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Site Information => Site News and Feedback => Topic started by: Vertigo on May 06, 2011, 01:40:11 PM
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Why has everyone's rep been reset?
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I dunno. I'm atleast satisfied...
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I also removed the "Watched" from most of you, BUT you ARE still being watched, so remember that.
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Oh cool
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I want my -100 rep back. Thank ya.
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ooh.
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Wait! I have the highest rep...
lol XD
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What a bummer :P
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I imagine it was because people were going a little bit nuts with it. I was at +47, for crying out loud. Something's wrong when I have a higher rep than Clickbeetle. =]
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I give it a few days before the system goes to pot again.
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I think we had the discussion about resetting the rep a while back, and we decided that it'd just end up more or less the same after a few months, and it'd have to be reset again.
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Tsk tsk, resetting without saving. Be glad I'm off duty from my day job as a one-man anti-resetting zerketposzt, or I'd give you a LONG lecture. One with yes/no responses, where you can't make the text scroll faster by holding down A.
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ACAMS you little resetti
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Tsk tsk, resetting without saving
You should go off on a huge tangent now. :D
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Tsk tsk, resetting without saving
You should go off on a huge tangent now. :D
You got that right, Melvin :P
Now...
SCRAM!
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Slowly but surely, ACAMS is removing the rep system.
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Slowly but surely, ACAMS is removing the rep system.
I don't see why he just didn't remove it.
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Slowly but surely, ACAMS is removing the rep system.
I don't see why he just didn't remove it.
He wants to annoy us for a little bit longer.
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Tsk tsk, resetting without saving
Tsk tsk, resetting without saving
You should go off on a huge tangent now. :D
"Let's get down to business, whaddya say? Because you may not know it, but you and I got issues to discuss.
First, let me just tell you what it is I'm doin' here. Just so there are no misunderstandings later on.
You, my friend, reset the Reputation, didn't you? Huh? Maybe by accident, maybe on purpose, but you pressed it.
Or maybe you didn't huh? Maybe you just went and turned the power off without saving. Sound familiar?
What? Sorry, what was that? I didn't catch that last bit. Did you just say I'm right? You did what I said you did?
Ah-HA!!!
All right, you listen and listen good, 'cause I get real angry when I repeat stuff I gotta say.
Resetting... It's like... Pressing an Emergency Call button. You press it and I gotta read you the riot act. See?
Also, you gotta SAVE before you turn the power off. If you don't save, it's the same as resetting.
Well, okay... That last part? I just added that. Why? Because I wanted to.
Forget about other sites for a minute, will ya?
I'm here to suggest that you try and run THIS site, GameTechMods, without hitting RESET. Got it?
I know what you're thinking: "Whether I hit RESET or not should be up to me. After all, it's MY site!"
Well, sorry. Rules are rules, okay? Know what I'm sayin'? Let's not make a big deal out of this. End of discussion.
This bein' our first meeting, I'll let you off easy. Think of this as a friendly warning from me to you.
Oh, one more thing. This is my job. I take it seriously. So next time you see me, it's nor more Mr. Nice Mole.
Oh, yeah, and another thing I guess I gotta say here...
I really watched my... language... here today. I'm not usually so... you know, so polite.
If I'm bein' truthful here, I gotta tell you... I been told I got what you call an acid tongue. I sorta... scare people.
Hey that's... who I am. Nothin' I can do about it. What, I'm supposed to say sorry for being me?
Look, it's nothin' personal. I ain't tryin' to be mean or cruel or nothin'. I ain't a monster.
For those people who get their feelin's bruised easily, I gotta apologise in advance. Just deal with it, okay?
The deal is, I get paid to be nasty. Crazy world, huh? Ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Well, I figure it's about time for me to get outta here.
So uh... Yeah. Here's hopin' I don't have to come see you no more. Now...
SCRAM!"
Like that? :3
Slowly but surely, ACAMS is removing the rep system.
I don't see why he just didn't remove it.
It's zetta difficult to remove.
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Tsk tsk, resetting without saving
Tsk tsk, resetting without saving
You should go off on a huge tangent now. :D
"Let's get down to business, whaddya say? Because you may not know it, but you and I got issues to discuss.
First, let me just tell you what it is I'm doin' here. Just so there are no misunderstandings later on.
You, my friend, reset the Reputation, didn't you? Huh? Maybe by accident, maybe on purpose, but you pressed it.
Or maybe you didn't huh? Maybe you just went and turned the power off without saving. Sound familiar?
What? Sorry, what was that? I didn't catch that last bit. Did you just say I'm right? You did what I said you did?
Ah-HA!!!
All right, you listen and listen good, 'cause I get real angry when I repeat stuff I gotta say.
Resetting... It's like... Pressing an Emergency Call button. You press it and I gotta read you the riot act. See?
Also, you gotta SAVE before you turn the power off. If you don't save, it's the same as resetting.
Well, okay... That last part? I just added that. Why? Because I wanted to.
Forget about other sites for a minute, will ya?
I'm here to suggest that you try and run THIS site, GameTechMods, without hitting RESET. Got it?
I know what you're thinking: "Whether I hit RESET or not should be up to me. After all, it's MY site!"
Well, sorry. Rules are rules, okay? Know what I'm sayin'? Let's not make a big deal out of this. End of discussion.
This bein' our first meeting, I'll let you off easy. Think of this as a friendly warning from me to you.
Oh, one more thing. This is my job. I take it seriously. So next time you see me, it's nor more Mr. Nice Mole.
Oh, yeah, and another thing I guess I gotta say here...
I really watched my... language... here today. I'm not usually so... you know, so polite.
If I'm bein' truthful here, I gotta tell you... I been told I got what you call an acid tongue. I sorta... scare people.
Hey that's... who I am. Nothin' I can do about it. What, I'm supposed to say sorry for being me?
Look, it's nothin' personal. I ain't tryin' to be mean or cruel or nothin'. I ain't a monster.
For those people who get their feelin's bruised easily, I gotta apologise in advance. Just deal with it, okay?
The deal is, I get paid to be nasty. Crazy world, huh? Ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Well, I figure it's about time for me to get outta here.
So uh... Yeah. Here's hopin' I don't have to come see you no more. Now...
SCRAM!"
Like that? :3
Slowly but surely, ACAMS is removing the rep system.
I don't see why he just didn't remove it.
It's zetta difficult to remove.
Yeah liek that
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Meh, should've just been deleted altogether.
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+1 for every one.
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Hmmm...I got a feeling this won't help for long.
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Probably not
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Meh, should've just been deleted altogether.
I agree with this. Resetting it really doesn't accomplish much, it'll just get trashed all over again. If we want to get rid of it, we might as well do it properly.
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What I dislike most is people who deserve the rep now have less than those who abuse the system. Hence my rep-rounds.
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Ah well, maybe We'll be mature and use it properly.
I'm not rating anyone up or down unless they actually do something positive for the forum.
What I dislike most is people who deserve the rep now have less than those who abuse the system. Hence my rep-rounds.
Thats true; I don't abuse the system, but due to my friends I'll probably have 8 or 9 before Sage and other great roboteers.
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This is one of the problems we had before, wasn't it? The main builders/contributors group didn't really care, so they didn't rep each other as much as the group that hung around in the Junk Yard and actually gave a crap. Guys like FOTEPX, Jonzu and GF93. Who were, ironically, both the three most repped UP members, and the three most repped DOWN members. In order.
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Meh, should've just been deleted altogether.
I agree with this. Resetting it really doesn't accomplish much, it'll just get trashed all over again. If we want to get rid of it, we might as well do it properly.
I'm still searching for the thread in which ACAMS states how hard this would be.
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To remove a system?
He doesn't even need to remove it, he just needs to hide it or deny everyone access to the Rep Box.
I'm siding with NFX on this one.
And Hydro, the reason you repped me up is exactly what I was talking about; I didn't deserve a Rep +, So why did I get one?
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To remove a system?
He doesn't even need to remove it, he just needs to hide it or deny everyone access to the Rep Box.
I'm siding with NFX on this one.
And Hydro, the reason you repped me up is exactly what I was talking about; I didn't deserve a Rep +, So why did I get one?
To hide it, he still has to change loads of stuff.
Now, if only I could find that thread >.<
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This is one of the problems we had before, wasn't it? The main builders/contributors group didn't really care, so they didn't rep each other as much as the group that hung around in the Junk Yard and actually gave a crap. Guys like FOTEPX, Jonzu and GF93. Who were, ironically, both the three most repped UP members, and the three most repped DOWN members. In order.
I agree. I don't like the rep system in the slightest, it's just a platform for drama queens/kings/Jonzus. It should be for deserving it.
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Yup, every 5 days I'm just going to rep up any Roboteers that I remember, hopefully keeping the System somewhat in tact.
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This might sound like a bit of hyperbole, but I think the Rep system is simply a less structured Respect rating. And I reckon as long as every member can give or remove rep, then there's going to be the same problem with the Junkyard Drama Queens.
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I would say give access to AU and higher, but I think I'm fairly fair with it and kind of want to keep rep privileges >.<
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I'd say you were quite fair with it. We're kinda creating a dilemma here, about whether we should have it for everyone, and have the drama queens continue to uprate everyone for the sake of it, or have exclusive rights to rep changing for higher groups, which would probably make it fairer (assuming MNB doesn't go nuts with the brony stuff), but then the fairer regular members would lose out on it, which I think would be a shame.
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Take it away! I'm cool with that.
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I am interested to see how this works out.
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I would say give access to AU and higher
QFT.
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I would say give access to AU and higher
QFT.
Double QFT
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Defenitely noted for Truth.
I'm too lazy to quote, but we don't deserve this.
And rep was reset again.
EDIT: There we go, only advanced members can do it now.
I gave out 5 rep before then though.
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TESTING 1,2,3
DANG, only a few can give rep now.
Looks like maybe just selected users that don't abuse the system.
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TESTING 1,2,3
DANG, only a few can give rep now.
Looks like maybe just selected users that don't abuse the system.
And this would be because?
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I don't abuse the System ^^
Well, except right when it was reset, because I was trying to get the Roboteers back up to their deserved levels.
But thats a better reason then 'because I like them'.
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There are two that wont join the list.......NEXT!
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Looks like I'm not on the list. Well, I'll admit, I blatantly abuse the system... :mrgreen:
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there goes all the fun! :P
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There are two that wont join the list.......NEXT!
Acams, sorry to stop you on your whole let's reset rep crusade, but how is that justifiable? All I asked was a question, and yes, going up against you when I've just come out of a ban isn't exactly the smartest of moves, but just explain You have chosen me and Kujii to not add rep, and why we will never 'join the list'.
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You guies are some of the last people he would prob let give rep
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You guies are some of the last people he would prob let give rep
And why? Because all people judge books by covers? Well, this is one book where you need to get to the twist in the middle before it becomes an enjoyable read.
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Wait, I'm not allowed to give rep?
I'm absolutely confused by that. I've never given rep to people when they ask for it, nor do I randomly give rep to people just for liking them. In fact I rarely gave out rep ever.
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You guies are some of the last people he would prob let give rep
And why? Because all people judge books by covers? Well, this is one book where you need to get to the twist in the middle before it becomes an enjoyable read.
just think about how you where acting before.
You need to so that you can control yourself before you get to give rep
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I'm not even sure what I could have possibly been doing to show I'm not allowed to give rep x_x.
Maybe I've misunderstood, but from what I've heard Fotepx and I are the only ones that currently can't give rep?
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I can't either, and as I said, it's probably because I openly abuse the system.
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I never did abuse the rep system and never did anything wrong on the forum and I can`t give rep?
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OH! maybe I shouldn't jump to conclusions. I thought it was already set up fully.
I'm betting no one can right now, and he is still deciding whom can/can not give rep. He also didn't state who he has decided he won't ever allow to give rep. I just gotta think before I post sometimes I guess.
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I think Kujii's right. I'm unable to give rep at the moment, I think he still has to work out the users from the abusers, then the system might actually work. I figured we might get some bawwing or backlash such as FOTEPX's earlier outburst, but I think it's justifiable that you should have to prove you know what you're doing around the forums before you get access to the Rep up/down features.
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I never did abuse the rep system and never did anything wrong on the forum and I can`t give rep?
That's just because nobody likes you.
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never did anything wrong on the forum and I can`t give rep?
remember when you spammed the MLP topic and got banned?
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I wonder if he has access to the old logs of the Rep up/ down to reference. Its probably better then taking our word.
never did anything wrong on the forum and I can`t give rep?
remember when you spammed the MLP topic and got banned?
This.
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Purse. You got banned. on GTM. You have to do A LOT wrong to have that happen. And I can't give rep either, so I think Kujii is right. And FOTEPX, we aren't judging you by your cover. We know you very well enough to know that you are a whiny nuisance!
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Because all people judge books by covers?
We have all read the book so much the cover is torn to shreds!
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Because all people judge books by covers?
We have all read the book so much the cover is torn to shreds!
The book's original cover was called: "Henry the Dinosaur goes over a mountain"
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Its been defaced, and Teenagers at the public library have pasted newd photo's over the original content.
So yes, we do know about you, thats why your rep was so low.
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Who are the reputators?
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None that we know of so far.
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How did I abuse the system? All I really did was up-rate people because they did something that deserves an applaud. I also should get credit for that R.o.T.a.S. rep in the replica thread.
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Noone has privileges, Acams is currently deciding whom has/has not abused the system (or at least thats what we believe he's doing).
Just let it alone for a while.
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How did I abuse the system? All I really did was up-rate people because they did something that deserves an applaud. I also should get credit for that R.o.T.a.S. rep in the replica thread.
*spits on the ground* Comments like that are why you had such a negative rep before the reset. I'll be happy to tell you the reasons I wouldn't uprate you for your ROTS replica, see Replicas thread
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but do they have to say reasons for changing? cause I liked that part of the new rep system. I also prefer that only a few can change the reputation. now we have fear, respect and reputation raters :P
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I'm confused now. Who can change rep?
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currently noone.
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But ACAMS is working out who to give the privelage to.
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AU and up IMO
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AU and up IMO
This does seem to be the general concensus. There are a few reasonable regular members that don't abuse it, but their group is being let down a lot by the abusers and circlejerkers, which is a shame to deprive them of it for something that other members are doing. But for the moment, I'm in agreement with the AU and upwards idea.
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Not all the AU are unabusive of the System either, in addition as you'll read earlier in the thread, for a unknown reason the System disagree'd with him attempting to function it that way?
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I vote Mr Test gets sole rights to change rep :mrgreen:
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I vote Mr Test gets sole rights to change rep :mrgreen:
Seconded.
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That would be funny for a bit.
I'm just gonna see what happens, no use complaining.
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The rep system is three votes pretending to be two. A +, a - and a no-vote. Not only that, it's too similar to the reddit system to use for one post you think is stupid and too different for one post you think is stupid.
It looks like it affects one moment for a person, where it actually is affecting every moment for a person.
Remove it from the profiles that a ppear whenever a person posts, and remove either the + or -.
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I also removed the "Watched" from most of you, BUT you ARE still being watched, so remember that.
Good work there :approve:
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Congrats on the first rep up NFX
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I did notice that, I just didn't think it was that significant. At the minute it just seems to be MR TEST who can award rep.
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I did notice that, I just didn't think it was that significant. At the minute it just seems to be MR TEST who can award rep.
So another thing for Mr Test to do with his spiritual life in the mountainous forests, asides from testing things, meditating, practising martial arts and breaking rocks with his head, it would appear?
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Mr Test is now solely and alone the one thing that tells us exactly how much we suck.
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Mr Test is now solely and alone the one thing that tells us exactly how much we suck.
Which is stupid and it's just Mr test testing.
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He has gone back to the mountains fishing for trout.
You should notice that some of you are able to give rep now.....most of you posting here can't, but several members now can.
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About time.
Good on you, ACAMS. Good on you.
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IMO the advanced user thing isn't a good idea because sensible guys like Marty or Doomkiller aren't advanced users, despite being solid contributors for a fair while.
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IMO the advanced user thing isn't a good idea because sensible guys like Marty or Doomkiller aren't advanced users, despite being solid contributors for a fair while.
That's what I was getting at. The trouble is, though, if we do allow every member to rep up or down, then the Drama Queens will abuse the system as much as they did before. I remember the discussion about individual members being granted access to the Junk Yard ,perhaps we could apply something similar for the rep system?
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IMO the advanced user thing isn't a good idea because sensible guys like Craaig or Doomkiller aren't advanced users, despite being solid contributors for a fair while.
Fix'd. :P
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I am advance user and I can't give rep.
Not saying I would regardless, but that's just something you guys might want to know.
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I'm guessing it's only Staff that can give rep at the moment. Just to see how it goes and such.
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IMO the advanced user thing isn't a good idea because sensible guys like Craaig or Doomkiller aren't advanced users, despite being solid contributors for a fair while.
Fix'd. :P
Ehhh, no offense to Craaig, but you tend to be better at avoiding trouble.
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No rep for me either. I'm guessing Staff and Vets.
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I cant
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Well he did say most of us posting here can't.
(I'm betting that was the first trial on whom was good enough for it).
I suppose the list of people that can give rep will reveal itself in time.
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And apparently I can. :D
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Why is this such a problem?
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Better start suckin' up to Serge then kids.
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Why is this such a problem?
Because of Terminal Wallies like you messing around with the system, that's why :rolleyes:
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Why is this such a problem?
Because of Terminal Wallies like you messing around with the system, that's why :rolleyes:
If looking around the room, you can't find the problem; Your probably it GF98, your one of the ones that act like Rep matters....duh.
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Why is this such a problem?
Because of Terminal Wallies like you messing around with the system, that's why :rolleyes:
If looking around the room, you can't find the problem; Your probably it GF98, your one of the ones that act like Rep matters....duh.
Who are you calling 98, matey? ;)
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98 is 20% cooler then 93, so I made a Typo to cause it to exist.
But were OT.
Actually, this has been discussed to death, I got nothing further to say.
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98 is 20% cooler then 93, so I made a Typo to cause it to exist.
Maybe so, but there's at least five years in it, matey. Therefore, a bit of a crucial mistake to make if you're going for actual age :cool:
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To be fair, he did have something of a point. You did make those threads when your rep was going down. Hopefully the new system should help prevent that happening again, but you did take it a bit more seriously than you probably should have.
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To be fair, he did have something of a point. You did make those threads when your rep was going down. Hopefully the new system should help prevent that happening again, but you did take it a bit more seriously than you probably should have.
Indeed that was the case in the past, but not anymore. You've got to admit I've improved since the new changes were put in place though, right?
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I would agree with that. But at the end of the day, it's ACAMS' decision as to who gets the privileges and who doesn't.
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And apparently I can. :D
oh boy....
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And apparently I can. :D
oh boy....
That's a somewhat dubious move. But hey, I'd agree that he's earned the privilege.
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I'm surprised that no one's been stupid enough to say "Just deny the drama queens and such rep privileges"..
The answer: That would cause a heck of a lot more problems and flaming.
Anyways I'm happy with the way the rep system's going because now no one can really rep whore.
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and who are YOU again?
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and who are YOU again?
A secret lurker covering as an idiotic Lemon, any else you want to know?
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and who are YOU again?
He's someone who can't spell phoenix and has less posts than me
Besides that, I haven't a clue
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and who are YOU again?
A secret lurker covering as an idiotic Lemon, any else you want to know?
I'd like to know entirely how a lurker actually expects people to respect thier opinion.
Its something I've never gotten, they post so little that noone knows them when they post, so almost noone agree's with the post.
I'm surprised no ones asked to deny us that eit- oh wait, yes they have.
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and who are YOU again?
A secret lurker covering as an idiotic Lemon, any else you want to know?
I'd like to know entirely how a lurker actually expects people to respect thier opinion.
Its something I've never gotten, they post so little that noone knows them when they post, so almost noone agree's with the post.
I'm surprised no ones asked to deny us that eit- oh wait, yes they have.
I kind of expecting this to flare up because I haven't started a showcase...
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It's not that you don't have a showcase, I think it might be - as Kujii said - the lack of knowledge about the lurker. Generally, a newcomer's opinion needs a bit of work, but it can sometimes be hard to determine who's been lurking for a while and who hasn't. It's a bit presumptuous, I know, but that seems to be how it happens.
I think you're right about singling out members to deny them rep privlieges. Given the Drama Queen tendencies, you will get some posts, or even threads, along the lines of "Why can't I rep? This is <expletive>, you obviously hate me", or things like that. That's the thing about it, the system will undoubtedly be abused much less, but we might end up with more bawwing. Though that's more of a job for the mods, if it does happen.
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and who are YOU again?
A secret lurker covering as an idiotic Lemon, any else you want to know?
I'd like to know entirely how a lurker actually expects people to respect thier opinion.
Its something I've never gotten, they post so little that noone knows them when they post, so almost noone agree's with the post.
I'm surprised no ones asked to deny us that eit- oh wait, yes they have.
I kind of expecting this to flare up because I haven't started a showcase...
I've been here 8 months and I only just got around to even proving I know how to build a operating robot. I assure you I did not Jump down your throat on the basis of if you had a showcase or not.
I think you're right about singling out members to deny them rep privlieges. Given the Drama Queen tendencies, you will get some posts, or even threads, along the lines of "Why can't I rep? This is <expletive>, you obviously hate me", or things like that. That's the thing about it, the system will undoubtedly be abused much less, but we might end up with more bawwing.
Undoubtedly the ones that tended to abuse the system the most are the ones likely to make such a thread. The Bawwing itself will help Acams figure out whom can/can't give rep.
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It's not that you don't have a showcase, I think it might be - as Kujii said - the lack of knowledge about the lurker. Generally, a newcomer's opinion needs a bit of work, but it can sometimes be hard to determine who's been lurking for a while and who hasn't. It's a bit presumptuous, I know, but that seems to be how it happens.
I think you're right about singling out members to deny them rep privlieges. Given the Drama Queen tendencies, you will get some posts, or even threads, along the lines of "Why can't I rep? This is <expletive>, you obviously hate me", or things like that. That's the thing about it, the system will undoubtedly be abused much less, but we might end up with more bawwing. Though that's more of a job for the mods, if it does happen.
I see where you're coming from, I've noticed that you always seem to answer people with a decent amount of logic which is something you don't see much on the internet these days.
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It's not that you don't have a showcase, I think it might be - as Kujii said - the lack of knowledge about the lurker. Generally, a newcomer's opinion needs a bit of work, but it can sometimes be hard to determine who's been lurking for a while and who hasn't. It's a bit presumptuous, I know, but that seems to be how it happens.
I think you're right about singling out members to deny them rep privlieges. Given the Drama Queen tendencies, you will get some posts, or even threads, along the lines of "Why can't I rep? This is <expletive>, you obviously hate me", or things like that. That's the thing about it, the system will undoubtedly be abused much less, but we might end up with more bawwing. Though that's more of a job for the mods, if it does happen.
I see where you're coming from, I've noticed that you always seem to answer people with a decent amount of logic which is something you don't see much on the internet these days.
Sadly you're right about that. I think the smaller a community is, the more logic there is with the members. But that's heading off-topic.
Kujii might be right about the bawwing helping determine who gets the privilege and who doesn't, but it's not really as simple as that. There are members who might question a decision to keep them from something, because they would like to help out with it, as opposed to those who complain purely for being excluded from it.
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The closure of this thread is 8 pages over due..
Now go outside and play instead of worrying about silly little numbers..