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Off-Topic => Real Robotics => Robots Showcase => Topic started by: Natster-104 on June 13, 2014, 10:48:56 AM

Title: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 13, 2014, 10:48:56 AM
Yeah, I'm making a team :P
Got home, started work dissesembling this old remote control dalek and got some parts going:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/38004IMG_0244[1].jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30720Control Panel.jpg)

But I ran into a problem, my dads gonna try and help saw it off but is that the right course of action? will it damage the electronics?:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/32108Battery Box.jpg)

(Yup thats the battery box)

Anyway, any tips?

Also...


Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on June 13, 2014, 02:02:03 PM
I wouldnt advise using parts out of an rc dalek/whatever

also, dont be shy about your age, im building my first ant, and im 13 too :)

Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on June 13, 2014, 02:10:12 PM
really I wouldn't use anything from a toy to build a robot. Just scrap it and start fresh. I'm assuming you live in the UK, so I'd assume a 150g ant wedge probably won't be that expensive if you find materials yourself. Ask Plaz.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 13, 2014, 02:38:45 PM
I'm trying to create a £0 ant weight and get started with making robots, for my next I will do what you said. And thanks :)

Also, I'm gonna try and find some aluminium from a scrapyard to try and create the chassis, anyone know about any in Kent?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: martymidget on June 13, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
I'm trying to create a £0 ant weight and get started with making robots, for my next I will do what you said. And thanks :)

Also, I'm gonna try and find some aluminium from a scrapyard to try and create the chassis, anyone know about any in Kent?

Guess what county plaz lives in ;)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 13, 2014, 03:03:49 PM
I'm trying to create a £0 ant weight and get started with making robots, for my next I will do what you said. And thanks :)

Also, I'm gonna try and find some aluminium from a scrapyard to try and create the chassis, anyone know about any in Kent?

Guess what county plaz lives in ;)
Really? I had no idea
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 13, 2014, 03:39:54 PM
So, I've got a few links but are there any British robotic sites? I need to see what there is that I need. Tweedy? Badnik?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on June 13, 2014, 04:02:26 PM
So, I've got a few links but are there any British robotic sites? I need to see what there is that I need. Tweedy? Badnik?
robotwars101.org (http://robotwars101.org)
fightingrobots.co.uk (http://fightingrobots.co.uk)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 13, 2014, 04:11:22 PM
So, I've got a few links but are there any British robotic sites? I need to see what there is that I need. Tweedy? Badnik?
robotwars101.org (http://robotwars101.org)
fightingrobots.co.uk (http://fightingrobots.co.uk)
Thanks a lot I really appreciate it  :smile:
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 13, 2014, 04:12:21 PM
botbitz has some great parts for uk ants

http://www.botbitz.com/ (http://www.botbitz.com/)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: cephalopod on June 13, 2014, 04:27:44 PM
You're going to have a bad time if you're trying to do this using the transmitter and receiver from a toy. Ants are cheap but there's always costs to starting up.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 13, 2014, 04:33:59 PM
craaig is right, the era of modded toys for use as combat robots ended years ago
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Tweedy on June 13, 2014, 05:56:33 PM
I'm trying to create a £0 ant weight and get started with making robots, for my next I will do what you said. And thanks :)

Also, I'm gonna try and find some aluminium from a scrapyard to try and create the chassis, anyone know about any in Kent?

Guess what county plaz lives in ;)
Really? I had no idea
Yeah, I'm on Sheppey if you know where that is. For ants there is a cost to build even the cheapest thing, you can build one for about £60 including radio.
Add me on skype since it's easier to talk on there and I can get you in contact with Haz so you have multiple sources for any help you may need.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 02:31:30 AM
You're going to have a bad time if you're trying to do this using the transmitter and receiver from a toy. Ants are cheap but there's always costs to starting up.
craaig is right, the era of modded toys for use as combat robots ended years ago
I'm not gonna enter it in any antweight tournaments, only fun side events in Robot wars live to get free seats  ;)
I'm trying to create a £0 ant weight and get started with making robots, for my next I will do what you said. And thanks :)

Also, I'm gonna try and find some aluminium from a scrapyard to try and create the chassis, anyone know about any in Kent?

Guess what county plaz lives in ;)
Really? I had no idea
Yeah, I'm on Sheppey if you know where that is. For ants there is a cost to build even the cheapest thing, you can build one for about £60 including radio.
Add me on skype since it's easier to talk on there and I can get you in contact with Haz so you have multiple sources for any help you may need.
Ahhh ok, I just wanted to get introduced with robotics and building, I've got a neat controller but I just need motors, batteries, a switch, a light and wheels.
Speaking of skype, Windows 8 skype is crap
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 12:07:25 PM
Rightyho, I have a little update;

getting some parts from Hobbyking, but I have a problem;

I have the 2.4 GHz Planel digital remote control that comes with the robot wars antweight kit, but would it work with any old 2.4 Ghz reciever? I have no clue
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: 090901 on June 14, 2014, 12:09:08 PM
Speaking of skype, Windows 8 skype is crap
If you are using the App version of Skype on Windows 8 and want a desktop version just download Skype for the desktop from the Skype website
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Speaking of skype, Windows 8 skype is crap
If you are using the App version of Skype on Windows 8 and want a desktop version just download Skype for the desktop from the Skype website
Nah, I got it sorted and know how to use it, it's fine
But I need the question answer
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 12:25:19 PM
DP:
This is what I'm on about:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83869Planel remote.jpg)

I can't find a receiver to match it on Hobbyking and if I do find a receiver; will the wiring match up with the other parts on Hobbyking? Or does it not matter what 2.4 GHz receiver I have
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Tweedy on June 14, 2014, 12:29:20 PM
Rightyho, I have a little update;

getting some parts from Hobbyking, but I have a problem;

I have the 2.4 GHz Planel digital remote control that comes with the robot wars antweight kit, but would it work with any old 2.4 Ghz reciever? I have no clue
Do you not have the receiver that comes with it?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 12:31:12 PM
Rightyho, I have a little update;

getting some parts from Hobbyking, but I have a problem;

I have the 2.4 GHz Planel digital remote control that comes with the robot wars antweight kit, but would it work with any old 2.4 Ghz reciever? I have no clue
Do you not have the receiver that comes with it?
When I got the antweight kit and started to fiddle around with the bot (since it didn't work) it broke
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Tweedy on June 14, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
Rightyho, I have a little update;

getting some parts from Hobbyking, but I have a problem;

I have the 2.4 GHz Planel digital remote control that comes with the robot wars antweight kit, but would it work with any old 2.4 Ghz reciever? I have no clue
Do you not have the receiver that comes with it?
When I got the antweight kit and started to fiddle around with the bot (since it didn't work) it broke
I don't know what other recievers work with it in that case, you could ask on the fra forum or in the facebook group though and I'm sure someone will be able to help.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 01:21:11 PM
what ant kit?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 01:39:26 PM
Battle Antz

Anybody got the email address of John Findlay or Robot wars info etc?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 01:40:28 PM
the problem with those is that they are over the weight limit for ants and can only be used at rw events
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 01:41:07 PM
the problem with those is that they are over the weight limit for ants and can only be used at rw events
It's just the receiver I need
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 01:43:50 PM
what kind of receiver?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 01:44:24 PM
DP:
This is what I'm on about:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83869Planel remote.jpg)

I can't find a receiver to match it on Hobbyking and if I do find a receiver; will the wiring match up with the other parts on Hobbyking? Or does it not matter what 2.4 GHz receiver I have
The receiver to match that
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 01:46:18 PM
my bad. i think you might find what you need here:

http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/planet-5-rc-systems.html (http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/planet-5-rc-systems.html)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 01:46:56 PM
my bad. i think you might find what you need here:

http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/planet-5-rc-systems.html (http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/planet-5-rc-systems.html)
YOU LIFESAVER THANK YOU
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 02:05:53 PM
no problem
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 03:06:20 PM
The Parts have been ordered; their probably gonna be in this week;

BIG RAVE
 :)bigparty :)bigparty :)bigparty

Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 03:20:01 PM
what was on your shopping list?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 03:22:41 PM
3 servos, a battery, that receiver, wheels, servo parts, Carbon Fibre sheets, Decals and Tape
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on June 14, 2014, 03:31:12 PM
be careful when cutting carbon fiber, it makes these small splinters that can get inhaled and damage your lungs.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 03:34:49 PM
be careful when cutting carbon fiber, it makes these small splinters that can get inhaled and damage your lungs.
Ok Thanks, I will :)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 03:35:07 PM
servo drive i assume?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
servo drive i assume?
Yeah, it looked like the most sensible drive choice; the others required soldering and that wouldn't be compatible with the other bits of wiring
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 03:37:49 PM
you know how to mod them, right?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 03:39:39 PM
No, storytime? :dumb)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Philippa on June 14, 2014, 03:47:09 PM
Wait, you bought servos but don't know how to make them do stuff?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 03:49:26 PM
Wait, you bought servos but don't know how to make them do stuff?
I got servos before on a kit and I thought they turned clockwise and counter clockwise, I didn't know about the fact that all of them turn less than 180 degrees
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 14, 2014, 03:54:20 PM
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-modify-a-servo-motor-for-continuous-rotatio/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-modify-a-servo-motor-for-continuous-rotatio/)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 04:05:29 PM
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-modify-a-servo-motor-for-continuous-rotatio/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-modify-a-servo-motor-for-continuous-rotatio/)
Thanks, I've found a quicker way however; apparently you can cut the cogs, it's a lot less fiddly but it requires good cutting tools
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: R1885 on June 14, 2014, 04:31:22 PM
Careful with that method above, with out an ESC the servo wont move on its own.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
Careful with that method above, with out an ESC the servo wont move on its own.
Which method?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: R1885 on June 14, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
The one Nate linked too, doing that method will allow more voltage than usual, but will pull the electronics out of the servo, if you don't have a stand alone ESC then you will not be able to use the servo.
Or, to simplify it, the above method will make the servo into a gear motor.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 14, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
For a beginning bot; I will try servo drive then maybe adapt it into a gear motor for speed, this is my first bot so I want it basic.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 15, 2014, 04:22:43 AM
Anyone know where I can buy some Aluminium or Fibreglass? I feel that the carbon Fibre will be too small
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on June 15, 2014, 09:44:31 AM
mcmaster.com is your friend (for aluminum at least, not sure about fiberglass)

also has legendary shipping times
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 15, 2014, 10:44:34 AM
mcmaster.com is your friend (for aluminum at least, not sure about fiberglass)

also has legendary shipping times
Kk cheers, I think I've found a better deal on ebay, £4.75 for an 8 inch by 8 inch sheet? Hell yeh!

Anyway, I've drawn up some plans:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/40405Plans.jpg)
Anybody Like them?
Or are there improvements you can see?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on June 15, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
wait, alu? i thought poly and hdpe are better
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Mecha on June 15, 2014, 01:53:01 PM
Nice drawings.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 15, 2014, 01:57:16 PM
wait, alu? i thought poly and hdpe are better
That's the plan, if it's too heavy I'll go for the other options
Nice drawings.
Thanks :smile: but I've always been a crap drawer, my hands not steady
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: R1885 on June 15, 2014, 02:58:52 PM
I suggest that if you want fiber glass, get Garolite. This stuff is really nice, and pretty cheap to get and easy to find. Look, here's some here: http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=garolite (http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=garolite)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 15, 2014, 03:07:34 PM
I suggest that if you want fiber glass, get Garolite. This stuff is really nice, and pretty cheap to get and easy to find. Look, here's some here: http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=garolite (http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=garolite)
Cheers, I'll think that'll be a last resort, the cheap antweight aluminium has caught my eye, perfect size as well
Edit: god I need to get my grammar right
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: R1885 on June 15, 2014, 03:28:22 PM
I suggest that if you want fiber glass, get Garolite. This stuff is really nice, and pretty cheap to get and easy to find. Look, here's some here: http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=garolite (http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=garolite)
Cheers, I'll think that'll be a last resort, the cheap antweight aluminium has caught my eye, perfect size as well
Edit: god I need to get my grammar right
Beware of what alloy it is, some alloys are strong but most you'll find would be better suited as card stock.
The good alloys are 6063, 5052, 2024, and 7075, all of them are strong and light weight, though latter ones are much stronger than the former ones.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 15, 2014, 03:30:43 PM
I suggest that if you want fiber glass, get Garolite. This stuff is really nice, and pretty cheap to get and easy to find. Look, here's some here: http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=garolite (http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=garolite)
Cheers, I'll think that'll be a last resort, the cheap antweight aluminium has caught my eye, perfect size as well
Edit: god I need to get my grammar right
Beware of what alloy it is, some alloys are strong but most you'll find would be better suited as card stock.
The good alloys are 6063, 5052, 2024, and 7075, all of them are strong and light weight, though latter ones are much stronger than the former ones.
I'll check the numbers, thanks for the tip :)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 17, 2014, 11:25:36 AM
Ma stoof's here!!! :dance:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43068Ma stoof.jpg)

Need some help with programming though  :dead:
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 17, 2014, 12:11:01 PM
DP
I need help with wiring  :dead::
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6285Help.jpg)

Which wire goes where in which direction and slot?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: El Chickenado on June 17, 2014, 01:00:35 PM
skbt's better is an amazing name for a robot
cant help with wiring though
sorry
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 17, 2014, 01:06:19 PM
skbt's better
*brother
is an amazing name for a robot
it was just a joke, but lol and thanks :smile: ;)
cant help with wiring though
sorry
Ok, I don't know whether theres a switch on the reciever or it's broken but it won't light up, anybody else can help?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: cephalopod on June 17, 2014, 01:12:06 PM
DO NOT just attempt it or you might blow your receiver.
I can't help as I don't know what your components are or what each lead is for.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 17, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
This is what I'm on about:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73586receiver help.jpg)

It doesn't light up,

And this is the battery:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94552Battery.jpg)

Can anybody help?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: cephalopod on June 17, 2014, 01:29:46 PM
Are you sure you plugged the battery in the right way and haven't blown it? Do you need to bind the receiver to the transmitter?
Plus, I see no actual battery but that might be just me...
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 17, 2014, 01:31:46 PM
Are you sure you plugged the battery in the right way and haven't blown it? Do you need to bind the receiver to the transmitter?
Plus, I see no actual battery but that might be just me...
It gives no instructions on the right way to put stuff in, I hope I haven't blown it, but nothing's happened
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on June 17, 2014, 01:57:26 PM
you asked on robotwars101?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 17, 2014, 02:01:18 PM
you asked on robotwars101?
Nope, but tweedy's gonna help me on skype
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on June 17, 2014, 04:05:43 PM
are you sure that's the battery? it looks more like a BEC.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: R1885 on June 17, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
Why do you have a BEC?
You want to arrange the wires so that the top wire is signal, and the bottom wire is ground(Easy way to tell is that the darkest wire will almost all ways be ground). If the Radio is mode 2(Throttle on the left) you want to plug the servos leads into Elevator and Aileron, if mode one(Throttle on the right) plug the servo wires into Elevator and Rudder. The lifter(If you have one) can be plugged into the Throttle OR the Landing gear port. The battery can be plugged into any unoccupied space.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 17, 2014, 04:19:33 PM
I've talked to tweedy and haz on Skype, yes I've got a bec and also the battery is too underpowered to power the receiver, so I need to get another battery which haz has pointed me to. Yeh, I'm a total noob in real robotics :P
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 22, 2014, 08:02:55 AM
Update! Woot woot :dance:

I've been chatting to haz on Skype and he's been kind enough to give me his battery and charger as well as some materials for a low price, I'm really happy and thanks a lot to haz!  :dance:
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on June 25, 2014, 04:21:55 PM
Sooo... Time for another update

The bits came in today, I'll list what I've got;

3x 1mm thick Hdpe sheet
3x2mm thick Hdpe sheet
1x1mm thick titanium sheet
1x1mm thick aluminium sheet*
3x1mm thick polycarbonate sheet
1x2mm thick polycarbonate sheet
* it's quite dirty, so as recompense he gave me a titanium wedge of his :D

1xNimH(?) 6v battery
The charger for that battery

MY PLANS
So I'm going to make a basic wedge with maybe a weapon I'm not sure yet, I found my old combat ant and disassembled it, giving fast torquey servos for me to use as well as the stands :D. The receiver for that has also been found as well as the battery and now that I have more servos I guess I could make two ants :D

All in all, I'm extremely happy, thanks Haz!
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 06, 2014, 11:25:48 AM
First Prototype! :0

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49572Before.jpg)

The servos I got were too small, so I used the battle ant's ones, can drive quickly but turns slowly

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/52726After.jpg)

159g, need to get different servos to reduce the weight and add stuff as well as some screws and something to mount my servos on and some screws and nails in general

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on July 06, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
gearmotors > servos imo.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on July 06, 2014, 01:52:13 PM
Are you really overweight without any armor?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 06, 2014, 02:04:59 PM
it's only a prototype, don't be hasty

Any other thoughts?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 06, 2014, 04:14:03 PM
Update, now prototype version 2.5

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/47824Bot proto 2.5.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68904Bot proto 2.5 side.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/6917Bot Proto 2.5 back.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/74151Bot proto 2.5 underside.jpg)

Thoughts?




Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on July 06, 2014, 04:19:26 PM
How much does it weigh now?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 06, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
How much does it weigh now?
Haven't checked, will let you know when I have weighed it though

Which will probably be tommorow, soz
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Philippa on July 06, 2014, 04:36:26 PM
dat logo tho

If you're overweight without any armour then you are in for a bad time.
It looks okay at the moment.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 07, 2014, 01:32:38 AM
dat logo tho

If you're overweight without any armour then you are in for a bad time.
It looks okay at the moment.
Lol ikr but the logo is temporary xD

Remember again this is only a prototype and I need to get smaller servos before I can make a proper lighter antweight
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 07, 2014, 10:58:19 AM
Another update (yaaay)

it weighs 170g, so I've been talking to haz again and he has offered to give me small, lighter, servos which will be speedhacked to go the same speed as my other ones, so not all hope has been lost! :DD
As well as this, he has offered to give me some screws and pointed me to some good wheels

drawn a design for prototype either 3 4 5 or 6, will try to get pics up soon

Also, bearing in mind the team name, have you got any name suggestions?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Philippa on July 07, 2014, 01:15:29 PM
Wej.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 07, 2014, 01:48:28 PM
the best name for anything ever
doesn't match the team name, can anyone else offer me any suggestions?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: El Chickenado on July 07, 2014, 01:50:29 PM
gnat a problem ,gotta love puns
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 07, 2014, 01:52:10 PM
gnat a problem ,gotta love puns
hmmm, maybe, got to see what other people come up with first

but yeh you gotta love puns
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Lemonism on July 07, 2014, 01:57:07 PM
Gnat Bite? Spanish fly? Bullet Ant? Assassin Bug? Siafu Ant?
(I literally just went down a list of dangerous insects for most of these :P)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: El Chickenado on July 07, 2014, 02:01:30 PM
nananananananananananananana
gnat man!
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 07, 2014, 02:03:11 PM
some of these sound tempting, but again I have to see what people come up with
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: helloface on July 07, 2014, 02:03:24 PM
Spainish Fly sounds good.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on July 07, 2014, 02:54:27 PM
robot on wheels
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on July 07, 2014, 03:34:14 PM
Gnat Bite? Spanish fly? Bullet Ant? Assassin Bug? Siafu Ant?
(I literally just went down a list of dangerous insects for most of these :P)

There's already an ant named Saifu, but I like Spanish Fly or Gnat Bite.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: 090901 on July 07, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
Bot with Wedge
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 07, 2014, 03:46:01 PM
Hmm, I'll wait overnight for more replies, but gnat bite sounds like a winner
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: El Chickenado on July 07, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
i got one Gnat bight spelling things wrong is all the rage 8645t is an example
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 07, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
i got one Gnat bight spelling things wrong is all the rage 8645t is an example

I cannot understand this sentence, but I think I know what you are getting at, maybe
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on July 07, 2014, 03:58:50 PM
that's 1337speak
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Mask_of_Keter on July 07, 2014, 04:00:18 PM
Gnat Attack, Gnat-thing Special, Gnat Another Pun, or Giant Nasty Arthropodic Tussler (G.N.A.T).
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on July 07, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
some gnats feed on blood, what about "blood sucking freak"?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on July 07, 2014, 04:34:04 PM
Bloodsucker has a nice ring to it. :P
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: El Chickenado on July 07, 2014, 05:54:01 PM
how about Gnats all folks
or take gnat
gnat albert
the powers gnat be
i can go all day
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Philippa on July 07, 2014, 06:21:40 PM
Bloodsucker has a nice ring to it. :P
I would say it's more fitting to a vertical crushes, myself. But that's just my thoughts.

Tango Gnat.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 18, 2014, 10:01:15 AM
So I'm going to go through my opinion on all the names:

Gnat Bite: Has a nice ring to it, maybe this one
Spanish Fly: Sounds nasty and has a very nice ring, probably this one
Bullet Ant: sounds like something fast, but not for the current ant
Assasin Bug: hmm, not really, not as nice as the others
Gnat Attack: Love the sound of this, sounds like something striking, like an axe
Gnat-Thing Special: Sounds like a one trick pony or a final gambit or something like that, sounds cool
G.N.A.T: For a heavier weight class tbh
Bloodsucker: Yup, for a future crusher, and it sounds awesome
Tango Gnat: Just sounds like you put 2 words together, not really
All pun names: doesn't sound like something for the battlefield tbph but one day maybe

Also, I was bored, so I drew up some designs cause I was bored:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68914Designs.jpg)

And could you answer these questions:
1. Which one looks the best
2. Which one would do the best
3. Which one will be the cheapest in your opinion

and also feel free to drop in any more name suggestions

EDIT: Also thank you plazmic inferno, R1885, Natef and Badnik for your help on the receiver :)


Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Philippa on July 18, 2014, 10:24:14 AM
Tango Gnat: Just sounds like you put 2 words together, not really
Tango Gnat backwards is Tango Gnat.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 18, 2014, 10:25:33 AM
Tango Gnat: Just sounds like you put 2 words together, not really
Tango Gnat backwards is Tango Gnat.
Holy crap, it is xD still probably not for this bot however
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 19, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/55991Antweight.jpg)

IT LIVES!!! 149 grams! :DDD

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 20, 2014, 02:42:00 AM
Really no thoughts? Have I done things to anger people?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: MassimoV on July 20, 2014, 02:49:35 AM
Why did you make it out of a napkin?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 20, 2014, 02:54:24 AM
Why did you make it out of a napkin?
Lol it's masking tape and still a prototype

EDIT: And I forgot to mention, haz is planning to send me even more parts. And on another note; I will have my ant not prepared for the AWS so I am aiming for maidstone
Now I have got to go and update the FRA forums page  :dead:
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Philippa on July 20, 2014, 05:26:17 AM
Ugleeeee.

Some videos of it moving around would be nice.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 20, 2014, 06:32:28 AM
Ugleeeee.
For god's sake it's a prototype  :rage :rage :rage

Hmm, I'll see if I could get some vids up
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: 090901 on July 20, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
Maybe do a cardboard armour prototype? It would look 100x times better then.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on July 20, 2014, 11:33:12 AM
Maybe do a cardboard armour prototype? It would look 100x times better then.
Well I've already taken it apart so yeah ok

And, how do I use a mixer, I can't find the right combination  :rage :rage :rage
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: El Chickenado on July 20, 2014, 02:17:11 PM
for drawings
design 6 for looks best and cheapest
4 for do best
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on August 13, 2014, 01:08:34 PM
FINALLY A SATISFYING PROTOTYPE

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31231Prototype v.4.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/24412Prototype v.4 right.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/27774Prototype v.4 left.jpg)

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/30008Prototype v.4 back.jpg)

Pros
Fast
Well armoured front

Cons
Only invertible some of the time (depends how it gets stuck on its back)
Wedge is crap
No back armour
The controls are weird (need help with mixing etc)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Philippa on August 13, 2014, 01:12:34 PM
Sellotape.
Sides.
Stahp.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on August 13, 2014, 01:14:48 PM
Sellotape.
Sides.
Stahp.
FINALLY A SATISFYING PROTOTYPE
PROTOTYPE
:P
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Philippa on August 13, 2014, 01:21:33 PM
Quote
[19:16:10] chris: why the f*ck doesnt he do a cardboard mockup already

Skype group.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on August 13, 2014, 01:27:20 PM
just add some acetate on the front for a wedge. i used 0.5mm hdpe because i didnt have acetate, got under baby hell though :D
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on August 13, 2014, 01:28:38 PM
Quote
[19:16:10] chris: why the f*ck doesnt he do a cardboard mockup already

Skype group.
Because I cannot make cardboard models, at ALL

The best I could do with cardboard is a box

(E): And plus, the cardboard I have in my house is Crarp

just add some acetate on the front for a wedge. i used 0.5mm hdpe because i didnt have acetate, got under baby hell though :D
Wut is acetate
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: cephalopod on August 13, 2014, 03:53:50 PM
Acetate is very very thin, generally clear, bendy plastic. Give it a google. You might recognize it from around school or something.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on August 13, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
you can see it being used here: http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac13/team-shock/A9815CA1-5BDE-403D-BE3B-950428D6F530_zpsfwylj3hx.jpg (http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac13/team-shock/A9815CA1-5BDE-403D-BE3B-950428D6F530_zpsfwylj3hx.jpg)
(linked because large-ish image)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on August 13, 2014, 03:58:11 PM
Is it tracing paper
Hmmm, I've had haz urging me to use it as well

the only problem is...

Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on August 13, 2014, 04:02:44 PM
Is it tracing paper
Hmmm, I've had haz urging me to use it as well

the only problem is...

its cheap as chips :P
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on August 13, 2014, 04:06:20 PM
Is it tracing paper
Hmmm, I've had haz urging me to use it as well

the only problem is...

its cheap as chips :P
well I bloody hope it is
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Tweedy on August 13, 2014, 04:18:42 PM
Practice making cardboard mockups if you can't do them straight away, it's worth it once you can get a good mockup done and already have good measurements for an aw shell at the ready.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on August 17, 2014, 08:23:28 AM
Right, Update time!

-haz is selling me lighter servos, and hopefully I can buy them today
-soon I'll be getting some equipment to help build my robot
-and I've ordered quite a big sheet of 1mm thick HDPE as when I build the proper final design, I will need all the materials I can get, but it hasn't arrived and I've been waiting 5 days  :rage :rage
-Lastly, cardboard mockup will be done soon when I find the time and get the inspiration
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on November 30, 2014, 03:47:48 PM
>3 months later

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/45511Thar she blows.jpg)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/24702Thar she blows insides.jpg)

Made with 99.9% Tape :V

Thinking I should also change my team name, because underwelming-ness (or how ever you spell it)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on November 30, 2014, 03:54:55 PM
Lego Wheels detected.

not a bad thing I just like to call em out :V

Looks pretty good for a 50g thing.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: cephalopod on November 30, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
150g, Badnik. :P
Why the servo drive, Natster?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on November 30, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
Looks pretty good for a 50g thing.
150g, Badnik. :P
84, actually :P Planning to add a weapon cause I just measured the weight

Why the servo drive, Natster?
Can't afford speed controllers tbh, as well as the gearmotors themselves, plus this is a starting point to work from

Lego Wheels detected.

not a bad thing I just like to call em out :V
lego wheels are the future :V

Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: playzooki on November 30, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
if you can shave 9g you can make it a fleaweight. is this the final version?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on November 30, 2014, 04:09:33 PM
if you can shave 9g you can make it a fleaweight. is this the final version?
Probably not the final version, and I was intending to build an antweight, so I will

Plus, Fleaweights aren't as popular

Also, no purely sellotape covered gaps, all the armour is made out of 1mm HDPE :D
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: R1885 on November 30, 2014, 04:28:08 PM
Look on the bright side, at least yours has its wheels going in the same direction.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on November 30, 2014, 05:07:08 PM
Look on the bright side, at least yours has its wheels going in the same direction.
Yeah but the superglue keeps on coming off :P
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on December 03, 2014, 01:24:57 PM
Plans for a beetle are as follows:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49527Plan for beetl.png)

lolflipperwhatamIdoing  :dumb)
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: cephalopod on December 03, 2014, 01:40:12 PM
Why the parallelogram shape if it's a non-inverting flipper?
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on December 03, 2014, 01:41:56 PM
Why the parallelogram shape if it's a non-inverting flipper?
I know, I just put it there for show, now looking back I'm such an idiot :V
tweedy also made me one, so I'll have a look at that in a mojo
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on December 06, 2014, 05:34:19 AM
Just wondering, is arduino compatible with any remote control? Cause for Christmas I'm getting an arduino and wondering whether I could program it to follow commands from my controller
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: SKBT on December 06, 2014, 03:24:38 PM
you can but it's kinda pointless unless you are trying to make things harder. spongepizzatronparty is controlled with an arduino/xbee combo and a local wifi network.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: toAst on December 06, 2014, 04:53:50 PM
Quote
[19:16:10] chris: why the f*ck doesnt he do a cardboard mockup already

Skype group.
Because I cannot make cardboard models, at ALL

The best I could do with cardboard is a box

(E): And plus, the cardboard I have in my house is Crarp

just add some acetate on the front for a wedge. i used 0.5mm hdpe because i didnt have acetate, got under baby hell though :D
Wut is acetate
i just told this to someone else so im going to tell it to you too

aluminum house siding.

its easy to chop up, it's light as can be, it's durable, and it'll make your prototypes look battle-ready. it's also cheap as dirt for a 20 ft. roll of it (enough to armor a dozen prototypes)

so go take care of that kk
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: toAst on December 06, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
this sh** right here boyo http://www.truevalue.com//catalog/product.jsp?productId=29372&parentCategoryId=3&categoryId=43&subCategoryId=402&type=product&cid=gooshop&source=google_pla&9gtype={ifsearch:search}{ifcontent:content}&9gkw={keyword}&9gad={creative}.1&9gpla={placement} (http://www.truevalue.com//catalog/product.jsp?productId=29372&parentCategoryId=3&categoryId=43&subCategoryId=402&type=product&cid=gooshop&source=google_pla&9gtype={ifsearch:search}{ifcontent:content}&9gkw={keyword}&9gad={creative}.1&9gpla={placement}) have a blast
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on December 26, 2014, 07:10:42 PM
thats what i used on the original slim pickens
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Badnik96 on December 27, 2014, 02:34:27 PM
thats what i used on the original slim pickens

so it'll get obliterated as soon as a good spinner touches it. Yeah I really wouldn't.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natef on December 27, 2014, 04:36:36 PM
thats what i used on the original slim pickens

so it'll get obliterated as soon as a good spinner touches it. Yeah I really wouldn't.

if slim pickens can get 2nd with that, anything is possible. however, its better to be safe than sorry
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Tweedy on December 27, 2014, 04:59:45 PM
thats what i used on the original slim pickens

so it'll get obliterated as soon as a good spinner touches it. Yeah I really wouldn't.
I don't think people would be putting prototype bots into the arena to fight especially against spinners.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on April 02, 2015, 04:24:50 PM
I think I may dismantle everything I've got so far and start afresh, I'm dry out of ideas of what to do and where to go next to put it bluntly. Birthday's soon, no specific date as you don't know what kind of pedophiles there are out there. But anyway, for my birthday I will probably get a bit of spending money and maybe try and get a table in my room so I can actually work on stuff in my room and not have to leave things rotting out in the garage as there is no way to put them anywhere. I will have some spare as well so I am going to get some new things.
Also, I have studied a bit more in computer science and they have recently taught us about machine code, so hopefully that will come in handy.

Update over chaps
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Tweedy on April 02, 2015, 05:38:47 PM
I think I may dismantle everything I've got so far and start afresh, I'm dry out of ideas of what to do and where to go next to put it bluntly. Birthday's soon, no specific date as you don't know what kind of pedophiles there are out there. But anyway, for my birthday I will probably get a bit of spending money and maybe try and get a table in my room so I can actually work on stuff in my room and not have to leave things rotting out in the garage as there is no way to put them anywhere. I will have some spare as well so I am going to get some new things.
Also, I have studied a bit more in computer science and they have recently taught us about machine code, so hopefully that will come in handy.

Update over chaps
Just fyi you mention your age in the very first post of this. Also, hop on the beetleweight train, it's not much more expensive than a decent antweight and is a nicer size to work with. Or just stick with the ants and go for better construction with your next one. I'm always on skype if you need help with anything bot wise.
Title: Re: Team Gnat
Post by: Natster-104 on April 02, 2015, 10:37:40 PM
I think I may dismantle everything I've got so far and start afresh, I'm dry out of ideas of what to do and where to go next to put it bluntly. Birthday's soon, no specific date as you don't know what kind of pedophiles there are out there. But anyway, for my birthday I will probably get a bit of spending money and maybe try and get a table in my room so I can actually work on stuff in my room and not have to leave things rotting out in the garage as there is no way to put them anywhere. I will have some spare as well so I am going to get some new things.
Also, I have studied a bit more in computer science and they have recently taught us about machine code, so hopefully that will come in handy.

Update over chaps
Just fyi you mention your age in the very first post of this. Also, hop on the beetleweight train, it's not much more expensive than a decent antweight and is a nicer size to work with. Or just stick with the ants and go for better construction with your next one. I'm always on skype if you need help with anything bot wise.
Heh, I was a naive little bu*** :')
Beetle weights are a good idea, only problem is the lack of tools in my garage and the lack of space but apart from those two things I'd love to get into making one.