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Off-Topic => Real Robotics => Robots Showcase => Topic started by: Velocity EVO on November 26, 2010, 11:37:31 AM
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Yep thats me... my team. It consists of me, when the bots are built. I'll of course be team captain, driver and bot designer. My mother, transportation and constantly nagging me, and my stepdad.... a couple of friends might join me too.
My current plan is to build a featherweight. It will be modified from an RC car i have. Im planning to remove the top. and replace it with some aluminium.... or maybe steel. Take off the bumper on the front and replace it with a scoop. Also it will have a rollcage
Here is the current sketch i did a few months ago
http://s1131.photobucket.com/albums/m558/TheycallmeMrVEVO/?action=view¤t=drawings001.jpg (http://s1131.photobucket.com/albums/m558/TheycallmeMrVEVO/?action=view¤t=drawings001.jpg)
So.... there you have it :bigsmile:
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Great to see potential new builders coming along.
PLEASE scrap the RC car idea, it will end up as a modified RC Car, not a FW
No rollcages, they don't work, just make it invertible
Use HDPE, its really easy to work with
Don't use the cheapest parts available to you, they are false economy, you will spend more in repairs than you will with a better part
I don't want to say that our robots are the best, but try and build something along the lines of annihilation, it was easy to build, has NEVER broken, and is quite an effective pusher. Try to make it look original however
Good Look :D
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Good point.
The problem will be making the chassis. It it was made of metal or steel, problem is i cant weld.
Also the designs name is call Scoopertron, was gonna rename it Shove It.
Maybe i should have stuck with antweights 1st
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DP: Also, if you have enough HDPE armour, not even an axe can get through it (Crushers maybe)
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Good point.
The problem will be making the chassis. It it was made of metal or steel, problem is i cant weld.
Also the designs name is call Scoopertron, was gonna rename it Shove It.
Maybe i should have stuck with antweights 1st
No, I'd go for a FW, go into the world of roboteering head first :D
Make it out of HDPE:
http://www.directplasticsonline.co.uk/HDPE_Sheet.html (http://www.directplasticsonline.co.uk/HDPE_Sheet.html)
Only use the black HDPE, they may appear the same but the white HDPE is a lot more brittle
Don't call it scoopertron, we already have a bot called tron attending, it would be confusing XD
DP: Also, if you have enough HDPE armour, not even an axe can get through it (Crushers maybe)
HDPE is underestimated, its awesome
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My advice:
If you are on a budget Harbor Freight 18 Volt Drill Motors are great. I use 4 of them in my bot and I consistently finish in the top 3. (You can get them here http://kitbots.com/product.sc;jsessionid=D9D840EBCBDC4C577C1F2C842FFDD1B0.qscstrfrnt06?productId=6&categoryId=1 (http://kitbots.com/product.sc;jsessionid=D9D840EBCBDC4C577C1F2C842FFDD1B0.qscstrfrnt06?productId=6&categoryId=1) for $25)
Colson Caster Wheels are good and these hubs allow easy mounting of a Colson Caster Wheel to a harbor freight or drill motor http://kitbots.com/product.sc;jsessionid=D9D840EBCBDC4C577C1F2C842FFDD1B0.qscstrfrnt06?productId=5&categoryId=1 (http://kitbots.com/product.sc;jsessionid=D9D840EBCBDC4C577C1F2C842FFDD1B0.qscstrfrnt06?productId=5&categoryId=1)
If you don't want to work with metal UHMW Plastic and Lexan Glass are great. Lexan glass is the same stuff used in arenas to contain bots when they fight. UHMW is virtually unbreakable.
For a scoop or wedge 4130 steel or 6ALV Titanium are good. They are both very strong materials. My bots new lifting spike is 6ALV Titanium.
For a metal frame 2024, 6160 or 7075 grade aluminum are all good. 6061 is about 1/2 as strong as 7075.
If you want or need CAD software you can get it at http://students.autodesk.com (http://students.autodesk.com) if you are under 18 and have a E-mail that ends in a .edu
Good luck
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Thanks for the advice SKBT
When i get started. I'll keep these written down.
I also had a plan for "Mini Merlin" but it would be rather difficult to keep to the weight limit
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List of components you need:
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Transmitter and Reciever (preferably Futaba)
2x Cordless Drill motors
2x 8:1 Gears (to attach to the drill motor spindle)
A lot of chain (making sure that the width of the chain is the same as the gears)
2x or 4x 32:1 Gears (2 if you want the robot to have 2 wheels, and 4 if you want it to have 4)
2x 16V NiCads (You need a spare one just in case)
A lot of wire
2 Anderson's Connecters (Or Dean's - I use Dean's but you can use Anderson's, just means that you have less weight for the weapon, if you want one)
1.5m x 2m Sheet of 5mm HDPE - trust me, I ordered the 1cm one. BIG MISTAKE
Good cutting equipment
A lot of angling tools.
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List of components you need:
S/C
Transmitter and Reciever (preferably Spektrum)
2x Motors (From Robot Market Place)
2x 16V NiCads (You need a spare one just in case)
A lot of wire
2 Anderson's Connecters (Or Dean's - I use Dean's but you can use Anderson's, just means that you have less weight for the weapon, if you want one)
1.5m x 2m Sheet of 8mm HDPE (More than 5 for a pusher) - trust me, I ordered the 1cm one. BIG MISTAKE
Good cutting equipment
A lot of angling tools.
^Corrections^
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I use Cordless Drill motors. Trevor Wright said that my robot will scoot along the arena floor, like a pondskater on water.
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I use Cordless Drill motors. Trevor Wright said that my robot will scoot along the arena floor, like a pondskater on water.
Well I don't like them, this is much a matter of oppinion however
May I suggest this for a very simple but effective design:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/64532Pusher Plan.jpg)
This is just an example of how simple your robot should be
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I'd personally go with a Spektrum brand or another 2.4 GHZ radio. 2.4 GHZ radios hop frequencys to avoid frequency clashes.
Also if you want 4 wheel drive just use 4 drill motors. (its lighter and has more power than two motors chain driving 4 wheels)
If you decide on 4 wheel drive a 2.5 AH battlepack is great. It will get you about 5 minutes of run time at full power. I use one of these in my bot. http://robotcombat.com/products/BPK-CP2500-18.html (http://robotcombat.com/products/BPK-CP2500-18.html)
As for deans plugs I found a cheaper chinese knock off http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10788 (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10788)
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I use Cordless Drill motors. Trevor Wright said that my robot will scoot along the arena floor, like a pondskater on water.
Well I don't like them, this is much a matter of oppinion however
May I suggest this for a very simple but effective design:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/64532Pusher Plan.jpg)
This is just an example of how simple your robot should be
Ive saved that picture mate, it will be used when i get working on it.
Thanks for the advice guys, im keeping notes on this
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In some ways, IRLroboteering is just like RA2
In this way:
Minimise empty chasis space
Not in this way:
MOAR RAZORS :P
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YEAH BUT YOU JUST BUY RAZORS AND STICK THEM ON YOUR 'BOT LIKE A RETARDED 3 YEAR OLD PLAYING WITH LEGOS.
ALLCAPS= EXTREME WIN.
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YEAH BUT YOU JUST BUY RAZORS AND STICK THEM ON YOUR 'BOT LIKE A RETARDED 3 YEAR OLD PLAYING WITH LEGOS.
ALLCAPS= EXTREME WIN.
Stop it Enigma, this post is unnecessary
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I'm sorry. :(
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As long as you are not as bad as the Team Death on Robot Wars, you'll be OK.
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As long as you are not as bad as the Team Death on Robot Wars, you'll be OK.
Who was the original team death
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As long as you are not as bad as the Team Death on Robot Wars, you'll be OK.
Who was the original team death
I don't know, but TBH, I wouldn't use team death as a team name, it just sounds grim
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Well we do have another team name as well
Team SLAM!!.... if Death dont work this will be the back up name
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As long as you are not as bad as the Team Death on Robot Wars, you'll be OK.
Who was the original team death
http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Team_Death (http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Team_Death)
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Ah.... the old Death Warmed Up team.... Colin Scott is on the FRA as well
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wouldn't use team death as a team name, it just sounds grim
sorry to say but its a natural part of life
it could be worse.. they could call themselves "Team Kitten Suicide"
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Don't go with team slam either, we already have a team smash, too similar
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How about Team Clockwork
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How about Team Clockwork
That would be fine
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Ok im renaming the team now
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loose the Team IMO
"Clockwork Robotics" sounds better
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Yeah, clockwork robotics sounds good
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Just thought id add. Vertigo ive actually seen you at WhitWhick for robots live 2010. You were working on the mighty explosion
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OK, but how did you recognise me then? I only registered in May!?
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Seen your Roaming Robots profile.
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OK, might see you there one day then :P
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That would be good. Problem is. My mum could only get us to events that she can get to AKA within a minimum of 2 hours from Northampton
Also Whitwhick would be easy for us to reach
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My bot is taking months to actually be on the roaming robots bot database.
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That would be good. Problem is. My mum could only get us to events that she can get to AKA within a minimum of 2 hours from Northampton
Also Whitwhick would be easy for us to reach
If you're aiming for whitwick then hurry up!
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Just wondering. Is anyone going to static event with Robots Live at Snibston, i went last year.
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Also we should be getting a some money in the next week or 2. Then ill start getting some parts
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For a good amount of parts go to technobotsonline.com
You can also use robotmarketplace.com but this is in America, and in our experience, things take a good 6 weeks to arrive
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One of my future plans is to build a drum spinner call "Drum-in-a-drum-trich" Its and inside joke
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I wouldn't make a spinner, they're very expensive and can only be used twice a year
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We could build an arena that could be brought to events.
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Yes, but they wouldn't want two large arenas
That is quite impractical TBH
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Point taken.
It is still something id like to do
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Make a spinner and compete in America where they are Spinner Fanboys not Flipper fanboys :P
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Why not use Hardox. It is rather difficult to get into
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Why not use Hardox. It is rather difficult to get into
YES, use hardox, (if you can weld it)
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I cannot weld to save my life. So i'll stick with HDPE
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Yeah, HDPE's great :D
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Make a spinner and compete in America where they are Spinner Fanboys not Flipper fanboys :P
What do you mean by spinner fanboys? :P
@Vevo: If you are building A wedgebot I recomend a hinged wedge so your bots wedge will work inverted.
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Make a spinner and compete in America where they are Spinner Fanboys not Flipper fanboys :P
What do you mean by spinner fanboys? :P
@Vevo: If you are building A wedgebot I recomend a hinged wedge so your bots wedge will work inverted.
That is one thing i had in mind SKBT. But there is one worry that it could get stuck in the ground
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Spinners are overrated in my opinion. I prefer lifters and rammers. (That doesn't mean I don't like spinners though)
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When it comes to transmitters. Which would be best. Would a Scorpion TX be good
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It's got scorpion in it's name so it must be good!
(sorry for the completely useless post, but I couldn't resist myself :mrgreen:)
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When it comes to transmitters. Which would be best. Would a Scorpion TX be good
get a spektrum, nothing else is good
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I have a DX5e for my bot. It works great. For a non weaponed bot you only need 2 channels. You could get away with a DX3. I've seen them used on robots before.
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Ok instead of having a drum spinner for a future plan. it will now be a bar spinner
By the name of Dr Thwack
This CAD was made months ago for my fantasy bot (I requested the CAD)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Andrewbot/DrThwack.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/Andrewbot/DrThwack.jpg)
Also i discovered that the name Shove it was taken, so it will renamed. In caps
I CAN'T STOP!!!!
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Haha, I remmebr Dr thwack. I made the origonal CAD a loooooooooooong time ago. (do you still have it?)
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I still have that as well
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Can I have it?
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Let me get the link for ya
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6528/drthwack.png (http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6528/drthwack.png)
There you go
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I really would not advise making aspinner in the UK, its a bad idea
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I know, but i wanted to build a spinner for years
now my main question. Should i keep the scoop. as an interchangable with the wedge.? or ditch it completley?
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I think you should worry about first building a working drivetrain chasis and then worry about a wedge or scoop. But to answer your question. I'd personally go with a wedge.
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wedge
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OK just a quick update
Clockwork Robotics has now joined with "Team Avenger" the builder of the featherweight, Spike the Avenger
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Ok update
Matt (From team Avengers, which is the team im now a memeber of) Has given me the chassis and some parts to his old bot "Spike the Avenger" To me
Heres some pics
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m558/TheycallmeMrVEVO/TeamAvengerpic002.jpg)
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m558/TheycallmeMrVEVO/TeamAvengerpic001.jpg)
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Try not to hold it together with masking tape this time :P
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Am liking the look of the chassis, so far. Will the wheels face towards the wedge when it's finished, though?
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Probably, I think the top panel was just on the wrong way round. Perhaps a respray is in order, though.
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Try not to hold it together with masking tape this time :P
Thats were the spare wedge comes in
Am liking the look of the chassis, so far. Will the wheels face towards the wedge when it's finished, though?
Yep, i just realized i put the top on sideways in the pic, but yes it will have 4WD (Hopefully)
Probably, I think the top panel was just on the wrong way round. Perhaps a respray is in order, though.
You sir guessed correct
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You really need some hand flies.
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More updates? Your kidding
Ive purchased a T-shaped chassis from Alex (Owner of Block of Wood) Waiting for it to arrive in the post
Meanwhile, here are some pics from the old Avenger and the wheels for Mini T (To be renamed)
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m558/TheycallmeMrVEVO/spikeandminiTstuff003.jpg)
This is one of the 2 wheels i have for Mini T. Which i have big plans for
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m558/TheycallmeMrVEVO/spikeandminiTstuff002.jpg)
One of the two 12V batteries i have
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m558/TheycallmeMrVEVO/spikeandminiTstuff001.jpg)
One of the 2 motors for the wheels
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FYI if you are going to go with 12 volts... just so you know most automobiles operate off of 12 volts as well.
I mention this because there are many motors in a car that could operate nicely with a 12 volt battery. Particularly power seat motor and power window motors... slow but have insane torque. You can get these motors pretty cheap at your local car scrapyard, you just have to be armed with tools to properly remove them.
Oh, and a 12v battery is nice to use when testing car stereos without having to hook them up in the dash.
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i got mine for free when i told them what i wanted them for :bigsmile:
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ARGH, cheapy motors D:
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Just an update
Team Clockwork has merged with Team Avenger and Team Psychostorm to form: The Robot Avengers
Also another update, our team has Steel Avenger in it!
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Just an update
Team Clockwork has merged with Team Avenger and Team Psychostorm to form: The Robot Avengers
Also another update, our team has Steel Avenger in it!
Well, that's certainly a turnup for the books, having an old favourite in there! What's old Steely doing these days, anyway?
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Well after talking with the new team mate, a guy named Michael has purchased the bot from its original owners and he's joined our team. It WILL be in action at Kidderminster in October
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Nice! It'll be great to see another old RW favourite back in action. I mean, we've already seen machines like Behemoth, Stinger and Onslaught (and once it's up and running, Mortis) in there previously, so why not? All they need is for Cassius II and Chaos 2 to return, and I can die happy :approve:
I also heard a rumour that Firestorm might be returning, but I'm not certain.
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This is some VERY pleasing news to hear. And I do hope Firestorm gets back into the action. Love that bot.
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Then I shall toss Steely effortlessly over the wall >:D
Anyways, Firestorm, it's a possibility, I'm not saying how though, you'll have to work that out yourselves
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Steel Avenger's coming back?
Alert Jonzu :P
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Then I shall toss Steely effortlessly over the wall >:D
Anyways, Firestorm, it's a possibility, I'm not saying how though, you'll have to work that out yourselves
No chance mate, we'll end up pitting ourselves 1st
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Bloody heck! Nearly a year since the last update on our team.
Okay so at the FW UK champs we performed... Not so good (From what I heard, I wans't there) We have now purchased Bulldog Breed from the original owners. And I pray for the life of me that Matt doesnt sell it, it's all in working order and performed at the guilford show this year.
My FW, still no progress made (I'm such a lazy slob ain't I?) and it's currently sitting under my bed.
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Nice OOTA toss Vert.
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Why would you buy a used robot? It takes like 98% of the fun out of the sport.
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Why would you buy a used robot? It takes like 98% of the fun out of the sport.
To be fair though, if you had the opportunity to buy a great classic bot wouldn't you ?
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Why would you buy a used robot? It takes like 98% of the fun out of the sport.
Some people like restoration more than building from scratch. I imagine it can't be fighting fit after such a long state of dormancy, compounded with the damage X-Terminator did.
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Actually, going on the pictures that were posted on the fra forums it was in fighting condition as the team used it in the live shows after robot wars which is why the wedge is a different shape but the wiring had to be redone IIRC
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Sweet, another RW veteran back on the circuit :D
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Yep, I'm pretty sure Bulldog required no or very little restoration.
I think the reason people buy robots is generally because they are inexperienced and so hope to learn while maintaining it before they attempt to build one themselves. Having said that, team Avenger seem to have bought and sold loads of robots now, in very quick succession, which does confuse me.
I know I wouldn't want to buy a robot above making one, possibly except if it's something I used to love on Robot Wars such as Firestorm :P
In regards to the Team Avenger buy/sell comment, I have no control over wether they get bought or sold by us. I generally leave it up to Matt (Even though I find some of his choices questionable) and that's that really.
My FW design plan has changed since the last year, me and Matt came up with a Maelstrom shaped rammer with wheel gaurds on. And hopefully (Once I pull my finger out my ass, not literally) I'll try and make an AW of my own, possibly and AW Limpet or something to get started with.