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Title: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: kill343gs on January 06, 2011, 11:12:37 PM
It's no secret that during these last few months, some really stupid stuff has been going happening on this website. I see the complaints all   the time, almost on a daily basis: "Posting quality has taken a   downturn," "This community has changed too much," whatever. I've heard   it all. Well guess what? Communities are guarenteed to change with time. That's a given. People leave, people change. It happens. It's a fact of   life and we all have to deal with it. But at the end of the day, this community still has some pretty awesome people in it. People I have tons   of respect for. More on that later.

A lot of you guys have been   around for a while. A few months or a year or two sure can seem like a long time, huh? Well guess what? If you came from the RA2 community that I come from, you guys wouldn't have lasted a week. If you think you all   bash Sparkey or LRA2 hard, you haven't seen anything. We used to run people out of town for some of the stuff I've seen on this forum these past few weeks. There's a few among you that could vouch for that, you just need to know who to ask. And my time (2006) wasn't even that long ago in retrospect, considering the 10th anniversary of the first Robot Arena game is sometime this year.

But times are different now. We're alot more lenient than we used to be, and for good reason. A game that hasn't changed in 8 years is pretty tough to keep a whole community   going around for an extended period of time. Why else do you think HX was so surprised to find us when he came back a week ago? Making people leave is no way to keep a group alive. Yes, that is why Sparkey is still here. And no, that isn't likely to change.

What does need to change is the way a lot of you act. In order for any of us to keep our   sanity in the end, this rubbish that goes on needs to stop right now.   I'm sure most of you can tell what that is, but for those of you who can't I will spell it out for you. I'll start with the biggest issue. Everything else pretty much ties into this:

Attention Seeking. I have seen enough of this in the past year to make my head spin. Yes, I understand it's human nature; but so aren't killing for food and reproduction, and you don't see me stabbing my brother every time I get hungry or having children with every woman who walks down the street.   Here's the deal; You can add to your Wiki page* or change your name and gender all you want, but it is absolutely NOT going to win you any more respect. Respect is something that you earn through your actions.
(*Look   at Clickbeetle or Firebeetle's wiki pages. You could very easily     argue that they are two of the greatest influences on this game of all     time, and their wiki pages are a couple short sentences long. Do you   see   them complaining? NO. )

Baww about it all you want. Make a few more "I'm leaving," "Thinking about leaving," "Should I stay here?" threads. People's opinions of you are not going to change until you change. If you keep posting trash like that all you are doing is digging yourself a bigger hole.

Likewise, spending all of your time on GTM in the Chatterbox or Playground is not helping any. Story time? I've literally never read a page of it, and I don't plan on changing that. If you don't think that you're respected enough or whatever, you're probably spending a bit too much time in there.

Not that building skill is the only thing that determines respect, I'm a   prime example of that. But honestly, be a little bit constructive once   in a while. Read a few showcases. Post a few replies, learn a little bit. The fact that Jonzu's awful thread got 20 pages in one day is   absolutely sickening to me. If you can't see something wrong with that, you must be blind. This is a website about a game, not a low-budget television soap opera.

And age is absolutely no excuse, either. I was 12 when I signed up on this site back in '06. I think Sage was about 13 when he signed up. The BeetleBros weren't that old, either. If you know that what you are doing is enough of a problem to make up an excuse for it, you know well enough to make the effort to work on fixing that problem.

I decided over a year ago that the only reason I still hung around here was for the community. I don't build anymore, not   that I was ever anything better than average. I ran out of ideas a long time ago, and I sure as heck am not capable of catching back up with   modern building. For some reason I have a hard time leaving places like this that meant so much to me behind. Doing it with my own forum hurt me enough, and it would hurt me a heck of a lot more than that to come back here someday and find out that this place went downhill. Now instead of coming back to nothing I'm watching it slip away in front of me. DO NOT make me regret that decision.

To sum up, the leniency we have is a good thing for reasons I already explained. If you want us to become more strict, we can do that as well. Either you people start fixing the problem or we will. The ball is in your court.
Title: Re: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Hydro on January 06, 2011, 11:17:51 PM
Noted.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 06, 2011, 11:30:44 PM
AKA: both of you (especially Kuiji) should either leave, either stop spending your time in the off topic section and contribute to the forums.

Build bots, be constructive, enter tournaments, give ideas, etc. It's not hard really.

This also goes for all people that spend their time in the off topic section.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Clickbeetle on January 06, 2011, 11:31:37 PM
kill343 asked me to post these guidelines I came up with as well.  I've noticed that most of the type of threads that people complain about and end up growing into 20+ page spam threads before finally being locked, are threads of a purely personal nature.


So here's a simple test you should all remember when you're about to post.  Pass the test and you will be just fine.


Before making a thread, ask yourself:
Who does the topic of this thread involve?


If the answer to that is "myself, and possibly my close relatives", and no one else on the forums, then ask yourself:
Why do other people need to know about this?


If the best answer you can come up with to that is, "because I need to tell them", then don't post.


Finally, ask yourself this for good measure:
"What kind of response do I expect to get from this thread?"


If the answer to that is "sympathetic well-wishes", "shock/horror", "anger/hatred", or any other kind of strong emotion, then don't post.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 06, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
So, to slightly Summarize, this means I should go away, instead of adding spice to the forums?

I personally have little to nothing, other then idle conversation and an entertaining (to most) form of spam, Hydro asked me here so he could witness it himself, and I believe he's put off showing me how to actually play the game.

Having been in a situation much like that with another forum, I fully understand if that's how you feel, and since your obviously a well enough respected member, I could leave if you wish me to.

 
 
That is not what he said......we just want you to keep playground IN PLAYGROUND!!!!
 
We want a "don't ask, don't tell" policy
 
If you want to leave, then leave, don't make a topic
If you are a girl, register as a girl in the first place
If you are gay, be gay.....just don't make a topic about it
 
Or make them in Playground where they belong, or will be INSTANTLY moved to from now on.
 
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ThisDude069 on January 06, 2011, 11:40:32 PM
Dually Noted

I apologize if I've seemed annoying, I'm just having a little fun in the chatterbox before I get some showcases up. I'm still learning the game, I'm anxious to play, I've just been having a little trouble gettin on the ole' PC. But I've got it running now, so, I'll probably be too busy building to be in the forums for a while.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 06, 2011, 11:43:40 PM
You can always create a showcase and ask for help. It will not only help your building, but make you more respected, if only for a bit.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Stagfish on January 07, 2011, 01:23:01 AM
Likewise, spending all of your time on GTM in the Chatterbox or Playground is not helping any. Story time? I've literally never read a page of it, and I don't plan on changing that. If you don't think that you're respected enough or whatever, you're probably spending a bit too much time in there.

Not that building skill is the only thing that determines respect, I'm a   prime example of that. But honestly, be a little bit constructive once   in a while. Read a few showcases. Post a few replies, learn a little bit. The fact that Jonzu's awful thread got 20 pages in one day is   absolutely sickening to me. If you can't see something wrong with that, you must be blind. This is a website about a game, not a low-budget television soap opera.

I think I said something like this once, but everyone got pissed and said that the chatterbox and playground keeps the forum alive or something like that.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 07, 2011, 01:44:06 AM
said that the chatterbox and playground keeps the forum alive or something like that.

Nonsense. We could very well GET ENTIRELY RID OF CHATTERBOX AND PLAYGROUND and the forum would still be active. Less, but still.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: JoeBlo on January 07, 2011, 01:55:02 AM
there is enough here to keep things alive

BBEANS AI
123 AI
SkAI High
Realism AI
Backlash

are examples of recent mods that are getting people into playing...

I think we should shrink the off topic section and ditch the playground myself
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Kujii on January 07, 2011, 01:56:27 AM
Chances are, you could.

Sure, some members would prolly completely vanish, but, those members contribute little to nothing any way.

Go for it.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: frezal on January 07, 2011, 02:22:07 AM
While I agree with the sentiments of Mr. kill343gs's post, I'm still going to spend most of my time in the Chatterbox. I have little to contribute in terms of actual RA2 discussions. I'm a relic of the past; obsolete, if you will. Building bots has gone from simple designs with a heavy focus on a cool paint job to seeing how many spikes can be shoved onto a bot. Oh well.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Clickbeetle on January 07, 2011, 02:35:39 AM
While I agree with the sentiments of Mr. kill343gs's post, I'm still going to spend most of my time in the Chatterbox. I have little to contribute in terms of actual RA2 discussions. I'm a relic of the past; obsolete, if you will. Building bots has gone from simple designs with a heavy focus on a cool paint job to seeing how many spikes can be shoved onto a bot. Oh well.


Doesn't mean you can't still be respected for building in the old way... see dragonsteincole.


Anyway, I don't really see a problem with off-topic dwellers as long as they stay on-topic in off-topic... if that makes sense.


Like Sparkey and Jonzu play RA2 and have a showcase and stuff (and in Jonzu's case is respected for his building), but both are much more of a troublemaker than you or even Kujii.


I think the main thing is that people need to learn what kind of stuff is OK to post and what kind of stuff should be kept to themselves.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Zog on January 07, 2011, 05:05:10 AM
Building bots has gone from simple designs with a heavy focus on a cool paint job to seeing how many spikes can be shoved onto a bot. Oh well.


Agreed 100%. I try and build in the "old style", as I was around back in those days, only for a brief period of time, though.


Whenever I build in stock, I don't just snapper tons of tris and irons onto a chassis, as it:
A) looks ugly
B) has no real thought to it. Anyone could build one.


Before making a thread, ask yourself:
Who does the topic of this thread involve?


If the answer to that is "myself, and possibly my close relatives", and no one else on the forums, then ask yourself:
Why do other people need to know about this?


If the best answer you can come up with to that is, "because I need to tell them", then don't post.


A definite must read for all people who, on a constant basis, post threads like that.


I've been guily of it once, but my reason was "because I need their advice." And because of that, I solved the problem.


However, I feel that Sparkles, Avalance, FAILTX, TX etc. won't read this, because they basically spend their life in the playground. But, as much as I loathe FAILTX, I still think he has decent bot building skill.



Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: JoeBlo on January 07, 2011, 05:57:35 AM
has no real thought to it. Anyone could build one.

ahahahahahaha

*looks through Pwns showcase*


Build one of those right now if its so easy :P
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 07, 2011, 06:00:17 AM
Yeah I don't think building a correct HW 36HS is so easy. It's mostly annoying, but without knowledge of glitches you cannot do it.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Jonzu95 on January 07, 2011, 06:14:31 AM
This thread made me thinking is it worth to do something like I did yesterday...
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Enigm@ on January 07, 2011, 06:26:24 AM
M'kay.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Natef on January 07, 2011, 07:09:24 AM
I read it, and agreed with the things said.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 07, 2011, 10:16:59 AM
This thread made me thinking is it worth to do something like I did yesterday...
Well duh.
Anyway, I hope people do read this and take note, lots of very good points and info there.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Zog on January 07, 2011, 12:57:50 PM
has no real thought to it. Anyone could build one.

ahahahahahaha

*looks through Pwns showcase*


Build one of those right now if its so easy :P


Ok, I will.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on January 07, 2011, 12:58:50 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to everyone for the "attention whoring" and how I have been acting for the past year.

Looking back at my early posts, I used to be so enthusiastic about RA2, but somehow that enthusiasm faded as time went on. I think the reasons behind this could be that I could never seem to build anything competitive, and I just ran out of my own ideas.

The truth is that I have secretly been working in RA2 on a few bots the past few days. I have even been tinkering with the Hurricane UI mod again (although I doubt that it will ever be released at this point as most will see a UI mod as useless).

The point is that I am trying to get back into the main forum. I hope that I haven't burned any bridges that cannot be rebuilt.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Zog on January 07, 2011, 01:02:36 PM
The only attention whoring which I recall was of you doing that suicide thread.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Gazea2 on January 07, 2011, 02:11:49 PM
I couldn't agree with you more, Kill. Some of the off-topic has gotten way out of hand.

there is enough here to keep things alive

BBEANS AI
123 AI
SkAI High
Realism AI
Backlash

are examples of recent mods that are getting people into playing...

*CoughRA2INBOWCough*
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Little lost bot on January 07, 2011, 02:15:00 PM
To sum up, the leniency we have is a good thing for reasons I already explained. If you want us to become more strict, we can do that as well. I really think there needs to be a crack down. With all this trolling   and attention seeking there needs to be a huge crack down. I'm   personally getting tired of seeing crap in almost every thread I go to.   Really when some one (or than one) start picking on another user. Yes   this or that don't help the community (eg other forms that others made   other games) but that happens. Its the way I see others posting in them   and treating the thread makers like crap! The amount of trolling and   bashing is out of control. So yes I want there to be rules and then   followed.

 Either you people start fixing the problem or we will. I really highly doubt some would fix there act on there own here. The mods Joe, Click, Kill (The ones off the top of my head and trust) need to crack down hard for some to learn. I know there busy enough already but either the mods crack down or I really doubt people here will clear up the act.

There needs to be rules set up for Chatter box and every single section. If those rules are not followed then temp ban and so on.

Sorry but I agree with Kill here 100% this place really does need to clear it up.

Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 07, 2011, 02:15:40 PM
I couldn't agree with you more, Kill. Some of the off-topic has gotten way out of hand.

there is enough here to keep things alive

BBEANS AI
123 AI
SkAI High
Realism AI
Backlash

are examples of recent mods that are getting people into playing...

*CoughRA2INBOWCough*

I've been slowly making a mod for months now :D
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: frezal on January 07, 2011, 02:30:38 PM
I couldn't agree with you more, Kill. Some of the off-topic has gotten way out of hand.

there is enough here to keep things alive

BBEANS AI
123 AI
SkAI High
Realism AI
Backlash

are examples of recent mods that are getting people into playing...

*CoughRA2INBOWCough*
Speaking of which, did I ever send you those disc skins?
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 07, 2011, 02:55:51 PM
I really think there needs to be a crack down. With all this trolling   and attention seeking there needs to be a huge crack down. I'm   personally getting tired of seeing crap in almost every thread I go to.   Really when some one (or than one) start picking on another user. Yes   this or that don't help the community (eg other forms that others made   other games) but that happens. Its the way I see others posting in them   and treating the thread makers like crap! The amount of trolling and   bashing is out of control. So yes I want there to be rules and then   followed.

There's too many sensible people here for anyone to get away with insulting another user/users for no reason.
The reason why these people end up being on the receiving end of this is because they've trolled/attention seeked or otherwise showed stupidity. It's these people (if any) that are the ones who should be on the receiving end of any punishment.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 07, 2011, 02:58:03 PM
Yeah... if the forum loses all it's active intelligent n00b whackers, then we will see stupid posts everywhere.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sage on January 07, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
Building bots has gone from simple designs with a heavy focus on a cool paint job to seeing how many spikes can be shoved onto a bot. Oh well.


Agreed 100%. I try and build in the "old style", as I was around back in those days, only for a brief period of time, though.


Whenever I build in stock, I don't just snapper tons of tris and irons onto a chassis, as it:
A) looks ugly
B) has no real thought to it. Anyone could build one.









Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 07, 2011, 03:07:38 PM
Building bots has gone from simple designs with a heavy focus on a cool paint job to seeing how many spikes can be shoved onto a bot. Oh well.


Agreed 100%. I try and build in the "old style", as I was around back in those days, only for a brief period of time, though.


Whenever I build in stock, I don't just snapper tons of tris and irons onto a chassis, as it:
A) looks ugly
B) has no real thought to it. [b]Anyone could build one
[/color].[/b]










I sincerely hope that was in a figurative sense.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 07, 2011, 03:10:24 PM
Yeah... if the forum loses all it's active intelligent n00b whackers, then we will see stupid posts everywhere.
Agreed, ofcourse.

Also, I have a strange feeling zog's put his foot in it somewhat  :ermm:
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: frezal on January 07, 2011, 03:11:27 PM
I love those maces! If I ever get RA2 installed again (which will probably happen whenever I get around to buying a new harddrive), I should actually read some tutorials on how to edit parts like that.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: G.K. on January 07, 2011, 03:14:06 PM
I don't know if there was ever a proper tutorial posted on changing the colour of stuff in the GMF.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sage on January 07, 2011, 03:15:25 PM
I love those maces! If I ever get RA2 installed again (which will probably happen whenever I get around to buying a new harddrive), I should actually read some tutorials on how to edit parts like that.

I actually gave them away as first prize to whoever won RAW 2. They were adapted from clickbeetle's silver mace on the champion sword. I think it was him or FB who actually figured out how to do it.

It's not changing the color at all, its more putting a reflective map on there (identical to the shiny hub) and then modifiying the generic_refmap2.bmp to be gold.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: J on January 07, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
I don't know if there was ever a proper tutorial posted on changing the colour of stuff in the GMF.
Because you have to download like 50+ things before you can fully edit some of the parts.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: G.K. on January 07, 2011, 03:16:22 PM
Erm... 2?
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Gazea2 on January 07, 2011, 03:27:56 PM
I couldn't agree with you more, Kill. Some of the off-topic has gotten way out of hand.

there is enough here to keep things alive

BBEANS AI
123 AI
SkAI High
Realism AI
Backlash

are examples of recent mods that are getting people into playing...

*CoughRA2INBOWCough*
Speaking of which, did I ever send you those disc skins?

Ooh, yes. I forgot to thank you for them. :)

I don't know if there was ever a proper tutorial posted on changing the colour of stuff in the GMF.

I could make one. I also have an awesome website that shows you the codes for different colours (credit to JoeBlo).
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Little lost bot on January 07, 2011, 04:00:06 PM
I really think there needs to be a crack down. With all this trolling   and attention seeking there needs to be a huge crack down. I'm   personally getting tired of seeing crap in almost every thread I go to.   Really when some one (or than one) start picking on another user. Yes   this or that don't help the community (eg other forms that others made   other games) but that happens. Its the way I see others posting in them   and treating the thread makers like crap! The amount of trolling and   bashing is out of control. So yes I want there to be rules and then   followed.

There's too many sensible people here for anyone to get away with insulting another user/users for no reason.
The reason why these people end up being on the receiving end of this is because they've trolled/attention seeked or otherwise showed stupidity. It's these people (if any) that are the ones who should be on the receiving end of any punishment.

I did not say which ones nor was pointing at any one directly. And as for the "Noob whackers" if they don't follow rules and keep breaking them then ban.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 07, 2011, 04:21:30 PM
I really think there needs to be a crack down. With all this trolling   and attention seeking there needs to be a huge crack down. I'm   personally getting tired of seeing crap in almost every thread I go to.   Really when some one (or than one) start picking on another user. Yes   this or that don't help the community (eg other forms that others made   other games) but that happens. Its the way I see others posting in them   and treating the thread makers like crap! The amount of trolling and   bashing is out of control. So yes I want there to be rules and then   followed.

There's too many sensible people here for anyone to get away with insulting another user/users for no reason.
The reason why these people end up being on the receiving end of this is because they've trolled/attention seeked or otherwise showed stupidity. It's these people (if any) that are the ones who should be on the receiving end of any punishment.

I did not say which ones nor was pointing at any one directly. And as for the "Noob whackers" if they don't follow rules and keep breaking them then ban.
I didn't say anything about you pointing that at any one in particular (although let's face it, it's never hard to guess if a comments being aimed at certain people here anyway).
And yes, everybody who doesn't follow the rules should face some sort of consequence (although out and out banning as you said just then is a dumb idea). But whacking n00b behaviour isn't really breaking any rules, for some people, it's just the normal way they act. And yes, while there will be other people on here who may just "whack" to try and fit in or because they're too stupid to form a personality themselves or whatever, as I said before, just because somebody is "whacking" people doesn't mean they should be punished, at any rate, the community will probably shun them if they're going around acting like that to everyone.
It was the attention whores more than anything that caused the problems.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 07, 2011, 04:31:52 PM
I think we should have every chatterbox thread be checked by a mod (heck I'll do it, I have the least amount of life (off track and parkour seasons) than anyone else here) before it's posted so we don't have anymore stupid "EYE HAWT U ALL" threads.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 07, 2011, 04:37:30 PM
I think we should have every chatterbox thread be checked by a mod (heck I'll do it, I have the least amount of life (off track and parkour seasons) than anyone else here) before it's posted so we don't have anymore stupid "EYE HAWT U ALL" threads.
Bad idea, leaves the door open for mass WAAAAAAAAAAHing and stupid threads from all angles.
Anyway, I don't think there's a problem with the system anyway.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scrap Daddy on January 07, 2011, 05:45:29 PM
Great thread kill, I've been thinking about writing something like this for a while, but have been too lazy. Half the people bitching and complaining about whacking OBVIOUSLY weren't on the old forum where there was actual flaming going on. One thing that I think is missing nowadays is respect. When I joined, I pretty much worshiped a lot of the veterans. I would be honored when somebody like Lugica, Inf, of Pyc would even say something nice about a bot I posted, but now none of this goes on...

Just my thoughts on the matter.



Also sage:
1. inf
2. r0b0
3. pyc
4. pwn
5. myself

:P
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: powerrave on January 07, 2011, 05:49:50 PM
i was on the old RA2 boards. i survived the c**p Inf gave me. don't see how the mild bashing on this forum can be any worse in any way.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 07, 2011, 06:13:17 PM
There needs to be rules set up for Chatter box and every single section. If those rules are not followed then temp ban and so on.

 
OH, well I don't think the problem is from Chatterbox........it is when you guys make a topic in Forum News.
 
 
I think we should have every chatterbox thread be checked by a mod (heck I'll do it, I have the least amount of life (off track and parkour seasons) than anyone else here) before it's posted so we don't have anymore stupid "EYE HAWT U ALL" threads.

 
Chatterbox is not the problem MORON......you are!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: System32 on January 07, 2011, 06:45:12 PM
I like this thread. It makes it all funnier when everybody forgets everything, Jonzu/FOTPEX/whoever begin spamming again, Sparky is harrased by people who have only been here a week and someone bawws about this community going in a sh**ter while spamming everywhere in the meantime.
 
tl;dr You idiots haven't learned sh** from this.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: GoldenFox93 on January 07, 2011, 06:52:22 PM
I like this thread. It makes it all funnier when everybody forgets everything, Jonzu/FOTPEX/whoever begin spamming again, Sparky is harrased by people who have only been here a week and someone bawws about this community going in a sh**ter while spamming everywhere in the meantime.
 
tl;dr You idiots haven't learned sh** from this.
I hate to say I agree, but...
 
...I agree    :laughing
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sage on January 07, 2011, 06:58:43 PM

Also sage:
1. inf
2. r0b0
3. pyc
4. pwn
5. myself

:P

do it do it do it. see if you can get it to work and not havok
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: JoeBlo on January 07, 2011, 08:30:07 PM
OH, well I don't think the problem is from Chatterbox........it is when you guys make a topic in Forum News.

change permissions so only staff can make new topics?

nobody else really needs to.. the only non staff ones are the im leaving or other attention whore threads
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 07, 2011, 09:01:48 PM
OH, well I don't think the problem is from Chatterbox........it is when you guys make a topic in Forum News.

change permissions so only staff can make new topics?

nobody else really needs to.. the only non staff ones are the im leaving or other attention whore threads

OH, well I don't think the problem is from Chatterbox........it is when you guys make a topic in Forum News.

 
I don't think the problem is from Chatterbox........it is when the guys make a topic in Forum News
 
Junkyard will stay as it is.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: JoeBlo on January 08, 2011, 03:02:09 AM
LOLWUT? you answered my post with the exact thing I was answering?

I meant the permissions for forum news.. you said that was the problem after all..

its either a topic made by staff or an attention whore one that gets posted in forum news

we don't need the latter in forum news so restrict privileges to staff only for making new topics..
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Zog on January 08, 2011, 04:34:32 AM
Also, I have a strange feeling zog's put his foot in it somewhat  :ermm:


Have I? Sorry for that then. I will not to do those posts again. Doesn't suit me.


@Sage and Joe - Ok, I made a mistake. We all do from time to time. I found it relatively easy the first time I built a tri-spinner bot in stock. Maybe there is more thought in it. I honestly don't care, as I don't build in stock.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 08, 2011, 04:54:00 AM
Not a tri-spinner, a QUAD spinner.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: JoeBlo on January 08, 2011, 05:00:53 AM
I believe he is referring to the Tribars when he says Tri-spinner...
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Zog on January 08, 2011, 06:03:21 AM
Correct. Sorry for any confusion there.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: TeamXtreemer on January 11, 2011, 11:07:02 AM
Guys, i know you dont carte what i have to say, but i just like to say one thing...


Even though you might not like the face, this game is a bargian bin game, it should have died out a long time ago, but the RA2 community is keeping this alive, all im asking is for everyone to respect eachother.

This aint a 'OH RESPECT ME IVE GAVE UP!' thing, this is a 'If we dont all get along this is gonna die'...

So listen if you want, or flame me, because i dont care, i just want everyone to respect everyone.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 11, 2011, 11:10:24 AM
That's pretty much what this is all about, but also remember, respect's something that's earned  ;)
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Jonzu95 on January 11, 2011, 11:32:58 AM
I agree with TX. We should all be huge Team, where everyone supports and helps eachother. I'm just a Punch-Bag and ACAMS's toy atm...
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Somebody on January 11, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
Guys, i know you dont carte what i have to say, but i just like to say one thing...


Even though you might not like the face, this game is a bargian bin game, it should have died out a long time ago, but the RA2 community is keeping this alive, all im asking is for everyone to respect eachother.

This aint a 'OH RESPECT ME IVE GAVE UP!' thing, this is a 'If we dont all get along this is gonna die'...

So listen if you want, or flame me, because i dont care, i just want everyone to respect everyone.

Without the red part, this is a good post. But you add that blatant attention whoring and it kinda ruins it. Be confident in what you are posting. And you brought that on yourself Jonzu.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: TeamXtreemer on January 11, 2011, 01:13:54 PM
i said the last bit just because i thought i was gonna get flamed.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 11, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
i said the last bit just because i thought i was gonna get flamed.

Bringing it up provokes it.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 11, 2011, 01:50:04 PM
Don't worry, if you're saying something intelligent or usefull, you shouldn't get flamed  ;)
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Somebody on January 11, 2011, 01:50:30 PM
Exactly
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 11, 2011, 03:26:04 PM
*drunken post*

OK, the part were we are supposed to be a big happy family is wishful thinking and unrealistic idealism. We are different people, with different opinions, morals and whatever. And we are too numerous to be really united. Due to different opinions/morals, conflict will ALWAYS arise.

Jonzu, I have no real grudge against you because you're a good enough builder, but you brought that on yourself due to attempting to lie to us. You acted foolishly by doing that, you know it, now you should understand the consequences of your acts.

TX, in this community, respect is earned. Mostly by good bot building, creative ideas and intelligent posts. And you have done nothing, or so few, to earn respect.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 11, 2011, 03:28:08 PM
Respect is earned, not given. But you won't earn it by begging for it

That might be the most intelligent  thing I've ever thought of.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on January 11, 2011, 03:33:02 PM
I agree with TX. We should all be huge Team, where everyone supports and helps eachother. I'm just a Punch-Bag and ACAMS's toy atm...


(http://www.housemusicdaily.com/2009/06/05/bawwwww.jpg)
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: kill343gs on January 11, 2011, 03:33:59 PM
I have spoken with Jonzu privately, it is being addressed. No need to beat that horse any further.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Jonzu95 on January 11, 2011, 03:34:41 PM
Nary, past is past. I have learned... Meh. I don't know what to write..

*thinks 10 seconds*

Past is Past, now I'll look forward to the future. I know I've been very childish, and I really need to act better. I hope what happened last week was my last "trick". If I do it again, I deserve to be banned.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 11, 2011, 03:42:33 PM
Nary, past is past. I have learned... Meh. I don't know what to write..

*thinks 10 seconds*

Past is Past, now I'll look forward to the future. I know I've been very childish, and I really need to act better. I hope what happened last week was my last "trick". If I do it again, I deserve to be banned.
ed.
Useless BAAAAAAAAW in

Not helping
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Jonzu95 on January 11, 2011, 03:45:09 PM
I was going to post the same...
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 11, 2011, 03:54:45 PM
I somehow  got distracted. I meant to say the baw was in red, and the rest was good.

 
I read it before you changed it......congratulations.....you just joined the Nobody rank....next is banned!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 11, 2011, 03:56:58 PM
Drunken Nar! YAY!!!

...Anyway, to be fair if we all got along better, there would probably be less squables.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 11, 2011, 03:57:39 PM
I deleted that post for a reason. In case you hadn't noticed, I apologized and I have been defending jonzu since this started. go ahead and ban me, no one would care.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 11, 2011, 03:58:59 PM
And this is why i respect our dutiful admin. Though if he was just really heartless it would be even funnier.

go ahead and ban me, no one would care.

You are playing with fire nuclear weaponry at the moment...

Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Scorpion on January 11, 2011, 04:00:05 PM
Come on Cory, there's no need for that, just suck it up and get on with things ;P
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 11, 2011, 04:01:29 PM
I deleted that post for a reason. In case you hadn't noticed, I apologized and I have been defending jonzu since this started. go ahead and ban me, no one would care.

You stick you nose into EVERYTHING....you will stay like that....OR EVEN MORE limited until you learn how to act.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 11, 2011, 04:01:44 PM
Well, diverting this topic from me. I'm glad that Jonzu was able to admit it. I respect his apologies because it sounds like he'll improve.
You stick you nose into EVERYTHING....you will stay like that....OR EVEN MORE limited until you learn how to act.
I'll keep my ass out of the Technical section, OK? I don't know much about computers so I don't belong there

Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Incredirobotwars on January 16, 2011, 03:53:13 PM
This is what happens when I turn my back for a week. Sparkey makes 10 attention threads, gets banned, unbanned again, limited, etc. etc.

It happens all the time, and the only reason I can think of for Sparkey's constant 'trouble-making' is the same as that of someone my mum knows. He constantly got into trouble so that his dad would beat him black and blue. The guy did this because the beating was the only attention he ever got from his dad.

...

That or Sparkey's an annoying prat who deserves it.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: G.K. on January 16, 2011, 03:55:04 PM
Hey, IRW, the blame isn't just on sparkey. FOTEPX, TX, Jonzu and others are at fault too.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Incredirobotwars on January 16, 2011, 03:56:59 PM
They don't do it all the time, though. FOTEPX can be an utter bastard at times, and Jonzu sometimes wants attention, too. Now, TX...I can't think of as an attention whore, and doesn't often become at fault.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 16, 2011, 03:57:34 PM
Jonzu is OK... just acting stupid sometimes.

TX, Sparkey and FOTEPX however can be banned without great loss to the community.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Stagfish on January 16, 2011, 03:59:01 PM
IRW, you obviously missed the flame war TX started.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: G.K. on January 16, 2011, 04:00:22 PM
They don't do it all the time, though. FOTEPX can be an utter bastard at time. Now, TX...I can't think of as an attention whore, and doesn't often become at fault.

You've missed some stuff that was deleted that would change your opinion. They, although they don't do it all the time, are as much as fault as sparkey and jonzu for this thread.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Incredirobotwars on January 16, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
I told you that I was away for a week.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 04:05:54 PM
A massive flame war started when LDL spammed my forum, and then when TX called my mom a whore on facebook. I didn't do anything wrong that time, I just got mad because my forum was thrashed then TX got involved with his sh**

@Naryar what happened to you not hatting my guts?
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: System32 on January 16, 2011, 04:07:22 PM
I told you that I was away for a week.

And as such you've missed a lot of crap.
 
WHY THE HELL ISN'T HE OFFLINE?
 
Log out and take your punishment already, you don't want a permaban!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 16, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
@Naryar what happened to you not hatting my guts?

Yet again, you over-dramatize and fail to understand. I do not hate anybody on this forum and I already said it, hate is an error. All am I saying is that this community would be more peaceful without you.

Don't take it as a personal attack because it is not. It is merely a simple statement after months of seeing you in action.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
@Naryar what happened to you not hatting my guts?

Yet again, you over-dramatize. I do not hate anybody on this forum and I already said it, hate is an error. All am I saying is that this community would be more peaceful without you.

Don't take it as a personal attack because it is not. It is merely an observation after months of seeing you in action.

I guess you're right. I do have anger issues and I am a natural trouble maker, maybe I should seek counselling.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: freeziez on January 16, 2011, 04:25:25 PM
Log out and take your punishment already, you don't want a permaban!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 04:26:00 PM
I haven't been banned.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Naryar on January 16, 2011, 04:26:48 PM
Log out and take your punishment already, you don't want a permaban!

Sparkey will not log out until he wants to or is banned. I am fairly sure he will not get banned right now.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Jonzu95 on January 16, 2011, 04:27:40 PM
When I noticed that lloopp got banned, that made my day. Seriously, you may haven't noticed, but lloopp is in the same boat like TX, Sparkey and FOTEPX. Well, almost. But he deserved it. This was my opinion.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 04:28:15 PM
When I noticed that lloopp got banned, that made my day. Seriously, you may haven't noticed, but lloopp is in the same boat like TX, Sparkey and FOTEPX. Well, almost. But he deserved it. This was my opinion.
Yeah, because I spammed his forums, Ritta.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: madman3 on January 16, 2011, 04:36:17 PM
For gods sake, this is not the thread to discuss this. I'd delete the last two pages.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Urjak on January 16, 2011, 04:38:41 PM
Wait... lloop got banned?
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: madman3 on January 16, 2011, 04:39:52 PM
Wait... lloop got banned?
For spamming Sypher's forum and them crying at us about being banned.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: System32 on January 16, 2011, 04:54:25 PM
Log out and take your punishment already, you don't want a permaban!

Sparkey will not log out until he wants to or is banned. I am fairly sure he will not get banned right now.

He has been, he's just keeping tabs open to avoid the ban registering.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 05:17:36 PM
No, I logged out.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: System32 on January 16, 2011, 05:33:33 PM
Log out all your tabs then.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 16, 2011, 05:41:44 PM
If he was banned, he would get it when he changed pages.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: System32 on January 16, 2011, 05:42:45 PM
If he was banned, he would get it when he changed pages.

Perhaps kill didn't do it right.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 16, 2011, 05:43:34 PM
Or at all
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 16, 2011, 05:44:41 PM
He has been warned....and better toe the mark or I will ban him!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 05:49:34 PM
For good? It was wrong of me to spam LDL but I was sick of what he did to me.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 05:56:16 PM
I kinda need to send PMs, 123 was going to help me with a custom part I was making
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 16, 2011, 06:58:19 PM
Saying you are sorry does nothing but pisssss me off, I don't care!
 
I want you to quit acting like an idiot, or you will be banned!
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 07:01:58 PM
Saying you are sorry does nothing but pisssss me off, I don't care!
 
I want you to quit acting like an idiot, or you will be banned!

I understand that now Like I said, I need counseling and will probably seek some. Honestly I can't see why you haven't banned me already.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 07:02:10 PM
Saying you are sorry does nothing but pisssss me off, I don't care!
 
I want you to quit acting like an idiot, or you will be banned!
I understand that now Like I said, I need counseling and will probably seek some. Honestly I can't see why you haven't banned me already.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Somebody on January 16, 2011, 07:34:46 PM
Where did you see that lloopp was banned? It doesn't show up on any of his posts? (IIRC It says "Banned" for his title).
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 07:36:44 PM
Somebody can you make a steam account? I can't PM you
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on January 16, 2011, 07:38:31 PM
Somebody can you make a steam account? I can't PM you

Would someone please explain to Sparkles why that is a fail statement?
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: ACAMS on January 16, 2011, 07:40:46 PM
I kinda need to send PMs, 123 was going to help me with a custom part I was making

Somebody can you make a steam account? I can't PM you

 
You should have not been spamming everybody......get msn messenger, or some other messenger service.
Title: Re: PLEASE READ: Personal Address to the RA2 Community
Post by: Sparkey98 on January 16, 2011, 07:47:37 PM
Fine. I'll just start ignoring people, but the one thing that ticks me off is CONTENTLY being called an idiot.