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Title: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: nightcracker on June 23, 2011, 09:28:25 AM
As suggested by many, I'm applying to be "Tech Adviser".

Some people supporting me (PM me if you think I falsely quoted you and you don't support me at all):

nightcracker should become quickest Tech Adviser in history of GTM! I'm callin it!

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but what is a tech adviser, what does it mean on these forums?

Tech advisers are the absolute brains of the forum.  They understand all that coding voodoo and partake in binary-talk witchcraft.

It is really only a matter of hours time before you become one as well.

Anyone wanna make an NC4TA (nightcracker for Tech Advisor) badge? :P

Oh and apparently people want me as Tech Adviser :)
You sure do merit that title.

Disclaimer:
I added a poll only to see the opinion of the community. If voting like this is not the way it goes at GTM then please consider this thread as never posted.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on June 23, 2011, 09:37:13 AM
Yes, And you will here from me alot. I suggest you join with Craaig. Hes pretty good to.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: cephalopod on June 23, 2011, 09:39:31 AM
I suggest you join with Craaig. Hes pretty good to.


Lol no, I don't do anything technical, I just have the patience to explain what others may not.


But YES to NC as TA
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on June 23, 2011, 09:40:39 AM
Well you still are the Tech God to me.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: FOTEPX on June 23, 2011, 09:41:04 AM
But YES to NC as TA

^QFT^
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: JoeBlo on June 23, 2011, 10:30:27 AM
Now im not condemning any ideas here and interested in hearing everyone's thoughts.. as my "mentor" says "input is appreciated, so lets have some food for thought"..

Does Tech Adviser apply in general or specific to RA2 ?

In general it appears so that NC (though cant quite find the right section to post in :P I kid, I kid) would deserve the title..

But if was to be thrown into the RA2 tech support section.. could he come up with an answer for a significant amount of queries, the same way as Trov or Serge can ?

If the answer is yes, then by all means, if the answer is no.. well you can see where im heading.

Though I dont doubt the fact you will get there soon, there is no need to jump the gun.. If you can understand with the title means a huge increase in RA2 questions being fired at you..
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on June 23, 2011, 10:33:29 AM
If he gets Tech Adviser, Can I have, Forum Bastard or Forum Idiot or somthing like that?
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Vertigo on June 23, 2011, 10:35:56 AM
lol
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Badnik96 on June 23, 2011, 10:43:12 AM
Joe's response looks like the best here.

But yeah, one day we'll see NC's name in... What color is that again?
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: ty4er on June 23, 2011, 11:27:56 AM
I voted no (dunt kill me D:) because for me it seems that he has been here for too short a time.
It may just be me but most of the others have been here for a while and know loads of it and have seen RA2 evolving.

Or not :P
But if you guys think it's a good idea then go for it
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: NFX on June 23, 2011, 11:44:53 AM
I'm afraid I voted No as well. Same reasons as Tyler and Joe, really. There's no doubting that you're a very skilled programmer and such, but I don't think you've had the same kind of experience with RA2 as guys like Serge and Trovaner have. In time, you definitely will get that title, but I think you might be going for it a touch too early at the moment.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Vertigo on June 23, 2011, 11:56:13 AM
Same, just seems a bit too early
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Naryar on June 23, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
Voted no as well, and for the same reasons Joe and Craaig did. But I am most certainly not just following the new trend of voting "no" that Joey just started.

That is too early, while the guy looks like a skilled programmer and we rarely get skilled/clever newbies, you will need more experience about RA2 to be worth Tech Adviser.

Plus, why are you applying ? The staff will judge your work in time and will give you your title if they feel you deserve it. People don't "apply" for positions here, exceptions being when the staff asks for one (example would be Kill343).

AKA: Nightcracker, you are being too eager and too quick in your rise to power.

If he gets Tech Adviser, Can I have, Forum Bastard or Forum Idiot or somthing like that?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DiggingYourselfDeeper (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DiggingYourselfDeeper)
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: 123savethewhales on June 23, 2011, 12:51:34 PM
Vote no

Yes I did browse through all 8 pages of his history.  I just can't find anything involving serious RA2 mechanics testing, insights in modding/gmf, or RA2 programming (written software/tinker with exe/etc).  Like I see Autohotkey related stuff, but that's not really programming.

I expect GTM Tech Advisers to know more about programming and the workings of this game than I do.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Urjak on June 23, 2011, 12:58:45 PM
That is too early, while the guy looks like a skilled programmer and we rarely get skilled/clever newbies, you will need more experience about RA2 to be worth Tech Adviser.


My opinion as well.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Noodle on June 23, 2011, 01:12:27 PM
Why don't we get Serge's opinion on it (him being a Tech at the moment)?
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: freeziez on June 23, 2011, 01:13:47 PM
I voted Yes, haters.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Naryar on June 23, 2011, 01:17:14 PM
haters

What hate ?

If you expect us to hate him just because we voted "no" then your mind needs to expand a bit. I don't hate him personally. I find him a possibly valuable addition to this community, and that is all.

Of course, they might be some people that actually secretly hate him here for some dumb reason (jealousy, rising star, etc...), though that theory doesn't just sound reasonable.

Oh, and why even make a vote ? The staff will decide, not the plebs.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: 123savethewhales on June 23, 2011, 01:45:28 PM
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!!!!!!!

Why do Naryar always got these weird responses?

I "DEMAND" RA2 Technical Advisers to be some Outcast Geeks who's first language is programming.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Naryar on June 23, 2011, 01:47:56 PM
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!!!!!!!

Why do Naryar always got these weird responses?

I "DEMAND" RA2 Technical Advisers to be some Outcast Geeks who's first language is programming.

Why do you over-act so ?

Also, why are my responses weird ?
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Scorpion on June 23, 2011, 01:49:20 PM
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!!!!!!!

Why do Naryar always got these weird responses?

I "DEMAND" RA2 Technical Advisers to be some Outcast Geeks who's first language is programming.

Why do you over-act so ?

Also, why are my responses weird ?
Because you never use question marks or exclamation marks properly!
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Enigm@ on June 23, 2011, 01:49:36 PM
I voted Yes, haters.
you mad
I voted yes but I dunno now.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Naryar on June 23, 2011, 01:52:14 PM
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!!!!!!!

Why do Naryar always got these weird responses?

I "DEMAND" RA2 Technical Advisers to be some Outcast Geeks who's first language is programming.

Why do you over-act so ?

Also, why are my responses weird ?
Because you never use question marks or exclamation marks properly!

You will have to explain that. Is that about that blank space between a word and an interrogation/exclamation point ?
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Scorpion on June 23, 2011, 01:54:20 PM
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!!!!!!!

Why do Naryar always got these weird responses?

I "DEMAND" RA2 Technical Advisers to be some Outcast Geeks who's first language is programming.

Why do you over-act so ?

Also, why are my responses weird ?
Because you never use question marks or exclamation marks properly!

You will have to explain that. Is that about that blank space between a word and an interrogation/exclamation point ?
Yep ! ! !
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Naryar on June 23, 2011, 01:58:59 PM
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!!!!!!!

Why do Naryar always got these weird responses?

I "DEMAND" RA2 Technical Advisers to be some Outcast Geeks who's first language is programming.

Why do you over-act so ?

Also, why are my responses weird ?
Because you never use question marks or exclamation marks properly!

You will have to explain that. Is that about that blank space between a word and an interrogation/exclamation point ?
Yep ! ! !
You want to know? It is how we write in French, if you want to know . and I have no desire to change it because it doesn't change the meaning of my sentences, neither do changing such a minor detail has any rational use !

I also have a feeling your point isn't 123's. I somehow doubt he should be bothered by improper english grammar  !
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on June 23, 2011, 02:00:18 PM
Guys let off him.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Scorpion on June 23, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
Guys let off him.
Nobody is on him, everybody was simply stating their own opinions on the matter.
If you interpret constructive critisicm like that as having a go at somebody, you need to grow a thicker skin....
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: 123savethewhales on June 23, 2011, 02:03:33 PM
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!!!!!!!

Why do Naryar always got these weird responses?

I "DEMAND" RA2 Technical Advisers to be some Outcast Geeks who's first language is programming.

Why do you over-act so ?

Also, why are my responses weird ?
Lol maybe I under-act if I didn't manage to lighten up the mood with that post.

Your posts are weird because they always revolve about accusations of what "others" might do, following by you trying to deny it.  But given you come up with all those things it is only rational to infer that the "others" you accused is actually you.  The ultra seriousness to a lighthearted humor also doesn't help.

Just think about things this way.  90% of the people spend too much time thinking about what others think of them.  But the truth is nobody pays attention to other people to begin with because they are so focus on their own image.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on June 23, 2011, 02:04:11 PM
Guys let off him.
If you interpret constructive critisicm like that as having a go at somebody, you need to grow a thicker skin....
That sentence makes no sence to me.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Scorpion on June 23, 2011, 02:05:48 PM
Guys let off him.
If you interpret constructive critisicm like that as having a go at somebody, you need to grow a thicker skin....
That sentence makes no sence to me.
Read moar
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Naryar on June 23, 2011, 02:18:11 PM
Lol maybe I under-act if I didn't manage to lighten up the mood with that post.

Your posts are weird because they always revolve about accusations of what "others" might do, following by you trying to deny it.  But given you come up with all those things it is only rational to infer that the "others" you accused is actually you.  The ultra seriousness to a lighthearted humor also doesn't help.

I am simply trying to give a possible reaction that other people could have. Granted it's a bit of a wacky theory, why would anyone hate that guy. You know, things that don't necessarily come out of your feelings, but just theories made up by your mind. If I hated him I would state it, plain and simple, or would try to attack him undercover in any way. I am not doing such things.

No, I don't hate him. What am I supposed to do, crack a bad joke to try to convince you about this ? Have I expressed hate towards this guy in any way ?
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: NFX on June 23, 2011, 02:22:09 PM
Guys let off him.
If you interpret constructive critisicm like that as having a go at somebody, you need to grow a thicker skin....
That sentence makes no sence to me.

It's like if you considered accidentally bumping into someone as an aggravated assault.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: 123savethewhales on June 23, 2011, 02:25:59 PM
Lol maybe I under-act if I didn't manage to lighten up the mood with that post.

Your posts are weird because they always revolve about accusations of what "others" might do, following by you trying to deny it.  But given you come up with all those things it is only rational to infer that the "others" you accused is actually you.  The ultra seriousness to a lighthearted humor also doesn't help.

I am simply trying to give a possible reaction that other people could have. Granted it's a bit of a wacky theory, why would anyone hate that guy. You know, things that don't necessarily come out of your feelings, but just theories made up by your mind. If I hated him I would state it, plain and simple, or would try to attack him undercover in any way. I am not doing such things.

No, I don't hate him. What am I supposed to do, crack a bad joke to try to convince you about this ? Have I expressed hate towards this guy in any way ?
You probably missed this part that I added in

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Just think about things this way.  90% of the people spend too much   time thinking about what others think of them.  But the truth is nobody   pays attention to other people to begin with because they are so focus   on their own image.
Which means you don't actually have to convince "me" of anything since I am clearly the self absorb kind.  In fact, it's how much you try to defend yourself despite the lack of accusation that draws the attention.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: nightcracker on June 23, 2011, 04:57:46 PM
Alright, that's one heated discussion  :ermm:

I didn't want to cause trouble, nor a flamewar. And as I said in my first post, "If voting like this is not the way it goes at GTM then please consider this thread as never posted.", which seems true:

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The staff will judge your work in time and will give you your title if they feel you deserve it. People don't "apply" for positions here, exceptions being when the staff asks for one (example would be Kill343).
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Oh, and why even make a vote ? The staff will decide, not the plebs.

I have respect for all of your posts, and please don't consider what I'm going to say next as offense or something, I just would like to reply.

Yes I did browse through all 8 pages of his history.  I just can't find anything involving serious RA2 mechanics testing, insights in modding/gmf, or RA2 programming (written software/tinker with exe/etc).  Like I see Autohotkey related stuff, but that's not really programming.

I expect GTM Tech Advisers to know more about programming and the workings of this game than I do.

I'm sorry, I thought Tech Adviser was more general then just about RA2. You do seem to be a bit cautious about my "programming skills", perhaps these references will convince you (don't get me wrong, I don't like to brag, but I don't like to be seen n00b either): http://stackoverflow.com/users/565635/nightcracker#qpage_1-anpage_1-qsort_votes-ansort_votes, (http://stackoverflow.com/users/565635/nightcracker#qpage_1-anpage_1-qsort_votes-ansort_votes,) https://github.com/nightcracker/ncUI (https://github.com/nightcracker/ncUI) (horribly outdated UI for WoW, yes I played that)

Quote from: 123savethewhales
I "DEMAND" RA2 Technical Advisers to be some Outcast Geeks who's first language is programming.
In that case we're settled, because that's my first language.

(no 123savethewales, I have no grudge against you, just saw 2 posts I didn't like)

Quote from: Naryar
AKA: Nightcracker, you are being too eager and too quick in your rise to power.
Perhaps I was a bit quick with making this thread, but I'm certainly not eager for power. I'm just here to help and do my thing.

Quote from: GarvinTheGreat
Guys let off him.
They're not on me, they're critical, which is good. If they would be like "AWSUM LETS DO IT1!!!111!" with everyone the community would no doubt collapse.


Once again, sorry for creating such controversy (is that the correct word for this?).
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: NFX on June 23, 2011, 05:13:00 PM
I think controversy is a bit strong. It's more of a fairly heated debate.

It's great that you want to help out with the community and the game, there's not really been enough newcomers with that sort of intention. Plus it eases the burden of everyone else a little bit. But you are still something of an unknown quantity, you've only been here a couple of months, if that. Achieving custom titles normally takes quite a bit longer than that. I think I can say with confidence that you'll have Tech Advisor by the end of the year, though.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: nightcracker on June 23, 2011, 05:16:52 PM
you've only been here a couple of months

Weeks :)

Also, extremely offtopic and hijacking, but has anyone seen Serge lately? I've sent him a few PM's about the development of a new game but he doesn't seem to reply (or I'm doing something horribly wrong with sending the PM's because I don't see them in sent messages either).
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: NFX on June 23, 2011, 05:20:26 PM
It's your own thread, so I assume it's fine. =]

I'm guessing Serge has been busy with either some awesome piece of coding or some banal tax returns. Nothing in between. =P
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: 123savethewhales on June 23, 2011, 06:48:53 PM
Yes I did browse through all 8 pages of his history.  I just can't find anything involving serious RA2 mechanics testing, insights in modding/gmf, or RA2 programming (written software/tinker with exe/etc).  Like I see Autohotkey related stuff, but that's not really programming.

I expect GTM Tech Advisers to know more about programming and the workings of this game than I do.

I'm sorry, I thought Tech Adviser was more general then just about RA2. You do seem to be a bit cautious about my "programming skills", perhaps these references will convince you (don't get me wrong, I don't like to brag, but I don't like to be seen n00b either): http://stackoverflow.com/users/565635/nightcracker#qpage_1-anpage_1-qsort_votes-ansort_votes, (http://stackoverflow.com/users/565635/nightcracker#qpage_1-anpage_1-qsort_votes-ansort_votes,) https://github.com/nightcracker/ncUI (https://github.com/nightcracker/ncUI) (horribly outdated UI for WoW, yes I played that)
EDIT:  I take back everything I said.  Having another person to answer questions is always better than having another person that causes problems.  It's not like the title comes with anything other then workloads and annoyances.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on June 23, 2011, 08:18:15 PM
As contrived as this is going to sound, "It's not about the title, it's what you do with it."  I'm not going to change my opinion of you just because your name is a different colour, you've well enough convinced me of your expertise already with the Movepixel tool.

Understand that I'm not knocking you down for asking for a promotion, just assuring you that I'll still respect you even if it doesn't happen - I can see that a lot of people were pushing you into going for this, perhaps making it seem like more of a big deal than it really is. 

Besides, getting promoted is entirely up to the bureaucracy, it's irrelevant that the aye's have it in your poll.

You've got a unique name, unique avatar, you've made your mark with the movepixel tool, your tech knowledge makes me look like a caveman.  I'd wager that people will not soon forget you, and in my book that's something to be proud of.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: JoeBlo on June 23, 2011, 08:21:07 PM
I have a question..

Why is it, NC that you are so eager to become a Tech Adviser?

Just curious.. This is the first case of this request (normally its just bulk requests for Advanced user)
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Jack Daniels on June 23, 2011, 08:47:35 PM
I voted yes because I see no harm in it.  While NC is new, he does seem mature enough to handle the title without disrupting the forum and I think he has the potential to contribute in support of the title as well.  If he abuses it (can you really abuse being a tech advisor?)  we can just all rest assured with the age old prophecy:

"The ACAMS giveth. The ACAMS taketh away." 
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: ACAMS on June 23, 2011, 08:54:23 PM
I reserve the right to hand out all titles.
Technical adviser is one of the highest ranks available and can't be earned by one program or in just a few weeks, but you are defiantly on the list and this topic really didn't need to be started because it has already been considered. 
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Dexterhunter on June 23, 2011, 08:57:47 PM
/Implying that you need the title of Technical Adviser (or any special title for that matter) to be well respected, regarded as a person of virtue, or valued in this community.

Oh wait. Damn.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: nightcracker on June 24, 2011, 04:15:37 AM
I have a question..

Why is it, NC that you are so eager to become a Tech Adviser?

Oh I am not really eager for it. A lot of people suggested it and I was like "ah WTH why not". And I wasn't sure how to ask/apply/??? for it so I made this thread. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on June 24, 2011, 02:01:36 PM
Quote from: GarvinTheGreat
Guys let off him.
They're not on me, they're critical, which is good. If they would be like "AWSUM LETS DO IT1!!!111!" with everyone the community would no doubt collapse.
Not you, Nary. Anyway I think NC will be a good TA. However you are new here and it might be a year or so untill you become  TA. If even you do become TA. However we cannot decide if you will be TA. ACAMS and a few other mods will. Before you become TA, your gonna have to earn ACAMS respect.  One way to earn is respect is by not PMing him if you can be TA. Thats my advice.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: madman3 on June 24, 2011, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: GarvinTheGreat
Guys let off him.
They're not on me, they're critical, which is good. If they would be like "AWSUM LETS DO IT1!!!111!" with everyone the community would no doubt collapse.
Not you, Nary. Anyway I think NC will be a good TA. However you are new here and it might be a year or so untill you become  TA. If even you do become TA. However we cannot decide if you will be TA. ACAMS and a few other mods will. Before you become TA, your gonna have to earn ACAMS respect.  One way to earn is respect is by not PMing him if you can be TA. Thats my advice.
Very nice and extremely general advice. Of course, NC would not know this. :rolleyes:

@NC:
Really, all you need to do is get more into the modding aspect of RA2 specifically, as others have said.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Enigm@ on June 24, 2011, 04:26:01 PM
I think NC should learn how get GIF's as skins.
Then I think he should get it.
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Naryar on June 24, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
Quote from: GarvinTheGreat
Guys let off him.
They're not on me, they're critical, which is good. If they would be like "AWSUM LETS DO IT1!!!111!" with everyone the community would no doubt collapse.
Not you, Nary. Anyway I think NC will be a good TA. However you are new here and it might be a year or so untill you become  TA. If even you do become TA. However we cannot decide if you will be TA. ACAMS and a few other mods will. Before you become TA, your gonna have to earn ACAMS respect.  One way to earn is respect is by not PMing him if you can be TA. Thats my advice.
Very nice and extremely general advice. Of course, NC would not know this. :rolleyes:

I think you forgot [INCREDIBLYOBVIOUSSARCASM] tags
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: nightcracker on June 25, 2011, 04:50:09 AM
Yeah I was going to troll with this image, then decided not to, but now I'm going to do it anyway  :p

(http://www.nrdly.com/files/2011/04/captain_obvious_rock_gift.jpg)
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: Serge on July 02, 2011, 02:49:12 PM
you've only been here a couple of months

Weeks :)

Also, extremely offtopic and hijacking, but has anyone seen Serge lately? I've sent him a few PM's about the development of a new game but he doesn't seem to reply (or I'm doing something horribly wrong with sending the PM's because I don't see them in sent messages either).

I'm alive, we just seem to never be online at the same moment :(.
(also, my XMPP server is kind of wonky and doesn't always work)
Title: Re: NC as Tech Adviser
Post by: nightcracker on July 03, 2011, 09:55:08 AM
you've only been here a couple of months

Weeks :)

Also, extremely offtopic and hijacking, but has anyone seen Serge lately? I've sent him a few PM's about the development of a new game but he doesn't seem to reply (or I'm doing something horribly wrong with sending the PM's because I don't see them in sent messages either).

I'm alive, we just seem to never be online at the same moment :(.
(also, my XMPP server is kind of wonky and doesn't always work)

I'm not so sure about that, I've just been very inactive lately because of my exams.