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Title: My noob showcase :D
Post by: mikemouse on April 13, 2010, 11:50:34 AM
Hello guys,

im kinda new at RA2 but i wanna learn for sure :D So, here is my first serious bot, it weighs 784 or something

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41642Untitled2.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/78283Untitled 2.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/58073Untitled.png)

how to improve it ?

Greetz
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 13, 2010, 11:52:37 AM
What armour?

Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on April 13, 2010, 11:55:11 AM
Pink batterys are not v.good for HWs.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 13, 2010, 11:56:57 AM
Pink batterys are not v.good for HWs.
Agreed, just stick to 2 blacks.
Now to mention "Normals".
(I've told him about Square extenders and armour)
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: G.K. on April 13, 2010, 11:59:46 AM
Don't use square extenders. They weigh more than round ones but are no stronger.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: mikemouse on April 13, 2010, 12:10:00 PM
this is my first revision, the bot is faster, really suprising with only this minor change

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/29085Untitled.png)

didnt alter the small batteries yet, but what do i have to do if there isnt any space for a 2nd black battery pack ?
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: cephalopod on April 13, 2010, 12:10:31 PM
To build on what these guys said, car steering is so bad it's unbelievable, use High Power ZTeks. Pole spikes have normals (only do damage at one small point) so don't use them - iron spikes are better. Not sure is the battle axes have normals but you could replace them anyway. Finally, replace the buzzard wheels with Shiny Hubs, they weigh less.

Gotta say though, I saw it and thought woooah, that's impressive. Mainly because it's big. Most builders conecentrate on 1 weapon system but this has lots and it surprised me, different to the usual 'THIS IS MAH BOT' which has like a singular spike.

EDIT: I see you've got to the wheels already :P
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: mikemouse on April 13, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
a revision, i kept using pink batts

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/458101.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/170232.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/902743.png)

he is a lot faster, amazing dude, thanks in advance

edit: ill also alter the front steering so i dont have to use the car steering anymore
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 13, 2010, 12:44:14 PM
Get rid of car steering all together.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: mikemouse on April 13, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
ok, another question, how much power do i need to power this baby ?

3 black batt packs ?
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: G.K. on April 13, 2010, 12:56:09 PM
2 I think.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: Badnik96 on April 13, 2010, 01:12:55 PM
Get rid of all these pinks, use shiny hubs or slipperbottoms, and use all HPZteks for drive. Then try to shrink the chassis and use DSA armor (strongest in stock, weakest in DSL) by not clicking the armor tab when you make your chassis.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on April 13, 2010, 02:22:43 PM
First thing I thought when I saw the bot was "That is a mean looking bot!" There is ample room to improve, but still not bad for a beginner.

I would change the following:

Motors - Car steering is terrible. Four HP Z-teks would make for a much better drive system. (If you are not sure how to program it to steer, I'm sure someone could explain it to you.)
Wheels - Shiny hubs are the best wheels. If you cant use those, use slipperbottoms as they're second best.
Armor - I'm not sure what armor you have used, but Double Strength Aluminum is the best. DSA is a "secret" armor. You can get it by completely skipping the armor tab when building your chassis.
Batteries - Small battery packs (pinks) are generally only used in a situation where you have absolutely no chassis room for anything else (i.e. LW or small MW). Use Supervolts (blacks) in HWs.
Chassis - Chassis could be made a bit smaller. Making the chassis smaller reduces your weight and gives you the ability to put more weapons on it.
Weapons - Your weapon choices aren't too bad, but pole spikes and spike strips have normals (meaning they will only do damage at the tip). Use Iron spikes, which have no normals.
Extenders - Never use square extenders. They weigh more than the round ones but have the same strength. It you have trouble rotating the round ones, here is a tip. For every nine "clicks" you rotate it, it has went 180 degrees.

Well, I think that is just about it. I hope my explanations have helped.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on April 13, 2010, 02:29:01 PM
Extenders - Never use square extenders. They weigh more than the round ones but have the same strength. It you have trouble rotating the round ones, here is a tip. For every nine "clicks" you rotate it, it has went 180 degrees.
It's actually 1 click per 10 degrees. So 9 for 90 degrees and 18 clicks for 180 degrees.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: Somebody on April 13, 2010, 02:30:56 PM
At minimum, 4 HPZs (High Powered Z-Teks) can be powered by 1 black battery. I recommend 2 though, because you also have the burst motors.
Title: My new bot: The Anti-Christ
Post by: mikemouse on April 13, 2010, 06:20:29 PM
hi fellas,

here is my 2nd bot, I think it rocks, I can now kinda easy defeat Starcore 1 bots (I guess thats kinda good for a noob like me :p), I do need to say Ive had inspiration from the Starcore mod but hey, who didnt ?

here are some pics:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57306Untitled.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19174Untitled2.png)

i dont think it can be improved very much but perhaps there is something to alter at the rotating axes (?), but if you have an idea, shoot :D

Greeetings
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: mikemouse on April 13, 2010, 06:20:58 PM
thanks everyone for the help, my bot has improved very much, and the tip about the rotating is also really good !

ive just completed another bot which is really cool, what do you think https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=3685.new#new (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=3685.new#new)

greetings
Title: Re: My new bot: The Anti-Christ
Post by: SKBT on April 13, 2010, 06:45:15 PM
Hey I don't normaly do stock so correct me if I am wrong.

Dont use different weapons on different ends of a spinner weapon. It makes it unbalanced and vibrate.
If you get rid of the two razor tips and baseplace anchors at the back you can fit another black battery there (I think).
RAD's are probably not enough for the a HW. Try to fit Ztecs and make it invertable.
As previously mentioned in your other thread try to stay away from the Pink Batteries.

Also don't create a new showcase for each bot you make. Admins dont like it and it clutters up the forum.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: kill343gs on April 13, 2010, 08:58:10 PM
Please showcase all your bots in the same thread. Next time they will simply be deleted.
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: mikemouse on April 14, 2010, 04:16:03 AM
Excuse me for making a second post, im kinda new at GTM. It wont happen again !

Thanks for the tips guys, ill make work of it
Title: Re: My noob showcase :D
Post by: Stagfish on April 14, 2010, 04:22:18 AM
dont put weapons on the back of your bot, the AI attackes the front not the back