% sure i will lose.
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Where can I find a pic of all the entries? It should be on the first page, but I don't see it.
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Post # 129
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Thanks
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Why you all speak what bots will do, just leave bots to speak for themself what they will do in tournament...
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ahahaha somebody you have no idea. haymaker beat everysingle DSL bot in the MW class and alot of HW bots and was touched by only ONE mw bot and that was Devil II. Nosbot will be decimated.
That comes from you. Last time I heared that phrase, I was playing the worst boss battle ever.
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ahahaha somebody you have no idea. haymaker beat everysingle DSL bot in the MW class and alot of HW bots and was touched by only ONE mw bot and that was Devil II. Nosbot will be decimated.
Five words that I live by You never know for sure.
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We live in a world where no one knows nothing...
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We live in a world where no one knows nothing...
You mean country.
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Five words that I live by You never know for sure.
We live in a world where no one knows nothing...
Then how can you know this for sure..?
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If anyone wants to face me online with there bot im on the Ra2 united server for Himachi.
Me and Inf. already faced off. It was realy fun and I may post some pics of it later.
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Yeah, Im having power trouble because of storms in the area now but it was alot of fun.
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wait, if no-one knows nothing? then surly everyone knows something, and its therefore an accurate description of the word we live in, a pretty obvious observation and analysis of the world, but a valid one non the less.
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Why you all speak what bots will do, just leave bots to speak for themself what they will do in tournament...
Because it's allot of fun trying to guess. Esp. since there are always upsets...
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hi, i've just joined, so don't be harsh on me. if i'd joined sooner, id' have tried to enter. but i suppose i'll just have to wait for season 5. ah well.
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1st round winners:
Red Red, Green? vs. Hostility II
Winner: Red Red, Green
Undercutter vs. Enfilad3
Winner: Enfilad3
Smoker vs. Bras Ouvert
Winner: Smoker
No Leaf Clover vs. No Name #12
Winner: No Name #12
T-4 vs. Hazardous Contraption
Winner: T-4
Red Tide VI vs. Interventionism 2.0
Winner: Red Tide VI
Layziee vs. Iron Spaghetti
Winner: Layziee
Slasher vs. FIRST ROUND FINALE
Do I even need to say it??? Winner: Slasher (The luckiest bot in the world)
Go Barbie, Go vs. Gohem
Winner: Go Barbie, Go
Mace 2 vs. T I T A N
Winner: T I T A N
System Flailure vs. ByeyE
Winner: System Flailure
Ham-mer Sandwich 2 vs. ThunderStruck!
Winner: ThunderStruck!
Diarrhea of a Madman vs. Ripterra (The unluckiest bot in the world)
Winner: Diarrhea of a Madman
Rage III vs. Psyco Sweeper
Winner: Psycho Sweeper
Haymaker vs. NOS-BOT
Winner: NOS-BOT
Smitemare 8 vs. Thumper
Winner: Smitemare 8
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I'm sorta mad how I missed this tourney because, I forgot to send the attachment in the e-mail.
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Most Underestimated Bot: Smoker
I built an Iron Spaghetti and a Smoker for myself, fought them, and Smoker won.
What does Psyco Sweeper do.
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im guessing Psyco Sweeper gets under other bots and as they go up the claws come down.
i wouldn'y say smoker is underestimated seeing as i think we all tipped it to win in the first round, its just not as well built as it could be and the motors/extenders are pretty exposed too especially for the hammer bots to hit.
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Most Underestimated Bot: Smoker
I built an Iron Spaghetti and a Smoker for myself, fought them, and Smoker won.
What does Psyco Sweeper do.
Psyco Sweeper is a piece o' crap, but he is a piece o' crap that might win a battle or two. :P
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we's wants results
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Psyco sweeper probably attacks the underside, possibly with a drum system.
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...no.
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Psyco sweeper probably attacks the underside, possibly with a drum system.
i see no drum on it at all. i'm still wondering why people think my bot will win against sage's hammer bot :? i ran some test matches against DSL hammers and my bot gets owned by them so i have no chance.
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Psyco is a wedge, end of story.
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Now, Hosility II is a good bot, maybe it'll have a close call.
I don't think so; I'm the builder of Hostility, and i can say that it has:
+crap drive
+crap weaponry
+crap ground clearance
+crap chassis armour
so it's just gonna humiliate me - if i had any pride in the first place.
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Get self esteem, you moron.
It might survive.
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I don't think so; I'm the builder of Hostility, and i can say that it has:
+crap drive
+crap weaponry
+crap ground clearance
+crap chassis armour
so it's just gonna humiliate me - if i had any pride in the first place.
And that equals a whole pile of crap:biggrin:
Get self esteem, you moron.
It might survive.
Maybe he just didn't think it was a good bot????
It will probably make it past the first round, its not like it is against DoAM
Psy: Lay off S32, he is a noob
Oh, for crying out loud, All this is because I thought Psyco sweeper was a pop-up and you and Inf can't STFU.
S32: don't be mad at them, they no what they are talking about, they just talk about it in an assholish way.
Besides, half of the people in the tourney didn't know what Slasher did when it was first on the splash.
Lets face it, this argument is pretty stupid
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And that equals a whole pile of crap:biggrin:
that sums up my bots 'n' me perfectly!
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(sh** he said)
SOMEBODY IS MATURING :O
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Y'all might want to keep the foul language in the Off Topic section before it gets filtered, as CB and madiaba take offence to it and may block it. I don't really like to see it in the Tournament section either.
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Sorry for the spam but...
A flame war without me involved ? ...
LOL...
OMG!!!
Thats something new for this forum...
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O, c'mon, venko. It's not that odd...
What's that? Hell froze over?! Pigs are flying?! Lindsay Lohan found Jesus?!
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O, c'mon, venko. It's not that odd...
What's that? Hell froze over?! Pigs are flying?! Lindsay Lohan found Jesus?!
LOL
SOMEBODY IS MATURING :O
Do you actually mean that?
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I finally got around to making a few more prize components for this tournament.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58641bbeansprize1.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91685bbeansprize2.jpg)
Remember, all these are legal for future BBEANS tournaments for whoever wins them! (As long as stock and DSL don't overlap. For example, the Stacked SuperVolt is a stock part, and the BBEANS Blade is DSL, so you can't use one in the other version. There are two different swords for stock and DSL so you can use it in either.)
Anyone have any suggestions for additional prize components? Post them here!
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The stacked battery is brilliant.
Mabye a control board/nifty battery component for the next one? Of course, this would be much more difficult to make than the stacked battery (I'm just assuming you doubled all its stats and reskinned it, bu tI could be wrong), but it would be really handy for LW's.
Great work CB. I'm sure the whole community really appreciates it.
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Those are nice, CB. I'll try to think up a few more suggestions...
RS, the exe needs to read 2 different txts for those 2 different 'dynamic' components, but nice idea...
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Well i indeed don't want to fight against a horizontal spinner...
even if HC is fast and can get under it quickly.
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Bumping this Rules thread a bit to show off a few more last-minute prize components I whipped up.
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize3.jpg)
(http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/bbeans/images/bbeansprize4.jpg)
I also rebalanced the BBEANS Blade, so it is more powerful and less durable (391 DP, 20000 HP).
Remember, any four of these prize components are yours to choose from should you win second place, the rumble, or one of the bonus awards. And if you're champion, you also get the sword.
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woah! i was thinking of making a nifty that worked as a CB, but turned out it was impossible. nice job.