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Off-Topic => Real Robotics => Real Robotics Discussion => Topic started by: Sorrow on May 15, 2008, 08:28:37 PM
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Unlike Clickbeetle and MikeNCR, not all of us are engineering geniuses. So, what kind of real bot would you build if you had that knowledge?
For me, a middleweight crusher. Razer-esque, of course. It would have sloped sides (to imbalance spinners), a steep wedge, and a huge beak. The beak would be serrated, to possibly chew through wires the main piercing attack didn't directly hit.
So, how about the rest of you guys?
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A MW sawbot/wedge hybrid, closely related to Ankle Biter but longer and flatter. Large rear wheels like RA2 slim wheels, these ones slightly enclosed, to make the bot invertible.
And if the weight allows it, reinforced plating on the wedge's edge and a internal servo to make the saw rise/lower, to use when inverted for getting the saw to work again.
I will perhaps make a RA2 bot like that, for showing you, and posting it there.
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A shell spinner like Megabyte, definatly. They're just so destructive.
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A middle weight Lifter.
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lw shell spinner. ZIGGO anyone. i already made a scale drawing of the bot. all parts to scale but the wight came out to 150.6. think geared perm 132 at a 10:1 ratio. it will cost about 12000 to build.
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i dont think a perm is the right motor for a LW...
AW plain old wedge. got wheels and chassis done. but robot combat in insect classes are not popular in Brazil. only hobbyweights(few spinners/flippers) and middleweights(still crappy pushers/wedges)are.
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it will only wigh 39Lbs when the whole shell motor ystem is done. why is it not a good motor?
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I feel like RA2lover's. Perm 132 looks too powerful and unstable for a LW.
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yes but how bout a MW remeber it will wigh 150.6 lbs. i think thats MW i may be wrong
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I'd go for some kind of pop-up wedge, maybe something like MikeNCR's Appollyon with an extra set of side-spikes down at the leading edge so I could double as a S&S. I liked his setup with the wedge, the top hooks to hold the opponent on the chassis, and the pint-sized flamethrower, not to mention the chain-whip tail - I'm into damage.
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^ Yeah! Go metal mashing!
If I could make a robot, (and had the money) I would make a robot with a small hammer, flailing weapon, pop up flipper, and mabey some spikes on the edge of the opup part (so it can pop the enemie robots wheels if I'm lucky).
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yes but how bout a MW remeber it will wigh 150.6 lbs. i think thats MW i may be wrong
Too big. A regulation MW is 120 lbs, but the upcoming Battlebots competition is using a 160 lb class.
I also agree to the sentiment. A Perm would result in what I call the "2x4 effect", so named for a strong but unstable spinner: when it hit something, it would go flying, and the stress from such a hit would destroy your internals. Stick to an E-tek or a Magmotor.
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ya its a HW but i have found a way around the 2X4 thing. i may not be a skilled bot biulder but i am a very mechcanicly minded person. the only thing it needs to keep from killing it self is a few minore chages on old ideas.
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Unlike Clickbeetle and MikeNCR, not all of us are engineering geniuses.
Heh, I wouldn't call myself an engineering genius. Physics was my least favorite subject in college. And if you look at my videos of Defy Ant, you'll notice it didn't exactly dominate the competition.
If I had the resources and know-how (and motivation) I would build a HW with a lifting arm like Wedge of Doom's, but on the other end there would be a claw, so when the arm went up the claw would come down and crush bots. It would use a lift, flip, then turn around and crush strategy.
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There are a couple of Robot Wars competitors (8645T, Robochicken) who use a flipper/axe combo like that. The only problem with your idea is that to get enough power for a crush, you probably need hydraulics, which may be too slow for a lifter.
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Stick to an E-tek or a Magmotor.
Last I checked, they had discontinued the Etek. They found some in a storehouse and were loading them off a while back, but I doubt there are any left now.
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they have put the E-Tek R and RT out now.
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E-Teks aren't a little to big to put in a LW FBS ? I mean a flat one, Ziggo-style?
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Hey, I think there's a little problem, I just got on here and it says I'm Goose, but I'm Modder ty!!!
EDIT: Heres the pic
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/4761I'm Goose.JPG)
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It has been that way for a long time now, TY. Everybody is Goose.
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Lol, I forgot about the option to change the layout so once I did I noticed that... At first I thought it loged me in as Goose but when I posted at first (without the pic) I thought it was going to say my username was Goose.
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Mine bot so simple, its complex! All it is a E-TEK powered ramer armed with a spike. And when I say E-TEK, I mean SIX.
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Rammstein?
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What I ment was a box, six wheels, and a non-powerd spike.
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I would build an AW or Bw, with a Horizontal Spinner on the front, and some spikes on the back
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i would build a DUAL HS with a chassis shaped like a Y. the vertical line would house batts and drive, and then the chassis would be lower for the 2 motors at the end of the diagonal lines of the Y. they would have a disc each, facing upward. i dont know what weapon yet, but they would be small (like hypnodisc) so they could pull the opponent in and chew.
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Keep in mind that HSers do not work as well in real life as they do in RA2, though. Vertical spinners are usually a more popular choice.
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I would build a MW featuring four, motorized, spinning attatchments around the bot, for drills and drums. The bot can also spin, flailing the spinning weapons at the opponent. Never seen a bot like that but it would be interesting to watch.
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What Kill? VS are great in the antweight division, but when you see Nightmare getting raped... Vertical spinners have a weakness against HS. But this can be solved quite easily.
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True, I was thinking more AW than higher weight classesw because that's all you hear about nowadays. Point taken.
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Actually, the MW winner of this year's Robogames was a big Vert. spinner. Went undefeated.
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Well, I do believe VS are truly effective in the lower weight classes.
Antweights VS own ; LW and MW VS can be really good (Backlash and 259), but heavyweights are less successful and superheavyweight VS's do suck (these are rare, btw).
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259 was a HW.
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Ah. I meant 259 in RW.
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...That was a Heavyweight.
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I'd build a 6 wheel drive SHW lifter, quite similar to Sewer Snake, but with a bit more side armour, or a MW flipper, kind of like Ziggy.
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Am I the first to suggest a bot like devil?
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Big and powerful Beetleweight wedge. :D
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A HS designed like my BBEANS 4 entry probably a lightweight
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Changing my mind... MW's are costly.
BW VS, with a darn good wedge like InfCon, a big disc and good motors, but few armor.
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...That was a Heavyweight.
OBJECTION!:shock:
This Vid. proves it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoEQSkbYrDs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoEQSkbYrDs)
And I do know that there is HW 259.
VS rule! I changed my mind, I love to build a VS Ant(US).
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LOL at Mammoth running away from Dead Metal.
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Yes, I seen that too, and that's why I said that was a MW.
No need to use big letters or you'll turn into Venko..
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We do not need a Venko replacement.
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Didn't he say he was coming back in a few months?
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Didn't he say he was coming back in a few months?
I bet you we will have about 1 or 2 flame wars while he is gone.
Edit: Woot!:-D 700 posts. I am on pace to be a SHW by Christmas.
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I bet you we will have about 1 or 2 flame wars while he is gone.
I bet one of these will be like when he entered into the forums...
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What was it like when he entered the forums, oh ya... He posted his bots on your showcase.
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No need to use big letters or you'll turn into Venko..
It was a Phoenix Wright joke Naryar. Get a sense of humor.
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Ah, yes, THAT 259.
Good little bugger. Shame that his weapon belt was so vulnerable.
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bump...
i would build something like a Kan-Opener/Razer hybrid with serrated titanium claws (each powered by Razer's hydraulics) and 3" sloped titanium armour.
that's an indestructable killing machine with 27 tons of squeezability. awesomeness.
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And probably weighs like 3600 lbs. =P
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Damn you Hydro I was thinking along the same lines...
I even thought up a name for it [go me]: Jaws of Hell
The middle weight version would be much more similar to Kan Opener and would have been called Jaws.
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And probably weighs like 3600 lbs. =P
well, 1 sq. foot of 3" titanium weighs ~120 lbs and costs ~$9000, so, not likely to happen :-D
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well im a sucker for spinners :P I have a FBS Antweight thats nearly complete (antweight depending on the country your in)
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Damn you Hydro I was thinking along the same lines...
I even thought up a name for it [go me]: Jaws of Hell
The middle weight version would be much more similar to Kan Opener and would have been called Jaws.
i was thinking "Claw" or "Titanium Terror".
fbs = full body spinner = sns = sit 'n' spin right?
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full body spinner = FBS = outside spins around but inside stays in the one pace
sns = sit n spin = whole robot spinning around
look up team whyachi's "Y-Pout" for an SnS and "Typhoon 2" or "Ziggo" for a FBS
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I'd build an invertible version of La Machine. Simple but effective.
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full body spinner = FBS = outside spins around but inside stays in the one pace
sns = sit n spin = whole robot spinning around
look up team whyachi's "Y-Pout" for an SnS and "Typhoon 2" or "Ziggo" for a FBS
oh. so full body spinner = shell spinner. ok!
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I have to disagree on that. FBS's rotate the ENTIRE BODY excepted a set of wheels for drive.
Basically a SnS with translation capability. My DSL bot Singularity is a (failed) FBS
EDIT: 3.666th post. :icon_twisted:
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I'd build something good. ;)
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I'd either make a flipper like Gravity, a HS like The Alien, or an axe robot like Iron Awe 2.1.
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(Teeny reviving)
I would build and punchbot and pop-up hybrid
Holes in body so spikes can pop out of the hole while the other bot are up the wedge.
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or...
like a popup from ra2 but have slits so the spikes can go all the way out.
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Probably I'd make a HW version of Complete Control. Not like I could ever afford more than beetleweights though.
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or mantisweights(6pounds)
they can cost as little as 150 dollars
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I just want to build a hobby weight with THESE (http://www.robotcombat.com/products/BP639521-00.html).
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I'd go for a HW Front-hinged Flipper. I've always had a liking for those.
Also, on a side note...
----POST 100!!!----
Now to party like it's
my birthday! = D
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Something like Bigger Brother, but whith a smaller chassis.
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Something like Bigger Brother, but whith a smaller chassis.
Sounds interesting, lloopp. It'll be a front-hinged flipper that settles for no less than OOTA for me, though! Like Firestorm IV, Cassius II, Envy...
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Maybe MW Flipperbot
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I have always (and maybe I will when I start making more money lol) wanted to make a LW HS Bar Spinner :-D
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*BUMP*
WBC replica. Nuff said.
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Me, a Featherweight flipper. Plans are sorted, construction suspended indefinitely.
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I'd probably build a LW shell spinner.
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well, I build real ANTS and beetles, so I think I'd make a nightmare/ biohazard highbred
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That would be impossible.
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no, it would, Think about it
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It should. Dark Pounder's only 1 pound. It's motor is already freakishly fast. Use the same motor and just spend the remaining weight on stabilizers and a bigger disc.
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I would make a BW VS if I had the know-how (and cash) to make it :P
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HW Sheck spinner, with hardly any power in the drive, but a HUGE weapon motor. and a nice big shell, with a few large teeth ;D
Not that that will ever happen
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one lottery ticket Craaig :P and I will fly over a build one with you
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lotsa cash
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Probably far outside the realm of reality but if it were possible I'd get my hands on a front-loader or something and convert it into Hammer of Judgment.
Which would be awesome but impossible.
Dang.
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If I had more money and time I would build a decent middleweight out of an old Motorcycle gas tank I found near some railroad tracks. While, it is a bit heavy... gas tanks are built to take a huge beating. Back when Battlebots was in season 2 on comedy central I aspired to build a bot and go to Vegas. I amassed a decent amount of wheels, electronics, motors, and misc junk but never actually got the time to put it together into anything destructive.
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If I had more skills and money, an invertible disc VS, preferably MW.
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I have always wanted to build a LW bar spinner like Tornado Mer or Hazard
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i would make a FW forklifter robot shaep like a trapesium
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(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1897/ultimab.png/)(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1897/ultimab.png)
Could probably cut a slot in the scoop for dual weaponry.
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Wow! That's awesome! :eek:
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I changed my mind on what I wanna build, maybe a FW HS like Last Rites, but a HUUGE saw instead of a bar. I might just make it so the bar and saw are interchangeable so if the bot I'm facing has weaker armor I can use the saw and with thicker armor I could use the bar.
But I'm just fantasizing. Maybe in a few years...
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I want a FW S.O.B. with an 8 lb sledge on the end
or a real life unrealistic 38 mace HS (JKing of course)
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shish stop following me around and work on sh**-ka-bot so he dos'nt loose again!!!
do you KNOW how anoying that is? I can't belive you have the nerve to tell me I shoul'nt be thinking of other damn designs and be working on him! three times you have told me to stop doing what I'm doing and work on him!!!!! I need parts at the moment witch I CAN't get at the moment so what else am I suposed to do??????
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And you don't have the right to be talking smack to him, he as built a working bot, and all you have made are cardboard boxes powered by string.
Yes I know you made a real bot, but it not legal nor has it fought.
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you've never seen it jackass!
I was'nt talking smack, I was talking iritated.
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I'm sorry. I guess I never thought about it that way. I guess I probaly am being an ass. Sorry again.
R1885 Bot building means nothing about personality if I am an ass or not it doesn't matter.
Now everyone please end this and get back on topic
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it's all right. And the sh**-ka-bot thing is an old joke from me and my friends, not serious. I just need a cheep reciver that's not 80 bucks >:O
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it's all right. And the sh**-ka-bot thing is an old joke from me and my friends, not serious. I just need a cheep reciver that's not 80 bucks >:O
Here:
http://fingertechrobotics.com/products.php?cat=Radio+Equipment (http://fingertechrobotics.com/products.php?cat=Radio+Equipment)
About 50 bucks.
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heh heh my reciever, servo's and controller all together cost 40 pounds :)
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shish stop following me around and work on sh**-ka-bot so he dos'nt loose again!!!
do you KNOW how anoying that is? I can't belive you have the nerve to tell me I shoul'nt be thinking of other damn designs and be working on him! three times you have told me to stop doing what I'm doing and work on him!!!!! I need parts at the moment witch I CAN't get at the moment so what else am I suposed to do??????
Right, first off, you need to calm yourself down. Done it? Good. Shish-kabot, just ignore what Sparkey says, he's just a mentally challenged guy looking for someone to pounce upon. There's no need to apologise to him.
Sparkey, sort out your punctuation and paragraphs when going on one of your annoying rants, and Shish-kabot can build far better bots than you. He tries to help, heck, we all try to help, but you just sit there and shout at us, saying that we're wrong, when people like Naryar and Joeblo have been doing this for years (maybe an over-exaggeration).
Just try and listen, ok?
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hehe, Nary = Years, Me = Year and 4 months :D
but thats RA2/ GTM :P
I am thinking seriously about a FW SS or HS properally built, metal armors, electronics, wiring, hiring professional to make controllers, etc but Im not sure if I want to pour that about of money into something that cant fight in any comps
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Alright, I'll have to intervene somehow.
I think I'd build a wide front-hinged flipper (Like Firestorm, Envy, or Cassius II), or a low-pressure flipper, like Turbulence. They might not be as powerful, but I hear they're a lot more reliable.
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Alright, I'll have to intervene somehow.
I think I'd build a wide front-hinged flipper (Like Firestorm, Envy, or Cassius II)
Thats a surprise.
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it was just an example, if he likes him or not
ya know, after my BW thwack/wedge fails this month, I'm gonna put a huge dustpan on him
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it was just an example, if he likes him or not
ya know, after my BW thwack/wedge fails this month, I'm gonna put a huge dustpan on him
That darn dustpan! XD
And Nary, Cassius II was indeed only mentioned as an example, really.
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yep.
a shame that TDD got Retired, such a good bot
BTW that darn dustpan! and S.O.B. were the same bot.
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if you put a dustpan on your bot it would be too big
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Joeblo if you ever do get around to building it. Just buy a Vantec. You would need one for your whole drive and makeing your own ESC (speed controller) will cost you a a lot more money and might not work as well.
thanks for some tips...
I probably wont bother since we have a lack of Robot Combat here, in stead I spent $400-$500 on off road R/C gear. about a month ago :P
I was thinking of actually using some Traxxas stuff for a robot, since I am really familiar with them, they got hard and fast (motors) and are pretty cheap also.
but I will probably put money into a brush-less motor for my Traxxas Stampede before I build a full blown robot :P
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I've had an idea for a bot with a vertical spinning disc for a while, but what I'd do is make the disc hollow, and have some weights held towards the center by bungee cords. Which makes it easier to spin up. Once it gets up to a certain speed, the centrifuge would throw the weights out towards the edge of the disc, giving more force behind the blows. =P
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Sounds cool, NFX.
Still liking the sound of a Front-hinged flipper meself, though.
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it was just an example, if he likes him or not
ya know, after my BW thwack/wedge fails this month, I'm gonna put a huge dustpan on him
That darn dustpan! XD
No, the BW Called - Alabama Sweeper,
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Bump:
Basically, I would make this:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/94854T2.JPG)
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topkek on wheels, powered by the spirit of satan. the weapon would be 40kg of pure swag
it would weigh 100kg
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Well apparently what I'd build is a 2WD Beetleweight lifter, with enough armour to shake off blows from anything, seem as though that's my Summer project...
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If I had the real cash money for it I'd build a heavyweight robot. Tough construction, thick steel plow on the front and a vertical Manta-esque disc on the back.
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I'd probably build the first incarnation of The Solution, since I'd go for something basic at first (and/or at all), that and I'd be too lazy to build something complex.
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Probably something just like Ziggy, except with two flippers and enough power to do some damage from just the flip alone.
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Kishin. with enought money and knowledge i would turn it into a lifter with the same idea behind it.
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A BW HS. Most likely.
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I've been thinking about this for years and I've ended up with a rammer that looks similar to Panzer mk2 with a spinning bar on the back and a co2 powered fipping scoop for the front.
And to finish here is the list of all those names in those years with the last being the name I'd use today.
T
T2
T's revenge
Spiders revenge
Spidersouras
Techtrasourus
Techtro
Dark Tech
Darke Rider
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A 3LB Breaker Box is what I'm planning on in the future.
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if i had the money to build a hw i would build abot similar to complete control but with a spike to impale them before lifting them
also shw which is just like 10 really small bots in a cluster
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Maybe something like Diesector or Tazbot. I've really come to apreciate the innvoation and ingenuity after the builder released all of his fights. They weree designed to take a beating, and win with minimal damage to the foe. Plus they were great to watch.
if i had the money to build a hw i would build abot similar to complete control but with a spike to impale them before lifting them
also shw which is just like 10 really small bots in a cluster
. Good luck with repairing them between matches.
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Maybe something like Diesector or Tazbot. I've really come to apreciate the innvoation and ingenuity after the builder released all of his fights. They weree designed to take a beating, and win with minimal damage to the foe. Plus they were great to watch.
if i had the money to build a hw i would build abot similar to complete control but with a spike to impale them before lifting them
also shw which is just like 10 really small bots in a cluster
. Good luck with repairing them between matches.
well i would have a team of 10 people so i think i would be ok :thumbup
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a mix of 259 and s3
basicly s3´s body whit 259s disc and power. would have a kind of rusty paint job
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a mix of 259 and s3
basicly s3´s body whit 259s disc and power. would have a kind of rusty paint job
that would be oddly proportioned
xomplete control with diesector hammers to hit them in the air
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shw which is just like 10 really small bots in a cluster
have fun with 10 pseudo featherweights which cant push a shw for crap and get obliterated on one hit. And that's still implying you can find a place that runs superheavies anymore.
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^my thoughts exactly
Also, might as well post it now the rest of my components have been shipped, my summer project, which is what I will be building :L
(http://i.gyazo.com/31384e2b68f01928d3fca13b431c269b.png)
1.5kg Beetleweight, relying on my driving skills :P
Not seen here is the 2WD (it'll be invertible) or the 15mm HDPE box behind those slanted side-skirts.
Thanks to Tweedy for sketching this up for me. I just filled it with the components (to scale, of course).
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are those panels flippers or wedges?
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MW shell spinner
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A sportsman low pressure flipper (just enough power to constantly turn over a robot)/ Axe hybrid.
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A sportsman low pressure flipper (just enough power to constantly turn over a robot)/ Axe hybrid.
whatever happened to your WEDGE kit?
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are those panels flippers or wedges?
Servo-driven forks. Tactic will be very Panic Attack.
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A storm 2 type robot but with a spiked front hinged flipper on it
Or basically whatever is cool, Ive drawn lots of designs
A sportsman low pressure flipper (just enough power to constantly turn over a robot)/ Axe hybrid.
And that was one of them :P
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DP:
A storm 2 type robot but with a spiked front hinged flipper on it
Just remade the design with Paint:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17972Thunder VI.png)
The Arm is a front hinged flipper with spike strips all down it, yes I know it's an Ra2 part but if I recreated it, it would create damage and look cool
Also, this is my design for me and helloface's kind of shared idea
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/1248Cool bot design.png)
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A sportsman low pressure flipper (just enough power to constantly turn over a robot)/ Axe hybrid.
whatever happened to your WEDGE kit?
It's lacrosse season. I have no time, I'll likely work on it during the Summer Break after Provincial tournaments.
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Another idea I had was to make a bot like Big Nipper, only somehow make it capable of using both weapons in the same battle. BN basically has to choose beforehand whether it's going to be a lifter or a crusher, and I'd like to invent some way to do both. It's the perfect design to reach inside a flipper bot and sever its pneumatic ram - Seriously, in its match against Grim Reaper, it had its claws wrapped right around the Reaper's mechanism, but couldn't do anything about it because the they went with the lifter config.
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i honestly had no idea that was the case. that's interesting!
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a 3 part clusterbot that would be
a tough as nails type bot
a hs
and a vs
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Have fun being fligned sky high by any decent VS (see: v3)
Punjar style bot, except shorter and with a Electric Boogaloo style VS