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Title: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 11, 2016, 02:44:02 AM
It's finally public!
https://twitter.com/UKRobotWars/status/785742664805285888?s=09
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on October 11, 2016, 03:11:38 AM
https://www.facebook.com/UKRobotWars/videos/695885283909157/

***Applications now open!***
Warm up your soldering irons! We are on the hunt for robot teams for a new series of Robot Wars
Closing date for applications is the 21st of October
The competition will take place in early December (2nd - 7th)
Application forms are available from 'http://www.robotwars.tv/'
Completed forms should emailed to 'robotwars@mentorn.tv'
If you would like information about how to be in the audience please email 'robotwarsaudience@mentorn.tv'

So about a month and a half between signups closing and the tourney starting? Isn't that like half the time people got for the first series that everyone was complaining about? Also, smart move to host it in a month colder than March when the coldness really badly affects the machines... :/
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 11, 2016, 03:22:46 AM
Already applied. Here we go guys :D
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: R01 on October 11, 2016, 04:38:02 AM
Read about it, nice to see it back but they surely aren't giving people any time. Wish they'd just announce this stuff half a year earlier and then do it in a good time instead of in winter again(I guess they want to broadcast the series at the same time every year, however I'm surprised that they haven't learned about the cold issues in winter)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: F1Krazy on October 11, 2016, 04:41:41 AM
Read about it, nice to see it back but they surely aren't giving people any time. Wish they'd just announce this stuff half a year earlier and then do it in a good time instead of in winter again(I guess they want to broadcast the series at the same time every year, however I'm surprised that they haven't learned about the cold issues in winter)
If they were airing it in July again, I don't think they'd be filming it in December. I think this is a bit of a mis-step on their part. I'm sure they at least know by now about how the cold affects the machines, whether they'll actually do something about it (like installing a heating system, esp. in the arena itself) is another mater entirely.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Badger on October 11, 2016, 04:42:08 AM
Is envy gonna be there?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on October 11, 2016, 07:17:15 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/84790Screenshot_2016-10-11-13-15-02-1.png)
A hundred times this.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 11, 2016, 07:38:47 AM
Still more notice than last series, hah. Everyone who has already been building in preparation for a potential new series is fine.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: kix on October 11, 2016, 08:26:03 AM
I hope we'll be seeing you in the arena (or in the pits as Dara says)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: JoeBlo on October 11, 2016, 08:13:30 PM
Wait... so how often are they going to air the series? I assumed once a year but that would make filming in December very much in advance..
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on October 12, 2016, 01:56:00 AM
i've heard rumors of a few big names dusting off their robots for this? dont want to say too much in case i turn out to be wrong but...
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 12, 2016, 02:04:09 AM
A lot of the big names aren't happy about the short timeframe. Thankfully we kinda expected it after last time.

I have a feeling it might end up airing more than once a year but we'll see how successful this series is first.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: DaSnowingSteak on October 12, 2016, 03:47:18 AM

Nice to know that the reboot isn't a one-off and is getting a second series (could've had more then six episodes though), good luck to anyone applying, hope you get in and that and let's hope series 2is just as good if not better then the last.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Thyrus on October 12, 2016, 06:16:24 AM
The owner of luzifer (the bot that used to be made off of black hole 2 parts) is building a new bot as far as I understood.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: wakkydude on October 12, 2016, 05:48:05 PM
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So people keep asking me if Ripper will be applying for the next series of Robot Wars, I think everyone knows I was getting ready for it and I think I stood a good chance of doing well, the answer was going to be yes, but yet again I'm NOT allowed to enter, even though I will be out of contract, given the brand back, given them the website domain, actively promoted the show, and I've done everything they've asked. Basically, because I run a robot related live show Extreme Robots and it features robots from Robot Wars, I'm never going to be allowed to take part in any series of Robot Wars in the future as it could be classed as unfair, which is very sad for me after working so hard to keep the brand going and campaigning to get it back, over the last 12 years. I'm not even allowed to have someone else run Ripper for me, not allowed to be on a team, as that's what I tried last time, but surprise suprise they will allow a robot that's been built by someone who built the house robots, and the Team now present a Robot related live show ( no offence to them ) Something tells me I'm just not wanted and you just have to know the right people! What an absolute joke, Rant over !! Good luck to all the teams taking part in December

https://www.facebook.com/john.findlay.127/posts/10154030596963652
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Thyrus on October 12, 2016, 10:16:17 PM
Wow. What a huge middle finger to the man who basicly saved their asses.
I'm up for some kind of partition or something that allowes john to enter. I mean if peole like the razer guys the behemoth people the carbite humans and the terrorhurtz folks are allowed after being on battlebots I don't see a reason to stop the guy who is responsible for them making money to enter.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 13, 2016, 05:29:38 AM
I feel like there's a lot more to this story than just the 1 side so take it all with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: R01 on October 13, 2016, 07:24:51 AM
:/ Hope that some kind of petition or just other teams talking with the RW staff could change this. It really sucks that some stuff like that is still going on behind RW, definitely not as good of a reboot as it could've been but still better than nothing.

Also apparently they'll have about the same number of episodes?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 13, 2016, 09:51:42 AM
I think it's better to just leave things be until we know the full story.

And yes, 6 episodes. Standard BBC run.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Badger on October 13, 2016, 09:52:25 AM
the carbite humans
lmao

I mean what did you expect really, Mentorn to not be useless assholes?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: wakkydude on October 13, 2016, 10:08:58 AM
But does this mean we'll never get to see the drum in action? When asked whether Extreme Robots' new arena would be Grade 1 for spinners, John said he was "considering options". I'd love to see it myself, but if he can't practically make it work he would have spent a lot of money on a useless addition....
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 13, 2016, 10:20:08 AM
"considering options"
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on October 13, 2016, 10:23:04 AM
I thought the drum was to drag stuff up on top.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: firestorm999 on October 21, 2016, 10:18:32 AM
I have to say, if the Overdozer and Sweeney Todd teams return, I would love to see what they have done to improve their robots. In Overdozer's case, I actually admire their attempt to build a robot in the limited time and money they had, plus they had fun while they were at it. Maybe with a bit more experience and time, they may roll something a bit more competitive in the 2017 series?

Plus Sweeney Todd's Mecanum wheels really intrigue me and I suspect that it could be a very maneuverable robot should they fix the reliability issues. Also, is it just me, or because of the short span of time the team had to build, that they focused on the wheels rather than the weight and weaponry? Maybe with a bit more time and money, these problems can be rectified and Sweeney Todd 2 could be a very dangerous robot.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 10:23:46 AM
I know the Overdozer guys have re-applied at least. Looking forward to whatever they're cooking up :)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on October 21, 2016, 10:28:49 AM
Hopefully it's still like the first Overdozer. I like the amateur feel to it.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: R01 on October 21, 2016, 10:36:41 AM
Hopefully it's still like the first Overdozer. I like the amateur feel to it.
I have a feeling that's why they're announcing stuff late like that as well, but it doesn't fully work out and will just lead to low reliability on the bots.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 10:59:24 AM
Anyone that has been wise and was prepping since the first series is ready. Lots of bots are ready, and lots of teams that should've known better are not.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 11:21:37 AM
Anyone that has been wise and was prepping since the first series is ready. Lots of bots are ready, and lots of teams that should've known better are not.

I don't really agree that the teams "should've known better". Nobody even knew if a second series was going to happen. It would've been quite a gamble for them to start investing the money to build a new bot for a second series that they didn't know was going to happen.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 11:45:49 AM
These are experienced teams who build robots anyway. Other teams started in hope, they did not. End of. The teams that were prepping weren't secret about it either, it was a choice made by teams not to prepare.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 11:51:41 AM
These are experienced teams who build robots anyway. Other teams started in hope, they did not. End of. The teams that were prepping weren't secret about it either, it was a choice made by teams not to prepare.

It's still a big investment to build a new bot or upgrade an existing one for TV. The teams who didn't prepare likely didn't choose to because it's a big gamble to start preparing for the second series before you actually know it's going to happen. Imagine if you'd started investing all this money to ready Neutron up for a second series for it to never happen. It'd be pretty awful, especially considering that Neutron is a spinner and therefore couldn't even compete in live events to recoup some of the costs.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 11:57:22 AM
We had plans for Neutron if Series 2 didn't happen, in both spinner and non-spinner variations, so your point is kinda moot there :P
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Tweedy on October 21, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
These are experienced teams who build robots anyway. Other teams started in hope, they did not. End of. The teams that were prepping weren't secret about it either, it was a choice made by teams not to prepare.

It's still a big investment to build a new bot or upgrade an existing one for TV. The teams who didn't prepare likely didn't choose to because it's a big gamble to start preparing for the second series before you actually know it's going to happen. Imagine if you'd started investing all this money to ready Neutron up for a second series for it to never happen. It'd be pretty awful, especially considering that Neutron is a spinner and therefore couldn't even compete in live events to recoup some of the costs.

Hi, I'm the guy that has plowed every penny I have into Neutron to get it ready. I have been doing this regardless of whether there was a series 2 or not. Robot wars isn't the end all be all of robot combat, there are other places and other events that we can fight machines at and yes that includes spinners as well.

The point I'm trying to make is that it makes sense to build as quickly and as soon as possible, it both means that you're not just sending in a CAD as an application and that you don't have to build in such a massively constrained time frame.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
These are experienced teams who build robots anyway. Other teams started in hope, they did not. End of. The teams that were prepping weren't secret about it either, it was a choice made by teams not to prepare.

It's still a big investment to build a new bot or upgrade an existing one for TV. The teams who didn't prepare likely didn't choose to because it's a big gamble to start preparing for the second series before you actually know it's going to happen. Imagine if you'd started investing all this money to ready Neutron up for a second series for it to never happen. It'd be pretty awful, especially considering that Neutron is a spinner and therefore couldn't even compete in live events to recoup some of the costs.

Hi, I'm the guy that has plowed every penny I have into Neutron to get it ready. I have been doing this regardless of whether there was a series 2 or not. Robot wars isn't the end all be all of robot combat, there are other places and other events that we can fight machines at and yes that includes spinners as well.

The point I'm trying to make is that it makes sense to build as quickly and as soon as possible, it both means that you're not just sending in a CAD as an application and that you don't have to build in such a massively constrained time frame.

I understand what you're saying. But take the Hypno Disc team for example. They said that they wanted to compete if there was a series 2 of Robot Wars. We now know that to be true, but they had no idea whether it was going to happen and how much time they would have when they said that. It would have been stupid for them to start building back then for an event which they had no idea if it was going to happen or not, especially as their bot revolves entirely around a weapon type that is nigh on outlawed in the UK apart from a very small amount of events (Robot Wars being one of them). While you may have the time and money to invest based completely on speculation, not everyone does, and a short time window like the one that has been provided has absolutely no benefits over giving teams longer to prepare, which would allow use to see more bots, better bots and have flippers actually be effective.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 12:27:37 PM
Tweedy's an apprentice, the Hypno boys have their own company iirc. I don't think spare money comes into it :P
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Tweedy on October 21, 2016, 12:30:14 PM
These are experienced teams who build robots anyway. Other teams started in hope, they did not. End of. The teams that were prepping weren't secret about it either, it was a choice made by teams not to prepare.

It's still a big investment to build a new bot or upgrade an existing one for TV. The teams who didn't prepare likely didn't choose to because it's a big gamble to start preparing for the second series before you actually know it's going to happen. Imagine if you'd started investing all this money to ready Neutron up for a second series for it to never happen. It'd be pretty awful, especially considering that Neutron is a spinner and therefore couldn't even compete in live events to recoup some of the costs.

Hi, I'm the guy that has plowed every penny I have into Neutron to get it ready. I have been doing this regardless of whether there was a series 2 or not. Robot wars isn't the end all be all of robot combat, there are other places and other events that we can fight machines at and yes that includes spinners as well.

The point I'm trying to make is that it makes sense to build as quickly and as soon as possible, it both means that you're not just sending in a CAD as an application and that you don't have to build in such a massively constrained time frame.

I understand what you're saying. But take the Hypno Disc team for example. They said that they wanted to compete if there was a series 2 of Robot Wars. We now know that to be true, but they had no idea whether it was going to happen and how much time they would have when they said that. It would have been stupid for them to start building back then for an event which they had no idea if it was going to happen or not, especially as their bot revolves entirely around a weapon type that is nigh on outlawed in the UK apart from a very small amount of events (Robot Wars being one of them). While you may have the time and money to invest based completely on speculation, not everyone does, and a short time window like the one that has been provided has absolutely no benefits over giving teams longer to prepare, which would allow use to see more bots, better bots and have flippers actually be effective.

The fact you think I have more money and time than most roboteers is quite amusing, I'm making less than minimum wage and  I can manage to get a heavy spinner done in time. Why is that? Because I'm building before and don't have to fork out £2000+ in a matter of six weeks to get a machine ready.

As I said there are other events that you can fight spinners at, Robogames for example, if someone can afford to build a heavy, regardless of timescale then they can afford to either pay to go to Robogames, or save to pay for that trip.

If you want to get a machine in and ready in time build it early, people have been saying that since the first episode aired. If people don't want to do that then they have nobody to blame when they can't complete a bot in the timescale that Mentorn have given.

Also, flippers being effective has absolutely nothing to do with timescales, the issues that were caused at the event were based on temperature. They could literally pluck any 4 flippers from the live circuit and the problem would persist because it's an inherent issue with pneumatics.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 12:32:23 PM
Tweedy's an apprentice, the Hypno boys have their own company iirc. I don't think spare money comes into it :P
It's not the amount of money I'm talking about. I'm talking about willingness to spend it  on something that you don't know is going to happen or not. You may be willing to spend money speculatively, but others likely aren't. Preparing for Series 2 before it had been announced would basically be a form of gambling.

]The fact you think I have more money and time than most roboteers is quite amusing, I'm making less than minimum wage and  I can manage to get a heavy spinner done in time. Why is that? Because I'm building before and don't have to fork out £2000+ in a matter of six weeks to get a machine ready.

As I said there are other events that you can fight spinners at, Robogames for example, if someone can afford to build a heavy, regardless of timescale then they can afford to either pay to go to Robogames, or save to pay for that trip.

If you want to get a machine in and ready in time build it early, people have been saying that since the first episode aired. If people don't want to do that then they have nobody to blame when they can't complete a bot in the timescale that Mentorn have given.

Also, flippers being effective has absolutely nothing to do with timescales, the issues that were caused at the event were based on temperature. They could literally pluck any 4 flippers from the live circuit and the problem would persist because it's an inherent issue with pneumatics.

I don't think you have more money. I think that you're willing to invest what money you do have more readily. Building a bot for series 2 before it had been announced essentially amounts to gambling, and while you were successful this time there was no way to know if you would be defore S2 was announced

And pneumatics effectiveness is tied (if indirectly) to timescales. If they'd have given Roboteers until May to prepare rather than December then builders would have had longer to make their bots and Pneumatics would have been more effecive due to them not filming in the middle of winter.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 12:43:42 PM
He was spending it on a robot not Robot Wars.
Plus if you look at the teams who've pulled out
Tornado, Storm 2, Gravity... Definitely bots that need RW to be commissioned to have an event to run at ;)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 12:46:33 PM
He was spending it on a robot not Robot Wars.
Plus if you look at the teams who've pulled out
Tornado, Storm 2, Gravity... Definitely bots that need RW to be commissioned to have an event to run at ;)

The issue of spinners is just an added issue on top of the main ones: Money and Time.

Tornado and Gravity were going to be completely rebuilt for series 2. This cannot be done between now and December. Your counter point to this is that they should have been building before now. My point is that building before now would have been gambling with their money as there was no confirmation that a second series was going to happen.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on October 21, 2016, 12:48:18 PM
Is there a list anywhere of teams that have applied?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 12:49:27 PM
Aaaaaaaa my point was Tornado and Gravity would be able to run at Live events just fine so why does RW have to happen for them to be made?
Just fame hungry?

Also the rw reddit has a fair list Badnik.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on October 21, 2016, 12:51:04 PM
TheRoboteer is making some valid points, come on guys.

https://www.reddit.com/r/robotwars/comments/51q9wp/the_robotwars_2017_info_thread/
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
It's opinion based Kurt, no one person is right. We're all conveying our views.

In our opinion we are making valid points.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 01:00:15 PM
Aaaaaaaa my point was Tornado and Gravity would be able to run at Live events just fine so why does RW have to happen for them to be made?
Just fame hungry?

Also the rw reddit has a fair list Badnik.

Because Robot Wars gives them an incentive for investing the money required. It's essentially the 'World Cup' of UK robot combat. It allows them to show off their engineering prowess to a nationwide audience, as well as getting to be on Televison.You could ask the same question of literally any of the bots who have been built or upgraded specifically for Battlebots or Robot Wars. I'd hardly call it being 'Fame Hungry'. My question to you in that case is why are YOU competing in Robot Wars if the only reason to is being 'Fame hungry'
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 01:04:18 PM
Neutron was being upgraded regardless of if RW came back.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Tweedy on October 21, 2016, 01:05:38 PM
Aaaaaaaa my point was Tornado and Gravity would be able to run at Live events just fine so why does RW have to happen for them to be made?
Just fame hungry?

Also the rw reddit has a fair list Badnik.

Because Robot Wars gives them an incentive for investing the money required. It's essentially the 'World Cup' of UK robot combat. It allows them to show off their engineering prowess to a nationwide audience, as well as getting to be on Televison.You could ask the same question of literally any of the bots who have been built or upgraded specifically for Battlebots or Robot Wars. I'd hardly call it being 'Fame Hungry'. My question to you in that case is why are YOU competing in Robot Wars if the only reason to is being 'Fame hungry'

I want to compete, so I build and apply. It's quite simple. The TV side is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 01:06:48 PM
Neutron was being upgraded regardless of if RW came back.

I know, but why go through the whole debacle of applying to RW and making the improvements necessary to Neutron if the live events up and down the country are of equal prestige to RW?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 01:08:27 PM
Applying isn't a debacle, it's 1 form. And improvements were being done regardless.
I'm sorry but when did this conversation turn from teams not being prepped for season 2 to an attack on our character?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Tweedy on October 21, 2016, 01:09:38 PM
Neutron was being upgraded regardless of if RW came back.

I know, but why go through the whole debacle of applying to RW and making the improvements necessary to Neutron if the live events up and down the country are of equal prestige to RW?

So Robot Wars is the only event now that spinners can run at?

Damn someone should let Battlebots and Robogames know that they can't run spinners any more, I'm sure they'll be keen to know why that is.

If you can't back up your arguments with anything but a personal attack then I have nothing more to say on the matter.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 01:11:10 PM
Applying isn't a debacle, it's 1 form. And improvements were being done regardless.
I'm sorry but when did this conversation turn from teams not being prepped for season 2 to an attack on our character?

Sorry if you took it as an attack on your character, it wasn't intending it as that at all. I was just curious as to how you could call the teams who were intending to make improvements for RW S2 but had to pull out due to time restrictions "Fame Hungry" when you were entering the same event yourselves
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 01:13:02 PM
Neutron was being upgraded regardless of if RW came back.

I know, but why go through the whole debacle of applying to RW and making the improvements necessary to Neutron if the live events up and down the country are of equal prestige to RW?

So Robot Wars is the only event now that spinners can run at?

Damn someone should let Battlebots and Robogames know that they can't run spinners any more, I'm sure they'll be keen to know why that is.

If you can't back up your arguments with anything but a personal attack then I have nothing more to say on the matter.

Battlebots and Robogames are abroad. If it was easy to compete in them I have no doubt that every single Robot Wars team would at the very least apply to Battlebots and Robogames.

Again, it wasn't intended as a personal attack. I was merely curious as to how you could call the teams who were intending to make improvements for RW S2 but had to pull out due to time restrictions "Fame Hungry" when you were entering the same event yourselves
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 01:14:28 PM
I wasn't calling them fame hungry, just calling out the fact that those bots are legal in the live circuit and therefore a new series shouldn't be the defining reason they are made is the builders truly enjoy the hobby.
I'm done now. Not gonna reply if everything's being taken out of context. Peace.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 01:18:23 PM
I wasn't calling them fame hungry, just calling out the fact that those bots are legal in the live circuit and therefore a new series shouldn't be the defining reason they are made is the builders truly enjoy the hobby.
I'm done now. Not gonna reply if everything's being taken out of context. Peace.

Well, thanks for making me look like the bad guy then for misconstruing what you said

What a thoroughly unpleasant experience. I think i'll stick to Reddit.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Probably Rob on October 21, 2016, 01:26:19 PM
I... don't think that's a very wise idea, to publicly confirm... it's Reddit. Ew
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 01:28:12 PM
What do you want me to say?
We had a difference in opinion, that happens. You made me look like a bad guy too you know, this isn't a one way street.
What we have to do is work past our issues and come together as a community.
Leaving fixes nothing, I'm sure you know that.

Sorry if I made you feel sh**ty, I'm sure that makes us even. We can accept our differences and continue to look forward to series 2. :)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on October 21, 2016, 01:50:45 PM
What do you want me to say?
We had a difference in opinion, that happens. You made me look like a bad guy too you know, this isn't a one way street.
What we have to do is work past our issues and come together as a community.
Leaving fixes nothing, I'm sure you know that.

Sorry if I made you feel sh**ty, I'm sure that makes us even. We can accept our differences and continue to look forward to series 2. :)
I don't expect you to say anything. I'm not expecting an apology for us having a difference in opinion. Nor do I expect one for you making me look like a bad guy.

The difference here is that you're already established as a member of this community. Everybody already knows that you're not a bad guy. I know that. You know that, and I'm sorry I made you look like one.

I on the other hand. Have been on this forum for about two weeks. This is most people's first impression of me. Nobody knows what I'm actually like. They say first impression is everything. And that's mine. Done.

And you say leaving fixes nothing but I'd say you know that's not true. I no longer have to worry about me looking like a piece of sh** to everyone on this site, and you no longer have to worry about arguing with people like me. It's mutually beneficial.

Maybe I'll post in my showcase from time to time, I dunno. And again, I apologise for what I said, and if this has made the situation even worse,the I apologise for that also. Sorry for being a drama queen. I'm done.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 21, 2016, 01:57:22 PM
Nobody thinks that about you and nobody will.  People argue with me all the time. That's how things go. Nothing changes here, I just don't back down from my opinion :P
95% of people back your side in this argument and I'm very aware of that.
Everyone knows what you said isn't what you meant. I'm 100% sure nobody here thinks you're a 'bad person' and I know I for sure don't.
Relax, take some time, and come back.

I put this all down to reddit not being very good for arguments, it's all sneaky downvotes and not just having it out like we do here ;)

Take care man.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: JoeBlo on October 25, 2016, 11:18:12 PM
Back to the topic... Razer 1.5 incoming :P

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/38010FB_IMG_1477455233518.jpg)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Sircreepalot2 on October 25, 2016, 11:40:48 PM
obligatory "razer is overrated" comment here
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: jackster96 on October 26, 2016, 12:16:25 PM
Not to keen on the new scoop look but its effectiveness will probably improve wonder if it can avoid the pit this time.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Conraaa on October 26, 2016, 12:28:50 PM
Razer needs a complete rebuild from the ground up to be effective in this day and age. That scoop won't do much.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: jackster96 on October 26, 2016, 12:36:45 PM
ye its crusher was not effective at all it was more of a grabber so i hope they seriously crank up the crushing power but cant see that happening without them having to completely redesign.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: JoeBlo on October 26, 2016, 11:29:31 PM
I have faith in them.. they made some internal updates to Warhead between the New Battlebots seasons.. next thing you know Complete Control is a flaming wreck..

Will reserve judgment until I see it in action.. its very short stint in the last robot wars isnt much of an indication. :)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on October 27, 2016, 05:04:49 AM
They had that scoop at Series 1 as an anti-Carbide measure. After all, seem as though they swapped the old batteries for LiPo, they had a lot of weight to use up. :P
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on October 29, 2016, 06:25:55 PM
ye its crusher was not effective at all it was more of a grabber so i hope they seriously crank up the crushing power but cant see that happening without them having to completely redesign.
I think it's too soon to make that judgement; Nuts and Kill-E were both awkward shapes to grab, and the latter was made from metal pipes that don't give as easy as a chassis made from sheets of metal.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Scorpio on November 07, 2016, 04:02:20 PM
Yeah, I was thinking Razer not piercing Kill-E-Krank-E (god that's awkward to type on my phone) was more because the latter is essentially a steel pipe on wheels with a blade; Razer's crusher is much more suited to flat tops.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: wakkydude on November 13, 2016, 06:39:31 PM
According to a recent episode of Inside the Bot, Razer is officially done. The team are potentially interested in donating it to the Science Museum.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: qwertythe300th on November 15, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
According to a recent episode of Inside the Bot, Razer is officially done. The team are potentially interested in donating it to the Science Museum.

well ain't that just the most depressing thing
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on November 15, 2016, 05:42:12 PM
Yeah we didn't get in. Just thought it'd be worth saying.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: dragonsteincole on November 15, 2016, 05:52:33 PM
Sorry to hear that, you guys deserved to by all accounts.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: JoeBlo on November 17, 2016, 10:38:53 AM
According to a recent episode of Inside the Bot, Razer is officially done. The team are potentially interested in donating it to the Science Museum.

A bit sad but understandable.. on the plus side at least as a museum exhibit I might be able to see it in person for once in my life.. itll probably be years before I ever make it to the UK..

I do hope they continue with Warhead or other combat robots.. they are too much fun not to have around.

Yeah we didn't get in. Just thought it'd be worth saying.

Bummer.. any particular reasoning given? I mean I know they cant take everyone but do they give feedback at all?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on November 17, 2016, 02:15:07 PM
We got the general feedback that they're looking for unique, original, nearly-finished entries. We believed we were all of those but that's okay :)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: yugitom on November 17, 2016, 02:43:08 PM
Razer was unique and original af
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on December 02, 2016, 06:00:39 AM
Celebrity   Occupation   Mentor   Mentor's Team   
Robbie Savage   Football pundit.   Jason Marston   Thor   
Jordan Stephens   Rizzle Kicks singer.   John Reid   Terrorhurtz   
Neil Oliver   Historian and presenter.   Will Thomas   Shockwave   
Kadeena Cox   Paralympic athlete.   Ellis Ware   Pulsar   
Jonathan Brownlee/Alistair Brownlee   Olympic triathletes.   Gabriel Stroud   Sabretooth   
Dr. Maggie Aderin-Pocock   Scientist and presenter.   Shane Swan   Dantomkia   
Suzi Perry   F1/Gadget Show presenter.   Suren Balendran   Supernova   
Scott Mills/Chris Stark   Radio 1 DJs.   Dave Moulds   Carbide   

Top four lines are in the first episode, bottom four are in the second episode.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: F1Krazy on December 02, 2016, 06:24:59 AM
That's a pretty good line-up of both celebrities and bots, looking forward to it :D
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on December 02, 2016, 06:53:59 AM
Just saying just because those are the mentors, doesn't mean they're using those bots.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Merrick on December 02, 2016, 07:41:01 AM
I think I read somewhere that they're using original robots for this.

Most likely pre-built novelty bots for the celebs to drive while the roboteer is there to give the impression that they helped build it with them.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on December 02, 2016, 07:48:03 AM
Just saying just because those are the mentors, doesn't mean they're using those bots.
Well yeah, but it's just some context for where the mentors came from.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on December 02, 2016, 08:02:06 AM
I was mostly replying to F1Krazy.
The actual bots also aren't that bad from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: jackster96 on December 02, 2016, 12:38:45 PM
Anyone going to watch any of the shows? Im going to the one next Wednesday.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on December 02, 2016, 03:04:40 PM
Dallas Campbell is also with Suzi Perry for a bit of Team Ex-Gadget Show action.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: jackster96 on December 11, 2016, 08:02:12 AM
Has there been a full list made of all of the competitors from this new series? watched the 2 semi final matches but missed the final as i'd of missed the last train :L was great though.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on December 11, 2016, 08:15:26 AM
I'm sure if you asked around on Reddit, someone would help you out.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: cephalopod on December 11, 2016, 08:14:28 PM
Even their full lists are incomplete and inaccurate.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: kix on December 11, 2016, 11:59:41 PM
There is on facebook a list of non selected/denied bots..
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Jammy Dodger on December 12, 2016, 10:48:27 AM
They haven't said anything and I don't think they will, you'll have to wait probpley for the whole show to be on TV :V
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on December 22, 2016, 08:52:25 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04m6f3v

Battle Of The Stars intro.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on December 22, 2016, 10:39:34 AM
My money's on that mini-Tombstone.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Jammy Dodger on December 22, 2016, 10:47:02 AM
My money is on the bad T-minus I'm seeing a pattern here hmmm
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on December 22, 2016, 11:05:35 AM
I'm just elated that I'm going to get to see at least 1 front hinge flipper fight.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TommyProductionsInc on December 22, 2016, 11:07:31 AM
I look forward to seeing that Ming 3 rip-off. :P
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Scorpio on December 25, 2016, 12:46:53 AM
Just FYI, the heats appear to be:
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on December 28, 2016, 03:13:42 PM
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: jackster96 on December 28, 2016, 04:24:03 PM
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Thyrus on December 30, 2016, 01:29:55 AM
Is it weird that we've got an extra fight in the first episode with the two hosts fighting but not a fight of the two winners in the secon episode?


Most of those names... they sound like they've played RA2 for the first time..
The Cat, Kadeena Machina, Robo Savage, Arena Cleaner...
Also what's up with all the bots exept freaking Dee using all the same wheels? has there been some kind of restrictment? All bots had to be 2 WD with the same wheels and the same motors?

In episode 2 there was... dabbing... the hell?

I'm looking forward to RFS' Update on this as it pretty much writes it self

Appart from those rants I'm glad Ellis finally made a reliable spinning robot :P Good work on that machine. I don't think we will ever see them again
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: F1Krazy on December 30, 2016, 01:39:48 AM
Also what's up with all the bots exept freaking Dee using all the same wheels? has there been some kind of restrictment? All bots had to be 2 WD with the same wheels and the same motors?
There might have been, just to save everyone time, money, and effort. I noticed they were all using T64s and had exposed wheels (though I think the second one is more for spectacle).

Appart from those rants I'm glad Ellis finally made a reliable spinning robot :P Good work on that machine. I don't think we will ever see them again
Maybe not, but perhaps that means he's also got the kinks in Pulsar worked out? I hope so. It'd be good to see what it's capable of when it's not stopping every five seconds.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Merrick on December 30, 2016, 02:02:17 AM
Is it weird that we've got an extra fight in the first episode with the two hosts fighting but not a fight of the two winners in the secon episode?

Probably had something to do with the average episode 1 match ending after about 20 seconds....
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Avalanche on December 30, 2016, 07:07:04 AM
Is it weird that we've got an extra fight in the first episode with the two hosts fighting but not a fight of the two winners in the secon episode?

Probably had something to do with the average episode 1 match ending after about 20 seconds....

They also were expecting it to be a dvd extra, not included in the Show, according to someone on Facebook who was there at the filmings.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Conraaa on December 30, 2016, 11:12:53 AM
There was an interview that took place which I was in the background for that didn't make it into the first special. I presume that's why we got all the godawful Overdozer/Terrorhurtz filler bits in its place.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Avalanche on December 30, 2016, 11:17:19 AM
There was an interview that took place which I was in the background for that didn't make it into the first special. I presume that's why we got all the godawful Overdozer/Terrorhurtz filler bits in its place.

Those serve a decent purpose tho: They introduce first time viewers into what RW is like when it isn't a celebrity special. IIRC we saw less of em in episode 2 because of the higher quality of the matches.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Conraaa on December 30, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
I haven't watched the second episode yet, but my problem with those filler bits in EP1 was that they were awfully introduced and edited. The interview they didn't shove in couldn't have been that bad, could it? Was I making funny faces in the background by accident?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Avalanche on December 30, 2016, 11:42:50 AM
I haven't watched the second episode yet, but my problem with those filler bits in EP1 was that they were awfully introduced and edited. The interview they didn't shove in couldn't have been that bad, could it? Was I making funny faces in the background by accident?

I didn't think they were THAT bad.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on December 31, 2016, 10:38:35 AM
There was an interview that took place which I was in the background for that didn't make it into the first special. I presume that's why we got all the godawful Overdozer/Terrorhurtz filler bits in its place.
I thought the idea of the Christmas specials was to attract people who hadn't watched the main series, if that's true then the clips make sense.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Scorpio on January 23, 2017, 04:28:34 AM
Just watched ep. 1


EDIT: And now I've watched Part 2

Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dark-Al on February 16, 2017, 06:59:27 AM
Bulk, nerco post here.
I found this from the BBC Media Centre website, after stumbling upon the link on the Robot Wars Reddit page. The page confirms the air date and the who's completing in the first episode and new features of Series 9 (2 whatever) of Robot Wars. If you don't be spoiled, then don't look on the page or look at your own risk. 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2017/10/robotwars (http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2017/10/robotwars)
Edit: Useless grammar fix
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Philippa on February 16, 2017, 07:16:28 AM
If you don't be spoiled, then don't look on the page or look at your own risk.
But there aren't any spoilers.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dark-Al on February 16, 2017, 07:18:37 AM
If you don't be spoiled, then don't look on the page or look at your own risk.
But there aren't any spoilers.
Shhh, it's only for the ones who want be surprised when it airs on TV. Which is no one on these forms.
But still, what are your thoughts about this?
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: kix on February 16, 2017, 07:21:38 AM
Well.. THZ is in it!
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on February 16, 2017, 09:21:52 AM
I'm surprised that Kill-E-Crank-E of all bots is back, they must have something good.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: kix on February 16, 2017, 09:25:22 AM
I'm surprised that Kill-E-Crank-E of all bots is back, they must have something good.
Me too! I was hoping for Pussycat though..
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: doot on February 16, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
I'm surprised that Kill-E-Crank-E of all bots is back, they must have something good.
ayyyyyyyyyy Top KECE m8
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dark-Al on February 16, 2017, 10:57:02 AM
I'm surprised that Kill-E-Crank-E of all bots is back, they must have something good.
Kill-E-Crank-E was not only ridiculously long for a Robot of this generation, but somewhat ineffective in terms of weaponry (The disk couldn't run fast enough to cause damage. 450 RPM max speed if you want an idea) . But still, all hope given to Robin Herrick for that he can pull something off better this time around and possibly make it to the head-to-heads if lucky enough.

Still, I have seen some images of JellyFish on Instagram, or rather on a competitor spreadsheet on the Robot Wars Reddit. You won't be too surprised on the looks and the weaponry.   

Edit: Got the RPM wrong for Kill-E-Crank-E, It's 450 RPM not 500 RPM
Edit 2: Grammar Fix
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: kix on February 16, 2017, 11:37:29 AM

Still, I have seen some images of JellyFish on Instagram, or rather on a competitor spreadsheet on the Robot Wars Reddit. You won't be too surprised on the looks and the weaponry.   
Can i see it? Ive been searching it for hours, and no luck!
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dark-Al on February 22, 2017, 10:24:18 AM
Another Necro-Post. I finally found out the air date and time of the New series of Robot Wars, on the BBC Two Twitter Page. It appears that they will show the first episode of Series 9 of Robot Wars before Series 24 of Top Gear which is on an hour later.
Link to the Tweet: https://twitter.com/BBCTwo/status/834418838108241920
Just ignore the bottom image. Unless you like to see an animated GIF, it's not worth your time.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: helloface on February 24, 2017, 08:10:17 PM
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/robotwars/images/d/dd/Pain.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20090713010345)
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on February 27, 2017, 10:47:55 AM
Website updated with all competitors and photos: http://www.robotwars.tv/
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dreamcast on February 27, 2017, 10:54:21 AM
Website updated with all competitors and photos: http://www.robotwars.tv/

Sweet.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dark-Al on February 27, 2017, 11:06:54 AM
Damn it Squirrel_Monkey! I was about to post that!

Anyway, sorry for the outburst. But I had have a look at most of competitors and like everyone, I have high expectations of this series. Especially on some of the competitors like Heavy metal which I wasn't expecting the looks of the machine; Cobra, Carbide, and Expulsion. I was also a bit curious around Week two competitor HoboGoblin, the BBC media centre mentioned about HoboGoblin in the episode 2's line-up, but like everyone, I didn't have any clue of what HoboGoblin was and looked like, due to the lack of any photos from the team till now.

Again the page has been cobbled together and not professionally lay out on the site like last year with the fancy buttons, finalist side bar and such, but the site was recently updated today and over time, the administers and page designers will improve the site whenever they have the time. Still it give us an idea on whose competing and what we might expect from the series.

Now, time to make bets.         
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Mouldy on February 27, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
I watched mainly Week 3.

Oh boy, was it fun.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: kix on February 27, 2017, 12:55:37 PM
Well.. just seen some competitors...
Aftershock is just damn awesome!
Like the looks of that front hinged flipper bot(forgot its name)
Concussion is also great..
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Thyrus on February 27, 2017, 12:58:09 PM
Interesting to see Carbite and apollo in the same heat.
They cut mr speed squared in half :D
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Gulden on February 27, 2017, 01:02:23 PM
Glad to see crushtacean again.
It has always been a personal favorite of mine.

Hobgoblin and Tauron are particularly interesting bots that might cause an upset or two.

However, the one I really want to watch is Coyote.  It kinda reminds me of Diesector.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: kix on February 27, 2017, 01:04:20 PM
Glad to see crushtacean again.
It has always been a personal favorite of mine.

Hobgoblin and Tauron are particularly interesting bots that might cause an upset or two.

However, the one I really want to watch is Coyote.  It kinda reminds me of Diesector.

Crushtacean is back? I am surprised!
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Dark-Al on February 27, 2017, 01:33:46 PM
Glad to see crushtacean again.
It has always been a personal favorite of mine.

Hobgoblin and Tauron are particularly interesting bots that might cause an upset or two.

However, the one I really want to watch is Coyote.  It kinda reminds me of Diesector.

Crushtacean is back? I am surprised!
Yeah, but it's in a very spinner-heavy heat however. Not sure how long it'll survive against modern day spinners but it's good to see Crushtacean again.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRoboteer on February 27, 2017, 02:59:41 PM
I think the award for "Most Improved Robot" can go to (Kill-E) Crank-E. That thing actually looks pretty ****ing good. A worthy successor to the legendary Pussycat. Still, rooting for Push to Exit though.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Badnik96 on February 27, 2017, 04:59:56 PM
lots of good robots this year, with a couple of comedy and legacy robots to round out the field. i can't help but be mystified that draven came back while tr2 didnt
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Mouldy on March 01, 2017, 04:13:41 AM
lots of good robots this year, with a couple of comedy and legacy robots to round out the field. i can't help but be mystified that draven came back while tr2 didnt

The TR2 team mentioned that they weren't coming back this year. Can't remember the reason, though.

Yeah, the bots this year are sexy. Love the design of Rapid. Bit of a shame to not see Razer or Storm, though.
Title: Re: Robot Wars Series 2 Discussion Thread
Post by: Avalanche on March 01, 2017, 04:20:01 AM
lots of good robots this year, with a couple of comedy and legacy robots to round out the field. i can't help but be mystified that draven came back while tr2 didnt

The TR2 team mentioned that they weren't coming back this year. Can't remember the reason, though.

Yeah, the bots this year are sexy. Love the design of Rapid. Bit of a shame to not see Razer or Storm, though.

They apparently didn't do enough upgrades or additions to come back. This of course is total BS, as they totally overhauled TR2 for a new one seen in Episode 1 of RW:BOTS. As a result, I think personally Mentorn were either scared of flippers not working properly because they filmed in a Scotland warehouse in the middle of bloody winter (the morons) so CO2 might freeze up in the bottles of pneumatics, they prbably wanted to shift the balance of robots from flippers over to spinners, or (conspiracy theory) they may have been scared that they'd have a second Flipper champion, similar to how they feared Storm II would be another rammer champion after Tornado, and chose to not accept TR2 as a result, but as a courtesy gesture gave them a reserve status and a appearance on BOTS.