Author Topic: Pwnator's Stock Showcase (Read 186968 times)

Pwnator · « **Reply #320 on:** December 15, 2009, 11:06:59 PM »

I just recycled ReaXioN's chassis and tweaked some points, so it does have some space somewhere in the front. The wedges are as good as NWB's. But then...

O_O

Hmmm...

:O

Anyway, anything that can't reach below its own chassis (sans HS) is dead when Helix gets under it. But my goal now is for it to be able to withstand the beating from tumbling VSes. Oh well, back to studying for now. :D

JoeBlo · « **Reply #321 on:** December 15, 2009, 11:09:23 PM »

why is that bot so magical ?

something tells me if it only met wedged robots in BBEANS it could have won :P

TriTon · « **Reply #322 on:** December 15, 2009, 11:33:38 PM »

I believe some BFE could have been done, but i'm most likely wrong.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #323 on:** December 15, 2009, 11:48:42 PM »

I dont think it is possible to BFE a robot to make its chassis wedge good

Naryar · « **Reply #324 on:** December 16, 2009, 04:39:19 AM »

ItI's success is partly because of the arena. PitA 8 kicks ITI's ass every single time in the combat arena...

TriTon · « **Reply #325 on:** December 16, 2009, 07:25:20 AM »

Then ItI won by just pure luck...

DuckRA2 · « **Reply #326 on:** December 16, 2009, 08:32:35 PM »

no. Itl is a very good bot and you should know that!

Trovaner · « **Reply #327 on:** December 16, 2009, 09:27:57 PM »

I believe the success of ITI is related to the fact that the BBEANS floor uses the same floor as the Infinity Arena. Plane01 is flatter than any other type of GMF object (such as the one used for the floor of the Combat Arena) while being completely transparent, low lag, and built-in.

The smoothness of the floor allows wedges to work better with a smaller margin of inconsistencies that would have been caused by the arena itself. For some reason, the chassis usually vibrates more on standard GMF objects (thats why when you use an empty chassis inside of the test arena, it still moves after falling to the floor). Of course, this is all just speculation.

Madiaba · « **Reply #328 on:** December 16, 2009, 11:37:15 PM »

I've noticed the same, Trov. The beta Dragstrip arena of CB's had several aspects incomplete, so I took a geomobject and made it a floor,... and it was very rough(not flat). So rough that fast bots would not stay straight on it. I was surprised to learn that of a simple 8-vertice, 'cubed' geomobject.

Naryar · « **Reply #329 on:** December 17, 2009, 03:04:45 AM »

Yes, i've noticed that Stock-style wedges wobble more in the test arena than in the combat arena.

So ItI won because of that ...That has to be the gheyest winning streak ever.

System32 · « **Reply #330 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:24:31 AM »

...So what you are saying is that ItI was acidentally built for this arena!

LOL.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #331 on:** December 17, 2009, 09:35:51 AM »

in theroy Plane01 could be added to just about every arena making chassis wedges much more effective ? DSL 3 anyone ? :P

System32 · « **Reply #332 on:** December 18, 2009, 01:18:00 PM »

No, Naryar would just exploit it with his REALISTIC* DSL BOTS.

*SARCASTIC

Somebody · « **Reply #333 on:** December 20, 2009, 09:26:42 AM »

I just remembered what Alterer of Reality did before BBEANS 5.
It was to some page about unbeaten bots or something on the wiki, and he had added Insult to Injury V, and someone just deleted it with the little note: noob.
Little did we all know...

Pwnator · « **Reply #334 on:** December 20, 2009, 10:21:59 AM »

^^^ Hmm.. must've missed that part. XD

Oh well, after two days of tweaking, I found out that Z-Teks make the whole bot wobble no matter how carefully tuned the wedges are. So just swapped them back to birds and changed the weapon setup. So here's Helix 2:

Shrank the chassis, and the weapon motors are more protected. Wedges still remain wedgy (might be even wedgier than the first one) and now has a fighting chance against HSes. :D

System32 · « **Reply #335 on:** December 20, 2009, 10:24:48 AM »

So you haven't tested against the old one?

*Sigh*

I always make multiple copies.

Naryar · « **Reply #336 on:** December 20, 2009, 10:29:04 AM »

:O

It would look even cooler with a bit of red on the skin.

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #337 on:** December 20, 2009, 10:29:25 AM »

Pwnator · « **Reply #338 on:** December 20, 2009, 10:29:34 AM »

@ S32 - I did, but for some reason both left wedges go under both chassis, making me unable to determine which one is wedgier. I just test it against other bots and check the ratios.

Clickbeetle · « **Reply #339 on:** December 23, 2009, 09:55:44 PM »

Quote from: Pwnator on December 13, 2009, 07:15:25 AM

Heavily inspired by FB's Red Tide IV (the one in BBEANS4 is VI, which has only one drum. IV has two drums - the bottom drum spins up and the top one spins down), this bot is meant to be a quick killer.

Actually, both of Red Tide IV's drums spin up. Your bot is more like my MW Allomancer. But still very different. Very good job making such a cool original bot in stock. I can't think of any way you could improve it.

This business with the plane in the BBEANS arena bears looking into. Could there be a way to defeat the "bot is only as good as its wedge" rule for DSL3?