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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: moonbear on April 21, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
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As instructed, I will be only posting my bots in here from now on, haha. Here is what I believe to be the final version of my popup, Serious Cat.
Here it is from the outside.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/s3geq1.jpg)
Here are the guts.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/sl7jhx.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/23w9p1v.jpg)
It's tighter than my previous 2 designs, has 3 black batteries, 4 razors per arm hidden in the chassis for a total of 16. 4 hp ztecs which i got as close together as I could using axle loading, 4 DDTs, DSA armor, 2 burst mounted small wedges, for a total weight of 799. The whole thing at 6 pixles high. This is my 3rd popup.
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turn the razors on sideways.
golden rule of RA2: build the chassis around the components, not the opposite. So, with a round chassis you cant do that.
looking pretty good though. i love hs too.
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If you can, download the hidden Stock AI parts. They include the Snapper II, which is ideal for overlapping.
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turn the razors on sideways.
golden rule of RA2: build the chassis around the components, not the opposite. So, with a round chassis you cant do that.
looking pretty good though. i love hs too.
Yeah, I know. I'll have to get over the circular design, but i love the way it looks. Thats why I rebuilt deadlights as ICXC NIKA. Tried to make it as small as I could. Thanks.
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If you can, download the hidden Stock AI parts. They include the Snapper II, which is ideal for overlapping.
I may, however I really have a thing for sticking to just pure stock components...
edit, sorry for the double post.
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The are pure stock components, as they are used on the stock AI bots. If you look at other showcases, you can see they are used very often.
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Oh, ok. Well thanks for the heads up.
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No problem. :)
EDIT: 1000 posts!
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Congrats.
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Yay.
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:approve:
Good job, Jak.
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I remember fighting Deadlights online.
and as Sage said, plan before you make a chassis. Make a chassis that will fit your components perfectly, not a random chassis and fill it up.
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I remember fighting Deadlights online.
and as Sage said, plan before you make a chassis. Make a chassis that will fit your components perfectly, not a random chassis and fill it up.
Actually, I believe you fought Indrid Cold which is Deadlights but with razors. You turned me onto maces, thanks for that. Think it was you claimed you wanted to test my bot and then used SHW Alligator haha. Yeah, I know. Thats kinda what I was going for with ICXC NIKA. I made quite a few chassies before I got one that was much smaller but could still fit all of my desired components in. Had to remake it 3 times. At this point, I consider Deadlights pretty much retired.
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Well I decided to try Sage's advice of build another kind of bot besides a HS. I believe this is called a "popup." I'm going to work on building a tighter, larger version of this bot with 4 hpz's and maybe more DDT's within a few days. This is my first popup. No name yet. Tell me what you guys think.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/wi69vk.jpg)
And here is a clear view of my weapon setup at its "end" position.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/ddlt84.jpg)
It has 8 razor tips on 4 DDt's. I know there is some empty space, I'll deal with that soon. Damage is about 800 to 2000 points per hit on stock bots, no Starcore yet since I had to reinstall today, but at least it can beat Emergency haha. My biggest issue is how underweight it is... I put on all that I thought would be useful, and even a bit extra, but there just isnt enough room, hence the upcoming larger remake. Armor is DSA. Power is 2 stacked black batteries.
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Ooh. The razor setup reminded me of I Will Get Shredded. As far as I know, HW Popups usually have 4 HPZ drive instead of 2, and the wedges don't work well if they're only attached to baseplates. Put them on Snappers and they'll go under more bots.
And ummm... remove that rear plate. It won't do much. :D
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The razors should probably be on straight arms, but you might be on to something here. You should also try experimenting with the curved ones and see how they work.
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The razors are on straight arms on my newest popup at the start of this thread. Thank you.
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It's looking very good. I'd flip your snappers upside-down, because I find they work better that way.
And you post your new bots later in the topic, not editing the first post.
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Not too bad, still i'm unsure about the weapon setup.
Also HW popups suck with 2WD, and the rear ramplate is worthless.
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Naryar, that is my 1st popup, my newest/ 3rd one is edited into my 1st post at the begining of this thread. For some reason I thought that was a good idea.. Wrong. I'll post more pics for this far back in the thread later I suppose.
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Naryar, that is my 1st popup, my newest/ 3rd one is edited into my 1st post at the begining of this thread. For some reason I thought that was a good idea.. Wrong. I'll post more pics for this far back in the thread later I suppose.
you reply to your own showcase when you make a new robot, have a look at other showcases.
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The one in the first post looks very good. Your getting better. Can you post some battleshots.
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How do I take battleshots? For the sake of simplicity, here are 2 pics of my bot from the start of this thread.
From the outside.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2wo9jma.jpg)
And the guts.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/21nha3c.jpg)
This is my 3rd popup. 4 razors per arm. 4 hpztek drive. 4 DDTs. 3 black batts. burst mounted small wedges. DSA. Highest hit I've got so far (it was on a stock AI) was 3500. Don't know if thats good or not. 6 pixles tall. 799.3 kg. Thank God for axle loading.
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Press F11.
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Hope one of those blacks is stacked.
You also have your wedges on the bad way to BTW.
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as i said before, you can make a smaller splash pic instead of posting more then one large pic. make a new bmp then go cut and paste parts from the screenshots of the robot.
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YAY. it looks good. Those green snapper wedges are eating up a ton of weight (6 pixels high when it could be 5, huge empty space)
ALSO- put the snappers upside down so the axle is near the ground. This will give you more extender weight and make your wedges a bit better IMO.
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Ok, will do, and yes, one of the batts is stacked inside another.
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Oh yea. Well I'm about to start remaking Serious cat. But I have a question. If I delete one of my front ram plates, and its baseplate anchor, and layed my snappers down so I could decrease chassis height, and lose 4 kg in extender weight.............. I could have enough weight for a 4th black battery. So tell me... Is losing one of my front ram plates worth a 4th black battery? Or should i keep it as 2 ramplates and 3 black batts?
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That's a really fine bot for somebody that hasn't been around that long. BTW, I would keep the ramplates and go with 3 blacks.
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YAY. it looks good. Those green snapper wedges are eating up a ton of weight (6 pixels high when it could be 5, huge empty space)
ALSO- put the snappers upside down so the axle is near the ground. This will give you more extender weight and make your wedges a bit better IMO.
I thought for a snapper to fit without lying on its side the chassis had to be 6 pixles tall... And I turned them upside down. Youre right, much better wedges now. Thanks.
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I thought for a snapper to fit without lying on its side the chassis had to be 6 pixles tall... And I turned them upside down. Youre right, much better wedges now. Thanks.
like, if you didnt have them, then the chassis would only have to be 5 pixels high. look how i put them on in some of my bots.
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Well, building a juggler happened to be next on my list of high ADC bots. I'm too tired to make a splash now, so deal, haha. I must say, I'm very happy with the way this one came out, with the exception of one minor detail... See if you can tell what that detail is in the pic hah.
From the outside.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/wcj049.jpg)
Here are the guts.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/24o3c3t.jpg)
And here are the guts with the disks removed for a better view.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/zpnyo.jpg)
Name is Fiddle. 4 hp zteks for drive, axle loaded to get them super close together. 2 black batts stacked together. 2 burst loaded hp zteks mounted directly on the burst motor, no extender needed, thanks to Tankcat for walking me through how to do that glitch. DSA armor, 8 razor tips per disk, total weight of 736........ And yes. Thats right. I forgot to leave room for a baseplate anchor to mount a snowplow on, for the top of my bot... Still works great though mind you, just have to work a bit harder to keep under them. (I even had enough weight for it...) Very tight chassis, took me quite a few trys to get it just right. What do you guys think?
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I think that if you moved the control board out into one of the stick out parts (just move the wedge out of the way), you will have space for a baseplate anchor to add a plow.
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Nice.
You could also get DDTs for making the first ever decent self rightable juggler i've seen...
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I don't know much about Stock Jugglers, but do gaps between the wedge and ram plate have much of an effect?
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I don't know much about Stock Jugglers, but do gaps between the wedge and ram plate have much of an effect?
I made sure the ramplates wouldnt get in the way, as you can see.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/ae47ps.jpg)
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Was you around all of these years or something? It's amazing you're building at this level if you only started playing last month.
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I got this game about 2 years ago, had no idea what to do, used Walrus with steel armor to fight stock AI, never played online... and forgot about the game for like a year and 11 monthes till about a month 1/2 ago. So yeah, I've been really trying for a month or so now. Beetlebros site REALLLLYYYY helped me get going. I gotta keep going till I get that wiki page for some reason haha.
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Compete in some tournaments?
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Not yet, so far I only have stock heavyweights. And I missed my chance a few weeks back for BBeans. Ill enter next chance I get. Maybe I should try some other weight classes.
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If you got fancy with the extenders you could mount a snow plow on each wedge's extender, and maneuver it so they stick up at the back. wouldn't be too hard cause you have the weight.
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Thanks sage, thats what I did, only I used razors instead of a plow.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/30hn9yr.jpg)
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yay, looks good.
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Problem: In theory, when you drive forward, the mass of those blades will want to move back, therefore lifting your wedges off the ground ever so slightly (but ever so slightly can make a big difference, as I've seen on several bots before.) I've noticed that it's generally not a good idea to put a lot of extra stuff on the same burst motors as your wedges, unless you can stabilize them in the back so they don't lift off the ground. Perhaps try putting some short extenders touching the ground underneath those blades.
However I'm making a big deal out of a relatively minor problem. That's a great bot. So is Serious Cat; you're a very fast learner.
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Ah i see, hmm. Ill try to figure something out. Thanks man. EDIT-- I just beat SHW Alligator with my popup Serious Cat. Destroyed in less than 25 secs. I dont know if thats a feat or not, but in the past, that thing has been to me what Emergency is to a lot of newbies.