Usman's showcase

[infiniteinertia]

Not bad, for a beginner.

[usman111]

2 blk batt, 2 hp ztek drive, 2 hp ztek for weps, 8 razor tips each disk, 2 disk, wheel protections, back and side, to wedges on 1 snapper2. Again any improvements to be made please tell.

[Naryar]

This bot has potential.


-1 black is enough for 4 HP's (or if you really want power add a nifty)
-Effeing with high power servos = wasted weight. Use normal snappers or even Snapper II's (find the AI parts unlocker in the downloads)
-Rear defense (razors and spike strips) is pretty much pointless, you'd better focus on side defense, maybe using caster armor, or two actual wedges (two small wedges on two different snappers)
-Then you could get a smaller chassis (and it seems also you can get a flatter one)

[usman111]

hmm on beetlebro website says big blk batt gives 800 output and hp ztek -400? so 2 should be right for 4 hps?

[Naryar]

For some reason you can underpower your "spin-motor-only" bots 50% (spinner, rammer, poker, etc), but don't do that if they have active burst motors (popup, flipper, hammer).

This loophole is actually said on Click's website before the stats table that you're quoting.

[R0B0SH4RK]

A general rule of thumb: never use less than two Black Batteries on any HW. Ever.

Also, the big servo is pretty much wasted weight. Remove it, and use the weight to put on another snapper and wedge. Also, try to have only one small wedge per snapper.

[Somebody]

All servos are exactly the same in amount of weight being able to be carried and lifted. so smaller=better

[R1885]

I have say other wise about that servo. It may be the bigsest in its hight set like a drive motor, but its the easyest to fit in a low body. I say keep it.

[Somebody]

If he switched it, he would have enough weight to put iron spikes instead of razor tips.

[usman111]

redone the bot:

the back thing is pretty useless but had alot of weight left over (2 blk batt stacked).

And a new bot, similiar to Vortex CE:

[infiniteinertia]

i think the redo is worse, considering you dont need that protection in the back.

and the CE clone, ick.

[Naryar]

Well, your Armorgeddon is better - frontally. The rear defense that is indeed useless, as your two casters just between the 2 blacks and the right drive Ztek.

It's not because you have weight left that you must, well, waste it.

You better improve your drive, or add more weapons, or more front defense.

_______

Your Vortex CE should be flatter and use grannies. Also, you better change the irons position (one under the other, like Little Darling and most of the modern HS) because your spinner will do more damage like that.

[usman111]

OK, removed the crap off rear and added more drive:




CE clone: spikes are now under originals.

[Sage]

HURRAH FOR SAGE'S SKIN PACK.
 
 
For Vortex CE, nice attempt at an HS. Everyone says "big wheels, big target" but those wheels are skinny, making it harder to hit from the side (where wheels are usually hit).
 
One thing you should keep in mind is that you shouldn't listen to Naryar all the time. He's strictly by the book, and has little real expeirance in good stock building.
 
Here's my table:
 
HW HS- 2 blacks. NO exceptions.
 
HW popup- 2-3 Burst Motors= 3 Blacks (4 if you have extra weight, but should probably use it for armor), 4 Burst motors= 4 Blacks (3 if really, really desperate for weight, but plan for 4)
 
HW VS- 2 blacks.
 
HW Rammer- 4wd is 1 black. this is where the 2 black rule is not needed, cause it's just drive motors. 6wd you really should use 2 blacks, because if you use one it will be actually about the same speed as 4wd with 2 blacks, just a little faster perhaps (no concrete testing here)
 
 
All that is from almost 2 years experiance. But, each and every design is different.
 
More Battery- More Power- More Used Weight
Less Battery- Less Power- MOre free wieght to use on other things.

[infiniteinertia]

The VS is not bad, not bad at all.

the HS, again, ick.

[kill343gs]

VS is decent, I would however make it so all of the drive is built off of those snappers and organize the insides a little better. For one, you could use a Snapper 2 for each of those weapon motors.

Re: Sage on HW Rammers: Black and nifty is fine on 6wd.

[usman111]

HURRAH FOR SAGE'S SKIN PACK.
 
 
For Vortex CE, nice attempt at an HS. Everyone says "big wheels, big target" but those wheels are skinny, making it harder to hit from the side (where wheels are usually hit).
 
One thing you should keep in mind is that you shouldn't listen to Naryar all the time. He's strictly by the book, and has little real expeirance in good stock building.
 
Here's my table:
 
HW HS- 2 blacks. NO exceptions.
 
HW popup- 2-3 Burst Motors= 3 Blacks (4 if you have extra weight, but should probably use it for armor), 4 Burst motors= 4 Blacks (3 if really, really desperate for weight, but plan for 4)
 
HW VS- 2 blacks.
 
HW Rammer- 4wd is 1 black. this is where the 2 black rule is not needed, cause it's just drive motors. 6wd you really should use 2 blacks, because if you use one it will be actually about the same speed as 4wd with 2 blacks, just a little faster perhaps (no concrete testing here)
 
 
All that is from almost 2 years experiance. But, each and every design is different.
 
More Battery- More Power- More Used Weight
Less Battery- Less Power- MOre free wieght to use on other things.

What about 6 DDT burst? And always 2 blk batt for HW HS even for different amounts of motors?