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[Naryar]

i made a version with less exposed motors. anything can be improved. and the definition of perfect can be changed. do you mean "hardest to beat" or "best built/compact" or "coolest looking"?

and is something beatable if it hasnt been beaten?

I think its hardest to beat there, but for me it is the three together.

Very good question sage... we have to make a philosophics topic on this one.

[Naryar]

Guys, I just made the third version of my (first) LW poker.



Here it is, it is a little fragile (well its a LW) but I can consider it now as an hybrid rammer/poker. The wheel setup is about stacking 2 anchors, facing in two opposite directions, and putting the motors on these, and one extender, because the chassis won't let me stack the anchors side to side.

He mades quite good damage and is fast, but the CO2/power supply is a little frail.

This was the second version.



A little more weapons, same power (2 stacked pinks), but the redbirds and wheels were lower and, big problem, it wasn't invertible. The piston was also shorter than in V3.

I have noticed a thing but Im not sure about this... Do different sizes of burst pistons consume different amounts of CO2? I have the impression that the longer the piston, the more CO2 is uses with each shot.

[Madiaba]

Some possible suggestions:
I can't see some angles on your bot well, but can't you just raise the anchors up a little to position the wheels in mid-chassis, and make it invertible?  You may have to adjust your weapons for inversion operation.

Could your chassis also be lowered a bit, or is the height as low as possible for the co2/burstpiston pair clearance?  
Is there enough room to off-set your piston/co2 set so that they're not over top one another. If it's following the protocol of 'realism' (except batts), it's still ok to 'stack' collision meshes, just not display meshes.

You perhaps could get rid of the T-connector and attach the black extenders right to your piston, and it would help center your weapons if the burstpiston is off center.

As for the stock burst pistons, the txt's puzzling air consumption specs are listed below:
Shortest: airmaxinoutrate = -100
Short:     airmaxinoutrate = -300
Med:       airmaxinoutrate = -200
Long:      airmaxinoutrate = -100

[Venko]

No, i tested it and diferent sizes consume the same amaunt of CO2...
And this chassis is too big for LW bot... Try to safe some weight from him to stack another CO2 tank in this one...Try stacked vertical pinks or piston to be outside of body...

[Madiaba]

Venko, I was merely reporting the 'set' txt parameters that the computer reads to actually calculate consumption.  No matter what you or I might say,... It is what it is.

[70 CUDA]

he shoots ....... HE SCORES!!!!!!!lol, thanks mad i wondered but kept forgetting to look that up. as for the bots im not great at LWs but it seems that you have a little to much room in both of them.

[Venko]

To Mad or to 70 Cuda : ...

If you carefully see the time of this my post :

"No, i tested it and diferent sizes consume the same amaunt of CO2...
And this chassis is too big for LW bot... Try to safe some weight from him to stack another CO2 tank in this one...Try stacked vertical pinks or piston to be outside of body..."

you two will see its only 8 mins after Mads post, so before you think i say it to Mad did you think first that maybe situation was like this? :

'Today 02:48 PM'... i was read Naryars post...And go in game to test shortest and biggest only pistons with one CO2 to see is this true, after that i switch to my mozzila without click refresh and post this in 'Today 03:00 PM' ...
And after this i see the Mad was allready made a post 8 mins before me... And everyone now think i say my post to Mad but is not true, this "NO" was for Naryar ok?
So i think this : You say i challenge Mad with this "NO" 'cos your mind CUDA want this variant more that variant of misunderstanding... You just want me to be like this, ah? And your mind start to interpret my words like your mind want to... This is sub consciousness hatred to me maybe?...



But lets quit this...

So... shortest and longest pistons have the same needs for CO2? But middles even more? This dont make sense and its strange and funny...

[Naryar]

Ahem.

Venko... This is off topic.

[Sage]

there should be no reason you can't put both baseplate anchors on without an extender on one. it would free up 2kgs. and also, can you raise the baseplates to make the bot invertible, like mad said?

[Naryar]

He is actually; I showed the second version last, and the third first. So the first is invertible, and better as you can guess.

[Somebody]

...but I can consider it now as an hybrid rammer/poker

With the spikes on the sides of the arm on the piston, it could also probably work as a sit-and-spinner

[Naryar]

It can sit and spin, but the motors aren't powerful enough to make him spin rapidly and especially activate the Trinity glitch. It generally sucks at it. But with HP Ztek drive, it could make a decent SnS.

Here is a real one. Some of you guys may have encountered it.



It has a total of 14 iron spikes (the 2 extra spikes that you can see at the front are a hazardous attempt to give him some rammer feats).

The point of the battery overpowering is that he is always moving and the fights generally last long, more than one minute generally, and i dont want him to fell short of energy.
 
But the flaws are some weight lost, notably in the tri-extender and snapper department. Ah, and he drives like crap (he has no caster support)

The control board is in the corner near the snapper.

And the continuation of the LW disc VS



In his own weight class he isn't doing as well as his little brother.

Big flaw: he gets very easily upside down. But the weaponry is sufficient to kill two Emergency's in 40s.

[Venko]

OK about first one :
Cool body spiner but...
But you can make his chasis a lot smaller...
And for iron spikes...
Do you know that is posible to stack simple anchor with spike in other anchor with spike?
This mean you can make the bot looks like with one spike on each side... But actually they will be few in one...i think its posible to do more than 5 in one...
With this sugestions you can gain some extra weight and use it as you wish...
Next bot :
Its a good MW VS...
You can smaller this bot a lot...
if you still want his big chasis then just put brusts II more close to each other, stack the motherboard into black to small his high. You can also put drive ztecks only on 20 cm extenders on theyr side attach point... This will put wheels inside of bot... With all geined weight do what you want
But if you want you can smaller the chasis A LOT...
I mean you can stack the two bursts II in one with theyr current position of rotating... Puting extender on them will be not easy but its posible... And with prevus advices too you will gain a lot more weight...

THANKS for listening...

[Naryar]

OK about first one :
Cool body spiner but...
But you can make his chasis a lot smaller...(Yeah. Know that)
And for iron spikes...
Do you know that is posible to stack simple anchor with spike in other anchor with spike?
This mean you can make the bot looks like with one spike on each side... But actually they will be few in one...i think its posible to do more than 5 in one...
With this sugestions you can gain some extra weight and use it as you wish...
(Too dangerous. It makes for a more vulnerable chassis if I reduce the "spike wall" heigth, like on Jupiter)
Next bot :
Its a good MW VS...
You can smaller this bot a lot...
if you still want his big chasis then just put brusts II more close to each other(Yeah. Agreed.), stack the motherboard into black to small his high(I do doubt I can stack like that). You can also put drive ztecks only on 20 cm extenders on theyr side attach point... This will put wheels inside of bot...(This has a serious flaw. If i put the wheels too close to each other, this makes for a seriously slower turning speed and then an enemy bot can flank me) With all geined weight do what you want
But if you want you can smaller the chasis A LOT...
I mean you can stack the two bursts II(This is possible, but I doubt I can do that) in one with theyr current position of rotating... Puting extender on them will be not easy but its posible... (I haven't your stacking skills) And with prevus advices too you will gain a lot more weight...

THANKS for listening...

There.

[Venko]

I know you have dignity and dont want i to edit your bots so...
Why dont call me sometime when you have time in MSN and i will teach you to stack like me...
Its not very hard and i still believe i can tell you some tricks for mega easy stacking that really will help you to stack good...
I will be glad to help...
THANKS...

[Naryar]

Ok.

I just had my second try with antweights, that's it a vertical spinner.

Well here is Scratch! :



Plastic armor. 124,1 kg.

No, he's not overpowered. The output is very low after 3 minutes... not what I expected for a nifty powering three right angles.

It's more for making an antweight vertical spinner... because he is mediocre against S3's antweights.

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Any more comments on the two middleweights before?

[Flying_Chao]

On the first middleweight, can't you replace the T-Connectors with normal extenders?

[Flashcrazed]

i thought of a good idea before but i was dumb to think it would work...
i thought by putting alot more control boards would give it more lives -.- im so dumb
and i dont pay much attention to if i win or lose,i just like seeing cool bots =]

[Naryar]

First FC => i thought of it but it seems that it won't.

Second FC => i had this idea too, and i dunno why the game lets you put 2 CB's on one bot.

but what's the point of posting this in my showcase?

OK i cant blame you. because i dont want Venko to rule the showcases here.

[Naryar]

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