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Taco's Stock Showcase
« on: October 14, 2011, 10:58:18 PM »
Well, here's my first showcased bot:

Problems:
-It can drive upside down, but isn't very effective that way.
-When the weapon turns on it make the bot spin a little for a second.

Any tips to improve it are appreciated!

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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 11:20:12 PM »
Not bad for a first bot, though this will run fine off just a Nifty battery, and it's possible to make it invertible using only shiny hub wheels.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2011, 01:13:12 AM »
Better than my first bot. And welcome, enjoy your stay, follow the rules and have fun when it comes to RA2 here.

Be aware you will get critism/tips/praise everytime you post a bot. Also Anyone with a coloured name with give you good advice.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 01:36:48 AM »
Quite nice for a first bot, i see you've been lurking.

Change the pinks to a nifty and try and maybe get an axle/snapper in there to enhance the motor speed if you want.
You can downgrade the wheels to shinies if you need weight.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2011, 05:45:25 AM »
For a first bot, that's actually pretty good. You've got a good choice of motors and weapon components there, and it looks to me as though you might have DSA (Double Strength Aluminium) on it as well, and eFFe glitched the weapons on. Very nice that you know these glitches already. However, there are a couple you can do to improve it.

Pink Batteries are almost universally never used outside of the Antweight and Beetleweight classes. For this, you ideally want a Nifty Battery. It gives you 50% more power than three pinks, but is only two-thirds of the weight. You'd need a slightly taller chassis for that (three "clicks" of the chassis height slider), but it would provide much better longevity for the weight.

Shiny Hubs are almost always the best wheel choice you can have, due to their supreme lightness compared to other wheels. This would give you an extra 12kg to play with, for things like extra weaponry or defenses, which I would say this bot needs. Maybe something like a plow on the front to protect that exposed HPZ motor.

Another way to protect the HPZ - by mounting it inside the chassis - would be to try something called Snapper Loading. It's one of the trickier glitches to get right, but it saves a huge amount of weight from a larger chassis and heavy extender setups. You need something called the SnapperII Burst Motor (It's in the SZ+ AI Components download if you don't have it), and Sage has a video on it in the Tutorials board (RA2: Tips and Tricks). ty4er suggested an Axle Mount, but that causes something called the Axle Glith of Death, or AGOD, where the position and collision mesh of the components is messed up, plus the robot tends to be quite unstable. There's no way around it, unfortunately, so I'd try to avoid that as much as possible.

tl;dr - You've got some good potential. Take on people's advice, lurk around to see what works, learn some more of the glitches, and you'll be building great bots in no time. =)
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2011, 05:53:38 AM »
For a first bot, that's actually pretty good. You've got a good choice of motors and weapon components there, and it looks to me as though you might have DSA (Double Strength Aluminium) on it as well, and eFFe glitched the weapons on. Very nice that you know these glitches already. However, there are a couple you can do to improve it.

Pink Batteries are almost universally never used outside of the Antweight and Beetleweight classes. For this, you ideally want a Nifty Battery. It gives you 50% more power than three pinks, but is only two-thirds of the weight. You'd need a slightly taller chassis for that (three "clicks" of the chassis height slider), but it would provide much better longevity for the weight.

Shiny Hubs are almost always the best wheel choice you can have, due to their supreme lightness compared to other wheels. This would give you an extra 12kg to play with, for things like extra weaponry or defenses, which I would say this bot needs. Maybe something like a plow on the front to protect that exposed HPZ motor.

Another way to protect the HPZ - by mounting it inside the chassis - would be to try something called Snapper Loading. It's one of the trickier glitches to get right, but it saves a huge amount of weight from a larger chassis and heavy extender setups. You need something called the SnapperII Burst Motor (It's in the SZ+ AI Components download if you don't have it), and Sage has a video on it in the Tutorials board (RA2: Tips and Tricks). ty4er suggested an Axle Mount, but that causes something called the Axle Glith of Death, or AGOD, where the position and collision mesh of the components is messed up, plus the robot tends to be quite unstable. There's no way around it, unfortunately, so I'd try to avoid that as much as possible.

tl;dr - You've got some good potential. Take on people's advice, lurk around to see what works, learn some more of the glitches, and you'll be building great bots in no time. =)

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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2011, 06:03:10 AM »
Also, be sure to listen to the guys with their name in coloured text, like NFX above, and not me  :gawe:.

Then by all means if he shouldn't listen to you, he shouldn't listen to the colored-name users, since you told him not to listen to you.

Anyways, you can save 2 kg by removing a black extender and attaching your HPZ directly to your baseplate anchor.

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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2011, 06:03:59 AM »
Also, be sure to listen to the guys with their name in coloured text, like NFX above, and not me  :gawe: .

Then by all means if he shouldn't listen to you, he shouldn't listen to the colored-name users, since you told him not to listen to you.

Anyways, you can save 2 kg by removing a multiextender and attaching your HPZ directly to your baseplate anchor.
He means black extender.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2011, 06:06:41 AM »
Errr... yes i do :P

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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2011, 06:07:27 AM »
Also, be sure to listen to the guys with their name in coloured text, like NFX above, and not me  :gawe:.

Then by all means if he shouldn't listen to you, he shouldn't listen to the colored-name users, since you told him not to listen to you.

Anyways, you can save 2 kg by removing a black extender and attaching your HPZ directly to your baseplate anchor.

Curse my bad logic.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2011, 06:13:26 AM »
Also, be sure to listen to the guys with their name in coloured text, like NFX above, and not me  :gawe: .

Then by all means if he shouldn't listen to you, he shouldn't listen to the colored-name users, since you told him not to listen to you.

Oh, well spotted, Mr. Pedantic. =P
 
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2011, 08:34:43 AM »
3 pink batteries isn't a lot for 2RADs and a HPZ...
And possibly think about using maces instead of irons.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2011, 08:54:59 AM »
Mr. AS, ty4er already said that. Read the thread first.

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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2011, 09:14:45 AM »
Maces aren't always better than irons, they're usually used because of their funky mesh which protects the extenders more iirc

But you can always try to see which is better for yourself.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2011, 09:24:54 AM »
I could give my generic LW HS advise of : 1WD ftw!
But that's not appropriate.
Can you EFFE/snapperload?
If so you could mount the weapon on a snapper and EFFE on maces instead of Irons (Mainly a matter of preference between these weapons)
Definitely switch to shiny wheels and a nifty.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2011, 09:28:55 AM »
Here's the second one

-DSA armor
-Now it can't drive upside down
-The razor is there because I had some weight leftover.
-The weapon is kind of unstable
Tell me what you think about it!  :mrgreen:

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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2011, 09:34:05 AM »
Attach the HPZ to the other attach point of the snapper (black square) with it raised and rotated 180 degrees. I'd then make the front of the chassis bigger to put a couple of large raised casters on (Invincible armour) instead of the extender+Razor tip.
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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2011, 09:39:30 AM »
Ok thanks for the tips   :bigsmile:
I rebuild it later today.

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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2011, 12:24:36 PM »
For a new guy, hes actually not bad.
Taco, were you lurking GTM before you joined?

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Re: Taco's Stock Showcase
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2011, 01:07:12 PM »
Well, I was more busy than I thought and that's why this isn't already posted blah blah blah.....
Anyways, version 3!

That's the best I can do with the caster armor for this bot
Maces because I don't need double extenders which saves me weight :D
HPZ is a little more stable and protected (Thanks Squirrel_Monkey)
I changed the direction the chassis is facing too.
And J, just a little.