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Title: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 13, 2010, 03:49:12 PM
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This is my tournament idea. Basically, it will involve each of us rebuilding another's first showcased bot. It doesn't matter what weight class, as long as it is legal (So you can't do Scooby-Bot). Here are the rules:

-It will be HW, rebuild the bots to that class if they are not HW.
- It will be either Stock or DSL depending on the results of the poll I set up.
- I'm looking at 16 entrants at the moment, first come first serve, including myself.
- No BFE, AMM or ZeroG. BFE armour c will be enforced.
- While it's easier for me if you AI your own bots, I can AI for you if you want. Custom AI allowed as long as it isn't cheaty.
- Matches will be best of three, and there are some restart rules:
- 1 havok restart is permitted each round, after a second match-affecting havok I shall impose a disqualification.
- Unlimited restarts are allowed for bots getting counted out after getting stuck on components, getting stuck in the floor for no reason or the bots just spin in circles for ever.
- Multibots are forbidden.
- Custom parts and Cheatbot2 parts are forbidden. The only exceptions are custom smartzones, but only for AI'ing purposes. They may not be used for weight-adjusting or attaching components.
- Further rules depend on if this tournament is stock or DSL.

The arena will be my Twiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisted Arena. Help on getting it to work with a .bmp map to give it more than plain colour would be greatly appreciated.

Prizes will come later.

There will be a losers bracket, and I'll post the bracket later. And it won't start for a bit.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: yoda9726 on April 13, 2010, 04:20:06 PM
Interesting idea. a few questions.
 How close do we have to keep the rebuild to the original bot?  Do we keep it as close as possible, or is there allowance for creative licence? 
 
What about controlled movement?  My first showcased bot has zero, if someone had to rebuild mine, would they be required to give it controlled movement?
 
But, cool idea for a tourney.  as far as stock or dsl, my vote would be for dsl, since i can't stand stock.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 13, 2010, 04:24:08 PM
Interesting idea. a few questions.
 How close do we have to keep the rebuild to the original bot?  Do we keep it as close as possible, or is there allowance for creative licence?  I would allow creativity up to a certain degree, but I'd prefer it if you rebuild it as close as you can without hampering combat effectivness.
 
What about controlled movement?  My first showcased bot has zero, if someone had to rebuild mine, would they be required to give it controlled movement? It depends on the original bot. Yours would be acceptable for no contolled movement, but for say, Ounce's Stiletto, it would need it.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 13, 2010, 04:29:09 PM
You have saved so many tournaments it is nice to see you make one for yourself.  I will participate in this when it is active. I like the idea.

My only qualm is: Lots of the veterans dont have showcases that go that far back... A lot of them were lost in the forum changeovers and Atari deletion.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 13, 2010, 04:30:18 PM
That's a bit of a problem. If they have pics, we'll use them. If not, then the first showcased bot here at GTM.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Sage on April 13, 2010, 04:36:43 PM
So, someone is gonna rebuild Insidious? :D
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 13, 2010, 04:38:07 PM
If we have a pic of it, and the tourney is Stock/DSL (Whichever is applicable)
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 13, 2010, 04:47:18 PM
Btw I choose stock in the poll.  Because everyone starts at stock. It is the true beginning.  Besides I am totally itching to take a god-awful noob bot and make it competitive.  This will be like Noob Warz on crack.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: yoda9726 on April 13, 2010, 04:50:14 PM
Btw I choose stock in the poll.  Because everyone starts at stock. It is the true beginning.  Besides I am totally itching to take a god-awful noob bot and make it competitive.  This will be like Noob Warz on crack.

I didn't think of that, but you've got a point.  As much as i hate stock (no longer even have a copy of stock installed) it's for purely asthetic reasons, i think it's ugly.  But this tourney would make more sense as stock.  i withdraw my vote. 
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: powerrave on April 13, 2010, 05:01:52 PM
this looks interesting. i voted DSL as i like it way more the stock. if it becomes stock, i still have a pic of my very first bot, also the first vulcan series bot. but we shall see what this will become.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Sage on April 13, 2010, 05:25:46 PM
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I call this one^
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Badnik96 on April 13, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
In this case, where I posted like 10 bots at once, can I pick any of the bots that are showcased in the first post?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: COOLRUNNER87 on April 13, 2010, 07:33:34 PM
I voted for DSL since... well... I don't have a single stock bot to my credit anymore. I think I've deleted all of those pictures from my Photobucket, and the place where I originally posted them is perma-closed.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 13, 2010, 07:55:14 PM
Badnik, Coolrunner, don't forget... He said in the description that we would be rebuilding bots built by other people not our own first bots.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: SKBT on April 13, 2010, 08:56:51 PM
I like the idea for this.

I hope this is DSL not stock.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Sage on April 13, 2010, 09:22:44 PM
What the heck? Guys, who here made their very first bot in DSL?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Pwnator on April 13, 2010, 10:18:21 PM
So, someone is gonna rebuild Insidious? :D


I'll do it. But I won't do Abstract. It'll just be another Bumble Bee. :P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Sage on April 13, 2010, 10:29:57 PM
Screw this, I'm remaking Insidious anyways xD

O: PWN! INSIDIOUS CONTEST!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Pwnator on April 13, 2010, 10:37:28 PM
Go Up Here and Bermuda Peril are good choices, too. :P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Doomkiller on April 13, 2010, 11:00:07 PM
Nice idea. I choose stock, mainly because, well IDK I just choose it ok ;P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 13, 2010, 11:58:09 PM
LOL if you win your basically piggy backing off someone elses work

(and nice singling out of ScoobyBot GK, others used cheat parts as a first showcased robot also  :p )
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 14, 2010, 02:49:39 AM
It's not the person's absolute first bot, it's the first they showcased, in case people were confused.

(and nice singling out of ScoobyBot GK, others used cheat parts as a first showcased robot also  :p )

It's the only one I knew/could remember.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 14, 2010, 03:08:39 AM
Anyone for my Car bots?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 14, 2010, 03:10:01 AM
In response to your IM question, if people showcase multiple bots, then its the very first that is used. So Vroooooom for you.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Naryar on April 14, 2010, 05:12:31 AM
(and nice singling out of ScoobyBot GK, others used cheat parts as a first showcased robot also  :p )
It's the only one I knew/could remember.

The Immense One
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 14, 2010, 05:26:22 AM
So when you have all entrants, they will be randomised and assigned to other entrants to make their bots?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 14, 2010, 05:30:33 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Gazea2 on April 14, 2010, 05:37:54 AM
This sounds like a great idea. :)

I voted for stock because I suck at DSL.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Stagfish on April 14, 2010, 05:44:25 AM
^so did i cause i suck at dsl aswell
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 14, 2010, 05:48:38 AM
I vote for 2 series's
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 16, 2010, 10:35:59 AM
Ok, I'll let the poll run till the end of the week, and I shall then choose Stock or DSL.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on April 16, 2010, 10:42:01 AM
DSL because I'd like to see what people could make out of Magic Box 3.0 :P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Badnik96 on April 16, 2010, 05:25:57 PM
If it's DSL, then I call Mike's Cthulu!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: 090901 on April 16, 2010, 05:37:05 PM
If DSL, I call Reier MD2.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: System32 on April 16, 2010, 05:54:23 PM
If DSL, I'm killing JoeBlo.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: 027 LB on April 16, 2010, 07:17:09 PM
Sounds interesting! Maybe someone will rebuild Backfire!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: System32 on April 16, 2010, 07:44:12 PM
Who is voting DSL?
 
Seriusly, half of them won't even enter, and we need a stock tournament right now.
 
And as Nar said, it adds to the feel of NW on crack.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: 027 LB on April 16, 2010, 07:45:23 PM
me.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: System32 on April 16, 2010, 07:54:43 PM
DSL doesn't fit with this tournament, and as Jack (Not Nary... SORRY!) said:
 
Btw I choose stock in the poll.  Because everyone starts at stock. It is the true beginning.  Besides I am totally itching to take a god-awful noob bot and make it competitive.  This will be like Noob Warz on crack.

Stock, The beginning of every RA2 game. The first bots, arenas, components. Even if you didn't play it, it was there.
 
It all started with stock, and stock is pretty much being left out with the BBEANS hype. Let's have it stock!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Sage on April 16, 2010, 09:55:35 PM
Not entering if it's DSL.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 16, 2010, 11:39:12 PM
If DSL, I'm killing JoeBlo.

cant you find another hostage ? I dont think im all that liked by many anymore
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 17, 2010, 01:38:52 AM
Guys, there is to be no 'calling' any bots. It will be random.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 17, 2010, 01:49:19 AM
It all started with stock, and stock is pretty much being left out with the BBEANS hype. Let's have it stock!

stock is kinda on life support in the tournament section... not very much there. I think the complexity of sub weight class designs turns many people off from starting them.

while skill is present in DSL you can make effective robots quickly you dont need to devote loads of time towards well thought out designs off one snapper
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Avalanche on April 17, 2010, 06:09:03 AM
I think that if DSL,we should pick someones first ever bot even it wasnt showcased.The ones that did not get showcased will be in a special thread for it.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Naryar on April 17, 2010, 06:11:00 AM
And how many people here still do have their very first DSL bot ?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 17, 2010, 06:17:04 AM
Me!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Pwnator on April 17, 2010, 06:27:17 AM
Hahaha I do!

Grey Matter lol


This is the point S32's trying to make. Some people only tried DSL when they were already somewhat experienced with the vanilla version.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on April 17, 2010, 07:13:18 AM
I sucked at Stock so I moved to DSL.

:P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Badnik96 on April 17, 2010, 08:07:43 AM
And how many people here still do have their very first DSL bot ?

Me.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 17, 2010, 08:36:23 AM
ehehe
 
I have broken the tie  :gawe:
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 17, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
If DSL, I'm killing JoeBlo.

cant you find another hostage ? I dont think im all that liked by many anymore

It may seem that way.  But, in all reality, out of the top 5 posters on the forum... two of them seem to like to pick on you a bit.  They don't speak for the rest of us though.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Badnik96 on April 17, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
Nooez JoeBlo!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 17, 2010, 11:38:06 AM
But, in all reality, out of the top 5 posters on the forum... two of them seem to like to pick on you a bit. 

Sys and Nary? Reier, Joe and myself do not pick on Joe.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 17, 2010, 11:52:08 AM
[Sys and Nary? Reier, Joe and myself do not pick on Joe.

I hate JoeBlo he's stupid and should be banned [/random and most likely unfunny joke attempt]

I just dont really feel it much anymore.. like not many people have a show of respect for me or my efforts (when I say respect I dont mean as in so great, high rating on my wiki page, etc.. just a general level) I get a lot insults, rude comments, complaining, short responses and other assorted things)

maybe its just me being on a bit of a down lately  :ermm:

-----------

anyway this is making a mockery of me being voted "Most Likly to stay on topic" so.. yeah.. back on topic now
 
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: System32 on April 17, 2010, 12:19:01 PM
If I kill you, no backlash or CC 3.
 
14 + people would have ruined this forum, your blood on their hands.
 
YOU WANT THAT GUYS?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 17, 2010, 12:27:16 PM
Joe, just because some pople aren't appreciative of you work, are a bit picky or are 'doing a thyrus' doesn't mean the rest of us don't appreciate you and your AMAZING work. You have gone from a newbie entering BBEANS 5 with an inefficient robot to one of the most respected (Or at least in my mind), kind, helpful and knoweledgeable members of the forum.

I found the joke funny.

@Sys: WTF?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: System32 on April 17, 2010, 12:30:39 PM
YOU VOTE DSL, JOE DIES!
 
BACKLASH DIES WITH HIM!
 
YOU WANT THAT? I'LL DO IT!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on April 17, 2010, 01:07:46 PM
Shut up.

I think you rawk Joe.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Jack Daniels on April 17, 2010, 01:19:41 PM
Ohhhhhh I get it now.  System32 was making a funny. 

He's taking Joe hostage so that people will vote for Stock instead of DSL.  Because we all love Joe.  In all actuality it is a compliment because Joe is valuable to us.

If we dont vote for Stock like Sys32 wants us to. He will kill Joe and, thus, we will not have him around to do awesome tournaments/mods and such.

Silly misunderstanding.  I thought Sys32 was pegging the success of DSL on Joe and he just wanted him dead because of that.

So, yeah, since I want you all to vote for Stock too... I am helping in taking Joe hostage.  If you all don't vote stock I am hiring Serge (mafia style) to hack GTM and perma ban Joe.  Then he wont be around to moderate and the whole place will go down the tubes.  Sys32 will then kill him.  :P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 17, 2010, 01:23:29 PM
:O

The evil plan is unveiled!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Badnik96 on April 17, 2010, 03:02:44 PM
But I suck at Stock!
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 17, 2010, 03:23:46 PM
Avalanche: No, I decide the rules of my tournament. I've had this idea for months.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: System32 on April 17, 2010, 03:36:34 PM
Avalanche: No, I decide the rules of my tournament. I've had this idea for months.

Bait and switch, eh?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 17, 2010, 03:55:21 PM
?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 17, 2010, 11:50:27 PM
Ohhhhhh I get it now.  System32 was making a funny.

yeah I know that :P S32 never picks on me ?

anyway I will delete the Backlash build files if you dont vote stock mwahaha
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Doomkiller on April 17, 2010, 11:58:42 PM
lucky I did vote for stock :P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 18, 2010, 12:05:21 AM
I just realized this tournament is actually really awesome lol I thought we cloned others first robots originally (noob warz ish) but by rebuild you mean make improvements :D
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Pwnator on April 18, 2010, 12:12:32 AM
I just hope the first bot picked for me isn't something like Influenza or Smallpox. You can always rebuild those, but they aren't improvements either 'cause they're still 36HSes. XD
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 19, 2010, 10:29:31 AM
Ok, this tournament will be Stock. Signups page soon.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 19, 2010, 10:35:13 AM
*phew* I dont have to kill backlash :P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 19, 2010, 10:35:50 AM
BttB 2 will be DSL.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Reier on April 19, 2010, 10:43:21 AM
If it's stock I'm doomed.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: JoeBlo on April 19, 2010, 10:45:43 AM
says the person who currently has a Stock LW that won two tournaments ?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Reier on April 19, 2010, 10:47:37 AM
LOL one bot :P I stink at stock and all the stupid glitches.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 19, 2010, 10:48:25 AM
Your Influenza will be rebuilt though. Can't you resist that?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Reier on April 19, 2010, 10:49:04 AM
My rebuild of someone else's first bot will be worse than the original... XD
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 19, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
What about this?

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/56959screenshot_27.bmp)
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: powerrave on April 20, 2010, 09:37:52 AM
no doubt there. i wonder now, does the chassis need to be the same as well?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on April 20, 2010, 10:28:58 AM
It needs to be reasonably similar. I shall be more clear in the signups thread that will come soon.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: powerrave on April 22, 2010, 03:08:57 PM
good. i feel sorry for the one that will have to rebuild my first bot, Vulcan.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on May 02, 2010, 04:00:30 AM
Ok, I have time to make the signups thread.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Gazea2 on May 02, 2010, 04:02:11 AM
I can't wait. :)
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on May 02, 2010, 04:06:06 AM
Signups posted, waiting moderator approval.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Gazea2 on May 02, 2010, 04:08:18 AM
I'm entering this. :)
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on May 02, 2010, 04:10:09 AM
But you'll have to post that in the signups thread.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Gazea2 on May 02, 2010, 04:11:06 AM
I know. The thread hasn't shown up though because it needs to be approved.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on May 02, 2010, 04:14:11 AM
I know. :D
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Gazea2 on May 02, 2010, 04:16:24 AM
It's funny how we always talk to each other on different threads and no one else posts.
[/offtopic]

So, have you made a list of the bots that we are going to have to rebuild?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on May 02, 2010, 04:20:50 AM
No, the competitors will be rebuilding each other's first showcased bots.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Gazea2 on May 02, 2010, 04:21:41 AM
I know that but do we get to choose who's we rebuild?
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on May 02, 2010, 04:24:21 AM
No. They are randomised.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Gazea2 on May 02, 2010, 04:24:55 AM
Ok. :D
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: Badnik96 on May 02, 2010, 07:25:12 AM
Hmm, Stock? Someone will rebuild Arcade! :P
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: G.K. on May 02, 2010, 07:29:16 AM
And make it a HW.
Title: Re: Back To The Beginnings
Post by: powerrave on May 02, 2010, 07:50:38 AM
this will bring so much crappy bots i think.