TheRoyalBadger's Stock Showcase

[madman3]

Who the said you should only enter bots for "FUN" in tournaments, and that entering to win is a bad thing ? I'm going to punch this guy in the face right now.

What is problematic as a builder, however, is that you are entering a cheap clone of a design without thinking much, instead of coming up with an interesting, original design.

It would be alright if you attempted to IMPROVE the design, but since it's actually worse, the point is moot.

You didn't created or innovated on this design, therefore you have no right to spam it in tournaments.

The idea of bots being built to win being "cheap ass" is discrediting to virtually any effeciency builder. Bumble Bee is arguably cheap but it's still a good bot and well developed, likewise with virtually every flail SnS and so on that people whine about. So yeah, give it a rest Marty.

It's people like you who ruin tourneys. Instead of entering for fun, with the offchance to win, you enter a cheap ass bot that's highly likely to win and kill all of the fun of the tourney and make the hosts life dull.

I hope you're happy.

Yup.

The tourney is done by AI, so the only fun that I can get out of it is by doing moderately well. What's the fun in building a *cool* bot if it's only going to get torn to pieces?

you can make a cool bot and do moderately well.

But that's just as boring. Building a bunch of bots within the community's botched idea of cool is just going to reduce the variation of bots in a tourney. Make more of an effort towards making your bots effective without necessarily sacrificing rule of cool would probably be better.

[Badger]

Best not to enter it in a tourney then. What can I do to improve it?

[Mr. AS]

hey trb just a tip: maybe you should try to make use of the interchangeable weaponry rule and make a chassis that you can easily turn from one type of bot to another, so you can play to your opponents disadvantages, becos if you get pitted up against a juggernaut hs with that thing you are s.c.r.e.w.e.d. and that chassis can really be made into much else

this will all be over when i find a way to counter flail SNS

[martymidget]

Who the said you should only enter bots for "FUN" in tournaments, and that entering to win is a bad thing ? I'm going to punch this guy in the face right now.

What is problematic as a builder, however, is that you are entering a cheap clone of a design without thinking much, instead of coming up with an interesting, original design.

It would be alright if you attempted to IMPROVE the design, but since it's actually worse, the point is moot.

You didn't created or innovated on this design, therefore you have no right to spam it in tournaments.

The idea of bots being built to win being "cheap ass" is discrediting to virtually any effeciency builder. Bumble Bee is arguably cheap but it's still a good bot and well developed, likewise with virtually every flail SnS and so on that people whine about. So yeah, give it a rest Marty.

Coming from the guy who has single handedly made me bored of my own tourney....

[madman3]

Who the said you should only enter bots for "FUN" in tournaments, and that entering to win is a bad thing ? I'm going to punch this guy in the face right now.

What is problematic as a builder, however, is that you are entering a cheap clone of a design without thinking much, instead of coming up with an interesting, original design.

It would be alright if you attempted to IMPROVE the design, but since it's actually worse, the point is moot.

You didn't created or innovated on this design, therefore you have no right to spam it in tournaments.

The idea of bots being built to win being "cheap ass" is discrediting to virtually any effeciency builder. Bumble Bee is arguably cheap but it's still a good bot and well developed, likewise with virtually every flail SnS and so on that people whine about. So yeah, give it a rest Marty.

Coming from the guy who has single handedly made me bored of my own tourney....

Once again, only further discrediting my effort, in this case 3 hours of building and 2 of testing. I'm not going to deliberately make my bots worse just so everyone else has a better chance. If that makes my bot boring, deal with it.

Also, sheesh bro, I asked you to up the spin speed of the weapon :P

@TRB: the bot is looks okay but as Nary says, you should at least improve the bot your cloning.

[090901]

But that's just as boring. Building a bunch of bots within the community's botched idea of cool is just going to reduce the variation of bots in a tourney. Make more of an effort towards making your bots effective without necessarily sacrificing rule of cool would probably be better.

By cool I'm talking about hybrids, so I don't see how that would cut down on variation.

[madman3]

But that's just as boring. Building a bunch of bots within the community's botched idea of cool is just going to reduce the variation of bots in a tourney. Make more of an effort towards making your bots effective without necessarily sacrificing rule of cool would probably be better.

By cool I'm talking about hybrids, so I don't see how that would cut down on variation.

Ah, fair enough. Still most Hybrids are weaker than standard bot types and are already confined to fairly accepted setups.

[Badger]

Last post: 31-10-2012

Oh dear.

Anyways I bring you this:



I tried it against AC and it won pretty handily, idk why. Had like 1/4 of its maces left (and the razor!). I swear I saw a 36HS with a ramplate on it aaaaaaages ago, is that possible? Does anyone do stock tournaments anymore?

[ecolusian]

this is why i dont do stock, it looks so complicated yet so cool at the same time!

[Badger]

this is why i dont do stock, it looks so complicated yet so cool at the same time!

It looks more complicated than it is because everything is intersecting each other, it would actually be pretty easy to understand with a diagram. Still, it's annoying to build, stacking everything took hours by itself, thank god I have some good music to listen to and 2 monitors.

[Sage]

Yep, very simple setup. Looks pretty good though. I would raise the snappers by 2 clicks so all the motors are flush with the chassis, and also rotate the drive motors so the flat side is on the ground.

Ramplates on 36HS are doable, but require a 1 snapper setup, or using only 1 extender per weapon arm (usually both), or something like NFX did where he used 3 nifties instead of 2 blacks. Personally I've never had the patience for a triple nifty + CB stack.
Try a few more times against AC, sometimes HS fights are lucky.

As far as stock tournaments, theres one going on that I know of. Dunno about any coming up. Keep building though! Keep stock alive!

[Badger]

I actually was originally gonna do a single snapper setup but I got cockblocked by the rule of 7. How would you go about getting 36 weapons onto a single snapper setup?

I'll have to try the triple nifty + cb stack when I'm feeling particularly masochistic.

Edit nvm pretty sure I thought of a way to do it,  remind me tomorrow

[Pwnator]

A single snapper setup usually means all 3 weapons on a single extender, or slight asymmetry with 3 weapons on 2 extenders. It's the general tradeoff given the constraints.

[Mecha]

Last post: 31-10-2012

Who knew there was 31 months? 

Anyway, about the bot. Seems like a regular 36hs. More experienced builders already gave advice so I won't be giving any.
Also, yay, stock!

[Badger]

Last post: 31-10-2012

Who knew there was 31 months? 

Anyway, about the bot. Seems like a regular 36hs. More experienced builders already gave advice so I won't be giving any.
Also, yay, stock!

I never saw the logic in MM/DD/YY

Anyways, wouldn't this setup work?

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WW
 EEW
 SW
MEEM
With W being a weapon motor, E being extender, M being a drive motor and S being a snapper? Gets around RO7 and uses all 3 free APs on 2 attached extenders. Weapon motors are uneven but oh well.

[Sage]

I mean yeah that works. Ugly as sin though. Also, how you gonna attach the ramplate?

[Badger]

I mean yeah that works. Ugly as sin though. Also, how you gonna attach the ramplate?

I'll work that out later :P

I can't think of another way to get 6 ztecs onto 1 snapper.

[Sage]

I mean yeah that works. Ugly as sin though. Also, how you gonna attach the ramplate?

I'll work that out later :P

I can't think of another way to get 6 ztecs onto 1 snapper.

If I can do 7

you can do 6. Hint: the drive motors don't need to worry about the rule of 7

[Badger]

Managed to get it all on 1 snapper



Few problems:
The bot shakes vertically like it has parkinsons, even when idle. It's actually so weird.
I messed up the ramplate extender work so I just removed it to make it cleaner
Forgot to raise the snapper 2 ticks

I'll remake it tomorrow or friday and get it all right.

[Gauche Suede]

Managed to get it all on 1 snapper

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Few problems:
The bot shakes vertically like it has parkinsons, even when idle. It's actually so weird.
I messed up the ramplate extender work so I just removed it to make it cleaner
Forgot to raise the snapper 2 ticks

I'll remake it tomorrow or friday and get it all right.

What's the extender setup ? It looks really sloppy.