Author Topic: Naryar's Stock Stuff (Read 102430 times)

Naryar · « **Reply #80 on:** May 01, 2008, 08:10:50 PM »

It's a MW. I'm not much of the LW builder.

The ram is overpowered but the popup must be a little undrpowered...

Venko · « **Reply #81 on:** May 02, 2008, 07:21:36 AM »

I know my lesson CUDA... be cool

Dont listen to him Naryar, keep this black battery,if you want to drive and use 3 brusts at the same time this need power...
I know i promise not to post here pics but view this pic:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/35447try_this.JPG
Instead of critic i made this bot to show you how to optimize bot body.
My version is lot lighter than yours and have lot axes on it.If you make the chasis like this you will have more weight to put things... Dont waste weight!!!
Dont piss off,i'm just tring to help,in this way bot is good but see how to optimize chasis...
Go on MSN sometime...
:-)

Naryar · « **Reply #82 on:** May 02, 2008, 07:36:06 AM »

This is a hammer not a popup like mine. Nice tight chassis, but weapon arm is too long. BTW don't use hammers with wedge bodies, the combo sucks. Because if your opponent goes up the wedge front, he'll be close to the hammer so it will not make a lot of damage. Hammers need a certain distance to swing for their weapon to gain kinetic energy.

And for the last time... MAKE YOUR OWN SHOWCASE! Not to offense you, not at all, but nobody here post their bots in another one's showcase. It's easier if each of us has a showcase and post their bots there and only there. And not only their "top elite bots" but also their classic bots. And of course a unfinished bot the user wants to have feedback on it. as last popup.

Venko · « **Reply #83 on:** May 02, 2008, 09:55:29 AM »

Sorry but i prefer to make this pic to show you 'cos i cant EXPLAIN my ideas with my poor ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dont look whole my bot...He is too lame, i count it for show drawing not to bot...
I just was want to show you my idea for how you must build body of Omen of chaos to save weight...
JUST LOOK THE CHASIS DAMN IT, Why you want opinions and when you gets them you are mad at me.I JUST PREFER TO DRAW THAN TO WRITE IN DAMN ENGLISH...
Make his body like this and put on him what weapons you want but in this case you will have more weight for destruction... (i'm not tellin you what you to do, just this is good wish...)
And IF we are on same team how to contact with you and show you pics when you dont go online in DAMN MSN... So why i post that sh** here!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be continued...

Naryar · « **Reply #84 on:** May 02, 2008, 11:28:08 AM »

Are you kidding me? You gained weight for the weapon compared to me and may have a stronger weapon than my bot, yeah, but these wheels are BEGGING to be hit by a ram or a HS, the last striking at one of your sides, making you bot turning 90° forcefully, so the sides face the HS, and he has just to go forward to mash one of your wheels. Without mentioning the Havok if you knock off the ztek.

This external wheel design is decent if you have a large front of weapons (as your LW rammer) but not here, with a tight front chassis. I mean, why do some of Starcore 3's rams have their wheels inside the chassis?

Oh, then, I suppose it's just two points of view. Big chassis and heavier, or small chassis and more fragile...

Venko · « **Reply #85 on:** May 02, 2008, 12:17:33 PM »

OK
I will never comment your bots anymore, its your bots make them as you wish...

Naryar · « **Reply #86 on:** May 02, 2008, 12:29:19 PM »

Actually I wanted you guys to comment about the frontal defense, not the wheels. You know I dont like too much external components (especially motors)

Cooker · « **Reply #87 on:** May 03, 2008, 03:50:02 AM »

Sorry for the wrong statement in my last post. I was actually not on the last page when I wrote a comment on this LW that does in fact carry a Black battery.

The ramplate is ok, exept the fact, that it is slightly offset to the centerline.
If you want to improve something else in this bot, I would suggest to connect the drives on the same snapper as the wedge is. In doing so, you can place them in the battery and therefor your chassis can be shorter and lighter.

Naryar · « **Reply #88 on:** May 03, 2008, 04:48:37 AM »

Good idea, and this involves a shortest bot. I'll see what i can do. But I wonder if I can still self-right with that design ??

Cooker · « **Reply #89 on:** May 03, 2008, 05:51:55 AM »

I didn't think about the self-righting, but I guess it should still work.

Naryar · « **Reply #90 on:** May 04, 2008, 08:30:08 AM »

A lightweight that time. I'm not used to lightweights, but this one's quite good. Especially good versus unarmored bots. Some kind of tricky against horizontal spinners, then opponent often ends alive, but with one wheel missing and damaged. And DS with no more weapons...

Dark Sun V3

Type: LW, Trinity Glitch SitnSpinner
Weight: 241.0
Drive: Twin HP Ztek drive on shiny hubs
Power: 2 pink batts
Weapon: Twin thwacking pistons with 2 iron spikes on each
Armor: DSA

+ Superior reach (when firing the pistons)
+ Good speed (when not spinning of course)
+ Very good damage for a LW (could sometimes go up to 2500)(when firing the pistons)
+ Extensive deflecting ability (same)

- Vulnerable weapons
- Big mobility problem: generally, when spinning after have fired the pistons, it cannot stop spinning and stays there. So it is REALLY a sit&spinner ... But it doesn't lose by immobility because he moves very slowly and randomly.

Cooker · « **Reply #91 on:** May 04, 2008, 09:14:19 AM »

This is the problem with the trinity glitch, the bot goes out of control. Therefor it can not be used for AI bots.

The power supply by two pink batts seems to be a bit lean, since Clickbeetle recommands one black batt for two HP-ztecs.

Naryar · « **Reply #92 on:** May 04, 2008, 09:26:25 AM »

Hm. Clickbeetle said you can have twice the imput as output if you use only spin motors. Seriously, I was thinking like you before, one black batt for 2 HP Zteks, but look at some bots like Scrap Daddy's 8-HP Ztek drive ram (doomed lumberjack) which uses only 2 black batts. Theorically I'd need a nifty for this one, but this would involve a rebuild. And a difficult one.
But i found it fine. The motors work nice and the battery output doesn't decreases that fast.

For the Trinity Glitch... actually, AIing this one would mean a special binding file , but i think a flying bot AI (starcore 3) would be enough. (not sure on that one)... just the sit and spinner with one more command "when spinning, fire weapon"

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #93 on:** May 04, 2008, 09:40:14 AM »

2 pinks or a nifty would be fine for this robot. You could use bigger pistons too. They weigh the same.

Cooker · « **Reply #94 on:** May 04, 2008, 09:46:00 AM »

It depends how long your bot has to spin around, to kill the other bot in a combat. If this goes closed to 3 minutes, the two pinks will have a hard time. There are actually many bots that cannot stand 3 minutes of hard fighting. But I have to admitt, most of the fights in the tournaments end within the first minute. When they go longer than one minute, it's often because both of the bots have lost most of their weapons and wheels. Moving a little bit back and forth, just to offend beeing counted of, does not require a lot energy.:grin:

Naryar · « **Reply #95 on:** May 05, 2008, 07:25:25 AM »

I just remade my beetleweight vertical spinner. It is still not finished.

Ember V4

It is powered by 2 stacked small batts.

I could not add another razor on the VS because if done, it would touche the ground. And besides it does higher damage, i think...

Naryar · « **Reply #96 on:** May 07, 2008, 05:26:18 PM »

New bot. Certainly the most effective of my heavies. Two-hit-killed Little Darling, one hit killed Leprosy

Decent against Neglected Waterbug

Pain In The Arse

Type: HW popup
Weight: 733.6
Power: 2 black batts
Drive: 4WD, GrannyGuards on bursted HP Zteks
Weapons:A total of 6 razors, 3 on each weapon arm powered by DDTs
(Flipper not used)

(This is more a prototype than a refined version, because I wanted to try it badly so I built it quickly)

+ Good speed
+ Good front defense
+ Nice damage (although less than some SCv3 popups like 3-2-1-Blastoff!)

- Vulnerable wheels
- Bursted drive train makes him tricky to drive
- Chassis too high
- Still weight to use

That's all. I'll made second version soon, and with a... retarded skin...

Naryar · « **Reply #97 on:** May 09, 2008, 07:45:32 PM »

I expected some feedback.. but nevermind.

Anyways, heres an offspring of my first hammer bot. Sorry for the reskins but my DSL and Starcore (stock) versions of RA2 lags to death. There's a mess with the Teams folder on Starcore version... but it'll be easy to fix that.

Cult of Violence V12

Due to the previous issues i never faced a Starcore bot with this one. He barely got under Emergency's wedges.

Power: 2 stacked blacks
Drive: 2 grannyguards on snapperII-bursted HPZs
Armor: DSA
Weapons:
- 2x Vertical hammer, each four iron spikes on a DDT
- 2x Side hammer, each a double bladed katana on a snapper2 (yes, i know, it is a little slow)
- Some spike strips which are really secondary weapons

Some ideas from you guys?

70 CUDA · « **Reply #98 on:** May 09, 2008, 08:21:10 PM »

i like it. as i just started making hammers i dont see any thing worn with it. but your right on the feed back it has been a little low lately. as for AIind a project trinity bot i have done it. its in my RAM AI pack for noobs. if you want it i can PM just the bot and or the binding line its most effective in the eletric arena and the hill top arena. i will build a DSL ver with better spin up nad post it in my show case along with its bindings.

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #99 on:** May 09, 2008, 09:04:16 PM »

Well, on the popup, it would be nice to see what all the snappers are for. I know you have weapons, wedges, wheels etc. on them, but I'd like to see how you attached them all.

On your hammer, make sure you align the wedges. Right now, one appears either higher or further ahead of the other. Also, as cool as the Katanas are, I find them inefficient. Perhaps swap them for irons or something.

Also, to save weight, get rid of that front U cutout in your chassis. Think of it like this: every face you add to your chassis is like adding extra armour plating. The more faces you have, the more armour plates, and therefore, the more unessesary weight you have.

If you can, move the wheels closer to the middle of the bot, not hanging out the back. This should tighten up the turning, and improve stability when turning too.

It's nice to see though some hammers finally being built :D