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Title: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 28, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
Hello everyone i am Mystic2000 and i am a RA2 player since 2-3 weeks i gonna show you my bots i have already built and the news ones i gonna create in this showcase i am french so my english is not so good i hope i will be not hated by some members due to some building failures (i suck at building compared to what pros can done)
(http://urpix.fr/files/ojvcz532iksj5d9vc86j.png)
 Here is Disc of doom he proved effective only against stock AI but flippers are his worst nightmare (scrimech not works good) and is having zero chassis protection, one of my first ever bots
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on October 28, 2012, 06:35:38 PM
Can you make your picture bigger, we can't tell what is in your robot really.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 28, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Better now ?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 28, 2012, 06:57:24 PM
dont worry about your bots being "failiures" when you start a showcase. we'll guide you from making bots like this:


to stuff like this:
if i can improve like that, surely you will be able to in given time

on the bot: you would really focus all of your weaponry to the front, 99% of bots are not ai'd to attack your rear, and the one ai file that does make it so it attacks  your rear doesnt work iirc. that said if you just make your bot invertable instead of having a srimech you could have more weapons and thus be able to do more damage

more stuff can be found here http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 28, 2012, 07:03:17 PM
Thank you for the invertibility tip i'm gonna do a 2.0 version of disc of doom and this is gonna be nasty >=)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: G.K. on October 28, 2012, 07:08:36 PM
Hi mate! Always good to see new people making showcases.

From the off, there are plenty of things I can see you can do to improve your bots significantly. People will no doubt link you to a load of stuff but I think it best if we take things bit by bit. So here's a few pointers to work from.

1 - Build to the weight limit. You may find it hard to use up all 800kg, especially at first, but you should endeavor to. But not just with anything you can throw on it. One of the most important things when building a horizontal spinner if having more weapons than your opponent. In your bot, there is the best part of 200kg free that you could use for more weapons. Use that extra weight to make your bot more powerful.

2 - Build the chassis around the components. What it seems you've done is made a standard cuboid chassis and thought 'what can I put in this chassis?'. Now you know what you are trying to include on your bot, design a chassis which those components will fit in but has as little extra space as possible. What this does is reduces useless weight usage, as a bigger chassis weighs more, allowing you to invest in weapons, armour, drive or anything really.

3 - Have all your weapons in one direction. As Mr Awesomesauce said, it is rare that you will be attacked from anything but your front, as long as it is your front that is pointing at the opponent. As such, you should be focusing on having your weapons all facing forwards as well. Either lose that face spinner on the redbird or make it face forward.

This is only the tip of the iceberg of the tips we can give, but once you grasp these we can move onto more.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Fracture on October 28, 2012, 08:49:53 PM
Use red or black 20 cm extenders to attach more than just four weapons on a disc. You can also save weight by using Iron Spikes instead of Sledgehammers (same damage) and Shiny Hub wheels instead of Fatboys (all wheels are the same except for size and weight).

We actually have a moderator on this forum from France, Naryar (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3028). If you need any translating or explanation you two can figure something out through PM.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 29, 2012, 02:14:25 AM
Fracture i'm always scared of my oponnent ripping off the extender,  and the wheels i used are mud tires, not fatboys but i gonna change for rubber ones
EDIT: Here is the new Disc of doom
(http://urpix.fr/files/9yl7dskpm1ipegstz885.png)
YES i am seriously underweight but i concentrate myself on important things such as remove empty space, make the robot invertible and remove the useless face spinner at the back 
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on October 29, 2012, 04:08:35 AM
Hey man ! It's good to see another french here.

Your bot isn't too bad for a starter, but you'll have to improve.

You don't get hated for having bad bots : that's what most newbies have. What you do get hated for, however, is being annoying, obnoxious, not listening to advice, or being arrogant when you have no building skill. So just listen to advice and you'll get by fine.

You might want to read these tutorials : http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 29, 2012, 04:45:35 AM
thank you i gonna post my popup after some work on it
EDIT: here it is my popup Hell Raiser
(http://urpix.fr/files/4n2vrvgmnastkgpnfxn0.png)
he defeats someof the Starcore bots, but his protectionless wedge is a problem
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: G.K. on October 29, 2012, 04:48:53 AM
That's good learning!

You will no doubt wish to bring your bot up to the weight limit now. Before I say do this, or do that, we should find out what you want from this bot.

Do you want a bots with loads of weapons on several discs? Do you want it to have a wedge? When you get up to 800kg, what else would you like to see on it?

If you want to work on the popup as well, then that's cool.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 04:19:28 AM
Any comments for my popup ?
Otherwise here is my rupt flipper: Dead rupter
(http://urpix.fr/files/f45c9593imwv6m94f52.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on October 30, 2012, 04:24:32 AM
You don't really need a srimech for rupters.

Use smaller wheels. all Stock wheels are the same apart from size and weight.

Build so your chassis is the smallest possible while still encompassing all the components.

Get your flippers outside the chassis so you may have a chance to get under other wedges.

Build to weight limit : 249.0, 399.0 or 799.0.

Otherwise it's pretty ok.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 04:57:15 AM
Using your tips Naryar i made Dead rupter 2
(http://urpix.fr/files/ifpx9xm1w796bmfuqf98.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Avalanche on October 30, 2012, 05:06:34 AM
Im not sure but i think thats overpowered.Also naryar for once is wrong on the srimech.Make sure you have a non rupting srimech so you can selfright properly, as otherwise its screwed if flipped over.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on October 30, 2012, 05:32:33 AM
Quote from: Avalanche on October 30, 2012, 05:06:34 AM
Im not sure but i think thats overpowered.Also naryar for once is wrong on the srimech.Make sure you have a non rupting srimech so you can selfright properly, as otherwise its screwed if flipped over.

Yes it is overpowered, and yes you can selfright with your rupters. You just need to do it right.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 08:32:02 AM
Here is my first Rammer, Beast From Darkness:
(http://urpix.fr/files/epsg24an32fvidt4ckbw.png)
heres an insides view
(http://urpix.fr/files/vo41px7c0mci9mbvvxsz.png)
and 1 thing is sure about this bot: IT HURTS
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on October 30, 2012, 08:41:47 AM
You've got the right idea for connecting weapons on extenders like that, but round ones can save weight for more weapons. Right now, you have a lot of weight left anyway.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
i used the square one for easily get the side connection points at the right way
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jack Daniels on October 30, 2012, 09:22:31 AM
It also helps if you make the chassis as low as possible so that it can drive while upside down (i.e. Invertible) If that bot gets flipped, it's done. 

An efficient bot (of that design) has a low enough chassis where those shiny wheels can touch the ground either way.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on October 30, 2012, 10:48:58 AM
You've got the right idea here, but you can still make the chassis a bit smaller.

also use round extenders. They may be harder to use than square ones, they're more than half the weight for the same overall stats and they make you save a lot of weight.

Remember this: Weight Saved + building to weight limit = More stuff on your bot ; more stuff on the bot + correct placement of components = good bot.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 11:37:19 AM
I am back on HS designs and here is one who really sucks
Final Destiny:
(http://urpix.fr/files/cqvee4y0zg4gjzwr9fsd.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on October 30, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
1 Black battery is fine for this. Also smaller chassis gives you ability to add even more weapons.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 30, 2012, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: Jonzu95 on October 30, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
1 nifty battery is fine for this.
well said jonzu!
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on October 30, 2012, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on October 30, 2012, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: Jonzu95 on October 30, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
1 nifty battery is fine for this.
well said jonzu!
1 Nifty for 3 HP Z-Teks is just bad. 2 Z-teks is fine though.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 30, 2012, 12:24:13 PM
Quote from: Jonzu95 on October 30, 2012, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on October 30, 2012, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: Jonzu95 on October 30, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
1 nifty battery is fine for this.
well said jonzu!
1 Nifty for 3 HP Z-Teks is just bad. 2 Z-teks is fine though.
umm from my experience 1 nifty is just enough for 2 rads and hpz, each hpz holding 90+ kg of weapons, so logically this guy can use 3 hpz with the weapon motor holding 30 kg of weapons.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
Hey guys here is my new creation, a FS/side hammer hybrid: Wipeout
(http://urpix.fr/files/bw3uh3lsdmw1x1tlujg.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Badger on October 30, 2012, 01:03:39 PM
Minimise empty space. This chassis can be lower
Use Shinies (or rubbers on a popup)
Instead of angle connections, use the side attachment on the normal extender
Use a series of extenders instead of one long one. (e.g. -20--20--20- instead of ---60---)
Crop your photos (Use Paint.net (http://getpaint.net))
Try to improve a bot and posts the results before you move on to another bot

Very well done on building to the weight limit, though. ;)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: ianh05 on October 30, 2012, 01:16:37 PM
A trick for finding the sides on the round extenders is by looking at the face and rotating it around until the flat side that connects objects is where you want it. It's much easier looking directly at the face of the extender and judging where the connection point will be.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on October 30, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
there's pretty much no point in having the sidehammers if they're only going to have one weapon on each of them. the face spinner could probably be downgraded to a rad motor to allow more weapons on the sidehammers.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 01:48:53 PM
Thanks ianh05 i'm gonna try this
Here is wipeout 2
(http://urpix.fr/files/km5ss6wejsk7tgeqm3y.png)
i removed the side hammers: too easily broked off
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on October 30, 2012, 02:59:16 PM
Much better, with the remaining weight you will probably want to add a wedge so it has a chance against wedged bots.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 04:54:18 PM
Don't knowing what to do i built a BW bot that attempt to use the chicken drill glitch
(http://urpix.fr/files/5vjt6ys18hhl0lhlgqv5.png)
Here is Death Driller
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 30, 2012, 05:09:20 PM
lots of empty space in the front
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: ianh05 on October 30, 2012, 05:30:03 PM
build your chassis around the components by following these steps:

1. Make a basic chassis then put your components in.
2. Look at free space in the chassis and rebuild the chassis.
3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 until you get an airtight chassis.

You can eventually get a good feel for how much space the components take up and when that happens you hardly need to rebuild.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 06:01:13 PM
Hello guys here is another HS named Spinny Smashup
(http://urpix.fr/files/9yhno3g0i1j383xre.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Natef on October 30, 2012, 06:02:06 PM
Car steering isn't a good idea.

Does it even run?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 30, 2012, 06:04:21 PM
yes it runs
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jack Daniels on October 30, 2012, 07:32:55 PM
Heh, car steering is really inefficient.  Your previous set-ups with HPZ teks and regular ones are usually the way to go.

Car steering is sooooo heavy, its just not worth it.  In fact, there is little to nothing good to say about that particular part.

I like the weapon setup though!  You are improving. :D
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: J on October 30, 2012, 11:26:58 PM
You actually don't need 6 wheels, Mystic.
Try giving your bot HPZ drive, and see how that handles.
Should give you more weight to mess around with, in addition to the ability to reduce space.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 31, 2012, 05:54:55 AM
hecko i am back on Final Destiny for some upgrades
this time is a flail HS
(http://urpix.fr/files/6cp4ttfr96y6imf758hw.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on October 31, 2012, 06:04:47 AM
Remove the nifty, you don't need it.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Avalanche on October 31, 2012, 06:51:55 AM
Flails are really bad in stock as they go 360 degrees, so they can end up facing inward and being useless.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on October 31, 2012, 06:55:09 AM
don't worry they works but are vulnerable
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on October 31, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
remove the black, and flails are really unsuited for a bot like this, they are mostly used on hs with discs and sns (click made a flail vs at one point but it didnt really take off)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on October 31, 2012, 02:05:53 PM
You need to trim your chassis a lot, you need more weapons.

Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 01, 2012, 05:10:20 PM
Hello guys despite starting my DSL showcase i haven't forget my stock one
here is a simple antweight rammer: Bam
(http://urpix.fr/files/qf99p482vhhrgcc508vf.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 01, 2012, 05:33:57 PM
Remove 1 battery, smaller chassis, add more weapons, use double strength alu if you're not already.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on November 01, 2012, 05:51:52 PM
You can try stacking 2 pink batteries together.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on November 01, 2012, 05:56:03 PM
my suggestion is to put the pink batterys behind the rads (and get rid of one), and the baseplate anchor/cb below the rads, should save some chassis kg to use on weaponry
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 04, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
hecko guys i'm back with a pusher/hammer hybrid: Noob crusher
(http://urpix.fr/files/432riu9c2cgr3vlvgk.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 04, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
use 2 razors instead of this, and angle your hammer.

otherwise it's not bad.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 05, 2012, 09:22:38 AM
Hello guys here is my flippêr/hammer hybrid: Annihilation
(http://urpix.fr/files/4wjw01zv0qeud2zy54mn.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 05, 2012, 09:48:15 AM
Stop using pinks, and add more armor.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 06, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
Hello  here is my LW twacker: Extermination
(http://urpix.fr/files/0cpb9cv0utvfqu4jdw5l.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 06, 2012, 04:59:12 AM
you don't need a black for this, just a nifty

also needs smaller chassis
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 06, 2012, 06:18:54 AM
Hello back with a chained HP z-teks: Armageddon
(http://urpix.fr/files/j65eoq400qenv4ee1lt2.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: kill343gs on November 06, 2012, 09:13:21 AM
use up all your weight; you need more weapons and more drive
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 06, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Don't be a sparkey and build to weight limit

no seriously, you are improving but listen to all the advice we give and incorporate it.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jamin on November 06, 2012, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Naryar on November 06, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Don't be a sparkey and build to weight limit

*ahem* :p

Also Mystic, you should try focusing your efforts on trying to perfect one robot, before moving on to the next.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 06, 2012, 09:51:09 AM
Quote from: Jamin on November 06, 2012, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Naryar on November 06, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Don't be a sparkey and build to weight limit

*ahem* :p

Also Mystic, you should try focusing your efforts on trying to perfect one robot, before moving on to the next.

I think your dozens of pages of underweight stock bots set a record, so i'm using the expression.

and yes. It's far better to improve and repost your former bots according to advice, else you'll end average in everything.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 20, 2012, 11:43:58 AM
Hello guys i'm finally back with a MW popup Walrus 7
(http://urpix.fr/files/0kgub9k53vj8azzeq9i6.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jamin on November 20, 2012, 11:47:23 AM
Try to get some more armor on there if you can, preferably ramplates.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 20, 2012, 12:17:40 PM
^^ yep

and it's good to see you back, i thought you left for good.

May want to use a normal round extender instead of a T extender to save 3kg though

also underweight
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 21, 2012, 01:05:43 PM
The reason i went not on the forum so long is because i'm working on a DSL AI pack
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 21, 2012, 01:57:28 PM
hecko here is what i'm planned to enter into Robot Wars Extreme 3: Atom crusher
(http://urpix.fr/files/h6absn4ih7lbf268d7hd.png)
and NO the square extender did not past through the snowplow
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on November 21, 2012, 02:40:00 PM
$5 says it ends up falling on its side
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jamin on November 21, 2012, 02:49:14 PM
that isn't really IRL
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 21, 2012, 02:58:28 PM
Do NOT use ballasts !
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Jonzu95 on November 21, 2012, 03:22:17 PM
If you enter to Robot Wars Extreme 3 with that, you need to use less razors.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 22, 2012, 06:24:42 AM
Forgot about this bot it sucks, i will enter Beast from darkness s'little brother: Soldier of darkness
(http://urpix.fr/files/6mz8otrwwuhfwtoh4od3.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 22, 2012, 06:46:12 AM
Unnecessarily big. Make a tighter chassis.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 02, 2012, 08:36:53 AM
hecko i'm finnaly back on stock with i planned to enter in RA2 Final Battleground: Razor infection
(http://urpix.fr/files/ti2cu57ukgibwwbrhult.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 02, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
Pretty good, apart from one thing : you are using too much extenders. attach directly the T-extenders holding the 20cm's to 2 baseplate anchors.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 04, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
Hello this is a challenge bot (i don't know against who) and a first attempt at building a juggler: Katastrophic Inferno
(http://urpix.fr/files/10wj230rd78fzhdvhohc.png)
393.4 kg
DSA
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 09, 2012, 06:01:29 AM
Any comments for Katastorphic Inferno ?
Anyway here is a very compact MW HS (thanks to the snapper II secret AP): Grasscutter
(http://urpix.fr/files/8em0la73s3i50vxogccq.png)
If you can't see where is the battery it's a black overlapped with the 2 HP z-teks for the spinners
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Gauche Suede on December 09, 2012, 08:55:47 AM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on December 09, 2012, 06:01:29 AM
Any comments for Katastorphic Inferno ?
Anyway here is a very compact MW HS (thanks to the snapper II secret AP): Grasscutter
(http://urpix.fr/files/8em0la73s3i50vxogccq.png)
If you can't see where is the battery it's a black overlapped with the 2 HP z-teks for the spinners
Before telling you what to do with the bot, learn2snapperload
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 09, 2012, 09:21:05 AM
You definitely need to learn how to snapper load.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 19, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
Hello Here is the uptated version of the HS you see in my battleshot against Billy Goat Gruffier: M300 Tempest
(http://urpix.fr/files/aukuh6sr2xjenqmnwhj1.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 19, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
Use shinies.

Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: J on December 20, 2012, 05:19:30 PM
Octagon chassis seems wonky for this design, IMO.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 26, 2012, 04:17:17 AM
No... you are not dreaming i'm back in Stock with a very armored hammer: Annihilation 2
(http://urpix.fr/files/s94l1h673uoh9bnz4ce.png)
I will also showcase some stock SHW's
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Linxus on December 26, 2012, 04:38:47 AM
Add moar weapons and remove most of armor, it's pretty useless if you have nothing to attack with.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on December 26, 2012, 10:34:28 AM
top and side plows can be traded for 2 plows making a V formation, should work just as well as a regular hammer

Quote from: Mystic2000 on December 26, 2012, 04:17:17 AM
No... you are not dreaming i'm back in Stock
youre right, this is obviously a nightmare
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on December 26, 2012, 11:52:46 AM
Quote from: Linxus on December 26, 2012, 04:38:47 AM
Add moar weapons and remove most of armor, it's pretty useless if you have nothing to attack with.

wrong, hammers usually don't need a bunch of weapons.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 29, 2012, 07:19:31 AM
Hello gametechmods it seems people no longer builds remakes of stock AI since Re-Stocked and packs like this
PRESENTING MY COAL MINER REBUILD
(http://urpix.fr/files/566vmaoyusma4o48bi09.png)
1 Black and 1 nifty
Snapper 2 for the wedge$
1 HP Z-tek for the top spinner
Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on December 26, 2012, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on December 26, 2012, 04:17:17 AM
No... you are not dreaming i'm back in Stock
youre right, this is obviously a nightmare
What i'm a bad enough guy for seeing me showcasing a bot is a nightmare?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 29, 2012, 08:29:46 AM
Sorry, but it's not better than the current Coal Miner.

Mostly the top spinner is useless, and 6WD seems like overdoing it. also not enough weapons overall.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on December 29, 2012, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on December 29, 2012, 07:19:31 AM
Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on December 26, 2012, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on December 26, 2012, 04:17:17 AM
No... you are not dreaming i'm back in Stock
youre right, this is obviously a nightmare
What i'm a bad enough guy for seeing me showcasing a bot is a nightmare?
its your arrogant attitude that makes this showcase "a nightmare" to look at, your improvement (or lack thereof) if p bad too

on the bot- the disc is useless, if you want to make a fs/hs hybrid so badly, you should use tribars with 3 irons on each of them, and if possible have an equal number of spinners spinning clockwise/counterclockwise
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 30, 2012, 08:17:07 AM
Hello guys here is a possible Tusslers entry: Walrus 8
(http://urpix.fr/files/0baroo07lx3u6zhg3go.png)
he has DSA
can anyone please tell me who are the best MW popups of starcore V4, this is just for fight against i see how good he is?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 30, 2012, 09:46:37 AM
seems ok

also fight them all.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on February 09, 2013, 02:25:10 PM
Time to brush off the dust of this showcase with a curved hammer: Hammer fist
(http://urpix.fr/files/mr9vb4ukd6qgu92wd8w.png)
DDT wedges
DSA
I have used 5 tricks and glitches while making this bot
first to guess wins a cookie
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on February 09, 2013, 02:37:24 PM
better, but you should curve the front in a V shape to stop HS better, and trade the grannies for rubber wheels. wedges could be wider too. 778.6 kg? hm?

good job learning how to use a snapper aswell.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on February 09, 2013, 02:38:34 PM
it needs to be wider
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on March 02, 2013, 04:33:42 AM
Hello I'm back with my Tusslers 2 entry: Walrus HW
(http://urpix.fr/files/djjrdzctjpi2wu3hf7fr.png)
Good wedges actually but they are at the same level than NWB ones
A bit of empty space i put razors on the top of the extender work that holds the battleaxes for protecting it against all the hammers around
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on March 02, 2013, 09:11:41 AM
Interesting armor setup, but not very good TBH.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on March 02, 2013, 11:22:54 AM
what are you using to upload your pics?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on March 02, 2013, 11:26:12 AM

You can axle load the HPZs so then you can attach them closer.
Quote from: Virus Bomb on March 02, 2013, 11:22:54 AM
what are you using to upload your pics?
It looks to be some french image hosting sites.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Kossokei on March 02, 2013, 11:26:37 AM
some sort of 'urpics.fr' website. A french image uploading website I'm guessing.

Use imgur/tinypic/GTM.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on March 08, 2013, 03:30:18 AM
Hello Here is my combat ants 3 entry: Buzz 3
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/75244Buzz.PNG)
2 pinks
DSA
anchor stacked in CB
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: ianh05 on March 08, 2013, 03:38:10 AM
Pretty good, you can usually always use plastic on AW's due to AW's not having much weapon power but seeing as combat ants is all about battle royal matches you made a good choice.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on March 08, 2013, 04:41:27 AM
i was thinking of making an AW with good weaponry without sacrificing armor or battery power
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 02, 2013, 09:25:10 AM
Been heck of a long time... I'm quite suprised that i didn't had the 180 days warning

Anyway, challenge bot against Mr'As:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62521Slash Of The Reaper.png)

Slash Of The Reaper

Basically me doing a stock Inside pop 2

DSA

Untested

the red exposed extender worries me a lot since it hold wedges and drive motors
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on September 02, 2013, 11:51:45 AM
why are your wedges snapper'd? having the burst for your wedge on another burst motor almost always makes them horrible. it's not like im entering a wedge anyway so it doesnt really matter.

aaand i dont think showcasing your entry is such a good idea. if i wanted to be a big A-hole right now i could send a crawler and just win 2-0, but i'll just send the robot i originally intended to.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 02, 2013, 12:09:57 PM
Fine i'll remake it just for revoming that stupidily exposed extender problems, and i have a message for you: your end is near...
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 22, 2013, 03:33:34 AM
Arise Stock... Arise from your deep sleeping... Arise i tell you

Anyways: Lemme show my ATW2 entry:

Quote from: Mystic2000 on December 19, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
Hello Here is the uptated version of the HS you see in my battleshot against Billy Goat Gruffier: M300 Tempest
(http://urpix.fr/files/aukuh6sr2xjenqmnwhj1.png)

Remember of this crappy a**hole back from my noob days ?

Well... He is back, now renamed M360 Tempest

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7409M360 Tempest.PNG)

18 HS with redbird drive, i have totally no clue if this has been done before but still

Only things that worries me is that exposed front and plastic armor  :(

Still beated Fury with it so yeah
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mr. AS on September 22, 2013, 09:04:48 AM
why do the zteks look angled?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on September 22, 2013, 12:01:32 PM
Don't use T's, just use normal extenders. Then lower the chassis. You will have enough weight then to get DSA then.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 22, 2013, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: Mr. AwesumSauce on September 22, 2013, 09:04:48 AM
why do the zteks look angled?

Optical illusion, they're not

Quote from: 090901 on September 22, 2013, 12:01:32 PM
Don't use T's, just use normal extenders. Then lower the chassis. You will have enough weight then to get DSA then.

i would like to keep it symmetrical
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on September 22, 2013, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on September 02, 2013, 09:25:10 AM
Been heck of a long time... I'm quite suprised that i didn't had the 180 days warning

Anyway, challenge bot against Mr'As:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62521Slash Of The Reaper.png)

Slash Of The Reaper

Basically me doing a stock Inside pop 2

DSA

Untested

the red exposed extender worries me a lot since it hold wedges and drive motors

Ballasts ?

I WILL KILL YOU
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 23, 2013, 12:44:35 PM
COME AT ME BRO, THE REAPER WILL SEND YOU INTO DARKNESS
you will also rage at my new popup then, cause it has 1 10 kg ballasts

oh and ballast have been proven to make better wedges, like the one that humiliated you in BBEANS 5, do you remember your defeat against this noobot, ItI V who mercilessly slaughtered your PitA 8 ?

so i would not hate that much ballasts you know...
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Davidyamy on November 01, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
hehehe they look great
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 02, 2013, 09:40:07 AM

ASAI Team Preview:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/78271ASAI team 1.png)

Needs a Team Logo

Details:

Lava Uppercut: your generic LW VS, 4 irons, DSA, 1 black
Walrus X: Another generic bot, 4 Razors, 1 black, DSA, green snappers wedges
Arrogance: HW Wammer, 1 black Blue snapper wedges, can't be assed to count how many weapons
Potion Factory: Remake of my ARBBC HW, 6 razors, DSA, 3 blacks, DDT wedges
FlipFly: Again, generic MW popup, 3 razors, 1 black, DSA blue snapper wedge
WARRIOR: Mah first 36HS, 36 Irons, 5 casters underneath, DSA, 1 black, probably needs a rebuild so yeah, might turn it into an armored 24HS
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 02, 2013, 11:17:31 AM
I like arrogance, it's cool.

Quote from: Mystic2000 on September 23, 2013, 12:44:35 PM
oh and ballast have been proven to make better wedges, like the one that humiliated you in BBEANS 5, do you remember your defeat against this noobot, ItI V who mercilessly slaughtered your PitA 8 ?

lol you take 1 example of ballasts being better than other wedges when there are 100 examples that prove the opposite and you blissfully ignore them

congrats you fail @ logic
Title: Re: Mystic2000 Stock Showcase Reborn
Post by: Mystic2000 on March 10, 2014, 10:31:34 AM
So lemme remake my worst showcase that got ruined by my newbie arrogance and let's throw this back in play with my tusslers 4 team:

Adamantium:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/42499Adamantium.PNG)

Tritioterium:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/36736Tritioterium.PNG)

Divinium:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/88854Divinium.PNG)

Ununpentium:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20982Ununpentium.PNG)

All have DSA

Ununpentium is also my Natural Selection entry
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Fracture on March 10, 2014, 12:07:19 PM
Adamantium: Looks very nice, if that's three razors and one black.
Tritioterium: I'm not a fan of rammers built off the baseplate. Rubbers also seem unnecessary. Make sure it doesn't tilt forward or the bottom weapons won't do damage.
Divinium: Could also benefit from a snapper setup. The spinners are too far forward and I don't think axes are needed.
Ununpentium: No havok? Looks really nice.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 28, 2014, 04:17:55 AM
Tentative HW for Kos's tourney, yes it cas spin correctly in the BBEANS arena

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/7911Gemaster.PNG)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on July 28, 2014, 04:38:53 AM
You can totally place your drive and ramming rack on just one snapper.
Also why are you even using pinks? Unable to get the CB stacked in the black or something?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 28, 2014, 04:54:15 AM
it's pretty messy but the design is cool
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 28, 2014, 06:27:09 AM
More can't be assed to spend ridiculous amount of time getting it, but maybe i can BFE the chassis height to be taller, so i can fit a black normally, but that may compromise his tourney legality
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 28, 2014, 07:08:36 AM
and yes wtf are you doing with all these pinks
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Naryar on July 28, 2014, 07:08:36 AM
and yes wtf are you doing with all these pinks

couldn't fit the black, couldn't be assed to rebuild the chassis taller and rebuild it all over again, and i don't wanted to spend who knows how long stacking the CB in the Black so i used pinks, that i said i could BFE chassis height, if it's legality will not be compromised
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 28, 2014, 09:22:37 AM
it's not a design who is especially long to build, just some snapper loading here and there

also maybe you can just use a single piston.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 28, 2014, 02:11:48 PM
yeah it didn't took that long, but yeah, i really hate having to redo a bot all over again for a small detail like this, and a single piston means the SNS part will not have enough weapons (thanks rule of seven), i'll just BFE the chassis for it to be taller
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 28, 2014, 02:28:49 PM
It's still sloppily built, if you want to win i would advise rebuilding it

yeah I know i hate rebuilding bots in stock but it's not like you have 4 stacks and 12 snapper loadings to do.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 28, 2014, 02:44:34 PM
if i wanted to win i would enter the HW HS/SNS that have been sitting in my lab for a month or so,  i just made it cause the T-Wrex style bot seemed a cool concept
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 31, 2014, 07:51:53 AM
Just rebuild it:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/47897Gemaster.PNG)
DSA
28 irons and 2 maces

but now AIing it is gonna be a pain, i want to make it so it SNS until all the weapons on the thwack part are gone and then switch to Shove
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on July 31, 2014, 07:58:12 AM
I still see no reason as to why you are using 2 snappers for all the drive (other than maybe turnspeed), all you need is a setup up like this (http://i.imgur.com/AeVrDrf.png)
If you want more turnspeed you can just put 20cms on the ends of the T connectors then.
Title: Re: Mystic s'stock showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on August 20, 2014, 04:03:52 AM
So yeah, time to update this showcase, with my first try for a challenge bot against KOS: The Chimera, an FS/VS hybrid

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57506Chimera.PNG)

but i'll rebuild since it has crappy wedginess and is slightly bouncy
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on August 20, 2014, 10:18:46 AM
bounciness is the maces, i think.

needs stronger VS motors.

also I think you can get rid of that caster armor and try and put the FS less far apart.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on February 12, 2015, 07:54:36 AM
Time to update this showcase again, and this time, i'm making an team for ASAI, or more like, a rebuild of some old unfinished team project for it that can be found in this noobishness-invaded wreck of a showcase, and here is one of the two MW i plan to include in this team: Walrus 11:

(http://i.imgur.com/LUGigYg.png)

i was aiming to make a popup with a really small chassis, not sure if i successed, 5 razors, DSA, 1 black, 395ish kg, rest you can pretty much see, has yet to be tested but i feel that it's gonna be slaughtered by ASAI, oh well, at least i tried
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on February 12, 2015, 04:25:55 PM
It looks very cool, but honesly is far too fragile. It's going to fail as soon as you lose one of them mower blades.

Still I like the design, it's just that I don't feel it is competitive. You can make secondary wedges out of components only in DSL. In stock, however...
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on June 23, 2015, 02:36:06 PM
near the top of page 2 huh ? i figured this thread would get deeper in the depsth of GTM, oh well, have a tenative BTTB entry:

(http://i.imgur.com/wJesfHx.png)

kinda took the easy way with the razor tip ram, may try the battleawe hammer for the lols or depending on the feedback this bot gets
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: G.K. on June 23, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
Don't know about anyone else but I can't see the picture
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on June 23, 2015, 03:49:54 PM
I don't know why you need grannies on it, as you are wasting a bunch of weight by using them.
Anyways, battleaxe hammer or bust dawg
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on June 23, 2015, 04:09:12 PM
It should be an unofficial rule that you should build the more fun of your two options.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on June 24, 2015, 01:51:47 AM
it's a bit dsl-like.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Pwnator on June 24, 2015, 01:54:11 AM
Just replace the grannies with shinies and jam the bot with more razors.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on June 24, 2015, 04:27:58 AM
pending update of Speedy 2015: have a battleaxe hammer for now:

(http://i.imgur.com/IgnIYGv.png)

DSA, 2 blacks
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on June 24, 2015, 05:11:15 AM
don't see why you are adding battleaxes/ramplates to the caster armor... is it a requirement of the bot you must rebuild ?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on June 24, 2015, 06:06:00 AM
well, not really, all i needed was battleaxes as part of the armor, but since the original had ramplates as armor i may add some, as for the battleaxes well, they're meant to protect from other hammers and any attacks aiming for the top of the bot, and plus i don't think i'd have much use for the weight otherwise, maybe eventually DDT wedges but rally that's about all i could think of
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Virus Bomb on June 24, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
replace the ramplates with inverted snowplows and bring them back a bit so they dont completely cover up the casters.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 13, 2015, 07:34:11 AM
Been giving a shot at the alternative stock buildstyle Nary has been talking about (basically standard in stock), also been wanting to prove wrong one of his claims about it

Quote from: Naryar on July 09, 2015, 08:42:39 AM
any tournament in this ruleset will be won by a wedge

ORLY ?

(http://i.imgur.com/0itkznd.png)

DAS IMPERIUM, anti wedge VS ready to take out any popup and wedged bot (expect maybe very heavily weaponed ones), as for anyone questioning how it's realistic well hollow shafts can be used to link the chassis parts together while allowing the weapon to spin, kinda like how Icewave manages to link the motor powering it's spinner with the chassis, despite the spinner being inbetween the two.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on July 13, 2015, 08:29:04 AM
Yeah people can go for Mome Rath style VS... but these are countered easily. As in, realistic HS kill this sort of design quickly.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 29, 2015, 02:29:47 PM
Done some tweaks to my BTTB bot that turned out to suck balls

(http://i.imgur.com/FLcOEC6.png)

widened the wheelbase, redid the hammer arms and added some blades to the wedges, i feel that it's less cool that it's other version, but at least it is not tipping 24/7 like a tower on a unicycle, i'm a bit concerned about the short reach tho

also contemplating making an MW version
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: G.K. on July 29, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
weight?

I'd be looking at ways to shave off a few kg's to increase your reach. For one, could you replace the emergency flippers (as nifty as they look) with something lighter? How effective are the blades turning out?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 29, 2015, 02:39:17 PM
well i just had finished it at the time i posted this so i haven't tested it in battle, just did a couple runs in the test garage to see if it gained stability, weight is 796.something
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on July 29, 2015, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: G.K. on July 29, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
I'd be looking at ways to shave off a few kg's to increase your reach. For one, could you replace the emergency flippers (as nifty as they look) with something lighter?
E wedges are 14kgs so good luck finding something lighter.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: G.K. on July 29, 2015, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: 090901 on July 29, 2015, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: G.K. on July 29, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
I'd be looking at ways to shave off a few kg's to increase your reach. For one, could you replace the emergency flippers (as nifty as they look) with something lighter?
E wedges are 14kgs so good luck finding something lighter.

Small wedges? That's an extra 40cm on each side (Though I suspect each hammer needs more than 40cm more reach)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Reier on July 29, 2015, 02:54:13 PM
noooooooooo the axes
dont listen to AS
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on July 29, 2015, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: G.K. on July 29, 2015, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: 090901 on July 29, 2015, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: G.K. on July 29, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
I'd be looking at ways to shave off a few kg's to increase your reach. For one, could you replace the emergency flippers (as nifty as they look) with something lighter?
E wedges are 14kgs so good luck finding something lighter.

Small wedges? That's an extra 40cm on each side (Though I suspect each hammer needs more than 40cm more reach)
He could just remove some casters, small wedges are too small for any type of protection and if possible he should try to get something other than E-wedges because IIRC they have crap HP.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: G.K. on July 29, 2015, 03:04:38 PM
What are the e-wedges protecting, Mystic? The DDT's?

I'm assuming you've got them in the same position as the bracket wedges on your BTTB bot?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Reier on July 29, 2015, 03:09:52 PM
dont brackets have 1000hp and E-wedges 600?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 090901 on July 29, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: Reier on July 29, 2015, 03:09:52 PM
dont brackets have 1000hp and E-wedges 600?
Yeah E-wedges have 600
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on July 29, 2015, 04:41:53 PM
Well yeah the E-wedges are meant to protect the DDT and prevent potential attacks on the top, but if they really such miserable HP then they probably will not last very long
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on August 01, 2015, 02:58:49 PM
What was i thinking when i decided to enter BOTM...

(https://gametechmods.com/TournamentFiles/botm/2015/08/5.png)

so yeah, AS had it right, it was me that entered this sh**

at first i wanted to enter a MW Bloody Massacre but i figured i'd be instant spotted, well at least it would have been better than that
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Reier on August 01, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
well its trippy at least
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on August 02, 2015, 06:39:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2zWBzZW.png)

done a couple more tweaks to my tweaked BTTB entry, removed the outer most top casters and used the weight to switch to brackets again and add 2 140 cm extenders for self-righting, rotated all the razors at the same position and extended the curved parts of the arms by 20 cm, weight is now 798.something
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on August 03, 2015, 10:54:29 AM
seems pretty good.

also using red extenders = yes
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Reier on August 03, 2015, 11:12:40 AM
hey mystic do you know what would make it way better

battle axes
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on August 03, 2015, 11:41:03 AM
jeez you sure are obsessed with battleaxes, i guess i'll put some on my next bot then
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 07, 2015, 08:09:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/LahDmT9.png)

Generic 36HS, one black, 1 Blue Snapper, DSA, 5 casters on the bottom, untested yet
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Sage on September 09, 2015, 04:07:03 AM
Thought it was average until you said 1 snapper. I'm imagining a setup using 4 20cms. Either that or 1 20cm and 3 T connectors (please tell me you didnt use T connectors)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 10, 2015, 07:12:15 AM
i did use T connectors, 2 20cm with 3 t-connecters, i could have used sideways 20cm but it would be asymetrical
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Sage on September 10, 2015, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on September 10, 2015, 07:12:15 AM
i did use T connectors, 2 20cm with 3 t-connecters, i could have used sideways 20cm but it would be asymetrical

right, so shift the snapperII to the side a bit to make up for the asymmetry. Doesn't matter though, dunno what you'd use the weight for. Might be able to get another ramplate on there if you used shinies and had better extender work.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 10, 2015, 10:46:26 AM
wouldn't be invertible with shinies, as for how to use the weight, well i could remove the ramplate and stack another black if it wasn't a giant pain in the ass, i guess i could replace the ramplate with maces or something similar to act as weapon breakers, but honestly, i don't care much about 36HSes, i only build them when i'm REALLY bored beacuse of how annoying they are to buils
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Sage on September 10, 2015, 09:03:44 PM
Oh what only 1 black? Dude you gotta learn to stack those. And you'll realize that HS are eventually the only fun thing to build BECAUSE of the challenge.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 11, 2015, 06:35:24 AM
Quote from: Sage on September 10, 2015, 09:03:44 PM
Oh what only 1 black? Dude you gotta learn to stack those.

And waste hours on it while i could build several other bots in the same timeframe, that's ridiculous
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Reier on September 11, 2015, 09:32:15 AM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on September 11, 2015, 06:35:24 AM
Quote from: Sage on September 10, 2015, 09:03:44 PM
Oh what only 1 black? Dude you gotta learn to stack those.

And waste hours on it while i could build several other bots in the same timeframe, that's ridiculous
:thumbup
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Sage on September 11, 2015, 10:34:20 AM
Waste hours? Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzPHdNNxY2I#t=142 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzPHdNNxY2I#t=142)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 11, 2015, 12:45:46 PM
you just either got really lucky or you used movepixel, i'm trying do it right now, and i'm definitevely not getting it done that fast
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Sage on September 11, 2015, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on September 11, 2015, 12:45:46 PM
you just either got really lucky or you used movepixel, i'm trying do it right now, and i'm definitevely not getting it done that fast

It does take a little bit of luck, but there's ways to make it go much faster. I didn't use move pixel.
1)Always use a top-down view. No angles. Probably doesn't matter but how I've always done it.
2)You can check pretty much every position that would work for stacking within a few seconds. If it doesn't stack, rotate the view and try again.
3)15 minutes, max.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 11, 2015, 01:06:23 PM
nvm just got it at the cost of the ramplate and 2 casters, now making a MW version
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mecha on September 11, 2015, 11:35:48 PM
It's 36HS... so yeah. it's good though.  :thumbup
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on November 26, 2015, 03:17:01 PM
So, while i was thinking about an idea for a LW design i could build really quick, i then had the idea to build a LW side Popup

(http://i.imgur.com/roVEt93.png)

Midnight, DSA, 2 razors, untested, but i know it"s probably gonna fail, but has there ever been any other LW Side popups ?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on November 26, 2015, 04:50:17 PM
eeeh, i'm not quite sure of that snapper on snapper setup. It may just **** up entirely due to glitches.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Sage on November 26, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
Actually that's a pretty cool design. I worry you won't be able to get bots all the way on top of you though
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 22, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Jn4h1mo.png)
Upside-Down poker for the lolz: System Overheat

Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Pwnator on December 23, 2015, 02:23:05 AM
To be honest, this wouldn't perform as well as it should be even if the design is right-side up simply because there are no static weapons that act as trappers. Maybe drop the grannies to shinies for that, or wouldn't it be able to flip itself otherwise?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 23, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
the pistons would actually prevent the wheels from touching the ground if i used shinies, but i'll see what i can do
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Clickbeetle on December 24, 2015, 02:53:51 PM
That design is better as a regular popup, but making it a poker is cool for the novelty of it.

See if you can space the wedges further apart, and try using 8 razors instead of 6 irons for better damage.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 29, 2015, 07:56:00 AM
i get it that you don't have much depth to work with, but exposed weapons on a design like that is very bad.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 29, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
well it was a shot with the weapons fired out, but i failed at timing so i couldn't have the pic be when the pistons were at full extent, i'll rebuild this one eventually anyway
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 29, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on December 29, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
well it was a shot with the weapons fired out,

oh lol nevermind
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on February 19, 2016, 02:44:41 PM
Been trying some designs as my entry for Back to The Roots, but i'm unsure which one to pick:

(http://i.imgur.com/vSQJ8Ij.png)

All have DSA and 1 black

Bladed Jaws: V-shaped ram, pins stuff nicely, but popups and gutrippers in general will own this thing
Chill Wind: Pretty good undercutter, not invertible and vulnerable redbirds tho
Deuterium Oxide: Nice little VS, but low weapon weight and has slight stability problems, but lifts stuff off the ground pretty good
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Gauche Suede on February 20, 2016, 01:18:38 AM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on February 19, 2016, 02:44:41 PM
Been trying some designs as my entry for Back to The Roots, but i'm unsure which one to pick:

(http://i.imgur.com/vSQJ8Ij.png)

All have DSA and 1 black

Bladed Jaws: V-shaped ram, pins stuff nicely, but popups and gutrippers in general will own this thing
Chill Wind: Pretty good undercutter, not invertible and vulnerable redbirds tho
Deuterium Oxide: Nice little VS, but low weapon weight and has slight stability problems, but lifts stuff off the ground pretty good
Can we get a bigger picture of the bots ? Right now we can barely see anything.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on February 20, 2016, 10:49:22 AM
Here's a closer look at them

Bladed Jaws:

(http://i.imgur.com/2yAcSbc.png)

Chill Wind:

(http://i.imgur.com/hoYMaVP.png)

Deterium Oxide:

(http://i.imgur.com/2oDrPUQ.png)

And a fourth one i made: Fatalism:

(http://i.imgur.com/FHC8mon.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Reier on February 20, 2016, 03:54:54 PM
i like the bottom one a lot. i'd probably try to open the arms a bit more on the rammer and get shinies on but i dont really know what the restrictions are for the tournament
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on May 16, 2016, 08:37:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/DihwOQ6.png)

So... in an attempt at working on a stock member for Trios of Terror II that isn't uber-generic ...while this forum gets torn apart by andrew s'existence again among other things, have a side popup: Firewall

DSA armor, may have to redo that side snapper setup so it gets the popup spikes into play easier
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: 09090901 on May 16, 2016, 09:06:17 AM
always try to segment your extenders in stock. all of the extenders in stock have the same hp, so it's almost always better to use multiple 20cms then one of the longer extenders.

if you dump the pink and the empty space around it you should be able to free up enough weight to get rubbers/make a shallower wedge. wedges are also a little on the short side, so extending them couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on May 16, 2016, 12:05:19 PM
at first it had 140 cm extenders for the wedges, but then said wedges were so long they'd prevent really small bots to be wedged up once they were de-wheeled, reduced to a chassis and waiting for the killing blow, also i don't get how segmenting the extenders would do anything useful since it won't infleunce the time it will take for my wedge component to be removed
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on May 16, 2016, 01:03:38 PM
The advantage is minor yes, but it's still a free advantage and takes like 2 mins.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on August 16, 2016, 04:12:06 AM
So... after getting my ass handed to me by an OP and bullsh** bot type in crapcan derby i could have been a little bitch and prepare a popup for Battle Arcade... but i refuse to give in to this stupid meta and imo people who only build and enter popups/hs are uncreative and boring people (not to mention lack of skill in some cases), so this is my entry for Battle Arcade:

(http://i.imgur.com/p43OyPH.png)

2 blacks, 795.0 kg, DSA, blue snapper wedges (yes they suck but i'm probably gonna die first round to a popup either way, VS is meant to rapidly deal damage while the side FS grinds at the wheels of the enemy
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Pwnator on August 16, 2016, 04:42:34 AM
It doesn't really matter what you build, if you're trying to stick it to the popups, you must have either annoying defenses (like HSes) or simple have better wedges. Take your time on the wedge and experiment some more if necessary. It's the harsh truth, but even good wedges are a requirement for good popup.

That aside, the blades aren't doing that much since you already have FSes for protection and the VS to flick bots away from your chassis. Ditch those and you could probably try out Snapper2 wedges, or just use some good ol' ramplates since those cover the front much better.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: R01 on August 16, 2016, 07:01:31 AM
Quote from: Mystic2000 on August 16, 2016, 04:12:06 AM
So... after getting my ass handed to me by an OP and bullsh** bot type in crapcan derby i could have been a little bitch and prepare a popup for Battle Arcade... but i refuse to give in to this stupid meta and imo people who only build and enter popups/hs are uncreative and boring people (not to mention lack of skill in some cases), so this is my entry for Battle Arcade:

(http://i.imgur.com/p43OyPH.png)

2 blacks, 795.0 kg, DSA, blue snapper wedges (yes they suck but i'm probably gonna die first round to a popup either way, VS is meant to rapidly deal damage while the side FS grinds at the wheels of the enemy
Love the blade design, gives it a Samurai like look(only nitpick would be to rotate the ones on the other side so you have \ \ / / blades. Wouldn't replace them with ram plates or anything. Also out of the 3 meta designs I think popups are the lesser evil.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on August 16, 2016, 07:33:07 AM
Quote from: Pwnator on August 16, 2016, 04:42:34 AM
It doesn't really matter what you build, if you're trying to stick it to the popups, you must have either annoying defenses (like HSes) or simple have better wedges. Take your time on the wedge and experiment some more if necessary. It's the harsh truth, but even good wedges are a requirement for good popup.

That aside, the blades aren't doing that much since you already have FSes for protection and the VS to flick bots away from your chassis. Ditch those and you could probably try out Snapper2 wedges, or just use some good ol' ramplates since those cover the front much better.

actually that VS is more for grinding at the enemy underside while rapidly draining their chassis s'health thanks the high piercing of the razors, and i'll still need something for the center, also i can't put anchors higher to add ramplates with my current setup, green snappers won't fit either cause chassis s'not tall enough, i may mount them externally  and redo the FS mounting setup
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Badger on August 16, 2016, 02:21:00 PM
Really like the look of it man, hopefully it does well.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Hi5er on August 17, 2016, 10:29:31 AM
I like it too mate, how's it been testing?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on January 27, 2019, 05:54:33 PM
*dusts off showcase*

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414228635596226585/539220241293770753/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414228635596226585/539231390563172373/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414228635596226585/539228647161200660/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414228635596226585/539231609531138059/unknown.png)
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on February 04, 2019, 02:19:26 AM
hybrids oui oui

not quite certain about hammers with chassis wedges like that though. it seems like a way to angle your opponents's weapons towards your hammer extenders
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Dreamcast on February 04, 2019, 03:22:50 PM
I second flattening the front of the second hammer. You only need enough leverage on a hammer to keep wedge from sneaking under you. Too much angle and pokers/HSs have permission to rip your hammer apart.
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on September 17, 2019, 09:34:08 AM
180 days message again lul, oh well, felt like building stock, so i built stock

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622901144246681624/623503706658439179/unknown.png)

rebuilt my old sh**ty LW from GTMCS 2, at least this one can ****ing drive, may look into finding a setup where i can make the spinner closer to the center, and point the maces down to deal with popups better

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622901144246681624/623524556304285726/unknown.png)

HW popup, 10 razors, 2 blacks, DDT wedges, tried to make a popup with a somewhat cool looking chassis shape, you tell me if i succeeded, a bit concerned over the exposed DDTs tho
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 27, 2019, 04:17:23 AM
i like that popup. LW HS seems like it can't turn as well, but I guess you can use the spin motor's torque in an emergency
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on December 27, 2019, 03:47:44 PM
the black on the lw seems like wasted weight
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Mystic2000 on December 27, 2019, 07:14:06 PM
bruh what, talk about delayed comments XD, i could probably make the LW less bad if i was assed to do so, but stock is dead, and soon will be this entire game, why should i bother ?
Title: Re: Mystic2000 crap showcase
Post by: Naryar on December 28, 2019, 01:59:32 AM
could probably try a nifty, but there's 64kg on that ztek. gotta try both designs and see if it's worth it getting a black in

also the HW's battleaxe feel like they don't protect a lot. you could try stacking them inwards so they protect the DDT's. could probably remove the inner casters as well if you do so. but if they're just here to look cool that is fine too
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