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Robot Arena => Showcases => Stock Showcases => Topic started by: ayak420 on July 09, 2011, 03:45:09 PM

Title: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: ayak420 on July 09, 2011, 03:45:09 PM
Here are two bots that I have been working on. Both have two HP Zteks stacked as weapon power, two HP Zteks as drive, and two Black Batteries for power. 

Terrorstorm 4 674.0kg HW VS
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/9318terrorstorm4.jpg)

TerorStorm 4.1 689.3 HW VS
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/8708terrorstorm4.1.jpg)
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: FOTEPX on July 09, 2011, 03:46:19 PM
FINALLY, A NEW USER WITH SKILLS!

They look awesome, but you really need to put more weapons on those spinners.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Wacky Bob on July 09, 2011, 03:48:00 PM
Looks good!

I'd say fool around with the chassis to enclose the motors and put on more weapons on the spinner with extenders.

I assume you know what I mean, since it looks like you've seen the Beetlebros' tips.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Vertigo on July 09, 2011, 03:49:35 PM
 :welcome

Three simple rules that should lead you to a relative amount of success:
 - Always use as many weapons as you can, but use them wisely, i.e. Only Razor Tips, Iron Spikes or Maces
 - Always build to the weight limit, while keeping your bots as compact as possible
 - KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid)
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on July 09, 2011, 03:52:23 PM
Swap the Emergency wedge with a Small Wedge on a DDT. It's been proven that smalls are wedgier.

Get the drive motors inside the chassis and replace the n-12s for grannies or shinies.

Use the plow setup you used on the first one on the second one. It helps trap bots.

Try to get more weapons on there.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Fracture on July 09, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
FINALLY, A NEW USER WITH SKILLS!
:(

Anyway...is that two wedges on the second bot? o_O
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on July 09, 2011, 04:35:14 PM
Remove the back plows, moar razorz, less extenders.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Somebody on July 09, 2011, 04:35:36 PM
FINALLY, A NEW USER WITH SKILLS!

They look awesome, but you really need to put more weapons on those spinners.

Overstated a bit there.

And *cough*Geice*cough*
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on July 09, 2011, 04:37:13 PM
Build to the weight limit as well, You have a good extra 100 kgs.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: ayak420 on July 09, 2011, 05:43:59 PM
Here is the updated version. I do not think that there is a way to stack the weapons because the weapon is the 7th part attached to the base. Kept the drive motors outside to help with control. Does anyone have any ideas about protecting them?
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/19606terrorstorm5.jpg)
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Enigm@ on July 09, 2011, 05:47:14 PM
Still has unnecessary anchors. Make it so that the z-teks are in the chassis.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Badnik96 on July 09, 2011, 06:04:19 PM
Make the wedge longer, it'll help with balance
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: ayak420 on July 09, 2011, 10:26:07 PM
Here is the newest version of the bot.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/99657terrorstorm6.jpg)
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Scrap Daddy on July 09, 2011, 10:33:17 PM
I liked the look of the second version with the chained spinners at the top on a wedge. I would go with that type of chassis, put some ramplates or something on it on the wedge, and some rad hs or something else.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 10, 2011, 12:33:20 AM
FINALLY, A NEW USER WITH SKILLS!

That was pretty mean.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: ayak420 on July 10, 2011, 08:31:25 PM
I liked the look of the second version with the chained spinners at the top on a wedge. I would go with that type of chassis, put some ramplates or something on it on the wedge, and some rad hs or something else.

Would the ram plates stop bots from getting up to the killzone and what do you mean by rad hs?
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 11, 2011, 09:37:59 AM
RAD=Right Angled Drive
HS=Horizontal Spinner
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 11, 2011, 10:01:31 AM
I liked the look of the second version with the chained spinners at the top on a wedge. I would go with that type of chassis, put some ramplates or something on it on the wedge, and some rad hs or something else.

Would the ram plates stop bots from getting up to the killzone and what do you mean by rad hs?

Your HS is rad!
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: ayak420 on July 13, 2011, 07:38:59 PM
So here is the new version that I just whipped up. The angle motors spin towards the center of the bot to keep opponents in the middle. Had no weight to spare for the ram plates.
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/2442terrorstorm7.jpg)
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 13, 2011, 07:44:57 PM
HS-VS hybrid with a wedge? Interesting and ambitious, but the lack of weaponry and the fact that the HS part will prevent the VS from hitting anything makes this cool, yet innefective.

Remove the wedge, move the HS back to the VS can connect, and use the rest on adding weapons to the VS/HS parts.t

And try to put allthe connectors in the middle, so you can shrink the chassis by a lot Also, this will need 3 or 4 blacks.

That is all I can think of. Still very cool, though.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on July 14, 2011, 02:59:13 AM
Actually, this just needs 2 blacks, and the weapon setup (spacing-wise) is near perfection. Just attach the drive directly to the baseplate and perhaps attach the RAD system to the Snapper2 holding the plow.

hybridz r kewl
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 04:49:31 AM
Actually, this just needs 2 blacks, and the weapon setup (spacing-wise) is near perfection. Just attach the drive directly to the baseplate and perhaps attach the RAD system to the Snapper2 holding the plow.

hybridz r kewl
But blacks output 800 units, and HPZs need 400 to be fully powered, therefore 1 black to 2 HPzs?
It needs to be centeralised, so the chassis can shrink, and the wedge is just a hinderance.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on July 14, 2011, 04:58:48 AM
A fully powered weapon system is one thing (that's 1 black to 4 HPZs, btw as only bursts follow the full power thingy. Spin motors only require half the stated output), an extremely fragile weapon system is another. You would lose all your spikes against even against a decent counter in less than 2 minutes.

Plus, outwedging a bot might be the only thing you need for a victory. A popup can easily trash that thing despite the type disadvantage.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Badger on July 14, 2011, 05:06:05 AM
A fully powered weapon system is one thing (that's 1 black to 4 HPZs, btw as only bursts follow the full power thingy. Spin motors only require half the stated output), an extremely fragile weapon system is another. You would lose all your spikes against even against a decent counter in less than 2 minutes.

Plus, outwedging a bot might be the only thing you need for a victory. A popup can easily trash that thing despite the type disadvantage.
Lose one spike on the VS, and you will, quickly, and the wedge is deemed useless, thus the whole bot is. To defeat the bot, all you would have to do is knock off a spike, and let it bounce around, gut ripping it. Wedge = Bad
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: Pwnator on July 14, 2011, 05:15:20 AM
lol dude have you even tried playing around with a chained vs?

Nearly any bot that can rip off a chained VS' spikes without doing much will pwn the VS whether the VS has a wedge or not.

Try fighting contemporary HWs with a chained VS and you will see that you DO need a wedge for it to be good:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62419sawmill.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/82617hsm2.jpg)

If you're going wedgeless you may as well ditch the chain and go for a dual VS so you pack more armor.

Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: good10 on July 14, 2011, 06:23:05 AM
FINALLY, A NEW USER WITH SKILLS!

They look awesome, but you really need to put more weapons on those spinners.

how do u know he is new maybe he was playing whit out the forum ?

but yes he have alot of skill :))
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: NFX on July 14, 2011, 07:39:35 AM
Well, new user doesn't really mean that he hasn't seen the forums yet. He may have been a lurker for a while, such as Geice, which may explain his relatively good building skills. I think it looks quite old-school, I like it.
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: good10 on July 14, 2011, 08:03:55 AM
i never understand what means "old scool" :)
Title: Re: ayak420 Showcase
Post by: ayak420 on July 15, 2011, 12:43:39 PM
Here this will solve the question as to how long I have been around.
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4760.msg205677.html#msg205677 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4760.msg205677.html#msg205677)

Long time and a new bot so I just started a new thread.