Quote from: Craaig on February 27, 2013, 06:03:08 AMI believe the other thing is if lots of spinners are allowed in more events, more bots will be destroyed, and with teams having much less money and just doing it as a hobby, repairing seems unlikely.ExactlyJust to put it into perspective, this has been our calendar of weekends for February to April:TelfordBarnsleyWhitwickWeekend offPortsmouthYorkWeekend offGadget Show Live (UK Champs)ColchesterWeekend offBurgess HillWe don't have enough time between events to be fixing robots due to spinners, or the money considering how many events there are (and therefore the amount of repairs required). For us to have spinners back, the whole format and style of events would have to change, and this has not happened. This is simply rebranding, nothing more. For example, the whole reason the Americans still have spinners is because there are only 2 or 3 heavyweight events per year. In the UK we're likely to have around 20 events this year. Hence you can probably see from the roboteers' perspective that we prefer lots of events without spinners!Not forgetting to upgrade one of the current heavyweight arenas to class 1 it would cost around £30,000, which the event orgranisers cannot afford.The last reason is that we don't need spinners. The shows are now selling out pretty consistently. And that doesn't mean there is no damage anymore. To the audience Thor is pretty spectacular, and I think Tiberius causes enough damage for the shows!
I believe the other thing is if lots of spinners are allowed in more events, more bots will be destroyed, and with teams having much less money and just doing it as a hobby, repairing seems unlikely.
Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on February 27, 2013, 08:56:30 PMQuote from: Vertigo on February 27, 2013, 11:59:53 AMQuote from: Craaig on February 27, 2013, 06:03:08 AMI believe the other thing is if lots of spinners are allowed in more events, more bots will be destroyed, and with teams having much less money and just doing it as a hobby, repairing seems unlikely.ExactlyJust to put it into perspective, this has been our calendar of weekends for February to April:TelfordBarnsleyWhitwickWeekend offPortsmouthYorkWeekend offGadget Show Live (UK Champs)ColchesterWeekend offBurgess HillWe don't have enough time between events to be fixing robots due to spinners, or the money considering how many events there are (and therefore the amount of repairs required). For us to have spinners back, the whole format and style of events would have to change, and this has not happened. This is simply rebranding, nothing more. For example, the whole reason the Americans still have spinners is because there are only 2 or 3 heavyweight events per year. In the UK we're likely to have around 20 events this year. Hence you can probably see from the roboteers' perspective that we prefer lots of events without spinners!Not forgetting to upgrade one of the current heavyweight arenas to class 1 it would cost around £30,000, which the event orgranisers cannot afford.The last reason is that we don't need spinners. The shows are now selling out pretty consistently. And that doesn't mean there is no damage anymore. To the audience Thor is pretty spectacular, and I think Tiberius causes enough damage for the shows!Have you thought about doing a Kickstarter? I don't know what kinds of projects you're hoping to get done, but there's got to be something big that you could ask people to fund, maybe that 30k pound arena upgrade? You could use the unsold Robots Extreme Wars merch as donor prizes. (I'm assuming you work with the organizers, right?)Even if we were able to have spinners, it would still be a bad idea. Due to the situation we are in repairing after each event would be impossible, in terms of both time and cost. Eruption will have to do 7 events (around 40 fights), without any repairs whatsoever.And we don't work with the event organisers, but we're one of the 'higher up' roboteers that go to all the events, know all the secret stuff they're doing, help them to run some of the smaller events when not many people are there and sometimes suggest stuff to them and are sometimes consulted about stuff. We don't really work with them, more help them sometimes. We knew about the negotiations with Robot Wars ages ago, and one other thing that's still a pretty big secret :P
Quote from: Vertigo on February 27, 2013, 11:59:53 AMQuote from: Craaig on February 27, 2013, 06:03:08 AMI believe the other thing is if lots of spinners are allowed in more events, more bots will be destroyed, and with teams having much less money and just doing it as a hobby, repairing seems unlikely.ExactlyJust to put it into perspective, this has been our calendar of weekends for February to April:TelfordBarnsleyWhitwickWeekend offPortsmouthYorkWeekend offGadget Show Live (UK Champs)ColchesterWeekend offBurgess HillWe don't have enough time between events to be fixing robots due to spinners, or the money considering how many events there are (and therefore the amount of repairs required). For us to have spinners back, the whole format and style of events would have to change, and this has not happened. This is simply rebranding, nothing more. For example, the whole reason the Americans still have spinners is because there are only 2 or 3 heavyweight events per year. In the UK we're likely to have around 20 events this year. Hence you can probably see from the roboteers' perspective that we prefer lots of events without spinners!Not forgetting to upgrade one of the current heavyweight arenas to class 1 it would cost around £30,000, which the event orgranisers cannot afford.The last reason is that we don't need spinners. The shows are now selling out pretty consistently. And that doesn't mean there is no damage anymore. To the audience Thor is pretty spectacular, and I think Tiberius causes enough damage for the shows!Have you thought about doing a Kickstarter? I don't know what kinds of projects you're hoping to get done, but there's got to be something big that you could ask people to fund, maybe that 30k pound arena upgrade? You could use the unsold Robots Extreme Wars merch as donor prizes. (I'm assuming you work with the organizers, right?)
It's not a poor argument. What you've got to realise is that our robots are built for a different purpose to those in the US. We build robots with less armour, putting more weight into powerful weapons that throw stuff around and look spectacular. US robots put a lot more weight into armour to stand up to spinners and consequently their robots (bar the spinners) are much less spectacular than ours, which is made up by the fact that the spinners are. Put our robots in a US arena and they wouldn't stand a chance. Put US robots in our arena and they wouldn't stand a chance.And rebuilding a heavyweight in 20 minutes is a very tall order. I cannot see this being realistic.The US has gone the way it has because robots that face spinners have to be so much tougher. Introduce spinners here and it would go the same way (spinners and boxes). Us roboteers don't think this would be a better approach!
Quote from: Vertigo on February 28, 2013, 05:35:50 PMIt's not a poor argument. What you've got to realise is that our robots are built for a different purpose to those in the US. We build robots with less armour, putting more weight into powerful weapons that throw stuff around and look spectacular. US robots put a lot more weight into armour to stand up to spinners and consequently their robots (bar the spinners) are much less spectacular than ours, which is made up by the fact that the spinners are. Put our robots in a US arena and they wouldn't stand a chance. Put US robots in our arena and they wouldn't stand a chance.And rebuilding a heavyweight in 20 minutes is a very tall order. I cannot see this being realistic.The US has gone the way it has because robots that face spinners have to be so much tougher. Introduce spinners here and it would go the same way (spinners and boxes). Us roboteers don't think this would be a better approach!Fair enough, I agree that as it stands today, the UK bots are more fit for TV than the US ones. Would it work to allow spinners with restrictions? For instance, Dragon Con has a hard limit of 20 ft/second tip speed, which isn't very much at a heavyweight level.
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