Author Topic: NC's stock showcase (Read 37150 times)

ty4er · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2011, 02:11:12 PM »

Quote from: nightcracker on June 11, 2011, 12:19:59 PM

I doubt it, often you will lose not one, but two wheels at a time or right after eachother. Without drivetrain a popup is virtually worthless.

But I'll experiment with it.

And without a chassis, every bot is useless.
You may be able to drive it with up+down to make it go sidewards and rotate so it goes head-on if possible.
But i suggest using a t-chassis as the bot is more protected from the side (in my mind it is :P) and it seems that your wheels are too far apart to drive (no idea why, blame RA2 physics) and it will weigh less. Plus change the plow for something else (as many others have already said).

nightcracker · « **Reply #21 on:** June 15, 2011, 02:38:54 PM »

Alright, iNCinerator v2! (paint job still pending)

Featuring:
No more AGOD! Yay!
Weapons: 14 razors on two DDT's
Wedges: I guess OK
Defense: 6 ramplates + 2 60cm blades
Drivetrain: 4WD and drives straight (well, 95%, backwards is horrible)
Power: 2 Big Volt's

FOTEPX · « **Reply #22 on:** June 15, 2011, 03:45:23 PM »

Awesome, if any HW Popup is awesome now-un-days.

NFX · « **Reply #23 on:** June 15, 2011, 03:47:20 PM »

Looks excellent. =] Might be a touch underpowered, but you've used the weight well.

nightcracker · « **Reply #24 on:** June 15, 2011, 04:11:45 PM »

Underpowered, how so?

And would sacrificing 2 razor tips for 80cm wedges + 60cm razors be worth it?

NFX · « **Reply #25 on:** June 15, 2011, 04:14:59 PM »

60cm Blades. People might get confused, normally razors means Razor Tips.

And 4HPZ's and 2DDT's draw between 850 and 1200 Power, a Blackvolt supplies 400, so you'd preferably need 3 to have max power. You can get by with only 2, but your hits will get significantly weaker as the match goes on, so you'd best make sure you can end the match quick.

nightcracker · « **Reply #26 on:** June 15, 2011, 04:41:00 PM »

Let me try and stack in that third black.

Skiitzzox220 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 15, 2011, 04:44:05 PM »

There's just something I love about HW Popups, probably because they're something I can't build. Only think I can think of is what's already been said which is to try and get a third black in there

nightcracker · « **Reply #28 on:** June 15, 2011, 04:51:33 PM »

=S I can't get them to stack, I've tried every possibility with my pixel perfect tool. Am I doing something wrong? (Yes, I am fully zoomed using the overview/chassis zoom trick).

NFX · « **Reply #29 on:** June 15, 2011, 04:53:55 PM »

Try rotating the top down view through 180 degrees. That usually helps. And they sometimes won't stack if the chassis is absolutely pixel perfect. So in this case, your helpful tool is more of a hindrance. =] Oh, the irony.

nightcracker · « **Reply #30 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:09:28 PM »

How useful are blades on the extenders of the wedges? Do they really help a lot? They can easily take up 20-24kg.

EDIT: Another question, is the samurai blade considered "stock" and "legal"?

NFX · « **Reply #31 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:22:34 PM »

Samurai blades are AI Parts. Normally AI Parts are allowed, but it's not the best choice of weapons you have.

Blades on the wedges do help prevent the vulnerable and weak extenders from coming off when fighting a particularly low HS.

nightcracker · « **Reply #32 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:54:29 PM »

I think I'm going to do a chassis revamp, a bit like neglected waterbug-style.

nightcracker · « **Reply #33 on:** June 16, 2011, 02:49:28 PM »

@NFX, The samurai blade is a pretty light tall component with 1000HP. How can I ask for more?

iNCineration 3!

Featuring:
No AGOD!
Weapons: 13 razors on two DDT's (yes I know, uneven amount ugh)
Wedges: Bye bye Neglected Waterbug!
Defense: 5 ramplates and hollow chassis
Drivetrain: 4WD and drives straight forward, backwards is horrible
Power: 3 Big Volt's
Special feature: Sword preventing bots going over mine (sort of)

NFX · « **Reply #34 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:00:30 PM »

That's a pretty good use for the Samurai Sword. They work like that, and they also work as stabilisers for some VS, but not that well as weapons in Stock. Perhaps the ramplate on top is a little bit unnecessary, perhaps you could get an even amount of razors on with them.

Vertigo · « **Reply #35 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:01:22 PM »

Not half bad

nightcracker · « **Reply #36 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:03:31 PM »

@NFX: I tried without the ramplate on top before and some vertical spinners were like omnomnomnom even when I am under them.
@Vertigo: Any tips?

NFX · « **Reply #37 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:15:12 PM »

You could try moving the blades a bit further forward, and a bit further apart, so as not to have it "sticking out" as much.

nightcracker · « **Reply #38 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:16:46 PM »

Sorry, what blades?

NFX · « **Reply #39 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:19:00 PM »

Samurai blades. R4's ears were Blades, that's what I'm thinking of.