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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2010, 03:45:11 PM »
drums which requires no precision at all ;)

I have not found that to be the case.
My above post explains everything about everything.

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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2010, 03:48:59 PM »
drums which requires no precision at all ;)

I have not found that to be the case.
True.
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2010, 03:56:30 PM »
drums which requires no precision at all ;)

I have not found that to be the case.

There is keeping time, keeping a constant rhythm going and being able to use all four limbs at the same time do different moves, but other than its just hitting pads :P
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2010, 04:02:28 PM »
drums which requires no precision at all ;)

I have not found that to be the case.

There is keeping time, keeping a constant rhythm going and being able to use all four limbs at the same time do different moves, but other than its just hitting pads :P
Fair enough, your just enflating my ego at the moment so...

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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2010, 04:05:11 PM »
drums which requires no precision at all ;)

I have not found that to be the case.

There is keeping time, keeping a constant rhythm going and being able to use all four limbs at the same time do different moves, but other than its just hitting pads :P

Well, I don't know really. I'm a trumepeter, not a drummer.
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2010, 04:07:50 PM »
Well then, guess il just have to stop talking random crap and start working on some bots again...
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2010, 07:17:00 PM »
Drumming = good HAND co-ordination
Guitar = good FINGER co=ordination

I lol'd quite hard at this. Don't know why. =P
 
But I can relate, because I do both. =D
 
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2010, 08:18:50 PM »
I built that big robot on that TV show that time


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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2010, 08:23:19 PM »
Yeah I got it right then :)

And wow you guys really have the measurements figured out, but anyhow Teeth has been set aside for the moment and 4 hours in I can proudly present:

Teeth v2!!
Teeth v2 is basically my initial robot 'Teeth' but revamped for competitive play and I hope to test him out in online matches.

Features:

- 6x Iron Spikes
- 2x Tribars on HP Zteks mounted with razors
- 2x Supervolts batteries, stacked for space
- 4x HP Zteks for drive
- A much better 'use of space and weight'
- Much more effective weaponry
- Invertible (thanks to the N12 wheels even with the Ztek sticking up)
- Side armor to shield wheels (note the spike when I ran out of weight)

Problems:

- Rather high ground clearance
- Exposed top and bottom
- Weak back end

Screenies:


Inside the robot teeth, much cleaner IMO


A view of outside the robot, custom paint job with eyes :P

Explanations:

Although it looks ridiculous the N12 wheels allow this bot to not be completely useless when flipped as the wheels keep the bot moving, however, by using N12 wheels I have to use grannies to properly gain 4 wheel drive (shinies dont quite reach the ground with the N12's lift).
The original design was a rammer with 9 iron spikes but, I have opted for 6 with a much more devastating spinning weapon using the ol servo glitch to maxmise space and damage potential.

Lastly I managed to stack the supervolts (probably the most time consuming thing of all) and there is a total of two batteries in the one spot, I'd rather not edit these.

The armor is the DSA kind and offers a nice amount of protection.

As I began building this bot up I had 4x spike strips to protect the wheels on either side, but the weight limit dawned on me and I had to use poles on the most protected parts (that wouldnt need as much protection, and for symmetry). My old robot weighed in at around 600KG and so this bot far exceeds the weight distribution which I hope makes you lot happy :)

Anyway I think thats about all I can say about it, all comments are welcome but im probably going to be reluctant to try and tackle editing this thing as its only my second bot and this was a pretty dawnting project for me.

Cheers in advance and let me know what you think of the new weaponry.
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2010, 08:53:40 PM »
Looking better already.

Tipz: Using T Connectors and Angle Connectors wastes weight. Notice that each weigh much more than an extender, while an extender can do nearly the same thing with the side attachment points. Try not to use them to save weight.

Weight Limit: Good
Battery Stacking: Very Good (especially for someone so new)

Heres a lesson on weapons.

Some weapons have normals. What is a normal you ask? A normal means that there it a part of a weapon that does damage, instead of the whole thing.

Weapons like razor tips, Iron spikes, and maces do damage no matter where they are hit, because they have no normals.

Weapons like pole spikes, pointy tips, battle axes, fire axes, spike strips, blade components, and axe heads all have normals. In a situation like this, those pole spike wheel guards would just take damage, but give none back. A better alternative could be iron spikes in this situation. Try to only use weapons with normals when it will be the normal part that will hit (like axe heads on a rammer). Although battle axes can make cool looking armor when used properly ;)
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2010, 09:10:15 PM »
I like how were all discussing each-others "abilitys" to do things.
Steady hands arent exactly "required" for art, just, it helps if your going for more detail. As art comes in all shapes and sizes, and ranges from nazi-detail to just plain sloppy. But who cares, art is art. Just have fun with it and create whats on your mind. Art only really needs to make seance to the creator, and just let the audience use there imagination to try and figure out what it is. Really, just have fun with it.

And TC, do you REALLY need those side-guards for your robot? The whole frontal spinner/rammer system pretty much does that already. As strong frontal weapons don't exactly need side defense.
Like look at Rabid Pit Bull for example. Its entire front is a death trap. But the rest of it is vulnerable to everything els.
Why build it that way? Because its awesome.

tl;dr: Your just too lazy to read all that.
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2010, 09:12:30 PM »
I like feeling safe? :)

Dno really I always just look at my bots and think ahh that bits exposed! Anyhow, just shot a video of it in action:



enjoy!
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2010, 09:16:55 PM »
I like feeling safe? :)
Define "safe" in a game of combat machines, in which certain types of bots do better/worse agenst others.

Dno really I always just look at my bots and think ahh that bits exposed!
Real men fight with exposed wheels.
....Or just exposed ones that are harder to get at.

Anyhow, just shot a video of it in action:
Nice opening hit there.
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2010, 09:19:34 PM »
I feel exposed after that reply... o.O

Tore my reply clean up

And I know emergencys the best but if he flipped me instead of me smashing his flippers in the first hit it would take more than a couple takes before it looked impressive :)
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2010, 10:37:28 PM »
Tore my reply clean up
Because it tastes better when I cut it up, cook it, and serve as a delicious meal.
(Just faceplam now)

And I know emergencys the best but if he flipped me instead of me smashing his flippers in the first hit it would take more than a couple takes before it looked impressive :)
EMERGENCY is actually very easy. Stubborn, but very easy.
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2010, 06:26:29 AM »
Real men fight with exposed wheels.

F*** YEAH ! Let's just abandon armor all together and SPAM EVEN MOAR RAZORS on our bots !

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Anyways, if you drive well enough you don't need side/rear armor on a rammer.

It's like ninjas really. They don't wear armor because they're fast enough !

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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2010, 06:43:16 AM »
Real men fight with exposed wheels.

F*** YEAH ! Let's just abandon armor all together and SPAM EVEN MOAR RAZORS on our bots !


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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2010, 08:35:32 AM »
Looking better already.

Tipz: Using T Connectors and Angle Connectors wastes weight. Notice that each weigh much more than an extender, while an extender can do nearly the same thing with the side attachment points. Try not to use them to save weight.

Weight Limit: Good
Battery Stacking: Very Good (especially for someone so new)

Heres a lesson on weapons.

Some weapons have normals. What is a normal you ask? A normal means that there it a part of a weapon that does damage, instead of the whole thing.

Weapons like razor tips, Iron spikes, and maces do damage no matter where they are hit, because they have no normals.

Weapons like pole spikes, pointy tips, battle axes, fire axes, spike strips, blade components, and axe heads all have normals. In a situation like this, those pole spike wheel guards would just take damage, but give none back. A better alternative could be iron spikes in this situation. Try to only use weapons with normals when it will be the normal part that will hit (like axe heads on a rammer). Although battle axes can make cool looking armor when used properly ;)

Thats some nice info there Somebody, thanks.

And dont even get me started on how frustrating it was to stack them batteries, I've accidently done it in the past but trying to actually do it was a complete mick take... Thanks for the compliments.

And the whole weapon normals thing sounds pretty interesting and il definatley have to take some of that into consideration when making my next bot, think il try a medium or lightweight bot, my light weights suck, good enough to beat the stock bots but after looking at the RA2 wiki of some of the lightweights on show my jaw just dropped in comparrison...
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2010, 10:40:19 AM »
And dont even get me started on how frustrating it was to stack them batteries, I've accidently done it in the past but trying to actually do it was a complete mick take...
This is why I usually just build the bot to hold at least 2 Blacks/Red batteries. I can cut back on all the frustration of my inability to stack them.

think il try a medium or lightweight bot, my light weights suck, good enough to beat the stock bots but after looking at the RA2 wiki of some of the lightweights on show my jaw just dropped in comparrison...
Lightweights are an interesting build, and are a good challenge.
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Re: Hi5er's Stock Showcase
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2010, 12:01:56 PM »
Lightweights are an interesting build, and are a good challenge.

Antweights are even more fun! Especially in NAR AI!
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