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Off-Topic => Real Robotics => Real Robotics Discussion => Topic started by: qwertythe300th on May 31, 2015, 11:25:46 PM
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Yes. By US style I mean Spinners. Jonno has 2 HW/FW events planned out in 2016 featuring 1 on 1 Double Elimination full combat events, no house robot interference plus a new arena. The events will be filmed.
Discuss, I wonder if any old spinners from RW, or maybe even entries from the USA will be there.
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'US style combat' we just call it full combat, we still have full combat in the feathers for the Championships :P
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The events will be filmed.
Discuss, I wonder if any old spinners from RW,
First off it's called full combat as Craaig says.
Secondly it's a maybe, Jonnos thinking that hosting an annual full combat event with the right safety precautions should make television companies feel more inclined to make a deal.
Old spinners from RW, well all of them will get absolutely wrecked but there are a few of the old roboteers who are interested in building something new, a few of them are the classic teams we've been speaking to for the game. But don't expect them to instantly return and be as good as the American spinners. Also our current heavyweights are not designed to take on spinners so if Jonnos plans all go ahead then just about everyone will be building new robots.
Also, why don't you just post screenshots of Jonno's Facebook posts? Would bee a lot easier than a short post which slightly misinterprets the information given.
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I'm extremely skeptical of this purely because of the sheer cost of such an event, I'm not convinced Jonno can see it through. No offence to him, but it took Battlebots 13 years to get a show on and his arena cannot take spinners. Hell it can barely contain flying heavyweights as it is. He'd need a whole new arena, somewhere to keep it and most of all almost every machine in the country would need a total rebuild.
As for old robots, no. Not gonna happen. Old robot would be decimated against modern machines, and nobody is stupid enough to try.
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This is a complete Health + safety nightmare. If spinners are to be intorduced then,
1] the arena MUST be contained at ALL times REGARDLESS of type of fight.
2] the bots must be inspected at least by a member of staff who understands the sport. (preferable 3 people)
3] Make sure all competitors understand the risks of taking part.
4] at least 2-3 fire marshals on stand by during combat and 1 through out (incase any mini fires happen)
5] must have a first aider on site (though this can be 1 person)
6] Seating for spectators must be safe and have extra.
7] security is a must, we are dealing with robotics here, expensive equipment could go missing easily (providing lockers or a station to hand in bags would be useful)
8] if being filmed the camera crew MUST BE PROTECTED. last thing we want is debris flying at them.
9] an emergancy evac plan (fire exits etc).
10] parking spaces/ routes into the venue.
11]catering (be it self or provided[with an area with this specific function])
theres probably more to this then described but I imagine this is what would be considered Major Requirements show/competition.
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This is a complete Health + safety nightmare. If spinners are to be intorduced then,
1] the arena MUST be contained at ALL times REGARDLESS of type of fight.
2] the bots must be inspected at least by a member of staff who understands the sport. (preferable 3 people)
3] Make sure all competitors understand the risks of taking part.
4] at least 2-3 fire marshals on stand by during combat and 1 through out (incase any mini fires happen)
5] must have a first aider on site (though this can be 1 person)
6] Seating for spectators must be safe and have extra.
7] security is a must, we are dealing with robotics here, expensive equipment could go missing easily (providing lockers or a station to hand in bags would be useful)
8] if being filmed the camera crew MUST BE PROTECTED. last thing we want is debris flying at them.
9] an emergancy evac plan (fire exits etc).
10] parking spaces/ routes into the venue.
11]catering (be it self or provided[with an area with this specific function])
theres probably more to this then described but I imagine this is what would be considered Major Requirements show/competition.
Most of that already happens at shows. From memory, 1, 2, 3, 4 (pretty much), 5, 6, 9, 10, 11 all already happen (or should be happening).
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Technically 8 also happens if someone is filming the event, they are protected by the arena.
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Fair enough, though one does speculate about advertising.
Even all above are adhered to, surely even more would be needed?
or am i just being an idiot again?
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His events already check out with health and safety, the only further considerations that need taking into account are the use of high KE spinners, which will mainly just require an arena capable of holding them. This is, to me, where this falls down. It would be awesome and there's no doubt that if it goes ahead I'm in there, but I just don't think that a class 1 heavyweight arena is affordable.
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Apart from the arena, not a lot will be different CC. All bots with moving weapons already have safety locks built into them (usually bears through moving parts to stop them moving) so it's not as if that's a different thing either.
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Huh, well with the volitile impacts that class 1 spinners use it can be quite spectical but also quite the danger. I assume theres a minimal thickness of the 'glass' pannels must be? (of course including a roof too)
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Pretty much. I recall someone (Maybe Craig Danby, who pops up on here sometimes) saying how the Robogames arena uses 1 inch thick Polycarb on the lower panels and a half inch on the higher ones.
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Fixed the thread name.
Does this mean we won't get five posts every week about "where are the spinners??".
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Huh, well with the volitile impacts that class 1 spinners use it can be quite spectical but also quite the danger. I assume theres a minimal thickness of the 'glass' pannels must be? (of course including a roof too)
The FRA rules say 20mm polycarbonate.
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The rules say 20mm but there was a bit of discussion at the Featherweight Championships this year on reviewing the arena guidelines after Shard broke all the things.
That and I think there's some inspiration being taken from the new Battlebox which I'm told is as close to indestructible as they can reasonably get...
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I guess i should pay more attention to the fra forums lol
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Oooh first RA3, then Battlebots and now Robot Wars? can this year get any better... Robotica maybe? Whoops I'm getting greedy.