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Off-Topic => Real Robotics => Real Robotics Discussion => Topic started by: SKBT on July 12, 2013, 05:18:17 PM
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http://worldcombotchampionship.com/ (http://worldcombotchampionship.com/)
World Combot Championship is a brand new North America combat robot event. What is a combat robot? Did you ever see Robot Wars or Battlebots on TV? Well thats a combat robot, or combot for short.
Since then the sport has evolved, the machines are bigger and more powerful than ever and the combots had been competing at two San Fransico based events, Robogames and Combots Cup. The events brought in upwards of 10,000 people over a weekend and had a one hour Science Channel special called Killer Robots: Robogames 2011 hosted by Mythbusters Grant Imahara.
In April 2013, after 10 amazing years, both Robogames and Combots Cup retired, leaving combots all across North America without a main stage to compete on. World Combot Championship aims to fill that gap and expand upon it.
The combots competing within our event can drive upwards of 20mph, throw things 10 feet high and can cut through steel like butter, oh and they weigh 220lbs!
You may be wondering who does this and it really is anybody from kids to families to co-workers to professionals. Thanks to its educational and design benefits it has a broad reach.
Did we mention we are bringing back house robots…
fund them at indiegogo.com
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/world-combot-championship (http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/world-combot-championship)
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I wish I had money so I could support this. This is excellent news!
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Awesome! Hopefully they will go to Seattle so I can see an event.
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Interesting. Indiegogo was the right choice for such a niche project because they keep the money even if they fall short of their goal. I gave them $50.
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Heck yes! If I had money to give I would totally help this out.
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Sweet it's nice to know there will still be a chance to Heavyweights live in North America. Does anyone know if this event will or others still run Lightweights and Middleweights?
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I believe they said if there's enough interest they will run other weight classes, yes.
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I definitely will be donating to this. You know how progress works. Web show can turn into a live TV Audience if popular enough. I will tell all my friends to donate. I also hopes it comes to the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
The one problem I see is, If they want to bring some of England's talent to the arena, Will they want to deal with destructive spinners if they enter? I am all for seeing a Sewer Snake vs Ripper Evo final, but will they want to deal with Spinners and Flamethrowers?
Also, India apparently makes robots too. Add India to the equation? :trollface . But seriously, one or two arent connected to wires. They look heavyweight sized, but I don't think they could do it.
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What about Australia? They still have a few heavies bouncing around I think...
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Really? I haven't seen any since Bond-I-Tich
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What about Australia? They still have a few heavies bouncing around I think...
We do have some heavyweights over here. The main one I can think of is Bender off the top of my head. I also plan on getting involved in combots, eventually making a heavyweight. At least thats the plan.
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Didn't know you were from Australia, dude.
I was thinking of Huntsman but of course it was sold off to Team Death By Monkeys...
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Didn't know you were from Australia, dude.
I was thinking of Huntsman but of course it was sold off to Team Death By Monkeys...
Yeah, born in England and moved to Australia 8 years ago. I am planning on building a robot soon. Starting with a featherweight and compete along the east coast
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Revealed at $1000
This heavyweight competitor is boasting the strongest flipper in North America with its full pressure CO2 flipepr running at 1000 psi
Any Ideas on who?
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Pretty sure it's the team's new HW, Celtic Warrior.
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Thats an awesome name, Is that the robot the grey haired guy posted he was making? Included pitctures?
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Revealed at $1000
This heavyweight competitor is boasting the strongest flipper in North America with its full pressure CO2 flipepr running at 1000 psi
Any Ideas on who?
I won't say it directly to spoil their funding, but I'm pretty certain that it shares its name with the progeny of a well known reggae singer
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Bob Marley?
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Bob Marley?
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Confirmed.
But in all seriousness, Is it something in here?
http://thecaribbeancurrent.com/bob-marleys-progeny-damian-marley/ (http://thecaribbeancurrent.com/bob-marleys-progeny-damian-marley/)
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DP, But
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Call me.....
Qwerty Holmes.
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They must have built a heavyweight version of Ziggy.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Son of Ziggy...
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Yeah, that's it. I don't know its flipper power off hand, but its SHW counterpart is one of the most powerful, and they said "North America" instead of "America" or "The US" leading me to believe the robot in question is Canadian.
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Yeah, that's it. I don't know its flipper power off hand, but its SHW counterpart is one of the most powerful, and they said "North America" instead of "America" or "The US" leading me to believe the robot in question is Canadian.
Watch it be mexican :laughing
Anyway, Do you think any British bots will be interested in joining?
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I only know of one British builder who is, and it's more for a lark than serious competition because his bot has a flamethrower.
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At least he knows it won't break with the solid hardox forks.
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Which reminds me, isn't Hardox tough enough to deal with most US spinners? That's what I heard anyway, ergo it's pointless to build spinners in the UK anymore even if the rules did allow it.
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Yeah, that's it. I don't know its flipper power off hand, but its SHW counterpart is one of the most powerful, and they said "North America" instead of "America" or "The US" leading me to believe the robot in question is Canadian.
Watch it be mexican :laughing
Dude Son of Ziggy is from Canada. That's kinda why he brought that point up.
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Depends on the thickness, US spinners will go through 3.2mm though which IIRC is what uk flippers use. The solid hardox will easily take anything thrown at it though.
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Was the original Ziggy Canadian?
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Yea. Calling him Mexican was a joke.
Also, Do you think team RioBotz would be interested in joining? In would help with it being "World" Even more. We could see Canada, Brazil, USA, and maybe UK then, maybe in the future Australia and -fingers crossed- India.
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Do you think team RioBotz would be interested in joining?
Oh, my... yes, yes. Oh, my... YES!
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Yea. Calling him Mexican was a joke.
Also, Do you think team RioBotz would be interested in joining? In would help with it being "World" Even more. We could see Canada, Brazil, USA, and maybe UK then, maybe in the future Australia and -fingers crossed- India.
Australia would, just not as many as it could in the future
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Was the original Ziggy Canadian?
They were made by the same team...
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How durable is tanto? It looks like it could take some american hits. But I do agree. Most of the UK's Flippers (Ripper, Beast, Behemoth) Look like they would be sliced very easily by some american bots. Also, how thick is Eruptions Armour? It honestly looks the most durable bot out there.
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how thick is Eruptions Armour? It honestly looks the most durable bot out there.
Vert said that its armour is 4mm thick Hardox, apart from the base which is 3.2mm Hardox
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Its pretty much how all the winners of the Robot Wars World Championship were from Britain.
A way to make it fair would be to make it hosted by a different country every year
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And then the problem would lie in the stupendous cost of shipping the arena all over the world.
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Its pretty much how all the winners of the Robot Wars World Championship were from Britain.
A way to make it fair would be to make it hosted by a different country every year
And then the problem would lie in the stupendous cost of shipping the arena all over the world.
These two posts sum it up. It's impossible to have a fair and practical world championships. Call this the American champs, fine, but it will never be the world championships.
I don't really pay attention to sports, but when there's a 'world championship' of something that requires an arena, don't they build many seperate arenas for each country to have, funded by that country?
I don't see why you couldn't host a grand tournament in the main arena of each country, weed out the best of the best of that country, and then the best of every country duke it out in which ever country is hosting the main event.
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You don't get the point. The "country hosting the main event" would still be biased to robots from that country.
And that would take a huge amount of organisation. Especially since the RFL tend to blank the FRA.
Yes, and if a football team from Australia were competing against a football team from England in an English arena, I'm sure that the english would be biased towards the english team too.
Yet, the australians would still stomp them.
A win is a win, bias or not. I don't see what your point is.
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All football arenas are the same. But in robot combat, Britian uses an arena where you can throw your opponent over the barrier, and America uses one where you don't. The home country has a huge advantage because they get to decide whether or not there will be walls.
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All football arenas are the same. But in robot combat, Britian uses an arena where you can throw your opponent over the barrier, and America uses one where you don't. The home country has a huge advantage because they get to decide whether or not there will be walls.
Make them all the same?
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Kossokei, pretty much everything you're saying is flawed. You can't make the arenas the same because then they wouldn't be suitable for the robots that regularly compete in them. Our arenas are never going to change that much, neither are the American's.
I wouldn't be so sure.
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I agree with Vertigo. Although it would be awesome, it would cost a lot of money to do and generate a lot of arguments between the two sides.
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This whole argument is stupid.
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The best idea would be to do the arena hazard free (like in Combots) but make it where you can Oota. That way there is comfort for both bots in the arena. Still spinners would be a problem, Would a robot like Touro be damaging to British bots? I can understand Brutality and Last Rites.
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So from what I've seen on FB there are going to be two Combots-style tourneys each year, as well as smaller, Robot Wars style tourneys every two months or so. Also, there will be a house robot.
Also, the first tournament will not have spinners, but it will be spinner-friendly for the first "world" championship.
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So from what I've seen on FB there are going to be two Combots-style tourneys each year, as well as smaller, Robot Wars style tourneys every two months or so. Also, there will be a house robot.
Also, the first tournament will not have spinners, but it will be spinner-friendly for the first "world" championship.
This points the hopes of the whole international thing in a better direction.
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So from what I've seen on FB there are going to be two Combots-style tourneys each year, as well as smaller, Robot Wars style tourneys every two months or so. Also, there will be a house robot.
Also, the first tournament will not have spinners, but it will be spinner-friendly for the first "world" championship.
This points the hopes of the whole international thing in a better direction.
But the odds of teams still going over could be slim
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No spinners in MW/HW ? What are they, Robot Wars ?
Did we mention we are bringing back house robots…
kill it with fire
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Did we mention we are bringing back house robots…
kill it with fire
Guessing your not a fan of Major Damage and Goliath?
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Yeah, the only spinners will probably be the rubbish ones in order to exert "flipper superiority" and the chances of seeing an Eruption vs. Last Rites style bout are as slim as ever.
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No spinners in MW/HW ? What are they, Robot Wars ?
Did we mention we are bringing back house robots…
kill it with fire
Their arena isn't strong enough yet to handle the big spinners.
Seconding the second point. House robots are lame.
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It didn't fail, we still have great attendance at events. The only reason Robogames died was that the EO got tired of the sport.
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House robots are surely a positive step forward. The main reason Robot Wars is going so strong over here is due to how much it has been adapted to a show. As much as everyone says that they're "not fair" they can be kept out of the way whilst competition fights are ongoing.
Unfortunately the "no house robots" and "no arena hazards" approach that Combots/Robogames took failed (as far as I can tell anyway) so surely adapting the events to increase popularity from an audience point of view has to be a good thing.
It depends what they are going for. If its a competition for the roboteers, then house robots are bad.
However, if its for the audience, the house robots are good.
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All they gotta do is aim for the classic Robot Wars, without sh**ty judges or any other scandal like the end of Series 7.
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And, I might get some hate for this, but A CLOSED PIT AFTER ROUND 2 PLEASE. The pit is to dump an eliminated robot, not a panic room for when you're getting the sh** kicked out of your bot. No more Bigger Brother vs. Hypno Disc, Corkscrew's round one loss in S6, Beefcake vs. RC Warrior (no matter how fun that fight was to watch), or the controversy made by Tornado's frame. Tough as Nails now has to drag its opponents elsewhere.
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No more Bigger Brother vs. Hypno Disc
Get out.
If your main weapon breaks up, then you have no chances to beat your opponent anymore. That's kinda stupid for a tournament like Robot Wars.
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House 'bots were cool, but I feel like now they aren't that necessary, since we aren't being televised. As far as the arena hazards, I think we could just have something like combots and it would work well, and maybe throw in a few saws or add spike strips.
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Get out.
If your main weapon breaks up, then you have no chances to beat your opponent anymore. That's kinda stupid for a tournament like Robot Wars.
OOH AN EDGY ONE. Still though, I'd've (yes, double apostrophe but it works. English is a weird language.) rather seen a ramfest between the two bots over a pitting. It's what made BattleBots so tense. Half the spinbots wouldn't have made it beyond the round of 32 if there was a pit, and even still the hellraisers screwed up a couple fights which is what made them remove it for the last 2 seasons. Look at fights such as Nightmare vs. Battlerat, Son of Whyachi vs. BioHazard, Mechavore vs. Vlad The Impaler etc., and imagine how quickly they would've been over for the robot that won had there been a pit and a pit release.
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I'm going to have to second this. Pits are dumb and that's why we're never having them in ARC.
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I agree.
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I think they should do American Style (Spinners allowed, Hazardless) and European Style (Housebot, No major damaging weapons, Oota Zones & Pit. Maybe as seperate shows or seperate divisions. I made a concept on how you can translate a European style arena to American Style. Only issue is costs.
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I think they should do American Style (Spinners allowed, Hazardless) and European Style (Housebot, No major damaging weapons, Oota Zones & Pit. Maybe as seperate shows or seperate divisions. I made a concept on how you can translate a European style arena to American Style. Only issue is costs.
That and I dont think translating a Euro style arena into an American style one will work. A mixture of both would be difficult. A Euro Div and an American Div could work, but that would potentially start problems between teams competing in different divisions. Team in the American division would blast the Euro division for being "wimps" and not taking on their spinners, whilst the Euro division would fire back. There is no way around it really.
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I think they should do American Style (Spinners allowed, Hazardless) and European Style (Housebot, No major damaging weapons, Oota Zones & Pit. Maybe as seperate shows or seperate divisions. I made a concept on how you can translate a European style arena to American Style. Only issue is costs.
That and I dont think translating a Euro style arena into an American style one will work. A mixture of both would be difficult. A Euro Div and an American Div could work, but that would potentially start problems between teams competing in different divisions. Team in the American division would blast the Euro division for being "wimps" and not taking on their spinners, whilst the Euro division would fire back. There is no way around it really.
You make it sound like all we care about is winning, the majority of people do this for fun, yes we can be competitive but it's never anything unfriendly. Also a spinner fight happened earlier in the uk, but it was private and there is no video that I'm aware of.
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Team in the American division would blast the Euro division for being "wimps" and not taking on their spinners, whilst the Euro division would fire back. There is no way around it really.
I feel like most roboteers are above this. If any of this happens it would probably be in jest.
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It all depends on how high they want to set their sights. If they're putting on something just for the builders to have an outlet, then a bare minimum arena with wall spikes and possibly wedge-defiers is all they need. But if they want to turn this into a profitable venture and possibly get on TV, then a house robot is a very good marketing tool - recurring characters are how you keep an audience.
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I just want to see some fights yo.