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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #220 on: June 11, 2013, 02:35:54 AM »
Wow, I totally missed that :dumb)

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #221 on: June 11, 2013, 07:51:39 AM »
"Wow" at the sudden interest at my showcase.

How well do the trappers work?
Spinja - ok/average
the hammer one - perfect/exellent

I do believe you can save a few kg's on extender work by attaching the top swords to the anchors holding the ramplates.
Let's say I gain 10 kilos, then what? Adding a wedges or a new DDT weapon system with 10 kgs?

Tall opponents WILL be a pain to beat
Or the wedgy opponents, or any good opponents actually,... if you get my point. I posted these bots to prove a concept, they are not top combat bots.

Do you really think it would even have a chance against those without the trappers?
The top trapping swords are actually "A MUST HAVE"! The HSs always slips up or bumples around and rape me, when I test a trapper without top swords. Remember, that I always test my bots, also, in a different configurations to find out the best one.

Wow, I totally missed that :dumb)
I don't like when the poeple don't read my huge posts, but yeah, I stole that name, so I gave you a credit there.  :mrgreen:

Thanks to all for the posts btw. I'm slowly working on a new texture pack along with the bots. Basically, I'm making these textures for my purposes, then I just decide to share them.

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #222 on: June 11, 2013, 01:14:10 PM »
I do believe you can save a few kg's on extender work by attaching the top swords to the anchors holding the ramplates.
Let's say I gain 10 kilos, then what? Adding a wedges or a new DDT weapon system with 10 kgs?
One more weapon ? Or a very slightly lighter and therefore faster bot ?

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #223 on: June 11, 2013, 03:23:44 PM »
I know, that you want to help, and I'm thankful for it, but...
One more weapon ?
The max weight, that can be mounted on the DDT is allready reached, one more razor and it won't get back into his intial position.
Or a very slightly lighter and therefore faster bot ?
To be read ^ : "Cut your nails to loose some weight". Nar,... seriously? One more pink, anyone?  :dumb)

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #224 on: June 17, 2013, 10:46:07 AM »
DP. What to say... I just love epic/overkill stuff :

A flail-snapper_enhanced-SnSnS bot type? As you can see from the ingame shot, I consider the unstable snappers "flexible/flail". It was about ~2968 kgs with an excelent protection on the drive and weapon motors, but it becomes a deadly flying bumple ball on every "enemy touch", so I remove all the protections. Now it's "calm" and deadly, VERY deadly...  :evilsmile: It spins faster than a protons in the large hadron collider.

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #225 on: June 17, 2013, 12:22:16 PM »
Basically you built a mega-trinity?

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #226 on: June 17, 2013, 12:47:32 PM »
Damn you and your 4 stacked black batts.
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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #227 on: June 17, 2013, 12:50:47 PM »
interesting, do you still need to fire the snappers for that amount of flexibility?

also
Damn you and your 4 stacked black batts.
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is this bot don't lost all razors in a fight before do a damage thought

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #228 on: June 18, 2013, 10:10:56 AM »
Scary. :eek:

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #229 on: June 18, 2013, 10:21:15 AM »
Venko is teh Stock god.

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #230 on: June 18, 2013, 07:47:44 PM »
Thanks, guys!

And you say that snapper-enhancing drive motors does nothing...
It really does nothing! Dude, look, if you think, that I'm lieing you or something, you can easily make some bots and test this, VERY easily...

Basically you built a mega-trinity?
Nope. No pistons.

Damn you and your 4 stacked black batts.
How about the 20 stacked pinks  :trollface

interesting, do you still need to fire the snappers for that amount of flexibility?
Nope, they are not even wired, they twists cos their axels are weak. The bot just spins SOOOOOOO fast, that the snappers;drive motors;weapon motors axels are displaced/removed (from the original position) due to the enormous centrifugal force. "The axels amount of the displacement" is proportional to the spinning speed, and in that pic, is one of a h**l "amount of the displacement", for those that don't understand...



Also, I'm going to +rep S.H.I.E.L.D, for the manly act of uploading of his controversy bot "Black tarantula". His bot have a static wedge, titanium armour and it's not invertible and can't srimech usually. Now I can finaly test it and proof my theory. 1 vs 1, one match only, Combat Arena, hazards OFF, 3 mins matches, Starcore 3, AI vs AI (popup.py), 29 wins in total vs all the 69 SC3 HWs (this means, that it can beat only 42% of the HWs). The result can variate, but still is a fail IMO, considering how weak are most of the SC3 bots. So NO : "almost unstoppable, has beaten the whole roster of Starcore 3"; "it can trash more than 2/3 of the SC3 bots" or whatever.
A huge pic with the results :

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #231 on: June 18, 2013, 08:06:36 PM »
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Also, I'm going to +rep S.H.I.E.L.D, for the manly act of uploading of his controversy bot "Black tarantula". His bot have a static wedge, titanium armour and it's not invertible and can't srimech usually. Now I can finaly test it and proof my theory. 1 vs 1, one match only, Combat Arena, hazards OFF, 3 mins matches, Starcore 3, AI vs AI (popup.py), 29 wins in total vs all the 69 SC3 HWs (this means, that it can beat only 42% of the HWs). The result can variate, but still is a fail IMO, considering how weak are most of the SC3 bots. So NO : "almost unstoppable, has beaten the whole roster of Starcore 3"; "it can trash more than 2/3 of the SC3 bots" or whatever.
A huge pic with the results :

 :dumb)

Explains why I failed math.
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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #232 on: June 18, 2013, 08:17:14 PM »
Explains why I failed math.
Nope, just there is a big difference between : "AI vs AI" and "Player vs AI" in the battles in RA2.
So yeah, maybe I overreacted, but I was still kinda right for this bot :dumb)

Anyway, I wish you "a good luck with your progress in RA2"/"to become a good builder", have fun with RA2.

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #233 on: June 18, 2013, 08:28:42 PM »
mm yes the sns looks nice. no idea why you feel the need to have 8 blacks (6400 output) for 21 spin motors (2100 imput)
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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #234 on: June 18, 2013, 08:30:26 PM »
Explains why I failed math.
Nope, just there is a big difference between : "AI vs AI" and "Player vs AI" in the battles in RA2.
So yeah, maybe I overreacted, but I was still kinda right for this bot :dumb)

Anyway, I wish you "a good luck with your progress in RA2"/"to become a good builder", have fun with RA2.

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #235 on: June 18, 2013, 08:57:26 PM »
And you say that snapper-enhancing drive motors does nothing...
The point of "boosting" is purely to increase instability, and therefore drive axle detachment during the spin.  This creates the "return to axle" force that pulls outward in all directions, result in a significant speed boost in rotation.

Since it doesn't actually boost torque, it does nothing for things that moves forward.  But in this case it probably does make a difference.

Of course, putting drive on snapper is certainly not the only way to cause detachment/instability.

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #236 on: June 19, 2013, 01:20:12 AM »
^^ Makes sense.

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #237 on: June 19, 2013, 04:08:19 PM »
What I tryed to explain to Lightning S. basically was, that we usually don't get any speed or pushing advantage, if the drive is on a snapper, in a rammer for example.

An ancient chineese text says :
The best way to protect an extender is the lack of the extender :

[warning]Since the 140 square extenders are allowed almost everywhere, I will not tolerate a double standarts! So, if someone : consider this use of red 140s (35 kgs per each) as "CHEAP or ILLEGAL", but it's OK with the 140 square; or a bots that used them (red 140s) are labeled as "the new Cheap Norris" and banned, but a bots with 140 square - not; or allow in a tournament the square one only --- it will experiance a serious -rep -ing + adding him to my "black list". I'm not joking![/warning]

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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #238 on: June 19, 2013, 05:03:17 PM »
You used those? I found them a long time ago and couldnt think of a good use. Are they effective?
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Re: Venko's showcase
« Reply #239 on: June 20, 2013, 12:12:08 AM »
Geez venko chill out.

Well since you have the drive armored and stuff it doesn't look like a cheap norris bot to me. In fact I think it's pretty cool, using the invisible extenders to help feed HS into the weapon. Sweet.


Is there a reason for the pole spikes instead of razors?