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[Lightshock16]

Yeah, I've never found myself being very good at building bots on the game. I enjoy PLAYING The game, but I'm not exactly...practical, I suppose you could say...still, I had my first proper try at making a Simple Robot today...So I thought i'd share it with you all 

The Robot Is called 'New Blood' due to how inexperienced I am at making Bots.



Obviously IT isnt exactly the Deadliest thing ever made, However it is reasonably effective against the stock Enemy Teams, particularly the Pneumatic Spikes at causing Damage and Scoring Points. It is also invertible, so It can run either way, though the controls get reversed when it does Lol.

[Badnik96]

1.Use HPZ's and shinies or grannies, not redbirds and n12s for drive.

2. Get rid of the rear bracket wedge and piston, nobody attacks the back

3.only use one black battery.

4. use the big co2 tanks.

5. read this: http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm

[Lightshock16]

1.Use HPZ's and shinies or grannies, not redbirds and n12s for drive.

2. Get rid of the rear bracket wedge and piston, nobody attacks the back

3.only use one black battery.

4. use the big co2 tanks.

5. read this: http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2techs.htm

1. The Chassis is too low for a Z-Tek to fit in...and not low enough for the Robot to run invertible with either of thos eTires...I think...need to try.

2. The Wedge Is actually at the front LOL...maybe I'll change that.

3. Okay then.

4. Okay then :)

[R0B0SH4RK]

Since you seem to have your head in the right place, I think you'll do just fine here, so welcome :D

Just a few general tips for you before you can get really into specifics:

- Try to build to the weight limit. You're going to hear this advice a ton as it's one of the default tidbits that people who want to help but don't really know their stuff will tell you endlessly. It's not as easy as it sounds either, as cramming ballasts in dosen't really count. Usually, you're going to want to cram as many weapons on as possible since damage in RA2 works a bit differently than in real life; unlike Hypnodisc, two teeth or spikes won't break very many opponents.

- Minimize chassis space. Again, you're going to hear this A LOT. This one is just common sense. A smaller chassis is not only a smaller target, but it also gives you more weight for more useful stuff like weapons and external armour.

- There's also a very useful glitch that everybody uses. After you finish designing your chassis, do not click on the "Armour" tab. By not selecting any armour, the game automatically assigns and armour that is the same weight as aluminium but stronger than steel. We call it DSA, or double strength aluminium.

- MOAR weapons. As I said earlier, RA2 is a bit different than real life in terms of damage. Basically, more spikes = better, and razor tips, maces, and iron spikes are the best. It's worth noting that all weapons have the same HP values (except razor tips; they have 1/2 the HP but are more damaging), so there is no advantage whatsoever in using the heavy ones like sledgehammers. When in doubt, add more spikes.

Hope this helps :)

[freeziez]

Since you seem to have your head in the right place, I think you'll do just fine here, so welcome :D

Just a few general tips for you before you can get really into specifics:

- Try to build to the weight limit. You're going to hear this advice a ton as it's one of the default tidbits that people who want to help but don't really know their stuff will tell you endlessly. It's not as easy as it sounds either, as cramming ballasts in dosen't really count. Usually, you're going to want to cram as many weapons on as possible since damage in RA2 works a bit differently than in real life; unlike Hypnodisc, two teeth or spikes won't break very many opponents.

- Minimize chassis space. Again, you're going to hear this A LOT. This one is just common sense. A smaller chassis is not only a smaller target, but it also gives you more weight for more useful stuff like weapons and external armour.

- There's also a very useful glitch that everybody uses. After you finish designing your chassis, do not click on the "Armour" tab. By not selecting any armour, the game automatically assigns and armour that is the same weight as aluminium but stronger than steel. We call it DSA, or double strength aluminium.

- MOAR weapons. As I said earlier, RA2 is a bit different than real life in terms of damage. Basically, more spikes = better, and razor tips, maces, and iron spikes are the best. It's worth noting that all weapons have the same HP values (except razor tips; they have 1/2 the HP but are more damaging), so there is no advantage whatsoever in using the heavy ones like sledgehammers. When in doubt, add more spikes.

Hope this helps :)

One more thing, ALWAYS LISTEN TO THE COLORED-NAMED PEOPLE. They are the smartest. Usually.

[NFX]

Lol. But yeah, that's generally correct. 123stw knows a of a lot about DSL as well.

First of all, to get HP Z-Teks in your chassis, you need to make it five clicks high on the slider bar where you adjust the height. Shinies is more or less just a weight issue, if you want low ground clearance, use rubbers, invertibility on HS's tends to be grannies in most cases, but on the whole, only use shinies.

Again, the others have got it more or less right, shrink the chassis, utilise the full 800kgs that you have, MOAR RAZORS [said Naryar], and try to "stack" the two batteries one on top of the other. Takes a bit of trial and error, but it is doable.

Another little trick you can do, is not bother selecting an armour for it. Don't even look at the Armor tab. This gives your bot armor which has the weight of Aluminium, but twice the strength. Otherwise known as DSA, which you will hear about a lot. Only use plastic in extreme cases where you can't reduce weight any more.

[Lightshock16]

Thank you all for the Advice guys. I havent gotten to using the Advice on my Heavyweight New Blood, but I used the Advice, particularly the stuff on Razor Tips and Weight Maximisation, to create a Middle Weight Robot Called 'Velocity'. It's weight is just over 393Kg, so obviously It's very close to the 400Kg Middleweight Bracket.

[NFX]

It is an improvement, definitely.  But don't stack all of your razors on individual baseplate anchors, use round extenders (square extenders are fail) and attach them to the baseplate sideways, with the attach points facing outward, so you can get a lot more razors on for a lot less weight. And lower the chassis to make it invertible, five clicks high on the slider is as low as you can go and still be able to get Z-Teks in there.

[Lightshock16]

Yeah, I just had a Tryout Melee, and while Point and Damage wise, It absolutely Dominated, It got overbalanced by one of the Wedge bots, and tipped over, where there was no coming back...I'll go off to change that :)

[Somebody]

Would that robot be a rammer or an SnS (Sit n Spin)?

A tip is to not use circular chassises, because parts can not fit up against the edges if it is a circle.

And if it is an SnS, I can tell you all you need to know

Otherwise, if it is a rammer, try to put weapons on extenders, using the side attachment points. One tip is that Square extenders have no advantage over round ones, so you should not use them. Around here, we like to see the potential of a robot from the standpoint that it is AIed to fight opponents autonomously. On a really good rammer, the weapons will all be at the front. Normally they will be AIed and it will attack with the front, but Clickbeetle wrote a new AI type for Thwartoise that can make double-sided rammers effective.

[Lightshock16]

Okay, though I've left Velocity alone for now, I used all of your advice to improve New Blood. here's how it looks now. Weighs around 673Kg or so.

[Cheese please]

your getting the hang of it. you might want to put on Y extenders so you can put 2 razors on 1 piston

[Lightshock16]

Ahh, good Idea...still, I think I'll stick with this. the Pistons are quite Heavy, and it does say to use as Much weight as possible.

[Somebody]

But you should use it efficiently. Try using extenders. Some of the best rammers only have 2 or 3 pistons.

[Cheese please]

well the alternative thing to do is make the chassis a tiny bit shorter and put the drive as close to eachother as you can get them. sorry if im wrong but, im sure you dont need 3 big airtanks, at most i would think you need 2 and since your using pistons, i would think you only need 1 black battery

[Lightshock16]

Mmm...Might have a Go at it...tomorrow though. Same time as when I look at Velocity.

[Pwnator]

This is the first time my mod powers have been put to use! :D

*giggity giggity goo*

*renames thread*

[NFX]

your getting the hang of it. you might want to put on Y extenders so you can put 2 razors on 1 piston

Instead of a Y connector, you could use two extenders attached to each other by the side attachment point, then you could put 2 razors on one piston for a kilo less. Might not sound like much, but a kilo can sometimes make a lot of difference.
 
Or mount the extenders perpendicular to the piston, then you could get probably up to ten razors on one piston if you wanted to.

[Squirrel_Monkey]

Like this:

Where green dots are attach points

[Lightshock16]

Do you mean Like this?: