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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2016, 04:23:07 PM »
Is that a plow on the back?

Why is there a plow on the back. lol

It's so it can semi-protect the rear. yet it's barely used :P
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2016, 11:18:06 PM »
Is that a plow on the back?

Why is there a plow on the back. lol

It's so it can semi-protect the rear. yet it's barely used :P

The plow on the back is not necessary because bots do not target each others' rears. The AI scripts that run the robots are not programmed to do this, and since all contemporary tournaments involve robots being driven by AI, most people simply forgo rear protection.
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2016, 11:57:32 PM »
The plow on the back is not necessary because bots do not target each others' rears. The AI scripts that run the robots are not programmed to do this, and since all contemporary tournaments involve robots being driven by AI, most people simply forgo rear protection.
so what happens when you get flanked and the other bot is behind you  :mrgreen:

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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2016, 04:20:24 AM »
plow on the back can also be used as a pseudo-wedge when driving and inverted.

also it doesn't need to be more front-heavy. the axes already make it front heavy, besides this is a 6WD bot so frontal heaviness isn't really an issue.

also i doubt losing wheels causes havok. losing motors or free axles causes havok.

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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2016, 10:26:37 AM »
plow on the back can also be used as a pseudo-wedge when driving and inverted
nar go home you're drunk. Plows make for horrible wedges because:
1. it's not even on a burst motor
and 2. plows are way too wide to be efficient wedges. The narrower your wedge component is, the better of a wedge it is. This is why EMERGENCY wedges are crap for getting under other bots.

Putting armor on your rear is also useless, since odds are if anything can reach there at all you're already screwed. 09 is just memeing like he usually does. The closest to rear protection you really need is plows on the sides to give the wheels a slight bit of extra protection against SnS.
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2016, 10:40:22 AM »
plow on the back can also be used as a pseudo-wedge when driving and inverted
nar go home you're drunk. Plows make for horrible wedges because:
1. it's not even on a burst motor
and 2. plows are way too wide to be efficient wedges. The narrower your wedge component is, the better of a wedge it is. This is why EMERGENCY wedges are crap for getting under other bots.

you seem to have forgotten that he plays against stock ai and a plow is a good wedge at stock ai level

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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2016, 11:07:46 AM »
you seem to have forgotten that he plays against stock ai and a plow is a good wedge at stock ai level
If that's the case for DG, then what's Rabid Pit Bull and The Troll doing in Stock AI?

So for improvements, I suggest what AS said, and try cloning Clickbeetle's rammer on his tutorial page (it should be posted somewhere in this in this showcase by AS I think) if you want a good idea on how to make a good HW rammer.

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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2016, 07:50:25 PM »
Alright here's Heavy Steel Terror 2:



Same components I just removed the back plow and put 2 Plows on the side to protect the middle and back wheels and added 2 more axes

It can win sometimes:

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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2016, 07:54:18 PM »
its not too bad but round extenders weigh less and have the same HP as square (unless you use the special 140cm one you get in the 1.4 patch)
you probably also want to get more axes on with that weight as well as make them straight, it looks a bit messy right now. heck you can probably get by on one black even and shrink the chassis in the back to get even more weight but thats your call.

also shinies are lighter than grannies and you can use that weight to get more axes
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2016, 08:07:38 PM »
its not too bad but round extenders weigh less and have the same HP as square (unless you use the special 140cm one you get in the 1.4 patch)
you probably also want to get more axes on with that weight as well as make them straight, it looks a bit messy right now. heck you can probably get by on one black even and shrink the chassis in the back to get even more weight but thats your call.

also shinies are lighter than grannies and you can use that weight to get more axes

The shinies are not big enough. So do I remove the plows or keep the grannies? I mean the plows do their job very well.
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2016, 09:00:56 PM »
The shinies are not big enough.
no?



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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2016, 09:04:06 PM »
The shinies are not big enough.
why are you so against our suggestions man? we know what we're talking about.

I'm not against them. I'm just saying that I tested the shinies and the bot doesn't move so do I remove the plows sacrificing defence or keep the grannies?
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2016, 10:50:14 PM »
your ramming rack shouldnt be so high up
also try making the chassis height the minimum height to fit zteks (5 ticks up from the bottom) for shinies to work for invertibility n stuff

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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2016, 06:27:33 PM »
also try making the chassis height the minimum height to fit zteks (5 ticks up from the bottom) for shinies to work for invertibility n stuff

But the plows make it so shinies can't make the bot move so do I get rid of the plows or keep the plows and granies
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2016, 06:51:42 PM »
Shiny wheels can be invertible with plows if you put the baseplate anchor holding the plows on the bottom of the chassis.
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2016, 07:00:55 PM »
Shiny wheels can be invertible with plows if you put the baseplate anchor holding the plows on the bottom of the chassis.

Oh ok
Thanks!
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2016, 06:51:37 PM »
My next bot I plan on forcing into Noob Warz V:
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2016, 04:09:31 AM »
i dunno, it doesnt seem that bad to me

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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2016, 04:58:45 AM »
Above n00b warz tier, I'd say :P
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Re: Deadgenocide's Not Really Improved Stock AI bots and Own Newb Stock Bots
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2016, 08:01:13 AM »
Above n00b warz tier, I'd say :P

After I looked at the splashes Conraaa posted in the NOOB WARZ V thread I think my bot is noob warz material.
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