Jamin's things

[Jamin]

Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.

too bad its not original.

you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this

If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.

[Mr. AS]

Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.

too bad its not original.

you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this

If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.

put both the weapon systems on. the hammer needs be curved/long enough to reach over the spinner to hit the othere bots chassis

[Jamin]

Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.

too bad its not original.

you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this

If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.

put both the weapon systems on. the hammer needs be curved/long enough to reach over the spinner to hit the othere bots chassis

I understood what you meant, but the point of making a 360o hammer is that I will be able to hit in all directions, it seems like you'd want me to focus all of the attack on one side (the side with the other weapon system.)

[Mr. AS]

Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.

too bad its not original.

you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this

If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.

put both the weapon systems on. the hammer needs be curved/long enough to reach over the spinner to hit the othere bots chassis

I understood what you meant, but the point of making a 360o hammer is that I will be able to hit in all directions, it seems like you'd want me to focus all of the attack on one side (the side with the other weapon system.)

if you have a chassis small enough, the tribar, extender and weapons should encompass the entire bot, again see clickbeetle's bot on the first page

[Jamin]

Nice to see a bit of innovation in stock for a change.

too bad its not original.

you'd be better off with a spinning weapon to fend off popups and other wedges, and the turrent hammer mounted on only round extenders (see the picture i posted on the first page ..... make something like that, of course it would be a middleweight), with no wedges and 2-4 snowplows, and a bottom with casters if you can and you only need shiny hubs/rubbers (shinies if you go with no casters) for this

If I gave it spinning weapons, that could completely defeat the purpose of building a turret hammer.

put both the weapon systems on. the hammer needs be curved/long enough to reach over the spinner to hit the othere bots chassis

I understood what you meant, but the point of making a 360o hammer is that I will be able to hit in all directions, it seems like you'd want me to focus all of the attack on one side (the side with the other weapon system.)

if you have a chassis small enough, the tribar, extender and weapons should encompass the entire bot, again see clickbeetle's bot on the first page

Ok, I'll try out your advice later on. Here is the version of CRASH I was making earlier.

I've been looking at pictures of bots posted here to figure out how to move components inside of each other.

[Pwnator]

jeez he's just starting out and now you're forcing him to build stuff that's 4x more complex?

give him a break

[Mr. AS]

jeez he's just starting out and now you're forcing him to build stuff that's 4x more complex?

give him a break

whos said i was forcing him ? i was hoping for him to take atleast take a try at it, obviously hes no clickbeetle yet, i was hoping he'd atleast try, and if he fails we'll guide him to a finished product !

[Badnik96]

ugh I hate it when some newb joins and his bots are cool but not effective and some guy tells him to make the bot 100% combat effectivity. Stop.

[HurricaneAndrew]

jeez he's just starting out and now you're forcing him to build stuff that's 4x more complex?

give him a break

This.

You all wonder why everyone new posts a few times and then they disappear. It's because people badger them to build something completely generic and condemn any creativity.

Let them build what they want. They will most likely build more complex bots when they feel like they're ready to... We aren't all as good as Sage or infiniteinertia, especially right off the bat.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/learning+curve

Read it. Take it to heart.


Also... There is a difference in teaching and trying to force-feed someone your own knowledge and opinions.

[Badnik96]

^This, like I just said.

[Mr. AS]

ugh I hate it when some newb joins and his bots are cool but not effective and some guy tells him to make the bot 100% combat effectivity. Stop.

cool/original not always = ineffective

i mean srsly i dont know where the stereotype came from that all cool looking bots have to be complete sh** at fighting

just take a look at this:

^i can provide more pics if nessicary^

it looks cool as and can still fight, and you're telling me that theres no possibility for him to become a good builder with creative ideas ?

[Pwnator]

BECAUSE HE CAN'T BUILD STUFF LIKE THAT RIGHT OFF THE BAT!

HOW DO YOU THINK CAN HE BUILD AN EFFECTIVE HYBRID IF HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO BUILD AN EFFECTIVE SINGLE BOT TYPE, LET ALONE IF HE EVEN WANTS TO BUILD AN EFFICIENT ONE?

caps are totally necessary

[HurricaneAndrew]

I have already said that it is possible to build an original design and make it somewhat effective, but that is not the point at all. We're just saying that you need to stop being so forceful about it. Give him time to learn to do the basics, then let him learn the glitches and other techniques.

Edit: Pwn beat me to it and pretty much hit the nail on the head.

[Mr. AS]

BECAUSE HE CAN'T BUILD STUFF LIKE THAT RIGHT OFF THE BAT!

HOW DO YOU THINK CAN HE BUILD AN EFFECTIVE HYBRID IF HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO BUILD AN EFFECTIVE SINGLE BOT TYPE?

calm down, it was just an example. dont get your knickers or undies in a bunch/jimmies rustled/bones rattled/etc.

he should be able to ATLEAST be able to slap down a chassis with a ztek, some drive and a ddt/snapper on a servo and armors on a chassis for us to critque, knowing him he will probably put everything static and have a bit of empty space, im not expecting much from what comes out really ! but we'll give him advice after so he CAN be able to build better bots

I have already said that it is possible to build an original design and make it somewhat effective, but that is not the point at all. We're just saying that you need to stop being so forceful about it.

and again i am saying that im not forcing him (im not holding a damn gun to his head, they are TIPS), im just suggesting that he atleast take an attempt at it, even if it does become a sftw we'll teach him how to make it BETTER until he can be a pro. im telling him to LOOK AT THE PIC AND DO HIS BEST (whatever that may be) TO DRAW INSPARATION FROM IT and TRY to make something SIMILAR, obviously not all the fancy ass snapper loading stuff that they do with a 17.9 kg chassis (actually thatd probably be pretty havoky)

[Virus Bomb]

i might be reading this wrong because i'm sleepy as , but why suggest him to build some efficient combat effective stuff when he's made it clear that that's not what he's going for with his bots?

[Jamin]

I went for combat effectiveness with this one.

[Wacky Bob]

What's the weight and armor?

Try making the motors less exposed and make the wedges longer, because that's not going to get under anything when the weapons are farther out than the wedges. Add more weapons and try to lose the empty space. And nice random extenders at the top, other than that I like it.

[Mr. AS]

yes, you are certainly getting better, but you might want to
1. have a steeper *shallower (typo sorry) wedge so bots will climb up and be able to be guttripped easier
2. get rid of one of the blacks (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/ra2stats.htm)
3. get burst motor wedges, green snappers recommended for this

EDIT: and get it down to a mw because 6 irons is like nothing for a hw

[Jamin]

What's the weight and armor?

Try making the motors less exposed and make the wedges longer, because that's not going to get under anything when the weapons are farther out than the wedges. Add more weapons and try to lose the empty space. And nice random extenders at the top, other than that I like it.

The extenders are to stop robots from going over the top.  It weights 478.9 and has no armor.

[courthousedoc]

Burst load the HPZ's into the chassis (Which by the way needs to be smaller) as wel
Edit: Build to the weight limit