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Site Information => Site News and Feedback => Topic started by: Trovaner on March 04, 2013, 07:50:09 PM
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Three questions:
1. Are there any links that are dead?
2. Are there any things that you don't use? (like the calendar, radio, arcade, or image gallery)
3. Do people really need playground? People keep getting in trouble for misbehaving on it and it has been corrupted by peoples' boredom, IMO. The actual content is already covered by the chatbox and chatterbox sections so I don't see any value in keeping it (some people like the unmoderated nature of it but it seems to be the source of many problems). I'm not dead set on sending it into the void yet but I would be happy to hear people's opinions on the matter.
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1. on the wiki, the sidebar's "Gametechmods.com" and "Mods & Patches" lead to the same place.
2. the radio and image gallery are broken. and i hardly use the mp3 player/uploader, but i know that the whole uploading aspect doesnt work.
3. if you get rid of playground i might DIE.....
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1) I don't want to be the one to answer that
2) Most of the Gadgets aren't used, or I don't think they are. The Calender is pointless because there is a calender on the home page, the arcades could use some new games (if that's possible), everybody uses the image host, I don't think anyone uses the image gallery, people use the file host, idk about the last 3 but I don't think they're used often.
3) I don't understand why it's there. Flaming should not be allowed if pornography isn't because the site is just as likely to get complaints about hurrcyberbullying, and Flaming is the only thing that I see fit for the Playground, because no one needs useless spam.
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I don't use the Image Gallery, MP3 Player/Uploader, the Radio, or the Media tab at the top; some of the smileys seem pretty useless as well e.g. the tanks. Also I think the Downloads tab and RA2 Downloads beside the Chatbox should be merged. Playground is just a less moderated Chatterbox, and that's why we love it!
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1. Joe's site is dead so anything he linked from it is down.
2. Don't use any of them, big smileys aren't really needed IMO.
3. I don't care for playground... it seems like a place to just go and misbehave and it causes a lot of people to get upset/mad and perhaps ragequit (even I've been there), we really don't want that with this small community... more members the better plus it might repel new members from joining.
Playground also has the potential (if it hasn't done it already) to spill over into the main forum and effect forum relations, causing hostility from people against others.
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Three questions:
1. Are there any links that are dead?
None that I've noticed.
2. Are there any things that you don't use? (like the calendar, radio, arcade, or image gallery)
I use none of the above
3. Do people really need playground? People keep getting in trouble for misbehaving on it and it has been corrupted by peoples' boredom, IMO. The actual content is already covered by the chatbox and chatterbox sections so I don't see any value in keeping it (some people like the unmoderated nature of it but it seems to be the source of many problems). I'm not dead set on sending it into the void yet but I would be happy to hear people's opinions on the matter.
As a moderator I hate the playground because it creates more problems than it solves and no matter what the things that happen in there spill out to the rest of the forum. Just because sh**posting doesn't happen elsewhere (in theory) doesn't mean opinions of people don't carry over due to their actions.
However as a user the playground /can/ be funny at times.
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Delete playground and i will love you forever
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1. Some links in the home page
2. I don't really use them. Image gallery is Good but it doesn't show the small preview pictures if the file is .png
3. In my opinion, the playground makes things only worse. I would get rid of it.
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3) I don't understand why it's there. Flaming should not be allowed if pornography isn't because the site is just as likely to get complaints about hurrcyberbullying, and Flaming is the only thing that I see fit for the Playground, because no one needs useless spam.
I think it was originally put there by ACAMS for forum games (stuff like Caption the Picture, or Comment on the Person Above You, as well as some RPs), but people took it as more of a 'no rules' area, presumably it's only purpose now is to keep rubbish in there and nowhere else... plus there is a reason why it is hidden by default.
To be honest everything there seemed to only get worse as time went on, until it was carpet bombed by ACAMS. It seems to have lost all point now, especially since there are probably only about 3-5 people that post there with any frequency. I doubt too many people will mourn its loss other than people who are self proclaimed 'master ruseman', but then again, they have a Skype group for most things that would be posted in Playground anyway (and I'm pretty sure most of it does get put in there).
I'm sure that the generic argument would be 'well, if you don't like it, block the board', but if everyone did that, then there would probably just be four people posting about stuff that nobody apart from them cares about, and anyone they would be trying to get to wouldn't be affected at all. And, to be fair, I don't think that most new members actually find it anyway, unless they were told about it previously, or eventually get told about it by another member.
To be honest, I don't really care whether it gets deleted or not, but it does seem rather pointless as a board now, and with the new rules that are coming, it would probably be just like Chatterbox anyway.
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1. Probably. The RA2 download link was broken, but that seems to be fixed now.
2. I actually use none of those, except the arcade occasionally.
3. The drama and stupidity are what make playground fun. Hell, that's like 80% of the reason I stick around this place. People who want to get rid of it are just butthurt. If they have legitimate issue with it, they already have the option of disabling their ability to view it.
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The arcade is fun every now and again, but I think we do need more games. Everything else can go as long as that, the Image Uploader and File Hosts stay (unless they are all redirected to other places, like imgur.com)
The playground? There is no use for it nowadays.. it really is covered by Chatterbox/Off Topic. It's a load of flamebait. Guess I must be butthurt :P
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I find it funny that people defending playground come in here and act childish saying we are all just butthurt... Hello that attitude is the main problem and you come here and display it in front of the rest of the forum, seems like an easy decision for Trov if you all want to act that way on the whole forum.
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I find it funny that people defending playground come in here and act childish saying we are all just butthurt... Hello that attitude is the main problem and you come here and display it in front of the rest of the forum, seems like an easy decision for Trov if you all want to act that way on the whole forum.
The whole point of playground is to keep it away from the rest of the forum, silly, and there's seriously no reason to complain when you can block yourself from seeing the playground at any time. Thus, if you get upset about the playground, it's your own fault; thus you are indeed butthurt.
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Soon™ :popcorn
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You guys know that if we loose the Playground, at least half of GTM's members will disappear, right?
Sure its a train wreck, but at least it gives us something to do.
Since, you know, 90% of GTM has creator's-block when it comes to RA2(heh...)
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You guys know that if we loose the Playground, at least half of GTM's members will disappear, right?
Impossible.
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You guys know that if we loose the Playground, at least half of GTM's members will disappear, right?
Impossible.
How so?
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You guys know that if we loose the Playground, at least half of GTM's members will disappear, right?
Impossible.
How so?
Max. few members will leave, because Playground is so useless. We're here to post RA2 related stuff, not sh**.
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You guys know that if we loose the Playground, at least half of GTM's members will disappear, right?
Impossible.
How so?
Max. few members will leave, because Playground is so useless. We're here to post RA2 related stuff, not sh**.
YOU KNOW THE IRONY OF YOUR POST IS AMAZING. Just sayin'
But still, a lot of us have creator's-block, or at least, imply it.
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You guys know that if we loose the Playground, at least half of GTM's members will disappear, right?
Impossible.
How so?
Max. few members will leave, because Playground is so useless. We're here to post RA2 related stuff, not sh**.
YOU KNOW THE IRONY OF YOUR POST IS AMAZING. Just sayin'
But still, a lot of us have creator's-block, or at least, imply it.
I may spend time a lot in the offtopic sections, but I haven't stopped playing RA2.
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Even though I have junkyard/playground stuff blocked I do like that it gives miscreants a different place to goof off and not clutter up the main boards with crap. As far as the "spill over" effect, if the playground was closed people would find different areas on the internet to stir each other up and bring it over here (farcebook, yootube, etc etc) I think that's inevitable really. We just need to keep the moderation team strong and mature to combat it on the main boards.
However, if it is taking too much effort to moderate the playground, by all means nuke it. Really all depends on manpower and ambition in that case.
The arcade lost its charm for me when Serge proved that it could be easily hacked.
The Music player lost its charm for me when it took several minutes to upload a song... and it's totally unversatile. I can't play a genre or specify anything really... so its a mix of good/crap.
The calendar seems useless really.
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I'm more or less trying to figure out what can be removed to make room for new features. It is kind of pointless of maintaining things that aren't used and the time is better spent creating new features. I've been aware of the image gallery broken ever since the wiki's update but I was trying to gauge its use by the number of complaints that I got (absolutely none).
As far as other issues go, the profile pictures haven't shown up on the wiki since the update but nobody has said anything about this (although, I plan to fix it when I have time).
Junkyard accounts for a majority of the posts on GTM so I don't plan to remove it entirely. Its just Playground that is causing issues ATM. Just to clarify, I haven't instated any new rules for this section but I have started enforcing the old ones.
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Junkyard accounts for a majority of the posts on GTM so I don't plan to remove it entirely. Its just Playground that is causing issues ATM. Just to clarify, I haven't instated any new rules for this section but I have started enforcing the old ones.
I think part of that issue might be members like Noodle, who are going to spam it regardless.
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You guys know that if we loose the Playground, at least half of GTM's members will disappear, right?
Impossible.
How so?
Max. few members will leave, because Playground is so useless. We're here to post RA2 related stuff, not sh**.
You realize that 80% of the older members don't even play RA2 anymore, right?
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But still, a lot of us have creator's-block, or at least, imply it.
so youve had builders block for the past 5 months?
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Builders block is just an excuse, why not do something else with the game instead of being children in playground? Mod/skin an arena, create an AI pack, host a tournament, create some components, make a tutorial...be useful..
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Builders block is just an excuse, why not do something else with the game instead of being children in playground? Mod/skin an arena, create an AI pack, host a tournament, create some components, make a tutorial...be useful..
Ian, motivation is the keyword.... Sadly.
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I've been building AW's the past 3+ years, still no builders block, I have a number of AI packs I'm working on and I'm also going to host a tournament soon. Surely you guys can do something more then just screwing around in playground.
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some of us can't record tournaments or dont have enough bots/time for an ai pack and actually want to build a new bot instead of sticking different weapons onto the same robot :V
also i say we keep playground. if you guys are too offended by it, you can always leave. i dont see why its being such a problem now
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I would just spilt the Junkyard group membership into 2. One for Playground and one for Chatterbox and Politics.
some of us can't record tournaments or dont have enough bots/time for an ai pack
By this he means he never learned to AI :dumb)
actually want to build a new bot instead of sticking different weapons onto the same robot :V
Yeah it's not like DSL isn't just putting weapons on the same 2x2 chassis.........
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I would just spilt the Junkyard group membership into 2. One for Playground and one for Chatterbox and Politics.
I think this is a good idea, if we split Playground off to itself and defaulted everyone to non-members, then anyone that wants to be there can, rather than other people like me who like Chatterbox but don't really like the whole Playground thing. Also if this happened, Off-Topic Discussiom could be removed since Chatterbox and OTD would serve the same purpose.
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I accidentally cleared Chatterbox instead of Off-Topic Discussion but I'll restore if if people want get specific topics transfered over (I personally prefer that you start new ones but I'll do it if I have to).
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Junkyard accounts for a majority of the posts on GTM so I don't plan to remove it entirely. Its just Playground that is causing issues ATM. Just to clarify, I haven't instated any new rules for this section but I have started enforcing the old ones.
That is just it ..... there are none .... if you banned HA for posting penis in Playground, then I need to be banned for posting female genitals. (I am not a foggot like him and Noodle!)
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I can imagine there will be some requests of General Chatter Thread to be restored and transferred. Personally I don't mind starting a new one, but yeah.
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After looking through most of the chatterbox threads in the trash bin, I'm surprised that we had it to begin with. Many of the topics were posted in the wrong section and the ones that did fit the criteria of the board could have easily been put into the Off Topic Discussion board. I'm in the process of moving the more popular/meaningful threads so if a thread that you want to keep is missing, let me know ASAP.
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Ugh... I've made so many "good" threads to chatterbox but I can't simply remember them. D:
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The only worthwhile one I can think of would be GTM land.
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and the ones that did fit the criteria of the board could have easily been put into the Off Topic Discussion board.
Actually, I would say that is more down to the fact the most of the Chatterbox threads were made before Off Topic Discussion was even made (I think it was made late August last year because Ianh suggested it due to the fact that he wanted on Off Topic Board that could be posted in by people who deigned not to see Junkyard).
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I've restored Chatterbox for now... If you can't find a topic that was previously there, be sure to look for it in Off Topic Discussion and Playground.