Author Topic: Naryar's Stock Stuff (Read 101517 times)

Naryar · « **on:** March 09, 2008, 12:29:30 PM »

Tribute To Mayhem

My most succesful bot in RA stock, could take on and destroy 2 emergency's without getting flipped, but I think it could be better. Not that bad against some DSL bots, but usually gets his weapon ripped and finally destroyed.

Name: Tribute to Mayhem V2
Type: HW, Hybrid Vertical Spinner/ Flipper
Weight: 736.1
Armor: DSA
Weapons: Two tribars powered by HP zteks , fitted with iron spikes
Flipper (4 small wedges powered by 4 Snapper2)
Two spike strips, only use: avoid getting stuck on it's side
Batteries: 4 black batts
Drive: 2 N12 wheels powered by HP Zteks

+ Good damage
+ Good armor (not difficult heh...)
+ Awesome flipper
+ Wedge front, Emergency can't get under
+ Great tossing ability

+/- Decent speed

- Good only when facing the enemy (rear and sides unarmed and prone to get flipped)
- Could be more compact
- A little more power than needed

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2008, 12:34:38 PM »

Not that bad actually. You need more weapons rather than just 6. Thats going to get rippped off quickly if you start to play Starcore robots.

Naryar · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2008, 12:43:22 PM »

You have a point here. I just had this problem when facing DSL bots. All of my spikes getting ripped.

But just how can I put more weapons? Double extenders at the ends of the tribar perhaps, but I fear the game will block me because too much components on one baseplate.

And I tried other weapons, maces and razortips actually, but I definitely favor iron spikes.

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2008, 12:45:52 PM »

Dsl bots vs stock bots are very unfair fights. he Dsl components are way stronger than the stock ones. I would get rid of the flippers and make it a pure vs.

Naryar · « **Reply #4 on:** March 09, 2008, 12:55:35 PM »

Actually the flippers help me A LOT for getting under bots like Emergency.

I know about the unfair fights, but I destroyed Critical Emergency, Minion and Second Sentinel (got under him right on) with this one, and Shogun & Cranky Spanky would be too if my iron spikes stayed on the tribar. But most of the time I got owned by the DSL bots.

Naryar · « **Reply #5 on:** March 09, 2008, 01:26:58 PM »

Grip of Violence

My first hammer bot, upgraded this one a lot to finally give that. Chassis unchanged since first version.

Less successful than the first, could possibly win vs all stock AI, but it's not easy against some bots like Raptor or Wide Load. One time this one ravaged Emergency in 25 seconds, but he usually gets flipped wildly...

Name: Grip of Violence V4
Type: HW, Hybrid Hammer / Flipper
Weight: 723, 8
Armor: DSA
Weapons: Two hammers, 4 iron spikes each, powered by DDT's
Two flippers, powered by Snapper2's
One spike strip for not getting stuck on it's rear
Batteries: 2 black batts, 2 nifty
Drive: 2 N12 wheels powered by Zteks, 2 rubbers wheels powered by right angles (these one are not used for steering)

+ Really good damage
+ Fast
+ Good armor (again)
+ U-shaped bot to block something between the two front wheels (e.g. Coal Miner's drill or one of Deadbeat's wheels), getting a good grip at the other bot while the hammers do the job.
+ Gets stuck on it's back harder than Grog or Deadbeat
+ Compact (had fun with placing compoments the right way)

-/+ Flippers not always successful. Sometimes the bots go on top of the bot, blocking the hammers. Sometimes it just flips the enemy over, perfect traget for the hammers then.

- Vulnerable weapon shafts. Break off easily
- Still unstable, when turning too fast it just got stuck on it's rear before I put the spike strip. Now it's ok but it still lose a LOT of grip
- Vulnerable wheels
- Slightly underpowered (would need a couple of small bats for full effectiveness)

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 09, 2008, 03:10:35 PM »

Again try to stick to one type of robot. Dont try to make a hammer flipper bot try and make a regular hammer bot or a flipper. Try not to use N-12s. They use a lot of weight and arent any better than any other wheel. Shiny hubs and granny guard wheels are usually best. Dont mix motors like z teks and RADs. 2 hp ztek drive is plenty. You could even upgrade to 4 wheel drive if you want. Fork lift things suck so dont use them. If you want your robot to get under other bots better get a snapper with a wedge on it. Probobly not underpowered at all. I would suggest learning how to stack batteries. On this bot you should add another black batt and get rid of the niftys. Do you knwo about double strength alluyminum? When making a robot dont even go into the armor tabs. The armor teh game gives you at the time of first making the chassis is as light as aluminum but a bit stronger than steel. Good jobs on the tight chassis. Whenever making a robot try and get the chassis as small as possible.

Naryar · « **Reply #7 on:** March 09, 2008, 04:21:03 PM »

Believe me I struggled at least one hour to put 3 black batts in that design. On the original bot I put 4 (way too much), but it was 2WD, 2 hp ztek drive as you said, and I sacrificed two to put the spike (essential for not getting stuck on it's rear) and the two right angles.

Not to mention this bot has actually double strength aluminium armor (DSA for short) and four-wheel-drive was essential for decent drive. That bot just could not go in a straight line with 2WD. And I just can't stack batteries in stock RA2 (DSL is another thing, way easier) . Clickbeetle's component statistics made it clear, it is slightly underpowered.

Nevertheless I'll try another pure hammer version.

Naryar · « **Reply #8 on:** March 14, 2008, 06:11:35 PM »

Micro Oblivion

Pretty good lightweight, my better actually (I'm no good LW builder). Does pretty well against the majority of Starcore 1.0 LW's.

I was bored of seeing tribars and razor tips everywhere (and I don't like the visual, blue is not my favorite color), so I forgot the first weapon system (tribar and 6 razor tips), and tried the disc with 4 razor spikes... Disc came off pretty fast, and not really good-looking. Finally I came with a sort of bar spinner.

Name: Micro Oblivion V4
Type: LW, Horizontal Spinner
Weight: 244,1
Armor: DSA
Weapons: 4 iron spikes mounted on black extenders, powered by a Snapper2-enhanced Ztek (useful as a srimech)
Battery: One Supervolt
Drive: Two shiny hub wheels powered by right angles. One caster.

+ Good damage for a LW
+ Good speed for a spinner, and better control than expected
+ Low weapon mount, flippers are less dangerous
+ Lighter than a tribar with the same weaponry (and faster)

+/- Self-rights most of the time, sometimes gets stuck on his side and must try again (or spin the weapon)
+/- Weapon toughness is so so.

- Weak armor (is it me or small chassis with DSA are weaker than big ones with the same armor?) and lower defence than a tribar spinner.
-Low "range" (i.e. must get closer to the other bot, and so take more risks, to attack)

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2008, 08:18:33 PM »

What kind of AI are you fighting? Regular stock? BTW Im pretty sure you can change the color of the tribar.

Naryar · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:13:20 AM »

Regular stock sucks. My HW's generally win VS all stock bots (record, killing Coal Miner in 8 seconds with an early design of GoV) . Never tried with my LW... will have a try.

Actually I began Starcore a few days ago. Wasn't brave enough to run into Starcore 3 so I tried Starcore 1.

My bots could generally win against these AI bots. (Excepted the Borg which are monsters)

RA2lover · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:44:15 AM »

no monsters, just complex spinners. they are quite hard to stop, but i can 1-Hit KO them with stock

Naryar · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2008, 06:34:50 PM »

Grip of Violence V9 Anti Horizontal Spinner

Last edition on the bot I'd worked hours on, my first hammer and most accomplished bot. Chassis changed, wheels changed, but not that different. And all my hate to horizontal spinners (BTW the lightweight one quite sucks) has slowly soaked that bot, making him... a nemesis to them.

Name: Grip of Violence V9 AHS
Type: HW, Hammer (Vertical & Horizontal)
Weight: 797.6
Armor: DSA
Weapons: Two heavy vertical hammers, 4 iron spikes each powered by DDT's
Two light horizontal hammers, 1 spike strip each powered by Snapperé's
Iron spikes to protect the wheels and rear spike strips to stabilize

Batteries: 3 Supervolts, 2 stacked (rear case)
Drive: Two GrannyGuards powered by HP Zteks

+ Good damage
+ Good front armor
+ Protected wheels
+ Particularly damaging versus horizontal spinners (stops them with plate armored front, then hammers to destroy at least the discs, then the chassis... the Borg Queen is now a piece of cake to this one, and he fights better than I expected vs the Starcore 3 Heavyweight HS, completely omwning some in the process)

- A little slow (but surprisingly controllable for a 2WD)
- Exposed rear
- Wheel-rippers often come off pretty fast
- Quite weak VS vertical snippers

(Copyright Scrap Daddy for the heightened hammer motors. Handy because your weapons don't come off as easily)

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 23, 2008, 03:47:38 PM »

Hmm....Im not convinced it could beat a heavily stacked spinner. Try it against Vortex CE and show a picture. The chassis also looks too high. For HP Zteks you only need 5 pixels up from the bottom and that should be all you need. Also get Starcore 3. You will learn how to make better bots because just to beat one bot you push yourself to make an amazing robot. Thus learning new things.

Naryar · « **Reply #14 on:** March 23, 2008, 04:21:57 PM »

Vortex CE, heh?

A little difficult to immobilize btw, but I don't used the horizontal hammers (forgot about them!). And as you see I'm using Starcore 3 actually.

For the chassis height, I needed it for the stacked rear batteries.

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 23, 2008, 06:03:58 PM »

You only need 2 pixels for a blakc batt with a control board ontop.

But I must say ive been proven wrong. The robot obviously fights better than I thoughtand just out of curiousity try Chop Sticks.

Naryar · « **Reply #16 on:** March 23, 2008, 07:39:16 PM »

Tried... Thought I would get bashed (happens often against vertical spinners)

Quite an epic fight there. My two hammers stopped working one minute after the beggining, deeply dug into his Ztek weapon motors ( DDT motors damaged I guess, but I don't see any smoke for the armed one), that's why I lost (and by points). But he was more damaged (controller board in the red) than me and unarmed (I could still barely thwack with my hammer head).

Nice havok explosions BTW.

Naryar · « **Reply #17 on:** March 29, 2008, 09:41:05 AM »

Omen of Chaos V5

First good middleweight, at least ! And first popup.

This was originally a spiked flipper, quite good flipping ability but low damage. I turned it into a popup, then upgraded that popup one time. And there's the result! Worked on the skin too, just discovered the Export Chassis Paint and had fun with it.

Name: Omen of Chaos V5
Type: MW, popup
Weight: 397.7
Armor: DSA
Weapons: Two popups, 2 iron spikes each powered by Snapper2's
Batteries: 2 stacked Supervolts
Drive: Two Shiny Hubs powered by HP Zteks

+ Good damage for a MW
+ Good speed and steering
+ Good stability and control
+ Extensive throwing ability
+ Front wheel protection
+ Front wedge that gets quite easily under the enemy

- Cannot self-right nor move when upside down
- Weak VS horizontal spinners
- Can only land a hit when enemy is on the wedge body (cannot be used as short range hammer)

sergeim · « **Reply #18 on:** March 29, 2008, 05:46:39 PM »

that is a lot of stuff you have there good job

Scrap Daddy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 29, 2008, 06:12:29 PM »

make the chassis lower. 5 pixels are enough for hp z teks. Not bad though.