I never really liked Pussycat
I never liked Tornado much. It's a red box with four wheels and tire guards. Plus it cheated against Razer.Well I never really liked Razer anyway.
I'm 11 dumbassCut it out dude. Swearing hurts my ears.
Without a doubt, my least favourite robot is Tough as Nails (Or "Cheap as Chips" as I like to call it). I mean, that thing won only by the cheapest methods possible-immediately grabbing opponents and pitting them-no action, and always boring and predictable.
Plus how they pitted Disc-O-Inferno (Who I looked forward to seeing that year, and was dominating the fight!), and did Panic Attack and RoboChicken out of their respective victories.
And then there's the World Championship. We could've had GRAVITY in there, but nooo....
I was so happy when Bulldog Breed and Storm II gave that cheap excuse for a robot a taste of its own medicine.
Without a doubt, my least favourite robot is Tough as Nails (Or "Cheap as Chips" as I like to call it)
dude listen, biohazard was ingeniously designed and was the first liftor, flipper and he had a good, not show offy driver, thta why he has 12 awards and killed everyone in his pathTeam Loki
oh, and I want you to tell me the team and driver of turbo
I dislike Roadblock. I don't consider a wedge as a real weapon. It is a ramp on wheels.I dislike Carts. I don't consider an oversized plank of wood as a tool for transport. It is an oversized box on wheels.
I dont hate any robots, they are all needed to make the show ... if you looked at my post.. it was situations I disliked :mrgreen:
TAN shouldnt have been able to pit from the start of the match... I wanted to watch robots fight, this is a problem with robot wars changing the pit strategy
Tornado, RW shouldnt have let them use that frame, smart idea but horribly overlooked, you would think they would learn but they let them use it again :ermm:
watch tornado vs storm 2 the BBC cut out a part when tornado reversed into the pit and the pit rose back up to let him outFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
watch tornado vs storm 2 the BBC cut out a part when tornado reversed into the pit and the pit rose back up to let him outFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Bloody Mentorn...they didn't used to be so biased towards certain robots!
But seriously, the pit rule (Once you're in, you're out) should've applied to every robot. No exceptions, especially to a red box driven by unsporting arses.
Even a certain front-hinged flipper with pit-escaping spike?Well yes, if it makes competition fair. I mean, Cassius II was pitted in that fight primarily due to Pussycat's good driving, and falling into the pit at the wrong angle (So it couldn't use the spike to escape).
Uhhhh....It was actually Five who ran Series 7 that year. The BBC sold the rights to them.watch tornado vs storm 2 the BBC cut out a part when tornado reversed into the pit and the pit rose back up to let him outFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Bloody Mentorn...they didn't used to be so biased towards certain robots!
But seriously, the pit rule (Once you're in, you're out) should've applied to every robot. No exceptions, especially to a red box driven by unsporting arses.
its not actually mentorn it is the bbc
they tried so hard to stop storm II becoming champ
oh and the bbc told the judges to let typhoon win instead of storm II because it was apparently "boring"
Warhog, what a joke! It qualified thrice for Robot Wars, and despite having a huge spinner, all it ever broke was the arena wall. What a waste of speed and power, it's like making french fries out of New Potatoes. After it lost to freakin' Napalm in Series 5, that should have been indication that Warhog was not cut out for Robot Wars. Why is it that so many decent robots were rejected from Series 6 whilst Warhog was given yet another chance?'cause they needed fodder
Warhog, what a joke! It qualified thrice for Robot Wars, and despite having a huge spinner, all it ever broke was the arena wall. What a waste of speed and power, it's like making french fries out of New Potatoes. After it lost to freakin' Napalm in Series 5, that should have been indication that Warhog was not cut out for Robot Wars. Why is it that so many decent robots were rejected from Series 6 whilst Warhog was given yet another chance?'cause they needed fodder
Voltronic 'nough said.QFT.
I personally despised the "non serious" bots that actually competed in Battlebots. I think any bot that won against them got a free pass and cheap win. Watching these bots compete was a waste of time really. I forget the actual names of them... because I don't really care about them that much.
-The RC truck towing a trailer of lego
-Buddy Lee bot
-Super Chia bot
another bot I'm not to fond of is mortis, obviouse reasonsAh, the team? I thought that the robot was quite brilliant, but the team (Especially Rob) were a bunch of overconfident prats.
do you only not like 13 black because they knocked the drive chains off chaos 2 ?The bloody thing practically destroyed it! Seeing Chaos 2 in that state was admittedly, one of my worst ever moments in RW.
...and psycho went to town on the chassis, hitting it with the hammer.. I heard it was that irreparable chassis damage that put it out.Meh, well that part mentioned was probably the worst of it there. I mean, if I can be honest, I don't see Razer, 13 Black, or Mr. Psycho couldn't just flip or pit it once they realised it was immobilised, instead of trying to utterly rip it to pieces!
Most of the noise is coming from Lightning which is dragging it's front end around
TORNADO: Are these guys serious??? Razor is Cheap too but changing your design at the last second is like screaming I'M GAY on a beach with a rainbow speedo on.I'm not following your analogy.
TORNADO: Are these guys serious??? Razor is Cheap too but changing your design at the last second is like screaming I'M GAY on a beach with a rainbow speedo on.I'm not following your analogy.
Bots I didn't like:
Any of the Toro bots--I don't remember why. They were just awsome.
Dr. Inferno Jr.--It was a heck of a pusher, but those arm weapons were far too funny for me to understand
Mechavore--As a Vlad the Impaler fan, I wasn't pleased when Mechavore destroyed it., machavores builder was a cocky basterd
That Jay Leno bot--Jay Leno is awsome
HALF, of it wasThat wasn't Vader though, it was IG-88. You could tell by how there wasn't a disc, but two rotary axes instead.
have you ever seen a test of vader? he sounds like a helicopter lol but I guess it was also lightning
Jay Leno is a douchebag.I'm with Coco.
Sunshine Lolibot was weird. It hurt my eyes seeing all that red!
Tough as Nails is my favourite bot of all time, guys. It was designed elegantly and beautifully to take advantage of its surroundings in order to win. Plus, it was great to see a team with actual creativity for once, not "aw, well Chaos 2 won a while ago, so let's just build some flipper." Seriously, once Chaos 2 got it's first win, basically EVERY ROBOT WAS A DAMN WEDGE OR A FLIPPER. Wheely Big Cheese and Gravity were sweet, but every other flipper in Robot Wars drove me off-the-wall nuts.>= 0
I also really liked 13 Black too.
As for bots I really disliked, I did not like Chaos 2 at all, or Tornado, or Pussycat for that matter. I also didn't like Biohazard because it was really boring to watch, and I didn't like Hazard either. Although Hazard was at least exciting, it beat up Complete Control, which I wasn't too happy about.
so people dislike robots for being boring or cheap or not putting on a great show
but not you.. you hate the best robot for it was so good :P
its a lot of money involved so what make your robot breakable ?
I hated Spaz.
Hated it.
Seriously?
"LOL SPINNEH TING IN MIDDLE DAT HITZ A BOTZ WHEN DEY DRIVE LAWLZ"
And it won the MW championship!
I would have LOVED to see the grandfather on the Bad Attitude team go through.
But nooooo.
>:^(
I don't believe I actually agree with someone here. I absolutely effing HATE Spaz and its builder. If it wasn't for dumb luck in the semi-final of 2.0 vs. Bad Attitude, it never would've won the Middleweight Championship.So Spaz is to you what Tough as Nails (Cheap as Chips) is to me, right?
For those that were at RFSHQ a year or two back, you've seen my tirade against the builder Mike Regan. I don't want to relive it.
Also, not exactly under "bots I don't like" but rather "bots that could have been so much more": Drillzilla from Extreme 1. Even though the robot was 352 lbs (132 lbs heavier than the British competitors), all it had for weapons were two dinky little extensions from the sides of the robot and a drill that didn't work well in the back. In all honesty, if it had a much better weapon set-up, it would have won more matches than it did.
I'm 11 dumbass
then act like it
Final Destiny: A robot that self-destructs every time someone lifts up a skirt, that was a good idea!
pretty gay skin and wheels.
first off, it's name was rhinoWhat are you smoking. Yes Inertia labs built Rhino. But the one that fought in battlebots Longbeach 1999 and Vegas 1999. It had a pnumatic spike much like Rammstine. Yes it did have a heavy weight on the back and could act as a thwack. No FBS there. (IRL a FBS is a what is called a Sheck Spinner here) Yes there was a Halon Rhino (not official name but called it). It fough in RW 97 in the heavyweight division. Check your facts before you post.
second off, it was made by the viva el torro team
third off, he was the first FBS.
halon rhino was the origanal version, I geuss I was being ignorent. But one of it's attacks was to spin in place to make a cloud of halon. And FBS is a bot that spins in place. The SHW did have spike though.No, you're thinking of a Sit-and-Spin, or a "Thwackbot". A FBS is what in the RA2 community we call a Sheck Spinner.
yeah your both wrong :PF*ck. So a n00b is actually more knowledgable than me?
Sparkey is more correct though
as he noted Sheck Spinners are not Full Body Spinners, FBS are robots spinning the full mass (not just the outside armour) while having transitional movment (umm.. being able to follow and opponant while spinning)
Y-Pout and Why-Not are examples of FBS robots
your just in RW land, they basically make up whatever class they want :PAdmittedly, I do tend to relate a bit more to the terms in Robot Wars, having watched it since I was five = P
Storm 2 was called a full body hammer at one stage XD
Storm 2 was called a full body hammer at one stage XD
oh, and a SnS is an RA2 FBS
MEGACRAP Killed BIOHAZARD
it's that building and fighting a SS takes no skill
and an FBS works the same way as an SnS
FBS are robots spinning the full mass (not just the outside armour) while having transitional moment (umm.. being able to follow and opponant while spinning)
Y-Pout and Why-Not are examples of FBS robots
I hate shell spinners. They take NO skill what so ever they just SIT THERE untill an oponent just drives straight in!!!!!!!! MEGACRAP Killed BIOHAZARD :embarr :embarr I hate him (this dose not apile to RA2)They take no skill to build IRL. Sparkey, to show us that this is true, because you have barely any skill, go buil a SS that has motors for drive and the weapon.
Thwackbots use one or multiple bars or hammers to smash into the opposing robot while spinning
The one thing I hated was that retarded arse bot from RWS2 with the micro wave body and the retarded head, demolition man? I mean seriously WTF!
VS: Nightmare, 259, Backlashlook, an FBS is s Thwack/SnS with teeth instead of an arm.
HS: Hypnodisc, Surgeon General, Son of Whyachi
FBS Melty B
SS: Megabyte, Ziggo, Shredderator
Thwack/SnS: Blade Runner, Spaz, Herr Gepounden
there
PussycrapLOL WIN WIN WIN!
becasue they win without doing anything!!!!!!!!!!!
ook, an FBS is s Thwack/SnS with teeth instead of an arm.
What about that useless arm that pushed the robots. (series 3 i think)
What about that useless arm that pushed the robots. (series 3 i think)
Ah, you mean the Sentinel. It was basically the arm from a JCB digger with an enormous spike on the end. I hated it as an obstacle, as it could just sit its ass down in the middle of the track, and it was so big and heavy that no robot could do anything about it. It could even push the robots backwards if it so desired, but occasionally it would "miss" a robot and let it by.
It would be just as practical to roll a die, they'd have the same amount of control over how far their robot went.
Then Gemini came along. That robot was quite bad-ass in my opinion.
I disliked Bulldog Breed for a long time. I don't know why.Just as long as you're not referring to the last two versions =P
Meh, I also dislike No Apologies for beating my favorite at the time I first saw it, Minion.I disliked Dantomkia for a while for simular reasons, you know.
I disliked Bulldog Breed for a long time. I don't know why.
Toe Crusher was the worst hammer ever. It's a torque-reaction hammer, but there's no delay between between the hammer firing and the robot moving backwards. It's virtually incapable of hitting an oppoent, even if the opponent is standing still. But what really gets my goat is that it was a sponsor-bot; Christian Carslberg got a big check from Wizards of the Coast to build his robots, and this is the best he could do?
Toe Crusher was the worst hammer ever. It's a torque-reaction hammer, but there's no delay between between the hammer firing and the robot moving backwards. It's virtually incapable of hitting an oppoent, even if the opponent is standing still. But what really gets my goat is that it was a sponsor-bot; Christian Carslberg got a big check from Wizards of the Coast to build his robots, and this is the best he could do?
Considering he created it back in '98 or '99 (and thus was before Wizards' sponsorship), I would say no. Of course, he could have made it better, but methinks that's exactly what he was wanting to do.
flipper-flipper-flipper-flipper-flipper-Hypnodisk-flipper-flipper Robot Wars bots.
Flippers are the best. I always love to watch when example, Axe Awe flied... :gawe:flipper-flipper-flipper-flipper-flipper-Hypnodisk-flipper-flipper Robot Wars bots.
and biohazard, biohazard, biohazard, biohazard, biohazard wasnt the same :P
RW was spammed with flippers but they were not all winners.. most got cleaned up by spinners in the later series
I didn't like it when it eliminated Gemini in the Fourth wars
Favourite RW robot: Either Storm II, Razer, Chaos 2, or Cassius II
Favourite RW robot: Either Storm II, Razer, Chaos 2, or Cassius II
Don't YOU dare send me to the corner young man! :evilsmile:Favourite RW robot: Either Storm II, Razer, Chaos 2, or Cassius II
Cassius 2 is number 4?!
How dare you!
You go and join Reier in the corner. NOW.
I don't understand the backlash aganst TAN. It was really cleverly designed.Sure it had the potential, but we hate it because-
If you think about it, it was the cleverest design in the history of RW. It made use of the stuff around it very cleverly. Sure, it would fail in most arenas, but it was designed to be in the RW arena, and make use of that pit.Cleverest design in RW history? Right. Three robots.
You misunderstand me. I'm saying that due to the nature of the arena, TAN was very cleverly designed.No, it was just cheap.
If you think about it, it was the cleverest design in the history of RW. It made use of the stuff around it very cleverly. Sure, it would fail in most arenas, but it was designed to be in the RW arena, and make use of that pit.Cleverest design in RW history? Right. Three robots.
Tornado, Gemini and Anarchy.
I was just referring to how it could change weapons to suit opponent types.If you think about it, it was the cleverest design in the history of RW. It made use of the stuff around it very cleverly. Sure, it would fail in most arenas, but it was designed to be in the RW arena, and make use of that pit.Cleverest design in RW history? Right. Three robots.
Tornado, Gemini and Anarchy.
I have to stop you there though.. Storm 2 showed how obvious tornado was doing it wrong
I dont discount tornado's abilities, its great driver, or its time and effort put into it.. but if your going to make a pusher.. make it smash things into the wall and incredibly high rates of speed....
i hated voltarc biohazard tornado and diator
TAKE IT BACK I SAY
Getting back to Tough As Nails, and how it had no discernable weaponry, when Robot Wars moved onto Channel Five, the people who were running it at that point didn't even allow the ultra-tough Storm I to enter the qualifiers, because it was just a box with wheels, and was deemed "too boring", despite the fact it probably would've been a great competitor. I can't really see how TAN was allowed to compete and the original Storm wasn't.
they ended up being allowed in and they won meaning that got free entry into S7, the moving weapon rule was then brought in and they were forced to add the flipper.
[/end storm2history] :gawe:
dont get me started on the Storm 2 vs Tornado match
http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Storm_2/Controversy (http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Storm_2/Controversy)Shameless RWW advertising.
*Psst*
*D'ya think we should tell him that this is the 'least favourite robot' thread, and not the 'favourite robot' one?*
i didn't care. i just wanted someone to beatpussycat finallyBit of a sad way of looking at it really.
Tornado was like a really fast box that caused alot of controversy over the razer-proof thing.
Kat 3 - Dominator 2
Firestorm - Cassius
Every bot with a crushing beak - Razer
Gravity - Chaos 2
Tornado - Most Series 1 bots
Hydra - Mortis
Actually, Gravity - Dantomkia.
I think Hydra was like a cheap but better version of Mortis.
LONG LIVE HYDRA
same goes for the the loss of many others people mentioned...Because people hate it when a badass robot shows how badass it is, and then some random newbie comes up and is all: "LOL U DIED", and becomes the new champ.
Actually, Gravity - Dantomkia.
correct.. another example of showing someone your secrets and then they do it better then you would be Storm 2 - Tornado
I know why he doesn't like 360.. just watch that rumble he posted before.. we was lucky to get out in one piece :gawe:I posted that vid in my 'Team Invade' thread. But I've hated spinners from the time that I started roboteering. It was only in 2007 that FW spinners were banned from Roaming Robots/Robots Live events.
spinners are part of the game its all a matter of how you build, so what will it be? rock? paper? or scissors?
spinners are part of the game its all a matter of how you build, so what will it be? rock? paper? or scissors?
I like rock
spinners are part of the game its all a matter of how you build, so what will it be? rock? paper? or scissors?
I like rock
i hate rock, im more of a scissors man myself
Anyway I hate Razor not because of the bot but because of the team, they were so full of themselves and didnt let other robots have a chance.
Rock beats scissors though ;D
I would say Tough as NailsAn excellent choice there, sir!
TaN looked great... it's just really an horizontal razer.TAN uses pneumatics, razer uses hydraulics
Tough as Nails was amazing. Probably one of the most innovative and greatest designs ever to grace the Robot Wars arena. How can you hate it?Innovative? INNOVATIVE?! It was just more or less an oversized pair of tongs on wheels.
Where else in Robot Wars had there been a robot designed to grab and pit?
Where else in Robot Wars had there been a robot designed to grab and pit?Well it was Panic Attacks main way of winning. And panic attack was always my favourite.
I'd thought that panic attack had retired after that gold robot incident.
Oh yep.I'd thought that panic attack had retired after that gold robot incident.
you mean when they were on that drug trip ? :P
What happened and why was it gold?Well in season 6 panic attack III was not used by the panic attack team (i believe it was sold but that may just be a rumour).
They were on crystal meth, the color was so it wouldn't be obvious (personal joke) =PI'd thought that panic attack had retired after that gold robot incident.
you mean when they were on that drug trip ? :P
the robot itself structurally was as strong as Storm 2 (not talking about armour obviously :P) really... fast drive and making it invertible (it was pretty flat and no self righting ability) and it could have been a pretty effective robot.Exactly, infact i think they could have won another championship if they had made P.A invertible, at the very least got to another final.
but they decided to go for the slow pushing robots..
I'll name them off and try to give a legit reason:
Razer: The only thing I liked about them was it's design. Sleek, elegant very nice. What I didn't like was that there creators were d*cks and were sore losers.
Tornado: Cheaters by using the APD.
My philosophy on destruction:
Destruction is not the most important thing IMO. I would much rather win a fight with good driving, well exacted strategy, and immobilization of the opponent.
I'll name them off and try to give a legit reason:
Razer: The only thing I liked about them was it's design. Sleek, elegant very nice. What I didn't like was that there creators were d*cks and were sore losers.
Tornado: Cheaters by using the APD.
you failed at doing so :P
1) "creators are dicks" this is least favorite robot thread for a start.. second... do you actually know any of them ? RW was an entertainment TV show.. the stuff about Pussycat was blown stupidly out of proportion as was other grudge matches Robot Wars made.. all for the sake of entertainment. The other time that was noted of Ian's temper at a loss was against Tornado's APD.. which makes no sense to call him a sore looser if you call it cheating yourself ?
2) it wasnt cheating.. I wont deny it kinda raped the spirit of Robot Wars but it was legal. I still raise my eyebrows over why it was legal... but bottom line is, it was..
On my bot I run an almost identical thingie to Tornado and another doohickey for fighting sawbots. Does that put my bot on the hated robot list?
Maybe so, but it beating Chaos 2 had to come sooner or later, but made me sad nonetheless.
Blaarg, it hurts. Time for a spot of remedy-Maybe so, but it beating Chaos 2 had to come sooner or later, but made me sad nonetheless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_A46OGC7QI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_A46OGC7QI#)
:trollface
Napalm was just outdated, WAAAAAY outdated.Just like chaos 2 by series 6 :trollface
*Grabs Scorpion by the neck*Napalm was just outdated, WAAAAAY outdated.Just like chaos 2 by series 6 :trollface
*Grabs Scorpion by the neck*
*points at pwnator's avatar to distract GF**Grabs Scorpion by the neck*
would you grab George Francis by the neck also ?
because he said that Chaos 2 was outdated also ;)
there`s this bot... explosion or something. Don`t like it. ;PLOL
Ah. I remember now, I realise I saw that comment in an issue of the Robot Wars magazine.*Grabs Scorpion by the neck*
would you grab George Francis by the neck also ?
because he said that Chaos 2 was outdated also ;)
There's a Robot Wars Magazine?Yes, there used to be one.
Wow, reading through this entire thread, lots of abrupt opinions.And yet, I was surprised noone mentioned Spikasaurus until a few posts back.
I've been watching Robot Wars Extreme II on Dave, and it strucke me that Ed Hoppit from the Storm II team was actually really annoying.And I have to listen to him commentate at EVERY robots live event D:
On the plus side though, he's a bit more tolerable than that soulless-sounding woman from Roaming Robots.I've been watching Robot Wars Extreme II on Dave, and it strucke me that Ed Hoppit from the Storm II team was actually really annoying.And I have to listen to him commentate at EVERY robots live event D:
No, he's worseOn the plus side though, he's a bit more tolerable than that soulless-sounding woman from Roaming Robots.I've been watching Robot Wars Extreme II on Dave, and it strucke me that Ed Hoppit from the Storm II team was actually really annoying.And I have to listen to him commentate at EVERY robots live event D:
Why does everyone like razer?
Conquering Clown. Enough said.:beer:
I really disliked Gravedigger for some reason.
You haven't seen it in real life then, matey :rageI really disliked Gravedigger for some reason.
I never liked Cassius, mostly because on Advanced Destruction (The only thing I ever had with him on when I was a kid, since I missed series 2 and most of series 3), he couldn't flip a bloody thing.
You haven't seen it in real life then, matey :rageI really disliked Gravedigger for some reason.
I never liked Cassius, mostly because on Advanced Destruction (The only thing I ever had with him on when I was a kid, since I missed series 2 and most of series 3), he couldn't flip a bloody thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzB_-a9q57s&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzB_-a9q57s&feature=related#)You haven't seen it in real life then, matey :rageI really disliked Gravedigger for some reason.
I never liked Cassius, mostly because on Advanced Destruction (The only thing I ever had with him on when I was a kid, since I missed series 2 and most of series 3), he couldn't flip a bloody thing.
Send me a link, and i'll be sure to check it out ;)
casius is a pore ripoff of........................................................ damn*Snaps Sparkey's neck and stamps on his head*
:trollface
Cassius II was badly driven. :gawe:That, I'll admit. Heck, even I could've driven it better than Mick Cutter did :rolleyes:
Cassius II was badly driven. :gawe:
I think I disliked Gravedigger because it looked so half-assed. It had a miniscule flipping arm that couldn't flip stuff over properly, and it looked boring as heck. Brown slanty box...nice. And the supposedly improved versions both were abysmal failures.
And Panic Attack was a very well-designed robot, which was driven extremely well for the first couple of series it took part in. It was getting quite outdated by the end of its life, admittedly, but it was still a good piece of design and driving.
casius is a pore ripoff of........................................................ damn*Snaps Sparkey's neck and stamps on his head*
:trollface
Nobody insults Cassius II on my watch, you heathen :FFFUUU
Same builder, you nub :ermm:Cassius II was badly driven. :gawe:
I think I disliked Gravedigger because it looked so half-assed. It had a miniscule flipping arm that couldn't flip stuff over properly, and it looked boring as heck. Brown slanty box...nice. And the supposedly improved versions both were abysmal failures.
And Panic Attack was a very well-designed robot, which was driven extremely well for the first couple of series it took part in. It was getting quite outdated by the end of its life, admittedly, but it was still a good piece of design and driving.
I loved gravedigger. It had a weaponed flipper, so it was the first popup!casius is a pore ripoff of........................................................ damn*Snaps Sparkey's neck and stamps on his head*
:trollface
Nobody insults Cassius II on my watch, you heathen :FFFUUU
Cassius 2 was a bad ripoff of Cassius 1 :trollface
That was a joke.Same builder, you nub :ermm:Cassius II was badly driven. :gawe:
I think I disliked Gravedigger because it looked so half-assed. It had a miniscule flipping arm that couldn't flip stuff over properly, and it looked boring as heck. Brown slanty box...nice. And the supposedly improved versions both were abysmal failures.
And Panic Attack was a very well-designed robot, which was driven extremely well for the first couple of series it took part in. It was getting quite outdated by the end of its life, admittedly, but it was still a good piece of design and driving.
I loved gravedigger. It had a weaponed flipper, so it was the first popup!casius is a pore ripoff of........................................................ damn*Snaps Sparkey's neck and stamps on his head*
:trollface
Nobody insults Cassius II on my watch, you heathen :FFFUUU
Cassius 2 was a bad ripoff of Cassius 1 :trollface
Jokes are supposed to be funny aren't they?That is, when it's not reversing into the pit :rolleyes:
And yes, panic attack was, and still is, the win.
Nobody's perfect, and that "anti-pit" device on Cassius 2 was far from perfect.Jokes are supposed to be funny aren't they?That is, when it's not reversing into the pit :rolleyes:
And yes, panic attack was, and still is, the win.
Again, mainly due to bad driving from both teams :rolleyes:Nobody's perfect, and that "anti-pit" device on Cassius 2 was far from perfect.Jokes are supposed to be funny aren't they?That is, when it's not reversing into the pit :rolleyes:
And yes, panic attack was, and still is, the win.
That's how brilliant P.A was, it died to atone for other bots sins :gawe:And it also liked Spiders :mrgreen:
There really isn't any robot I don't like (joke bots FTW) unless it's unoriginal or from a cheater team (starts with an M...)Myphoon? Mornado?
P.A's paint job was the best in RW if you ask me.That's how brilliant P.A was, it died to atone for other bots sins :gawe:And it also liked Spiders :mrgreen:
There really isn't any robot I don't like (joke bots FTW) unless it's unoriginal or from a cheater team (starts with an M...)Mega Morg?
Did any of those bots that actualy have M names cheat :ermm:What did Mortis do to cheat, apart from the Pinball incident?
The pinball insedent is all I know of.Did any of those bots that actualy have M names cheat :ermm:What did Mortis do to cheat, apart from the Pinball incident?
Precisely. It was actually a result of executive meddling to put Mortis through. During this time, Rob Knight thought it was unfair and refused to drive Mortis for run 2, which explained the change in drivers for the next two rounds. Sad thing is though, it scored only 35 points in the run, which would have put it out anyway, but the meddling executives put it up as exactly 100 points to keep Mortis in. Last time I checked, Rob still thought this was unfair after he was put through, further explaining why he didn't drive against Panic Attack.The pinball insedent is all I know of.Did any of those bots that actualy have M names cheat :ermm:What did Mortis do to cheat, apart from the Pinball incident?
Precisely. It was actually a result of executive meddling to put Mortis through. During this time, Rob Knight thought it was unfair and refused to drive Mortis for run 2, which explained the change in drivers for the next two rounds. Sad thing is though, it scored only 35 points in the run, which would have put it out anyway, but the meddling executives put it up as exactly 100 points to keep Mortis in. Last time I checked, Rob still thought this was unfair after he was put through, further explaining why he didn't drive against Panic Attack.The pinball insedent is all I know of.Did any of those bots that actualy have M names cheat :ermm:What did Mortis do to cheat, apart from the Pinball incident?
Seems that way. The robot was pretty decent, too.Precisely. It was actually a result of executive meddling to put Mortis through. During this time, Rob Knight thought it was unfair and refused to drive Mortis for run 2, which explained the change in drivers for the next two rounds. Sad thing is though, it scored only 35 points in the run, which would have put it out anyway, but the meddling executives put it up as exactly 100 points to keep Mortis in. Last time I checked, Rob still thought this was unfair after he was put through, further explaining why he didn't drive against Panic Attack.The pinball insedent is all I know of.Did any of those bots that actualy have M names cheat :ermm:What did Mortis do to cheat, apart from the Pinball incident?
Well Rob Night is a nice guy, and it's a shame he gets blamed for this.
Well...yes.
Two of them, at least. Guess which ones.
The produers in Series 7 had it in for Storm II since Round 1, I reckon.
Just to keep the interesting ones in. In my opinion, Storm II was much more interesting than Typhoon 2. I do like robots that are more durable, personally. With the exception of Tornado, after the Series 6 final stuff.:beer:
Honesty time...
I always hated Roadblock
Just a wedge that pushed stuff...
Honesty time...That's kinda the point of a wedge. :P
I always hated Roadblock
Just a wedge that pushed stuff...
Honesty time...
I always hated Roadblock
Just a wedge that pushed stuff...
I also hated Cassius II :trollface
I also hated Cassius II :trollfaceYOU SET OFF THE ALARM.
I also hated Cassius II :trollface*Loads up Hunting Rifle and heads to K_M's house*
YOU SET OFF THE ALARM.
YOU SET OFF THE ALARM.
(https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/images/1/15/ALARM.JPG)
:trollface
And sometimes the most simpelest of things are a peice of crap that fluked a win on a rbot combat tv show! ;)Honesty time...
I always hated Roadblock
Just a wedge that pushed stuff...
Sometimes the most simple things are the most complicated
Cassius looks nice, but isnt that good.
The ground clearence on cassius was too highIt was adjustable.
Not all flippers or wedges are terrible. Some are actually entertaining, like Biohazard and Toro.*Ahem*
Are we forgetting CHAOS 2!
Not all flippers or wedges are terrible. Some are actually entertaining, like Biohazard and Toro.
Yeah, Razer!Bzzt, Vertigo is exploding with rage, bzzt
Yeah, 360 is awesome, isn't it, Vertigo? :trollfaceYeah, Razer!Bzzt, Vertigo is exploding with rage, bzzt
bzzt...Yeah, 360 is awesome, isn't it, Vertigo? :trollfaceYeah, Razer!Bzzt, Vertigo is exploding with rage, bzzt
With the exception of Tornado, after the Series 6 final stuff.
at least that was the reasoning with Typhoon 2 and Storm 2... Storm 2 pushed it around the arena to more effect then Tornado but lost due to one piece of armor coming off.. so why didn't Razer win the same way?And the worst thing in that battle, was that Storm II was actually doing internal damage up to the point where Typhoon 2 drove itself into the wall- half its drive was gone. And then, during the interval, Mentorn let the Typhoon team repair the robot and didn't tell the judges.
You know what bot I hate the most, Explosion.Bzzt, LIES. Bzzt...
I don't have a problem with the anti-crusher web itself, personally, the thing I didn't like was the fact that it was then too large to go down the Pit. I still reckon Razer should have won that fight.With the exception of Tornado, after the Series 6 final stuff.I don't understand the hatred of Tornado for doing it. I've done it as well. I have a anti crusher web. I have anti sawbot web.
Meh, cassius 2 is overated.Underrated, more like.
Not really, cassius 1 was overated, cassius 2, meh, it doesn't seem that special to me.Meh, cassius 2 is overated.Underrated, more like.
What about Cassius 3?Not really, cassius 1 was overated, cassius 2, meh, it doesn't seem that special to me.Meh, cassius 2 is overated.Underrated, more like.
It is shockingly bad.Not really, just terrible driving
Not really, just terrible driving
It was running low on gas in that fight aswell apparently.That's why the flipping power isn't that good, it said that on the m2 website IIRC.
The new Mauler because it's face looks dumb.
The new Mauler because it's face looks dumb.
That's retarded. Mauler invented the tuna can spinner, why insult it based on it's paint job?
LAWLwhy
I hated Leighbot.
LAWLWhat was wrong with the silver coffin? :ermm:
I hated Leighbot.
Why does some scary guy laughing music come on when I visit this page? o.o
EDIT: And now it doesn't. How odd.
one bot I hated in BB was "Abattoir" (if you saw the Las Vegas 99 event,you'd understand)I have the DVD of that!. Pathetic. It couldnt even drive! And I dont think Ricon shoulve moved on either.
First off razer is awsome so quit critisizing him. Their opinion. Don't force yours at everyone
I dislikedpussycat because it just seems like a retarded design. Use an inoffensive adjective. The design was great anyway.
I dont like Tornado either because he sorta cheated against razer Tornado, for the last time, didn't cheat
Diotor are Thiefs I tell you. THIEFS! They stole parts from Firestorm. Basterds. I mean really. Firestorm could so kick your fury little ass. Firestorms flipper is so strong it picked up Mr. Psyco. All you can do is catch on fire.Basterds. You really think that they stole Firestorm's parts?
Stinger is also bad. Who ever thought of that design mustve been RETARDED. The desing was great. Your adjective choice is pathetic
I dont rember the name of this one but it competed in robot wars and was a dog. From what I remember, it was TERRIBLE. Ruf Ruf Dougal?
I've also got a grudge againts BioHazzard. I dont know why. He just bugs me. Fair enough
First off razer is awsome so quit critisizing him. Opinion.This topic should be locked. To many chances to start a flame war, so many harsh opinions... and I don't think that Joe or Kill wants to play fire marshal.
I dislikedpussycat because it just seems like a retarded design. Opinion.
I dont like Tornado either because he sorta cheated against razer So then you're also calling SKBT a cheater for having a web like that? It's called strategy, son.
Diotor are Thiefs I tell you. THIEFS! They stole parts from Firestorm. Basterds. I mean really. Firestorm could so kick your fury little ass. Firestorms flipper is so strong it picked up Mr. Psyco. All you can do is catch on fire.Basterds.Have you even met them? I'm guessing not.
Stinger is also bad. Who ever thought of that design mustve been RETARDED. Seriously dude, stop using that. My brother has autism.
I dont rember the name of this one but it competed in robot wars and was a dog. From what I remember, it was TERRIBLE. Opinion
I've also got a grudge againts BioHazzard. I dont know why. He just bugs me. Biohazard could beat any britbot any day. /trollface
Pussy cats design is okay but I didnt think the weapon was very effective in my opinion. And YES I have seen the video where Pussycat beats the crap out of Razer but still.If he wasn't that great how the heck did he win five BB's championships?
Do I think Tornado cheated. YES! It was smart but he got PITTED. Thats cheating he shoulda been out thats not fair.
And that time diotor stole from firestorm. Didnt they catch that on security cameras?
And biohazzerd I dont think is that great. He just isnt as good as Nightmare or Razer in my opinion
Pussy cats design is okay but I didnt think the weapon was very effective in my opinion. And YES I have seen the video where Pussycat beats the crap out of Razer but still. But still nothing, it destroyed Razer ergo it IS effective
Do I think Tornado cheated. YES! It was smart but he got PITTED. Thats cheating he shoulda been out thats not fair. Nope, it wasn't pitted until razer let go of it, otherwise it's just pinning, which isn't allowed.
And that time diotor stole from firestorm. Didnt they catch that on security cameras? Obviously staged, I'm surprised you can work a keyboard.
And biohazzerd I dont think is that great. He just isnt as good as Nightmare or Razer in my opinion Except that he has more championships than both of them combined?
storm 2:o
Looking back on it the whole of the vengence thing was just so bad it was good.
Anyway, back on topic. One robot I was never too keen on was Cerberus. No idea why. Probably because my childish mind found it a bit meaner than usual in a series with robots like this (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090616230420/robotwars/images/d/d7/Rattus_Rattus.jpg) and this (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100304081935/robotwars/images/0/0b/Flip_flop_fly.JPG)
why do people hate tornado? they are really nice guys
Thank GOD for ty4er. At least somebody hates tornado. And you know what Sonny. BioHazzard SUCKS! Sure he won 5 times. But he got beat by frickin Vlad the Impaler. VLAD. Now thats EMBARRASSING. Razer has won 1 time and then one 2 thats right 2 world championships. BioHazzard has nevver done that. He was to scared to come to the world championships. While Razer was out there kicking ASS, BioHazzard was hiding behind his pathetic little arm thinking," I got my butt kicked by Vlad". And you know what, You can lower my rep Sonny and you can write biography about me on RA2 wikipedia for all I care. And Im not 5 bitch im 12 Trollface. I declare WAR Sonny. WAR! I bet you I can build a bot better than you. I bet I can breakdance better than you. BMX. Piece of cake. YOU ARE EVIL.Challenge accepted :trollface
Thank GOD for ty4er. At least somebody hates tornado. And you know what Sonny. BioHazzard SUCKS! Sure he won 5 times. But he got beat by frickin Vlad the Impaler. VLAD. Now thats EMBARRASSING. Razer has won 1 time and then one 2 thats right 2 world championships. BioHazzard has nevver done that. He was to scared to come to the world championships. While Razer was out there kicking ASS, BioHazzard was hiding behind his pathetic little arm thinking," I got my butt kicked by Vlad". And you know what, You can lower my rep Sonny and you can write biography about me on RA2 wikipedia for all I care. And Im not 5 bitch im 12 Trollface. I declare WAR Sonny. WAR! I bet you I can build a bot better than you. I bet I can breakdance better than you. BMX. Piece of cake. YOU ARE EVIL.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMuvAIzjJmU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMuvAIzjJmU#)
Thank GOD for ty4er. At least somebody hates tornado. And you know what Sonny. BioHazzard SUCKS! Sure he won 5 times.How does he suck if he won 5 times though? But he got beat by frickin Vlad the Impaler. VLAD. Now thats EMBARRASSING. Razer has won 1 time and then one 2 thats right 2 world championships. BioHazzard has nevver done that. He was to scared to come to the world championships.And you know this how? If I remember correctly, you had to be INVITED to the world championships. While Razer was out there kicking ASS, BioHazzard was hiding behind his pathetic little arm thinking," I got my butt kicked by Vlad". You do realize this was back in 1995-97ish right? And you know what, You can lower my rep Sonny and you can write biography about me on RA2 wikipedia for all I care. And Im not 5 bitch im 12 Trollface. I declare WAR Sonny. WAR! I bet you I can build a bot better than you. I bet I can breakdance better than you. BMX. Piece of cake. YOU ARE EVIL.THE INTERNET IS SRS BZNS KIDS!!!!!!11!1!!!THE STUPID, IT BURNS.
Slightly related: That was a good fight i've never seen biohazard vs vlad before.Pulverizer getting pulverized. :gawe:
HI madman You remember me dont you. You helped me with stuff. But Im confused. I was talking to Sonny_Resetti not you.Geeze, what made you such an ass in the meantime? You were pretty damn polite back then.
and you need to AI because im a noob( and I have no clue how) You can make up the rest.
Tornado because they beat typhoon in the finals of series seven using that anti crush device grrrrrrrrr
Tornado because they beat typhoon in the finals of series seven using that anti crush device grrrrrrrrryeah I know! that was not fair. Cunning Plan would`ve won but firestorm just used that anti crusher device. Hypnodiscs crusher would`ve gone through Stinger chassi like a knife throug butter. but that stupid panic attack used that cheating thing and so Kronic lost!...
Ah yes I remember the first world championship where Razer won by beating 4 robots all from the United Kingdom.Indeed- Chaos 2 losing to Razer was somewhat anticipated, but made me sad.
Yeah, Spikasaurus was incredibly lucky to even get that far in the annihilator. Mostly because it was smart enough to stay the heck away from Dominator II.That, and everyone ganging up on Chaos 2 in Round 1 was also a factor. Had it survived a little longer, Suicidal Tendencies would have gone instead.
I think Onslaught didn't get enough chance in the spotlight.Indeed- it certainly proved its worth in the Southern Annihilator, though. It's just a pity it couldn't do more of that.
X-terminator 3.1.Pahaha.
Those guys were really bad,i mean,they insulted panic attack,causing a VENGEANCE match.Then,they were assholes.See:Series 7,Tsunami vs X-terminator.They used the flywheel to OOTA tsunami,all they needed to do was just open the pit and plonk them in.
X-terminator 3.1.You be a moron.
Those guys were really bad,i mean,they insulted panic attack,causing a VENGEANCE match.Then,they were assholes.See:Series 7,Tsunami vs X-terminator.They used the flywheel to OOTA tsunami,all they needed to do was just open the pit and plonk them in.
Hey, do NOT diss X-terminator, one of the only non-wedges to get to the 7th wars semi finals!It's called opinion. People can diss it if they want.
That's an accomplishment on its own! All hail the wedge-buckling, flipper-destroying flywheel!
I thought Napalm was always a little piece of trash. Demolition Demon deserved to win that Heat A Final in Series 2.Napalm is awesome.
And i think i have said before, i hate Typhoon.Quoted for truth. Here are my four least favourites-
Cocky little champions...
*starts mumbling to self*
2) 13 BlackWhyyy
3) Spikasaurus
Why don't you like 13 Black?Mainly for what it did to Chaos 2 in the Extreme 2 All-Stars. Immobilising it is one thing, but was it really necessary to continue attacking it with the intention of utterly annihilating it?
If I said Cassius II, would you beat me to death? :P
Yes, that's why its so fun :PWhy don't you like 13 Black?Mainly for what it did to Chaos 2 in the Extreme 2 All-Stars. Immobilising it is one thing, but was it really necessary to continue attacking it with the intention of utterly annihilating it?
If I said Cassius II, would you beat me to death? :P
Maybe I'm being a little biased because it was my favourite RW Champion, but you'd think they would've shown it a little more respect, maybe disposing of it quickly after it was immobilised, instead of trying to grind it down until nothing remained.Yes, that's why its so fun :PWhy don't you like 13 Black?Mainly for what it did to Chaos 2 in the Extreme 2 All-Stars. Immobilising it is one thing, but was it really necessary to continue attacking it with the intention of utterly annihilating it?
If I said Cassius II, would you beat me to death? :P
Why don't you like 13 Black?Mainly for what it did to Chaos 2 in the Extreme 2 All-Stars. Immobilising it is one thing, but was it really necessary to continue attacking it with the intention of utterly annihilating it?
If I said Cassius II, would you beat me to death? :P
Or is it because it was Chaos 2 (which is understandable)?Admittedly, yes. It was definitely one my worst moments with RW, seeing one of my all-time favourites in that state.
...And that it was a bad way for Chaos 2 to end its career?Indeed. At least all the other champions ended their careers in one piece.
That's it though.Or is it because it was Chaos 2 (which is understandable)?Admittedly, yes. It was definitely one my worst moments with RW, seeing one of my all-time favourites in that state.
That's it though.Or is it because it was Chaos 2 (which is understandable)?Admittedly, yes. It was definitely one my worst moments with RW, seeing one of my all-time favourites in that state.
You watch it and get favourites, and then hate seeing them lose.
Not necessarily- all its other losses were not so costly. I mean, think about its fight with Bigger Brother. Sure Bigger Brother flipped it over and ended its run as Champion, which even though it made me sad, but it had to happen at some point, and was mainly down to skill rather than sheer brute force.That's it though.Or is it because it was Chaos 2 (which is understandable)?Admittedly, yes. It was definitely one my worst moments with RW, seeing one of my all-time favourites in that state.
You watch it and get favourites, and then hate seeing them lose.
Just like me and SoW :D
Least favourite robot?Good comedy value though, particularly when Shunt beheaded it :approve:
Banshee, by a country mile.
Least favourite robot?Just because you can't be that sexy :gawe:
Banshee, by a country mile.
Well you became sad, which shows you have more emotions for it than most others.Not necessarily- all its other losses were not so costly. I mean, think about its fight with Bigger Brother. Sure Bigger Brother flipped it over and ended its run as Champion, which even though it made me sad, but it had to happen at some point, and was mainly down to skill rather than sheer brute force.That's it though.Or is it because it was Chaos 2 (which is understandable)?Admittedly, yes. It was definitely one my worst moments with RW, seeing one of my all-time favourites in that state.
You watch it and get favourites, and then hate seeing them lose.
Just like me and SoW :D
Indeed- I was saying that I was cool with it losing, but just not with 13 Black, Razer and Mr Psycho all ganging together to destroy it.Well you became sad, which shows you have more emotions for it than most others.Not necessarily- all its other losses were not so costly. I mean, think about its fight with Bigger Brother. Sure Bigger Brother flipped it over and ended its run as Champion, which even though it made me sad, but it had to happen at some point, and was mainly down to skill rather than sheer brute force.That's it though.Or is it because it was Chaos 2 (which is understandable)?Admittedly, yes. It was definitely one my worst moments with RW, seeing one of my all-time favourites in that state.
You watch it and get favourites, and then hate seeing them lose.
Just like me and SoW :D
But you do expect everyone to fall once or twice, yet are surprised when tehy are beaten by bots who havent got as far or aren't as good.
What about the annihilator then?Indeed- I was saying that I was cool with it losing, but just not with 13 Black, Razer and Mr Psycho all ganging together to destroy it.Well you became sad, which shows you have more emotions for it than most others.Not necessarily- all its other losses were not so costly. I mean, think about its fight with Bigger Brother. Sure Bigger Brother flipped it over and ended its run as Champion, which even though it made me sad, but it had to happen at some point, and was mainly down to skill rather than sheer brute force.That's it though.Or is it because it was Chaos 2 (which is understandable)?Admittedly, yes. It was definitely one my worst moments with RW, seeing one of my all-time favourites in that state.
You watch it and get favourites, and then hate seeing them lose.
Just like me and SoW :D
But you do expect everyone to fall once or twice, yet are surprised when tehy are beaten by bots who havent got as far or aren't as good.
That too- although it did kind of bring it on itself, there. Had it left Killerhurtz flipped or survived until Suicidal Tendencies died, I think it would've been in with a chance.What about the annihilator then?Indeed- I was saying that I was cool with it losing, but just not with 13 Black, Razer and Mr Psycho all ganging together to destroy it.Well you became sad, which shows you have more emotions for it than most others.Not necessarily- all its other losses were not so costly. I mean, think about its fight with Bigger Brother. Sure Bigger Brother flipped it over and ended its run as Champion, which even though it made me sad, but it had to happen at some point, and was mainly down to skill rather than sheer brute force.That's it though.Or is it because it was Chaos 2 (which is understandable)?Admittedly, yes. It was definitely one my worst moments with RW, seeing one of my all-time favourites in that state.
You watch it and get favourites, and then hate seeing them lose.
Just like me and SoW :D
But you do expect everyone to fall once or twice, yet are surprised when tehy are beaten by bots who havent got as far or aren't as good.
1) Tough as Nails/Cheap as Chips
Sure Panic Attack did use those tactics several times as well, but it did at least use other methods of defeating opponents as well, particularly when the pit wasn't available- look at its fights with Toe Cutter, X-Terminator and Sawpoint for instance. They proved that even without the pit on its side, it was an effective fighter, since it could utilise other tactics.1) Tough as Nails/Cheap as Chips
You don't like it because of its tactics. Grab and pit. Why don't you hate Panic Attack jointly?
@GoldenFox: I still think TAN is a superior. That's your opinion, and that's fine- I just hate the robot myself.
TAN was built with the RWs arena in mind, Panic Attack only adapted. Only the pit, really.
TAN was not cheap, it simply fallowed what the builder wanted. The idea of a "Horizontal Crusher" was actually quite an interesting one in theory, but it's hardly an interesting design in practise if it just grips hold instead of actually doing anything.
And to be frank, I think Disco Inferno is a rather lackluster machine, and Gravity while cool, was horridly impractical. Disc-O-Inferno did actually improve in its later years- it won an Annihilator in RW Extreme, tore Velocirippa apart, and got to the Heat Finals in Series 6, only losing out to Bigger Brother. So yes, I think, had it not been pitted, it could have done quite well.
Gravity however, impractical as it may be, was still a far more interesting robot than TAN, in the fact that it could actually do something to its opponents, in this case tossing opponents around like toys.
@GoldenFox: I still think TAN is a superior. That's your opinion, and that's fine- I just hate the robot myself. Your Entitled to your opinion
TAN was built with the RWs arena in mind, Panic Attack only adapted. Only the pit, really. Wasn't the pit lowed by an operator? In most of the cases when Panic Attack used the pit, the battle was pretty much over, with exceptions.
TAN was not cheap, it simply fallowed what the builder wanted. The idea of a "Horizontal Crusher" was actually quite an interesting one in theory, but it's hardly an interesting design in practise if it just grips hold instead of actually doing anything. TAN is not a crusher, it is a clamp bot, just like Complete Control, and no ones calling that cheap.
And to be frank, I think Disco Inferno is a rather lackluster machine, and Gravity while cool, was horridly impractical. Disc-O-Inferno did actually improve in its later years- it won an Annihilator in RW Extreme, tore Velocirippa apart, and got to the Heat Finals in Series 6, only losing out to Bigger Brother. So yes, I think, had it not been pitted, it could have done quite well.
Gravity however, impractical as it may be, was still a far more interesting robot than TAN, in the fact that it could actually do something to its opponents, in this case tossing opponents around like toys. I think it's more interesting seeing an untested design go at it. Disc-o-inferno design is a tired, bland, overused machine. If I recall correctly, Velocirippa was built with a fiberglass shell, which basically is spinner bait as is. Gravity was against some experienced machines, but they were almost entirely infective, had high ground clearance, or was to slow to stop it. The reason why TAN beat them was because TAN was better, not cheap.
This could be a start of somthing great. History may repeat itself! I think you all know what I mean.Indeed- but as usual, it'll definitely be another case of "The Complainer is Always Wrong". I mean, if I may say so, nobody else on here gets hounded for not liking a particular robot.
@Golden Fox: I still think TAN is a superior. TAN was built with the RWs arena in mind, Panic Attack only adapted. TAN was not cheap, it simply fallowed what the builder wanted. And to be frank, I think Disco Inferno is a rather lackluster machine, and Gravity while cool, was horridly impractical.
Hmmm... I slightly remember it. But just the teenyest tinyest bit.Just for reference, it was the one that looked like a giant pair of kitchen tongs on wheels.
Oh,goddamn TAN.I think he MAY still compete,in the Roaming robots.It does compete now and then from what I can see. But mind you, it did provide this little gem against Turbulence in the 2006 UK Championships-
Oh,and i hate,hate hate HATE Mute.It used FAR too much gas,SHOWED OFF,and came second place in the new blood championship VIA LUCK.
Cedric Slammer slammed on the flywheel,and sent sparks FLYING.
I did like Mute. I like small and compact robots, rather than large flimsy ones.So one of the appeals behind Chaos 2, then? :P
One robot I didn't like was Haardvark. I've got no idea why, I just didn't like it.
I did like Mute. I like small and compact robots, rather than large flimsy ones.So one of the appeals behind Chaos 2, then? :P
One robot I didn't like was Haardvark. I've got no idea why, I just didn't like it.
And also, I wonder why that could be? My guess is something to do with it eliminating Plunderbird 2 in the Gauntlet.
Indeed- you didn't see Haardvark taking out two house robots in under thirty seconds, did you? Unless of course you count Dead Metal driving off the podium after it in the Sumo, but still :PI did like Mute. I like small and compact robots, rather than large flimsy ones.So one of the appeals behind Chaos 2, then? :P
One robot I didn't like was Haardvark. I've got no idea why, I just didn't like it.
And also, I wonder why that could be? My guess is something to do with it eliminating Plunderbird 2 in the Gauntlet.
I think that was it. Plunderbird 2 was awesome, and it should have gotten at least into the Arena.
I hated 3 Stegs To Heaven.For me however, it was more of a massive disappointment after the awesome Steg 2, which had the power to take out Mortis and Iron Awe, and only Chaos 2 was able to eventually stop it.
To bring this back...
I'm going to go out on a limb and mention Killerkat- one of the few designs on RW I consider to be an absolute joke from top to bottom.
In terms of design, it had no redeeming features- slow, weak, ineffective weaponry, and one of those large chassis types that makes it vulnerable to more or less every type of weapon there is- a bad choice when you've got flammable armour that appears to be about as resistant as balsa wood.
And that's not even mentioning its near-complete lack of originality- a poor man's Pussycat, I consider it to be. So yes, from the description, you can probably imagine why I don't like it.
Without a doubt, my least favourite robot is Tough as Nails (Or "Cheap as Chips" as I like to call it). I mean, that thing won only by the cheapest methods possible-immediately grabbing opponents and pitting them-no action, and always boring and predictable.
Plus how they pitted Disc-O-Inferno (Who I looked forward to seeing that year, and was dominating the fight!), and did Panic Attack and RoboChicken out of their respective victories.
And then there's the World Championship. We could've had GRAVITY in there, but nooo....
I was so happy when Bulldog Breed and Storm II gave that cheap excuse for a robot a taste of its own medicine.
And if I had to pick a second choice, it'd probably be 13 Black, for what it did to Chaos 2 in RW Extreme Series 2.
Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:Don't hate on him/her/him/her/him/... her?
Best robot? Guess.
Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:An opinion is one thing, but your apparent justifications for hating it is another altogether- only ever losing to the good robots should be seen as a good thing.
Best robot? Guess.
Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:Don't hate on him/her/him/her/him/... her?
Best robot? Guess.
Disliked Wild Thing for all its rip-off victories over Prizephita and 259. In both series it was somewhat meager, and I thought it was very lucky to get as far as it did.
Disliked T.A.N. because it ripped-off Robochicken. Got beaten by one of my favorites in the end though :D
Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:Matador > DanTomKia
Best robot? Guess.
As for mine-Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:Matador > DanTomKia
Best robot? Guess.
But then again that's my opinion..
Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:An opinion is one thing, but your apparent justifications for hating it is another altogether- only ever losing to the good robots should be seen as a good thing.
Best robot? Guess.
That leads me onto this- if "Good Robots could beat it easily", how do you explain it beating plenty of excellent ones over the years? (Big Cheese, Firestorm, HypnoDisc, Killerhurtz, Steg 2, Tornado, Stinger, Pussycat...)
Likewise, it only lost to Dantomkia because Shunt interfered with it self-righting properly. All you sound like to me is a bit of a DTK fanboy, really- if that's got me (generally considered to be the forum's most ridiculous fanboy) facepalming at your comments, that's saying something.
I can understand the bit about it not being adapted for later wars- I realise that did cost it later. But liking it, and then suddenly hating it simply for the driver? That's the most shallow and pathetic reason I've ever seen for hating a robot in any case.Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:An opinion is one thing, but your apparent justifications for hating it is another altogether- only ever losing to the good robots should be seen as a good thing.
Best robot? Guess.
That leads me onto this- if "Good Robots could beat it easily", how do you explain it beating plenty of excellent ones over the years? (Big Cheese, Firestorm, HypnoDisc, Killerhurtz, Steg 2, Tornado, Stinger, Pussycat...)
Likewise, it only lost to Dantomkia because Shunt interfered with it self-righting properly. All you sound like to me is a bit of a DTK fanboy, really- if that's got me (generally considered to be the forum's most ridiculous fanboy) facepalming at your comments, that's saying something.
Yeah, but Chaos 2 used to be my favourite bot, until i found out who the driver was, and chaos 2 became outdated very quickly. Oh, and the hypnodisc boys handnt yet built their srimech, so, fail. But I do agree with how many dencent bots it beat.
On another note; what's a fanboy? Because I know people you for liking Cassius 2 for some reason.
But lay off. What's wrong with DTK? I may have a highly favourable opinion on it, but mocking me aboit isn't nice. And my personal text is a joke. I like DTK, but I DO NOT LOVE IT TO THE POINT WHERE I WONT HAVE AN OPEN MIND ABOUT IT.
I can understand the bit about it not being adapted for later wars- I realise that did cost it later. But liking it, and then suddenly hating it simply for the driver? That's the most shallow and pathetic reason I've ever seen for hating a robot in any case.Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:An opinion is one thing, but your apparent justifications for hating it is another altogether- only ever losing to the good robots should be seen as a good thing.
Best robot? Guess.
That leads me onto this- if "Good Robots could beat it easily", how do you explain it beating plenty of excellent ones over the years? (Big Cheese, Firestorm, HypnoDisc, Killerhurtz, Steg 2, Tornado, Stinger, Pussycat...)
Likewise, it only lost to Dantomkia because Shunt interfered with it self-righting properly. All you sound like to me is a bit of a DTK fanboy, really- if that's got me (generally considered to be the forum's most ridiculous fanboy) facepalming at your comments, that's saying something.
Yeah, but Chaos 2 used to be my favourite bot, until i found out who the driver was, and chaos 2 became outdated very quickly. Oh, and the hypnodisc boys handnt yet built their srimech, so, fail. But I do agree with how many dencent bots it beat.
On another note; what's a fanboy? Because I know people you for liking Cassius 2 for some reason.
But lay off. What's wrong with DTK? I may have a highly favourable opinion on it, but mocking me aboit isn't nice. And my personal text is a joke. I like DTK, but I DO NOT LOVE IT TO THE POINT WHERE I WONT HAVE AN OPEN MIND ABOUT IT.
And the answer to your question-
http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fanboy (http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fanboy)
I didn't like DTK because of it's driver :PI can understand the bit about it not being adapted for later wars- I realise that did cost it later. But liking it, and then suddenly hating it simply for the driver? That's the most shallow and pathetic reason I've ever seen for hating a robot in any case.Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:An opinion is one thing, but your apparent justifications for hating it is another altogether- only ever losing to the good robots should be seen as a good thing.
Best robot? Guess.
That leads me onto this- if "Good Robots could beat it easily", how do you explain it beating plenty of excellent ones over the years? (Big Cheese, Firestorm, HypnoDisc, Killerhurtz, Steg 2, Tornado, Stinger, Pussycat...)
Likewise, it only lost to Dantomkia because Shunt interfered with it self-righting properly. All you sound like to me is a bit of a DTK fanboy, really- if that's got me (generally considered to be the forum's most ridiculous fanboy) facepalming at your comments, that's saying something.
Yeah, but Chaos 2 used to be my favourite bot, until i found out who the driver was, and chaos 2 became outdated very quickly. Oh, and the hypnodisc boys handnt yet built their srimech, so, fail. But I do agree with how many dencent bots it beat.
On another note; what's a fanboy? Because I know people you for liking Cassius 2 for some reason.
But lay off. What's wrong with DTK? I may have a highly favourable opinion on it, but mocking me aboit isn't nice. And my personal text is a joke. I like DTK, but I DO NOT LOVE IT TO THE POINT WHERE I WONT HAVE AN OPEN MIND ABOUT IT.
And the answer to your question-
http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fanboy (http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fanboy)
...right. Actually, come to think of it, I actually hate Tough As Nails more than Chaos 2.
But how the (insert swear word here) am I a fanboy? I just like Dantomkia, and i think its much betyet than chaos 2 (my opinion). But I do acknowledge that other Robots (like Razer, possibly the best bot to ever compete in RW) are better than DTK.
Forgive me, but what bot is Cassius 2? I cant honestly say ive seen it.
I didn't like DTK because of it's driver :PI can understand the bit about it not being adapted for later wars- I realise that did cost it later. But liking it, and then suddenly hating it simply for the driver? That's the most shallow and pathetic reason I've ever seen for hating a robot in any case.Chaos 2, hated George Francis. Easily beaten by good robots, Razer, and didn't even stand a chance against Dantomkia. :mrgreen:An opinion is one thing, but your apparent justifications for hating it is another altogether- only ever losing to the good robots should be seen as a good thing.
Best robot? Guess.
That leads me onto this- if "Good Robots could beat it easily", how do you explain it beating plenty of excellent ones over the years? (Big Cheese, Firestorm, HypnoDisc, Killerhurtz, Steg 2, Tornado, Stinger, Pussycat...)
Likewise, it only lost to Dantomkia because Shunt interfered with it self-righting properly. All you sound like to me is a bit of a DTK fanboy, really- if that's got me (generally considered to be the forum's most ridiculous fanboy) facepalming at your comments, that's saying something.
Yeah, but Chaos 2 used to be my favourite bot, until i found out who the driver was, and chaos 2 became outdated very quickly. Oh, and the hypnodisc boys handnt yet built their srimech, so, fail. But I do agree with how many dencent bots it beat.
On another note; what's a fanboy? Because I know people you for liking Cassius 2 for some reason.
But lay off. What's wrong with DTK? I may have a highly favourable opinion on it, but mocking me aboit isn't nice. And my personal text is a joke. I like DTK, but I DO NOT LOVE IT TO THE POINT WHERE I WONT HAVE AN OPEN MIND ABOUT IT.
And the answer to your question-
http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fanboy (http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fanboy)
...right. Actually, come to think of it, I actually hate Tough As Nails more than Chaos 2.
But how the (insert swear word here) am I a fanboy? I just like Dantomkia, and i think its much betyet than chaos 2 (my opinion). But I do acknowledge that other Robots (like Razer, possibly the best bot to ever compete in RW) are better than DTK.
Forgive me, but what bot is Cassius 2? I cant honestly say ive seen it.
It had perhaps one of the worst drivers ever, i still like the bot though.Although i liked the original Cassius, mainly because it was the first robot to self-right and it came second (but it was to panic attack :P)
Firestorm is/was metal also...
Dantomkia is my least favorite. :trollfaceI actually never really liked them either.
Dantomkia is my least favorite. :trollface
lawlumadDantomkia is my least favorite. :trollface
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Unnecessary and hypocritical. You say you don't like Chaos and then as soon as someone insults DTK, you get angry.Dantomkia is my least favorite. :trollface
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We have another Gravin. :rolleyes:Dantomkia is my least favorite. :trollface
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Early era Garvin was extremely painful.We have another Gravin. :rolleyes:Dantomkia is my least favorite. :trollface
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Oddly, many years ago my least favourite robots were Pussycat, Stinger, Vlad the Impaler, Evil Weevil, Cerberus and Razer.I don't like Razer either. *le highfives*
Now, many years later, from that list I only don't like Evil Weevil and Razer.
Oh yeah, I've had a recent hatred of dantomkiaHence, why it was so satisfying to see Firestorm, Pussycat and Gravity show it who was boss :approve:
I have mixed feelings about Razer.
I hate...you know le one that killed panmic attack in its last season?Cheap as Chips.
noooooooooooo what was its real name?I hate...you know le one that killed panmic attack in its last season?Cheap as Chips.
I hate...you know le one that killed panmic attack in its last season?Tough as nails and Dantomkia.
first oneI hate...you know le one that killed panmic attack in its last season?Tough as nails and Dantomkia.
Tough As Nails should've gone against Typhoon 2, then we would've seen how tough it really wasTAN is extremely durable, so I imagine it could easily beat Typhoon 2.
TAN was a great bot.TBH, I only have a slight grudge because it beat Robochicken, one of my favorites for Series 7.
PA actually only pitted every robot in 3. Even then, he gave the robot a fair match, not just a grab and pit.
Actually, I was more annoyed by what it did with Disc-O-Inferno and Gravity- both times we could've had far better competitors qualifying, but no.
Define better. Surely if TAN beat them, it is better than them, no?
And granted Panic Attack did use similar tactics in several of its battles, by no means was the pit the only way it could defeat opponents- it used other methods as well (IE. Toe Cutter, Spawn of Scutter, Rammstein), rather than simply being a design that's more or less useless without arena hazards.
It pitted Rammstein who would have won if its batteries hadn't died, Toecutter was totally hopeless and could have been beaten by anything, and Spawn of Scutter wouldn't have lost without the arena - if the walls were any other height that move wouldn't have worked.
a) For starters, actual effective weaponry. We've seen previously what those two are capable of, and right at the start, DI looked good in the First Round Melee, the way it tore into BOD. I think if it had gotten through, I reckon it could at least have gotten to the Heat Finals.Actually, I was more annoyed by what it did with Disc-O-Inferno and Gravity- both times we could've had far better competitors qualifying, but no.
Define better. Surely if TAN beat them, it is better than them, no?
And granted Panic Attack did use similar tactics in several of its battles, by no means was the pit the only way it could defeat opponents- it used other methods as well (IE. Toe Cutter, Spawn of Scutter, Rammstein), rather than simply being a design that's more or less useless without arena hazards.
It pitted Rammstein who would have won if its batteries hadn't died, Toecutter was totally hopeless and could have been beaten by anything, and Spawn of Scutter wouldn't have lost without the arena - if the walls were any other height that move wouldn't have worked.
a) For starters, actual effective weaponry. What were TAN's weapons then? Pretend weapons? And you can't deny TAN's weapons were effective, even if you disagree with its battle philosophy
We've seen previously what those two are capable of, and right at the start, DI looked good in the First Round Melee, the way it tore into BOD. I think if it had gotten through, I reckon it could at least have gotten to the Heat Finals. We've also seen previously how unreliable DI is. I reckon it could have at least lasted another few minutes before breaking down.
And in my eyes, Gravity would've been a far better Dutch Representative in the Third World Championship, being what could be considered the first of Europe's generation of monster flippers. You answer my question asking how it would be better by saying it would be better. Explain, don't repeat. Anyway, in my opinion, it would have been a worse representative for the Dutch - it would have found Rawbot as easy as TAN did, but it wouldn't have had a hope in heck against Storm 2, unlike TAN who did have a chance. so for the Dutch, TAN was a better representative.
Would've been far more exciting to watch at least Opinion. Some prefer a war of atrittion like against bulldog Breed to a 6-second walkover against Dantomkia
rather than the tongs that ultimately used cheap tactics and the pit to get to its undeserved spots. Again, 'cheap' is your opinion, and whether or not you consider its tactics cheap, you cannot call the victory undeserved - TAN won fair and square. Also, Gravity used the low walls, a feature of the arena as much as the pit, to win its battles. If the fight was in the enclosed, pitless Battlebots arena, TAN would win pretty much every time.
b) Yes, but it utilised tactics that took advantage of Rammstein's battery power, before actually finishing it off using the pit. Do you really think that PA knew of the low battery power? I watched the battle, it just pitted Rammstein as soon as it got under it properly and the pit had opened
On the other hand, Toecutter and Spawn of Scutter were demonstrations of how it utilised driving skills and no pit to win. Panic Attack's main tactic was unquestionably still to pit the opponent
PA actually only pitted every robot in 3. Even then, he gave the robot a fair match, not just a grab and pit.
If I was a competitor, I wouldn't want to give my opponents a 'fair match' - I'd want to do anything to ensure my own victory. There is no chivalrous obligation in Combat Robotics.
why?Cause I think it's funny.
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A bit of all of those reasons, really. Robbing battles of any potential entertainment value, overt reliance on the pit to win anything, getting rid of competitors that were far more entertaining to watch and deserving of qualification, predictable, annoying, and one of the few robots I genuinely dislike. I don't say that often, but it's definitely earned the spot in my RW Hall of Shame.a) For starters, actual effective weaponry. What were TAN's weapons then? Pretend weapons? And you can't deny TAN's weapons were effective, even if you disagree with its battle philosophy (What they called "Horizontal Crushers", which weren't crushers at all. They were more clamps really, which did no damage whatsoever- a bit like gently gripping onto an egg to hold it, but not break it. All they did was just hold on and do no damage)
We've seen previously what those two are capable of, and right at the start, DI looked good in the First Round Melee, the way it tore into BOD. I think if it had gotten through, I reckon it could at least have gotten to the Heat Finals. We've also seen previously how unreliable DI is. I reckon it could have at least lasted another few minutes before breaking down. (Not necessarily- in some cases, it lasted alright- in the opening Melee of Series 6, it lasted throughout, and took out both Behemoth and Tridentate. In Series 7 however, it looked on good form as well, and had CAC not pitted it, I think it would've qualified- you can't really tell reliability from a few seconds of screen time in a new series. I might've looked at it a bit more fairly if CAC had legitimately immobilised it, but no. That would be too difficult for a pair of tongs with no effective weapons)
And in my eyes, Gravity would've been a far better Dutch Representative in the Third World Championship, being what could be considered the first of Europe's generation of monster flippers. You answer my question asking how it would be better by saying it would be better. Explain, don't repeat. Anyway, in my opinion, it would have been a worse representative for the Dutch - it would have found Rawbot as easy as TAN did, but it wouldn't have had a hope in heck against Storm 2, unlike TAN who did have a chance. so for the Dutch, TAN was a better representative. (In terms of reliability perhaps, but in terms of excitement to watch, Gravity beats it easily, with its performance of throwing rather than pushing. Yet with so many international competitors, I don't see why they just set it out like the previous 2 World Championships, and made it a much larger tournament- that way, both of them could've entered, instead of one of them)
Would've been far more exciting to watch at least Opinion. Some prefer a war of atrittion like against bulldog Breed to a 6-second walkover against Dantomkia (And what about all these walkovers where it just used the pit to win in the first few seconds? It just turned what could have been good fights into predictable, scaled-up games of UFO grabbers)
rather than the tongs that ultimately used cheap tactics and the pit to get to its undeserved spots. Again, 'cheap' is your opinion, and whether or not you consider its tactics cheap, you cannot call the victory undeserved - TAN won fair and square. Also, Gravity used the low walls, a feature of the arena as much as the pit, to win its battles. If the fight was in the enclosed, pitless Battlebots arena, TAN would win pretty much every time. (Not necessarily. Many times in BB, it was proven that flippers could be successful. For one example, look at Spitfire- that took out Vlad the Impaler 2, an invertable machine, with no need for a pit or arena fences)
b) Yes, but it utilised tactics that took advantage of Rammstein's battery power, before actually finishing it off using the pit. Do you really think that PA knew of the low battery power? I watched the battle, it just pitted Rammstein as soon as it got under it properly and the pit had opened (The pit only opened once Rammstein had been properly immobilised)
On the other hand, Toecutter and Spawn of Scutter were demonstrations of how it utilised driving skills and no pit to win. Panic Attack's main tactic was unquestionably still to pit the opponent (You keep telling yourself that- like I say, it didn't use it EVERY time it fought, proving versatility even in situations without the pit. Without it, CAC wouldn't have gotten past the heats, let alone gotten into the Semis)
Why do you consider the tactics cheap anyway? Because they don't give the opponent a chance? Because there's little entertainment value? Because the battles typically ended moderately quickly?
a) For starters, actual effective weaponry. What were TAN's weapons then? Pretend weapons? And you can't deny TAN's weapons were effective, even if you disagree with its battle philosophy(What they called "Horizontal Crushers", which weren't crushers at all. They were more clamps really, which did no damage whatsoever- a bit like gently gripping onto an egg to hold it, but not break it. All they did was just hold on and do no damage) Still they were real weapons, and they did what they had to well, which is the point.
We've seen previously what those two are capable of, and right at the start, DI looked good in the First Round Melee, the way it tore into BOD. I think if it had gotten through, I reckon it could at least have gotten to the Heat Finals. We've also seen previously how unreliable DI is. I reckon it could have at least lasted another few minutes before breaking down. (Not necessarily- in some cases, it lasted alright- in the opening Melee of Series 6, it lasted throughout, and took out both Behemoth and Tridentate. In Series 7 however, it looked on good form as well, and had CAC not pitted it, I think it would've qualified- you can't really tell reliability from a few seconds of screen time in a new series. I might've looked at it a bit more fairly if CAC had legitimately immobilised it, but no. That would be too difficult for a pair of tongs with no effective weapons) The weapons were effective at what they were used for. And DI was beaten fairly - it was thrown in the pit, which last I checked, was a legit way to beat an opponent in RW. I seem to remember you championing pits against Naryar a while ago.
And in my eyes, Gravity would've been a far better Dutch Representative in the Third World Championship, being what could be considered the first of Europe's generation of monster flippers. You answer my question asking how it would be better by saying it would be better. Explain, don't repeat. Anyway, in my opinion, it would have been a worse representative for the Dutch - it would have found Rawbot as easy as TAN did, but it wouldn't have had a hope in heck against Storm 2, unlike TAN who did have a chance. so for the Dutch, TAN was a better representative. (In terms of reliability perhaps, but in terms of excitement to watch, Gravity beats it easily, with its performance of throwing rather than pushing. Yet with so many international competitors, I don't see why they just set it out like the previous 2 World Championships, and made it a much larger tournament- that way, both of them could've entered, instead of one of them) I wasn't referring to reliability, I was referring to having a chance at winning against Storm 2. Excitement is irrelevant. Size of the competion is irrelevant. TAN had a much larger chance of beating Storm 2 than Gravity, so by that logic is was a better 'Dutch Representative'. No other reason.
Would've been far more exciting to watch at least Opinion. Some prefer a war of atrittion like against bulldog Breed to a 6-second walkover against Dantomkia (And what about all these walkovers where it just used the pit to win in the first few seconds? It just turned what could have been good fights into predictable, scaled-up games of UFO grabbers)None of those existed. None of the 30 shortest battles in RW involved TAN - these went up to 32 seconds as the equal 29th shortest battles. And I, for one saw TAN's match against BB as straightforward as against Gravity/Scraptosaur - but no, it had a tough match and lost on a judges decision - so not predictable as you would think.
rather than the tongs that ultimately used cheap tactics and the pit to get to its undeserved spots. Again, 'cheap' is your opinion, and whether or not you consider its tactics cheap, you cannot call the victory undeserved - TAN won fair and square. Also, Gravity used the low walls, a feature of the arena as much as the pit, to win its battles. If the fight was in the enclosed, pitless Battlebots arena, TAN would win pretty much every time. (Not necessarily. Many times in BB, it was proven that flippers could be successful. For one example, look at Spitfire- that took out Vlad the Impaler 2, an invertable machine, with no need for a pit or arena fences)I refer specifically to TAN vs Gravity, where I believe TAN would easily corner Gravity and pin it - winning on judges.
b) Yes, but it utilised tactics that took advantage of Rammstein's battery power, before actually finishing it off using the pit. Do you really think that PA knew of the low battery power? I watched the battle, it just pitted Rammstein as soon as it got under it properly and the pit had opened (The pit only opened once Rammstein had been properly immobilised) I just watched the battle and it didn't actually appear to be immobilised, PA just pitted it as soon as the pit opened.
On the other hand, Toecutter and Spawn of Scutter were demonstrations of how it utilised driving skills and no pit to win. Panic Attack's main tactic was unquestionably still to pit the opponent (You keep telling yourself that- like I say, it didn't use it EVERY time it fought, proving versatility even in situations without the pit. Without it, CAC wouldn't have gotten past the heats, let alone gotten into the Semis)Look me in the face and tell me Panic attack's main tactic wasn't to use the pit. Also, TAN only won 3 of its 5 fights by pitting its opponents. It beat Panic Attack and Robochicken on judges decisions. So it pretty much got through the heats and into the semis without the pit, it only pitted DI and that's it.
Why do you consider the tactics cheap anyway? Because they don't give the opponent a chance? Because there's little entertainment value? Because the battles typically ended moderately quickly? A bit of all of those reasons, really. Robbing battles of any potential entertainment value (Opinion, and that doesn't make it cheap), overt reliance on the pit to win anything (As I've shown that was far from the case), getting rid of competitors that were far more entertaining to watch (Same point again and still an opinion) and deserving of qualification (Tripe - no robot is more or less deserving and even so, qualifying ahead of opponents isn't cheap), predictable (Still doesn't make it cheap), annoying (WTF are you on about, and STILL doesn't make it cheap), and one of the few robots I genuinely dislike (You don't like it, but that doesn't make it cheap). I don't say that often, but it's definitely earned the spot in my RW Hall of Shame. (Tripe again, and once more it doesn't make it cheap. You harbouring a dislike for it shouldn't put it in a Hall of Shame, it did NOTHING wrong, except irk you, it seems. The only people in the hall of shame should be the producers.)
Not hounded, just pointing out flaws.That quote's as big as a freaking book, do you really have to keep up with this ?a) For starters, actual effective weaponry. What were TAN's weapons then? Pretend weapons? And you can't deny TAN's weapons were effective, even if you disagree with its battle philosophy(What they called "Horizontal Crushers", which weren't crushers at all. They were more clamps really, which did no damage whatsoever- a bit like gently gripping onto an egg to hold it, but not break it. All they did was just hold on and do no damage) Still they were real weapons, and they did what they had to well, which is the point.
We've seen previously what those two are capable of, and right at the start, DI looked good in the First Round Melee, the way it tore into BOD. I think if it had gotten through, I reckon it could at least have gotten to the Heat Finals. We've also seen previously how unreliable DI is. I reckon it could have at least lasted another few minutes before breaking down. (Not necessarily- in some cases, it lasted alright- in the opening Melee of Series 6, it lasted throughout, and took out both Behemoth and Tridentate. In Series 7 however, it looked on good form as well, and had CAC not pitted it, I think it would've qualified- you can't really tell reliability from a few seconds of screen time in a new series. I might've looked at it a bit more fairly if CAC had legitimately immobilised it, but no. That would be too difficult for a pair of tongs with no effective weapons) The weapons were effective at what they were used for. And DI was beaten fairly - it was thrown in the pit, which last I checked, was a legit way to beat an opponent in RW. I seem to remember you championing pits against Naryar a while ago.
And in my eyes, Gravity would've been a far better Dutch Representative in the Third World Championship, being what could be considered the first of Europe's generation of monster flippers. You answer my question asking how it would be better by saying it would be better. Explain, don't repeat. Anyway, in my opinion, it would have been a worse representative for the Dutch - it would have found Rawbot as easy as TAN did, but it wouldn't have had a hope in heck against Storm 2, unlike TAN who did have a chance. so for the Dutch, TAN was a better representative. (In terms of reliability perhaps, but in terms of excitement to watch, Gravity beats it easily, with its performance of throwing rather than pushing. Yet with so many international competitors, I don't see why they just set it out like the previous 2 World Championships, and made it a much larger tournament- that way, both of them could've entered, instead of one of them) I wasn't referring to reliability, I was referring to having a chance at winning against Storm 2. Excitement is irrelevant. Size of the competion is irrelevant. TAN had a much larger chance of beating Storm 2 than Gravity, so by that logic is was a better 'Dutch Representative'. No other reason.
Would've been far more exciting to watch at least Opinion. Some prefer a war of atrittion like against bulldog Breed to a 6-second walkover against Dantomkia (And what about all these walkovers where it just used the pit to win in the first few seconds? It just turned what could have been good fights into predictable, scaled-up games of UFO grabbers)None of those existed. None of the 30 shortest battles in RW involved TAN - these went up to 32 seconds as the equal 29th shortest battles. And I, for one saw TAN's match against BB as straightforward as against Gravity/Scraptosaur - but no, it had a tough match and lost on a judges decision - so not predictable as you would think.
rather than the tongs that ultimately used cheap tactics and the pit to get to its undeserved spots. Again, 'cheap' is your opinion, and whether or not you consider its tactics cheap, you cannot call the victory undeserved - TAN won fair and square. Also, Gravity used the low walls, a feature of the arena as much as the pit, to win its battles. If the fight was in the enclosed, pitless Battlebots arena, TAN would win pretty much every time. (Not necessarily. Many times in BB, it was proven that flippers could be successful. For one example, look at Spitfire- that took out Vlad the Impaler 2, an invertable machine, with no need for a pit or arena fences)I refer specifically to TAN vs Gravity, where I believe TAN would easily corner Gravity and pin it - winning on judges.
b) Yes, but it utilised tactics that took advantage of Rammstein's battery power, before actually finishing it off using the pit. Do you really think that PA knew of the low battery power? I watched the battle, it just pitted Rammstein as soon as it got under it properly and the pit had opened (The pit only opened once Rammstein had been properly immobilised) I just watched the battle and it didn't actually appear to be immobilised, PA just pitted it as soon as the pit opened.
On the other hand, Toecutter and Spawn of Scutter were demonstrations of how it utilised driving skills and no pit to win. Panic Attack's main tactic was unquestionably still to pit the opponent (You keep telling yourself that- like I say, it didn't use it EVERY time it fought, proving versatility even in situations without the pit. Without it, CAC wouldn't have gotten past the heats, let alone gotten into the Semis)Look me in the face and tell me Panic attack's main tactic wasn't to use the pit. Also, TAN only won 3 of its 5 fights by pitting its opponents. It beat Panic Attack and Robochicken on judges decisions. So it pretty much got through the heats and into the semis without the pit, it only pitted DI and that's it.
Why do you consider the tactics cheap anyway? Because they don't give the opponent a chance? Because there's little entertainment value? Because the battles typically ended moderately quickly? A bit of all of those reasons, really. Robbing battles of any potential entertainment value (Opinion, and that doesn't make it cheap), overt reliance on the pit to win anything (As I've shown that was far from the case), getting rid of competitors that were far more entertaining to watch (Same point again and still an opinion) and deserving of qualification (Tripe - no robot is more or less deserving and even so, qualifying ahead of opponents isn't cheap), predictable (Still doesn't make it cheap), annoying (WTF are you on about, and STILL doesn't make it cheap), and one of the few robots I genuinely dislike (You don't like it, but that doesn't make it cheap). I don't say that often, but it's definitely earned the spot in my RW Hall of Shame. (Tripe again, and once more it doesn't make it cheap. You harbouring a dislike for it shouldn't put it in a Hall of Shame, it did NOTHING wrong, except irk you, it seems. The only people in the hall of shame should be the producers.)
Cheap in this instance is defined as 'stingy' or 'miserly' or 'shoddy' by Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cheap) - TAN and its tactics do not fit with any of these words. Nothing you said proves that TAN is cheap, only that you harbour a dislike for its tactics.
Just accept it, tan was fair and exciting because the push and shove contest was exciting as a bot coul give a good push.
Tldr, tan is fair.
T.A.N. also won without the pit, but lastly; what makes flipping bots out of the arena less cheap than pitting them. It was becoming a trend and to be honest I found TAN's matches better and much less like the rest of the series, which consisted of bots like Judge Shred 3 and M2 just OOTA'ing things.
I never really liked Panzer (the usa one). Or Tornado.
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Buddy Lee Don't Play in the Street (Should Have lost to Turbo/ Laziest engineering)Yes, because every robot that enters in a competition has to be superior in combat..
Minion (Worst Driving Displayed in Season 2 vs Atomic Wedgy) Fair enough, it derping, but I still minion.
Shaft (Looks like something that belongs in between two sheets of drywall) LOLWUT
Voltarc/Voltronic (Why would you get rid of invertability in favor of wheel covers?) I didn't get that either, still like the bot tho.
Revision Z (Loved their Driving, I just didn't get what the heck it did) Fair enough
Ronin (Lags in DSL, not to mention was slow and boring) And its RA2 counter-part makes it bad why... ?
Ginsu (First Vesion) (Too Heavy in the middle, almost split it in half just by driving the thing)
Tower of Power (Just Why?)
Agrippa (Team Delta confuses me, first they made a piece of crap. Then comes War Machine which was amazing) Most builders that start out are fairly inexperienced/don't have the monies to make something really awesome..
Run Amok (Wouldn't survive a second in a legitimate competition) So...Robotica isn't a legit competition ?
Missing Link (A Engine on wheels)
Gravity was the best at O.O.T.A.'s :mrgreen:T.A.N. also won without the pit, but lastly; what makes flipping bots out of the arena less cheap than pitting them. It was becoming a trend and to be honest I found TAN's matches better and much less like the rest of the series, which consisted of bots like Judge Shred 3 and M2 just OOTA'ing things.
Yeah, OOTA got boring after a while.
Stewbot. 'Nuff said.Why ?
1 word, legos. there's a bad quality video of it on youtube.So ? It's some great destruction !
Typhoon Twins: Due to new rule changes if one cluster bot was out, the other could still fight. Thats unfair.Not really, the total weight of cluster bots must be equal to a bot that isn't a cluster bot.
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Buddy Lee Don't Play in the Street (Should Have lost to Turbo/ Laziest engineering)Yes, because every robot that enters in a competition has to be superior in combat.. (From What I can tell from that fight, Turbo only broke 1 thing while it knocked the crap out of Buddy Lee. The Judging also didn't take into consideration what robot has more potential to go to the final 4. As displayed by Spaz, Buddy Lee wasn't the answer and Turbo could have wrecked Spaz...Easily)
Shaft (Looks like something that belongs in between two sheets of drywall) LOLWUT (The design with the padding made it look like wall insulation)
Ronin (Lags in DSL, not to mention was slow and boring) And its RA2 counter-part makes it bad why... ? (Lag)
Run Amok (Wouldn't survive a second in a legitimate competition) So...Robotica/US Robot Wars isn't a legit competition ? (If there was one good Horizontal Spinner on that show, Run Amok would be in pieces)
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Buddy Lee Don't Play in the Street (Should Have lost to Turbo/ Laziest engineering)Yes, because every robot that enters in a competition has to be superior in combat.. (From What I can tell from that fight, Turbo only broke 1 thing while it knocked the crap out of Buddy Lee. The Judging also didn't take into consideration what robot has more potential to go to the final 4. As displayed by Spaz, Buddy Lee wasn't the answer and Turbo could have wrecked Spaz...Easily)That was Buddy Lee's fight through and through, in my opinon. Buddy lee was the agressor and most of the damage was cosmetic, bar the wheel. And judges taking into consideration "more potential"? That is complete and utter Shash. Battles should be judged purely on the match and that match alone. Not other factors like "potential".
Shaft (Looks like something that belongs in between two sheets of drywall) LOLWUT (The design with the padding made it look like wall insulation)Don't remember this robot, so no comment. EDIT: ...You mean the padding stuff around the motors? Thats a bit of a flimsy excuse to not like a robot.
Ronin (Lags in DSL, not to mention was slow and boring) And its RA2 counter-part makes it bad why... ? (Lag)Now point out a flaw about the actual, real life Ronin.
Run Amok (Wouldn't survive a second in a legitimate competition) So...Robotica/US Robot Wars isn't a legit competition ? (If there was one good Horizontal Spinner on that show, Run Amok would be in pieces) But there wasn't. Robotica was basically one big obstacle course. Run Amok was made for that obstacle course and was good at said competition. You probably wouldn't have seen a Horizontal spinner in Robotica was it would be too much effort for one fight. It's no good planning for the FTTF if you never get there. I personally like Run Amok as it was simple and effective. Also i'm a sucker for car steering.
I wouldn't mind this, aside from the fact that this didn't apply in the main competition, so Black And Blue was eliminated in Round 1 because only one half of the bot broke down. If it was the same across the board, regardless of weight class, then that would be fine.Typhoon Twins: Due to new rule changes if one cluster bot was out, the other could still fight. Thats unfair.Not really, the total weight of cluster bots must be equal to a bot that isn't a cluster bot.
Now point out a flaw about the actual, real life Ronin.
Technically, it was actually because one half ended up in the pit- the exact same thing happened to Typhoon Lightning, and the clusterbot itself was not eliminated. It just irritated me to see that they appeared to make that rule solely for the Typhoon Twins to continue in the Middleweight Tournament- quite unsporting when you consider that, along with the original Typhoon, it was more or less a team of three robots against two seperate ones in the finals.I wouldn't mind this, aside from the fact that this didn't apply in the main competition, so Black And Blue was eliminated in Round 1 because only one half of the bot broke down. If it was the same across the board, regardless of weight class, then that would be fine.Typhoon Twins: Due to new rule changes if one cluster bot was out, the other could still fight. Thats unfair.Not really, the total weight of cluster bots must be equal to a bot that isn't a cluster bot.
I try. :P
THISNow point out a flaw about the actual, real life Ronin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R53Y8cC8vRI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R53Y8cC8vRI#)
I like Steel Avenger. I just thought it was cool. =) Better than Dominator II.
Another one... Juggerbot... If you thought putting a welded frame around your robot was cheap (which in my mind was ok)... these gaylords put a net with tape on theirs to snag Ultra Violence's Blade (Which is totally pushing it). Also these guys from what I remember were egotistical and very annoying.
Another one... Juggerbot... If you thought putting a welded frame around your robot was cheap (which in my mind was ok)... these gaylords put a net with tape on theirs to snag Ultra Violence's Blade (Which is totally pushing it). Also these guys from what I remember were egotistical and very annoying.I remember watching that on YT and thinking "...I thought entanglement devices were prohibited..."
Cassius II was meh.
it's someones time of the month
Let me get this out of my system
Chaos 2 sucks, biohazard would beat him, Biohazard is a piece of crap and it was no surprise he got mangled by megabyte. Megabyte is a generic POS and needs to stop existing. Nightmare was worthless, Warhead was ugly, Razor was over-estimated and the UK doesn't need anymore flippers. The US doesn't need any more spinners and Brazil doesn't need any more drums. Tornado didn't cheat, although it was rule bending changing the design before fights has been allowed since Mark Thorpe wrote the first rules. Firestorm was a flawed design, Cassius was not the first to have a self right arm, and ShriMech sounds gay on so many levels. WBC needs to fight again, the rules about safety in the UK are gay. Mauler was a good robot except for the fact it was built by meth head rednecks. I think Inf is a pretty cool guy, unlike the builders of razor. Jpearce was annoying, Jeremy clarkson was a better host that red-dwarf whateverinstein. Mentorn didn't steal anything, Marc had no idea what he was doing and the UK had perfect rights to take the name Robot Wars, but not the sport itself. I like the look of Runamok but Aaron and Mark are fags.
/trollrant
Lloop's thread, not yours.Let me get this out of my system
Chaos 2 sucks, biohazard would beat him, Biohazard is a piece of crap and it was no surprise he got mangled by megabyte. Megabyte is a generic POS and needs to stop existing. Nightmare was worthless, Warhead was ugly, Razor was over-estimated and the UK doesn't need anymore flippers. The US doesn't need any more spinners and Brazil doesn't need any more drums. Tornado didn't cheat, although it was rule bending changing the design before fights has been allowed since Mark Thorpe wrote the first rules. Firestorm was a flawed design, Cassius was not the first to have a self right arm, and ShriMech sounds gay on so many levels. WBC needs to fight again, the rules about safety in the UK are gay. Mauler was a good robot except for the fact it was built by meth head rednecks. I think Inf is a pretty cool guy, unlike the builders of razor. Jpearce was annoying, Jeremy clarkson was a better host that red-dwarf whateverinstein. Mentorn didn't steal anything, Marc had no idea what he was doing and the UK had perfect rights to take the name Robot Wars, but not the sport itself. I like the look of Runamok but Aaron and Mark are fags.
/trollrant
How DARE you pull A Garvin, In... In my... IN MY THREAD!!~!!!!!!!!!!~!!!
Lloop's thread, not yours.Let me get this out of my system
Chaos 2 sucks, biohazard would beat him, Biohazard is a piece of crap and it was no surprise he got mangled by megabyte. Megabyte is a generic POS and needs to stop existing. Nightmare was worthless, Warhead was ugly, Razor was over-estimated and the UK doesn't need anymore flippers. The US doesn't need any more spinners and Brazil doesn't need any more drums. Tornado didn't cheat, although it was rule bending changing the design before fights has been allowed since Mark Thorpe wrote the first rules. Firestorm was a flawed design, Cassius was not the first to have a self right arm, and ShriMech sounds gay on so many levels. WBC needs to fight again, the rules about safety in the UK are gay. Mauler was a good robot except for the fact it was built by meth head rednecks. I think Inf is a pretty cool guy, unlike the builders of razor. Jpearce was annoying, Jeremy clarkson was a better host that red-dwarf whateverinstein. Mentorn didn't steal anything, Marc had no idea what he was doing and the UK had perfect rights to take the name Robot Wars, but not the sport itself. I like the look of Runamok but Aaron and Mark are fags.
/trollrant
How DARE you pull A Garvin, In... In my... IN MY THREAD!!~!!!!!!!!!!~!!!
Lloop's thread, not yours.Let me get this out of my system
Chaos 2 sucks, biohazard would beat him, Biohazard is a piece of crap and it was no surprise he got mangled by megabyte. Megabyte is a generic POS and needs to stop existing. Nightmare was worthless, Warhead was ugly, Razor was over-estimated and the UK doesn't need anymore flippers. The US doesn't need any more spinners and Brazil doesn't need any more drums. Tornado didn't cheat, although it was rule bending changing the design before fights has been allowed since Mark Thorpe wrote the first rules. Firestorm was a flawed design, Cassius was not the first to have a self right arm, and ShriMech sounds gay on so many levels. WBC needs to fight again, the rules about safety in the UK are gay. Mauler was a good robot except for the fact it was built by meth head rednecks. I think Inf is a pretty cool guy, unlike the builders of razor. Jpearce was annoying, Jeremy clarkson was a better host that red-dwarf whateverinstein. Mentorn didn't steal anything, Marc had no idea what he was doing and the UK had perfect rights to take the name Robot Wars, but not the sport itself. I like the look of Runamok but Aaron and Mark are fags.
/trollrant
How DARE you pull A Garvin, In... In my... IN MY THREAD!!~!!!!!!!!!!~!!!
Lloop's thread, not yours.Let me get this out of my system
Chaos 2 sucks, biohazard would beat him, Biohazard is a piece of crap and it was no surprise he got mangled by megabyte. Megabyte is a generic POS and needs to stop existing. Nightmare was worthless, Warhead was ugly, Razor was over-estimated and the UK doesn't need anymore flippers. The US doesn't need any more spinners and Brazil doesn't need any more drums. Tornado didn't cheat, although it was rule bending changing the design before fights has been allowed since Mark Thorpe wrote the first rules. Firestorm was a flawed design, Cassius was not the first to have a self right arm, and ShriMech sounds gay on so many levels. WBC needs to fight again, the rules about safety in the UK are gay. Mauler was a good robot except for the fact it was built by meth head rednecks. I think Inf is a pretty cool guy, unlike the builders of razor. Jpearce was annoying, Jeremy clarkson was a better host that red-dwarf whateverinstein. Mentorn didn't steal anything, Marc had no idea what he was doing and the UK had perfect rights to take the name Robot Wars, but not the sport itself. I like the look of Runamok but Aaron and Mark are fags.
/trollrant
How DARE you pull A Garvin, In... In my... IN MY THREAD!!~!!!!!!!!!!~!!!
No, actualluy, You don't get it. You wernt around then.
I have freinds.But no Friends?
lol@butthurt over my favrite robotlol wloases to 1 of teh most invoativ bots everrr
sorry about your coffe bro, i'll buy you another some time.it's someones time of the month
Thanks Haz, I just spat coffee on my computer screen laughing at that one.... :S
sorry about your coffe bro, i'll buy you another some time.it's someones time of the month
Thanks Haz, I just spat coffee on my computer screen laughing at that one.... :S
on another note, i don't really like many american robots, the seem a bit samey
sorry about your coffe bro, i'll buy you another some time.it's someones time of the month
Thanks Haz, I just spat coffee on my computer screen laughing at that one.... :S
on another note, i don't really like many american robots, the seem a bit samey
lol ok. Yes I agree about that, the only really innovative robots were Nightmare (HUGE DISC), Warhead (although British), Run Amok (for it's epicness) and Diesector (for its epic clamp)
Vlad The Impaler had the first Self-Righting Mechanism, IIRC. It used a pneumatic piston to kick itself back over onto its wheels after Biohazard had overturned it. It didn't win, though, but I'd still say that quantifies innovation.
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. But it added those skirts, so it lost the self-righting ability.sorry about your coffe bro, i'll buy you another some time.it's someones time of the month
Thanks Haz, I just spat coffee on my computer screen laughing at that one.... :S
on another note, i don't really like many american robots, the seem a bit samey
lol ok. Yes I agree about that, the only really innovative robots were Nightmare (HUGE DISC), Warhead (although British), Run Amok (for it's epicness) and Diesector (for its epic clamp)
How many bots have you looked at?Vlad The Impaler had the first Self-Righting Mechanism, IIRC. It used a pneumatic piston to kick itself back over onto its wheels after Biohazard had overturned it. It didn't win, though, but I'd still say that quantifies innovation.
Biohazard selfrighted first.
Vlad The Impaler had the first Self-Righting Mechanism, IIRC. It used a pneumatic piston to kick itself back over onto its wheels after Biohazard had overturned it. It didn't win, though, but I'd still say that quantifies innovation.
JUST PUTTING THIS OUT THERE, but Tough As Nails is my favourite robot of all time. It's absolutely beautifully designed and I loved watching it in action. And it looked really, really cool.maybe this is why gf hasn't been active recently. :P
JUST PUTTING THIS OUT THERE, but Tough As Nails is my favourite robot of all time. It's absolutely beautifully designed and I loved watching it in action. And it looked really, really cool.
I agree that it was a very well-engineered robot, and a great piece of design, but it could have put on a better show during its matches, rather than the clamp-and-pit tactics.
Oddly, Crushtacean used broadly similar tactics, why has no-one been going on about that one?
Just to stop this from turning into the TAN appreciation club (Of which I would be a proud member)
I think the reason I didn't like Razer is because it was almost too perfect. If that makes any sense. If a robot faced Razer 9/10 times you could tell which way the match would go. Don't get me wrong, it was a marvel of engineering and thing of beauty. But still.
Just to stop this from turning into the TAN appreciation club (Of which I would be a proud member)Razer was no good anyway, the new Tiberius is about ten times better
I think the reason I didn't like Razer is because it was almost too perfect. If that makes any sense. If a robot faced Razer 9/10 times you could tell which way the match would go. Don't get me wrong, it was a marvel of engineering and thing of beauty. But still.
At the time Razer was good, that's undeniable, whether you liked it nor not and despite the blatant rigging of the show in its favour.
Btw guys... Why Razer did not enter to Season 7? o_o
oooh i think it couldBtw guys... Why Razer did not enter to Season 7? o_o
I honestly don't know. Storm II would not have survived against Razer.
Why can nobody answer to my question? ._.Because nobody has one, I know not one person who does know.
Btw guys... Why Razer did not enter to Season 7? o_o
"There was also an incident during the European Championship filmed as part of the 2nd UK Extreme series which went a long way to helping me make this difficult decision [quitting the Razer team].
During our fight with Tornado we were immobile and had held on with the claw for far, far longer than the permitted one minute and should have been disqualified or counted out. We were then shockingly given a judges' decision which was never ours, and both myself and Simon immediately wanted to hand it back to Tornado.
Ian, as team captain, refused and a long discussion was needed to resolve matters. When I pointed out that a democratic team vote would mean that we should hand the match back I was told by Ian "You didn't build the machine so your vote doesn't count". After giving so much of my life to the team you can probably understand I was more than a little miffed at that comment! Also, the matter had nothing to do with machine construction as it was all down to our honour and integrity, and I believe I had as much a say in that as Ian and Simon.
Ian eventually relented the following morning, but refused to be part of the filming when we handed the match back to Tornado. I considered this to be a little hypocritical from someone who in previous series had stated to camera 'we're an honorable team'. It was also a clear indication of how much Ian hates losing. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for storming out after the Pussycat fight in Series 4, but this second show of what can only be described as petulance was too much for me. A seed of doubt had been planted in my mind and several months later it bore fruit in the shape of my decision to retire.
This may sound a little ungrateful to some but it is the truth of the matter, and inspite of this I will always be thankful for all the truly wonderful moments that Ian and Simon gave me the chance to experience. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the other roboteers, the film crews and most importantly of all the multitude of fans that have given me such great memories during my time as a roboteer. I do miss you all!"
At the time Razer was good, that's undeniable, whether you liked it nor not and despite the blatant rigging of the show in its favour.
Blatant rigging? A few examples? The Tornado anti-crusher web went the way of Tornado.
Such as in series 6 where Chaos 2 was pitted up against mostly bots that couldn't self-right or didn't have very good weaponly (Mighty Mouse, Destructosaur, etc.)At the time Razer was good, that's undeniable, whether you liked it nor not and despite the blatant rigging of the show in its favour.
Blatant rigging? A few examples? The Tornado anti-crusher web went the way of Tornado.
Ridiculously easy heat matchups in Series 3, 4, 5 and 6.
Smashy likes Razer? Thank god, someone finally has some sense around here.Grammar Nazis are after you.
Smashy likes Razer? Thank god, someone finally has some sense around here.Grammar Nazis are after you.
smashy likes Razer? Thank gog someone finnaly got some sense around here.
I never really cared for Pussycat. It just... Bugs me
I never really cared for Pussycat. It just... Bugs me
The idea that he always landed on his .... paws.... was cool though.
maybe the team didnt like channel 5??
or they had got to atached to razer and wanted to keep it shiny for display?
maybe they had decided that they were going to step down and let new robots fight?
maybe razer was getting outdated?
maybe razer had been kidnapped by a small army of ninja pirates and so could not enter?
pick your favourite.
Before S7 I did a lot of research, a lot of my time was taken on the phone to Steve Carsey, to-ing and fro-ing.
As a high profile team I felt it finally layed upon us to put it 'all' on the line, FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR 'EVERYONE' INVOLVED.
I could see, as well as Steve, that if 'Things' did not reach a critical mass 'again' then we were all in for the arrival of the end of our beloved RW.
Mentorn played a very cool business line, we nearly pulled it off.
Back ground conversations go on, not even the greatest gossips know the whole story or ever will. I don't discuss everything.
A few of us stood very strong, and painfully bit our lip as the show went ahead. We heard the BS gossip that was flying around, and the people fuelling it..........judge their caracter if you will.
Simon and I have had to 'Step up to the Mark' on many occasions,and we've stood strong, here and in the U.S.
We are proud of our achievements and respect whole heartedly the achievements of others.
The picture and story is a very complex one, never try to genralise, it misrepresents and doesn't do the parties involved, the justice they deserve.
Here's to happier days where we all have a dam good battle, " like nothing better ".
Ian...........Razer
FOR FUN.I never really cared for Pussycat. It just... Bugs me
The idea that he always landed on his .... paws.... was cool though.
Yeah. It definitley was unique. I also hated Diotor. It was just silly. Why would you put Fur on a robot when you KNOW it will be put in a arena with flames?
This. Hence why if I ever do get around to learning how to build a robot, it shall be painted in bright colours and have a smiley face on the front.FOR FUN.I never really cared for Pussycat. It just... Bugs me
The idea that he always landed on his .... paws.... was cool though.
Yeah. It definitley was unique. I also hated Diotor. It was just silly. Why would you put Fur on a robot when you KNOW it will be put in a arena with flames?
THAT IS WHY THIS SPORT EXISTS.
Another couple robots I am not fond of... Atomic and Wheely Big Cheese... both used Nitrogen in their flippers and I believe that is beyond stupid (Especially with Atomic's setup with a Fire Extinguisher can)
Another couple robots I am not fond of... Atomic and Wheely Big Cheese... both used Nitrogen in their flippers and I believe that is beyond stupid (Especially with Atomic's setup with a Fire Extinguisher can)
Another couple robots I am not fond of... Atomic and Wheely Big Cheese... both used Nitrogen in their flippers and I believe that is beyond stupid (Especially with Atomic's setup with a Fire Extinguisher can)
Nitrogen is totally safe as long as you don't exceed your systems pressure ratings. A typical 4" bore cylinder can do 2,700 psi and almost all consumer grade air tanks (paintball) are rated for 3000 psi. Also there's this nice thing called a burst disc that is in all paintball tanks and in most pressure gauges that will burst when a certain pressure is reached.
My thoughts on running an over pressured system are, let them do it and if it blows up it's just an assumed risk that the builder had to take.
This. Hence why if I ever do get around to learning how to build a robot, it shall be painted in bright colours and have a smiley face on the front.FOR FUN.I never really cared for Pussycat. It just... Bugs me
The idea that he always landed on his .... paws.... was cool though.
Yeah. It definitley was unique. I also hated Diotor. It was just silly. Why would you put Fur on a robot when you KNOW it will be put in a arena with flames?
THAT IS WHY THIS SPORT EXISTS.
I always liked the teams that had some sort of gimmick, like Nemesis, Plunderbird, Sir Chromalot, even Robochicken. They brought such a lot of fun to the sport, I would love for that aspect of it to be brought back.
Does/Didn't Ziggy in the US use nitrogen?No, CO2...
i can see the "if it blows up in their face its their fault" point but they were puting others in danger (in the pits and arming the robot)
Voltarc and Overkill. They didn't do anything against the rules, but I felt like a lot of their wins were cheap ways of winning judges' decisions (holding your opponent without damaging it, and waving around a giant blade that doesn't do any damage but looks like it does)Agree. At least Nightmare obliterated you or died trying :L
Agree. At least Nightmare obliterated you or died trying :L*Agrees and remembers Nightmare vs SlamJob*
Aye- it always dominated, or got dominated. A bit like HypnoDisc, really.Voltarc and Overkill. They didn't do anything against the rules, but I felt like a lot of their wins were cheap ways of winning judges' decisions (holding your opponent without damaging it, and waving around a giant blade that doesn't do any damage but looks like it does)Agree. At least Nightmare obliterated you or died trying :L
Hypnodisc vs. Splinter:Aye- it always dominated, or got dominated. A bit like HypnoDisc, really.Voltarc and Overkill. They didn't do anything against the rules, but I felt like a lot of their wins were cheap ways of winning judges' decisions (holding your opponent without damaging it, and waving around a giant blade that doesn't do any damage but looks like it does)Agree. At least Nightmare obliterated you or died trying :L
Never liked Razer very much. All it did was make holes vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwwlllyyy.......Well, at least it actually made holes, unlike a certain oversized pair of tongs....
Is that a subtle reference to everybodys *ahem* favourite robot? :mrgreen:Never liked Razer very much. All it did was make holes vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwwlllyyy.......Well, at least it actually made holes, unlike a certain oversized pair of tongs....
Which is?Is that a subtle reference to everybodys *ahem* favourite robot? :mrgreen:Never liked Razer very much. All it did was make holes vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwwlllyyy.......Well, at least it actually made holes, unlike a certain oversized pair of tongs....
Tough as Nails, GF absolutely hates it and thinks it's cheap.Which is?Is that a subtle reference to everybodys *ahem* favourite robot? :mrgreen:Never liked Razer very much. All it did was make holes vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwwlllyyy.......Well, at least it actually made holes, unlike a certain oversized pair of tongs....
FTFYWhich is?Is that a subtle reference to everybodys *ahem* favourite robot? :mrgreen:Never liked Razer very much. All it did was make holes vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwwlllyyy.......Well, at least it actually made holes, unlike a certain oversized pair of tongs....Tough as Nails.Cheap as Chips
I assume he means cheap wins :gawe:Correct.
FTFYWhich is?Is that a subtle reference to everybodys *ahem* favourite robot? :mrgreen:Never liked Razer very much. All it did was make holes vvveeerrryyy ssslllooowwwlllyyy.......Well, at least it actually made holes, unlike a certain oversized pair of tongs....Tough as Nails.Cheap as Chips
I assume he means cheap wins :gawe:Correct.
Just shut up. I'm entitled to my opinion as much as you are to yours.I assume he means cheap wins :gawe:Correct.
Aye, wins via the pit. Pits of course being the incredibly cheap method of winning GF93 championed against Naryar.
I'm not denying you your opinion - I'm merely saying my own, which as you say, I am entitled to.You obviously are- in how you're pretty much looking down on me for not liking it. I realise this is going to be BAWing, but really- is there a justifiable reason to be hounded this much for not liking it?
Because your reason is, um, unreasonable. Pitting bots was probably more difficult than flipping them out by Series 7, because so many bots were adapted to fight clamps, spinners, and bots with horizontal weapons. The amount of crap you give a fantastically engineered and damaging (see the battle with Robochicken; and before you start whining about how little damage it does, have a look at your little flippers which do even less damage, both superficially and internally) robot because you simply don't like it is both insulting to its creator and poorly reasoned.I'm not denying you your opinion - I'm merely saying my own, which as you say, I am entitled to.You obviously are- in how you're pretty much looking down on me for not liking it. I realise this is going to be BAWing, but really- is there a justifiable reason to be hounded this much for not liking it?
You do have a point about pitting robots being harder than OOTAing in Series 7- whilst it's great to look forward to at the end of a fight and a good way to give certain robot types a fighting chance against others (IE. A flipper or a rammer against a spinner or an axe), you'd expect them to sometimes branch out and utilise different means of winning every now and then, and failing that (IE. Panic Attack or Razer), at the very least be somewhat exciting to watch- sure flippers didn't do that much damage, but their performances of throwing opponents around rather than gently holding them (Robochicken's armour was below average, so don't try to use it as the cure all-end all example to my argument, here) and relying on one thing and one thing only to win at least made them entertaining to watch. TAN was neither of these things.Because your reason is, um, unreasonable. Pitting bots was probably more difficult than flipping them out by Series 7, because so many bots were adapted to fight clamps, spinners, and bots with horizontal weapons. The amount of crap you give a fantastically engineered and damaging (see the battle with Robochicken; and before you start whining about how little damage it does, have a look at your little flippers which do even less damage, both superficially and internally) robot because you simply don't like it is both insulting to its creator and poorly reasoned.I'm not denying you your opinion - I'm merely saying my own, which as you say, I am entitled to.You obviously are- in how you're pretty much looking down on me for not liking it. I realise this is going to be BAWing, but really- is there a justifiable reason to be hounded this much for not liking it?
Do you dislike Panic Attack?Yes, the driving was immense, and a few brownie points because it used to be my local bot. TAN took a while to pit a bot really apart from DO. I didn't find TAN's pitting cheap, just annoying. With flippers, at least you can be shocked when a robot flies out the arena. With TAN, you can take one look at the opponent's design and decide who will win.
Because your reason is, um, unreasonable. Pitting bots was probably more difficult than flipping them out by Series 7, because so many bots were adapted to fight clamps, spinners, and bots with horizontal weapons. The amount of crap you give a fantastically engineered and damaging (see the battle with Robochicken; and before you start whining about how little damage it does, have a look at your little flippers which do even less damage, both superficially and internally) robot because you simply don't like it is both insulting to its creator and poorly reasoned.You do have a point about pitting robots being harder than OOTAing in Series 7- whilst it's great to look forward to at the end of a fight and a good way to give certain robot types a fighting chance against others (IE. A flipper or a rammer against a spinner or an axe), you'd expect them to sometimes branch out and utilise different means of winning every now and then, and failing that (IE. Panic Attack or Razer), at the very least be somewhat exciting to watch- sure flippers didn't do that much damage, but their performances of throwing opponents around rather than gently holding them (Robochicken's armour was below average, so don't try to use it as the cure all-end all example to my argument, here) and relying on one thing and one thing only to win at least made them entertaining to watch. TAN was neither of these things.
As a final point, I do like how you make me out to be some kind of perpetual whiner who dislikes it simply because it exists and with intent to personally attack its creator- real mature, mate.
...and me.I assume he means cheap wins :gawe:Correct.
Aye, wins via the pit. Pits of course being the incredibly cheap method of winning GF93 championed against Naryar.
You do have a point about pitting robots being harder than OOTAing in Series 7- whilst it's great to look forward to at the end of a fight and a good way to give certain robot types a fighting chance against others (IE. A flipper or a rammer against a spinner or an axe), you'd expect them to sometimes branch out and utilise different means of winning every now and then, and failing that (IE. Panic Attack or Razer), at the very least be somewhat exciting to watch- sure flippers didn't do that much damage, but their performances of throwing opponents around rather than gently holding them (Robochicken's armour was below average, so don't try to use it as the cure all-end all example to my argument, here) and relying on one thing and one thing only to win at least made them entertaining to watch. TAN was neither of these things.Paragraph 1, since I feel like if you are going to personally insult me, I might as well make a protest.
As a final point, I do like how you make me out to be some kind of perpetual whiner who dislikes it simply because it exists and with intent to personally attack its creator- real mature, mate.
In fact, the way you take me having an honest opinion and twisting it to make me look like some kind of monster for it, makes you worse than me in that regard.
Now I want to end this- I'm sick of belligerent idiots like you picking fights with me over my opinion.
i think someone's mad.Rather- serious business.
Ee'yup.i think someone's mad.Rather- serious business.
I find it ironic that you are against a bot that used pits to its advantage when you supported pits a lot.Meh, he's right that it goes waaaayyyyyy overboard, but many bots were like that, anyways.
Kim was great in the early series, but I have to say my favorite driver was the Bulldog Breed dude.Yeah- it's amazing how Bulldog Breed changed over time. From going six inches in its first ever battle to flipping Pussycat OOTA, single-handedly winning the Extreme 2 Tag Team Terror, and almost getting to a Grand Final in its last series.
Or TAN's :trollface
BB is one of my favourate robots ever, if not my favourate. The team weren't annoying (Plunderbird) or used cheap tactics (Tornado, I mean come on, that frame was total BS.) and they got better and better.Drop the patriotic act or we'll become like the Americans; too patriotic too often.
Also, combined my love of flipperswith my love of Great Britain. God save the queen.
I hate everything that is not Dantomkia.Trolls be trolling :laughing
No, I'm acting normal. That is, when you feel really tired and a fat guy has at on your face. And various other sh**I hate everything that is not Dantomkia.Trolls be trolling :laughing
Ah, right.No, I'm acting normal. That is, when you feel really tired and a fat guy has at on your face. And various other sh**I hate everything that is not Dantomkia.Trolls be trolling :laughing
or used cheap tactics (Tornado, I mean come on, that frame was total BS.)
or used cheap tactics (Tornado, I mean come on, that frame was total BS.)
Also, combined my love of flipperswith my love of Great Britain. God save the queen.(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/57181nicecupsoftea.png)
I like Dantomkia. Would you like to know why?I know why. :D
Winner! Although it was where I was =DI like Dantomkia. Would you like to know why?I know why. :D
A similar story with me and Stinger, really- I thought it was good to see Lincolnshire have a decent RW representative :approve:Winner! Although it was where I was =DI like Dantomkia. Would you like to know why?I know why. :D
i live near the guys who build disc constructer ( i think thats what its called)
Pity that it went to the Killerhurtz School of Driving, though =Pi live near the guys who build disc constructer ( i think thats what its called)
I thought that was a promising robot.
I don't know the slightest thing about it. Care to elaborate?http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Disconstructor (http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Disconstructor)
I don't know the slightest thing about it. Care to elaborate?Drew Tornado in Series 7. Lost in first round, though should have reached heat semi.
I used to live around wheely big cheese and iron aweLangport, Somerset?
Indeed.I used to live around wheely big cheese and iron aweLangport, Somerset?
I live in the house that Shish-Kabot was built in.
Didn't SKBT build Shish-Kabot?I live in the house that Shish-Kabot was built in.
NOWAI
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh51/ZuLiIiIi/Various/thats_the_joke.jpg)Didn't SKBT build Shish-Kabot?I live in the house that Shish-Kabot was built in.
NOWAI
(didn't understand the joke)
A team I disliked in general was Team Typhoon- they lied about the state of Typhoon 2 in the Series 7 final, and then in the MW finals, ganged up on two robots with three.Agreed, then refused to hand the series 7 title over when the truth was reveiled
All of these occurances were the producer's faults, not the teamI don't exactly call lying about the state your robot was in (after the battle had finished, and not when the wall was broken) the fault of the producers. Granted they didn't tell the judges about the initial repairs, but the point is- the team still lied about Typhoon 2's state of repair after the fight, claiming it was "Like new" even after Storm II had broken a drive chain after the fight continued.
Gary Cairns (driver of Typhoon 2) still attends events, (builder of Hornet, and current owner of B*ner), and is somebody I can quite confidently say would not cheat his way to victory
Funny story,
Team Tough As Nails bought Cassius 2 a few years back, and were recently looking for - and I quote - "A fine upstanding handsome young Englishman to take Cassius 2 off our hands." I gave them your name, but they insisted on doing a background check. One thing lead to another, and they found the comments you'd made in this thread.
Anyways, last I heard from them, they'd started using using Cassius 2 as a crunch-test-dummy for TAN.
Nah, it isn't. I know when they're trying to troll me ^^Funny story,
Team Tough As Nails bought Cassius 2 a few years back, and were recently looking for - and I quote - "A fine upstanding handsome young Englishman to take Cassius 2 off our hands." I gave them your name, but they insisted on doing a background check. One thing lead to another, and they found the comments you'd made in this thread.
Anyways, last I heard from them, they'd started using using Cassius 2 as a crunch-test-dummy for TAN.
this better be a true story because that is easily the most ironic thing I've ever seen
They also raped and pillaged and spread anthrax throughout the world, killing millions.Which bot were you with?
I don't like them because I lost to them when I was on robot wars :P
The team didn't lie - the producers were the ones to inform the judges, and they were the ones who didn't tell them about any damage.All of these occurances were the producer's faults, not the teamI don't exactly call lying about the state your robot was in (after the battle had finished, and not when the wall was broken) the fault of the producers. Granted they didn't tell the judges about the initial repairs, but the point is- the team still lied about Typhoon 2's state of repair after the fight, claiming it was "Like new" even after Storm II had broken a drive chain after the fight continued.
Gary Cairns (driver of Typhoon 2) still attends events, (builder of Hornet, and current owner of B*ner), and is somebody I can quite confidently say would not cheat his way to victory
Nah, it isn't. I know when they're trying to troll me ^^Funny story,
Team Tough As Nails bought Cassius 2 a few years back, and were recently looking for - and I quote - "A fine upstanding handsome young Englishman to take Cassius 2 off our hands." I gave them your name, but they insisted on doing a background check. One thing lead to another, and they found the comments you'd made in this thread.
Anyways, last I heard from them, they'd started using using Cassius 2 as a crunch-test-dummy for TAN.
this better be a true story because that is easily the most ironic thing I've ever seen
Clarkson was kind of a jerk in the 1st wars."Oh no, the one that looks like a dustbin is out...and you jumped the start! Whose fault was it then, Father Christmas'?"
Yeah. Pity somepony took it too seriously...Nah, it isn't. I know when they're trying to troll me ^^Funny story,
Team Tough As Nails bought Cassius 2 a few years back, and were recently looking for - and I quote - "A fine upstanding handsome young Englishman to take Cassius 2 off our hands." I gave them your name, but they insisted on doing a background check. One thing lead to another, and they found the comments you'd made in this thread.
Anyways, last I heard from them, they'd started using using Cassius 2 as a crunch-test-dummy for TAN.
this better be a true story because that is easily the most ironic thing I've ever seen
To be fair, I posted that before all the sand started getting kicked up - it was funnier then.
Malc 1.5.Nah, they were cool. Terrible but cool.
That was the team Conraaa was in, actually.Malc 1.5.Nah, they were cool. Terrible but cool.
Well, I hope he wasn't saying my bot was terrible :PThey also raped and pillaged and spread anthrax throughout the world, killing millions.Which bot were you with?
I don't like them because I lost to them when I was on robot wars :P
Are you Connor or Dad?Connor.
Cool beans- I hadn't known you'd actually competed ^^Are you Connor or Dad?Connor.
GF you don't even know the full story behind itAll of these occurances were the producer's faults, not the teamI don't exactly call lying about the state your robot was in (after the battle had finished, and not when the wall was broken) the fault of the producers. Granted they didn't tell the judges about the initial repairs, but the point is- the team still lied about Typhoon 2's state of repair after the fight, claiming it was "Like new" even after Storm II had broken a drive chain after the fight continued.
Gary Cairns (driver of Typhoon 2) still attends events, (builder of Hornet, and current owner of B*ner), and is somebody I can quite confidently say would not cheat his way to victory
All of these occurances were the producer's faults, not the teamare you telling me there is a robot called boner
Gary Cairns (driver of Typhoon 2) still attends events, (builder of Hornet, and current owner of B*ner), and is somebody I can quite confidently say would not cheat his way to victory
Well I guess you could say that he was rather cocky when he was naming it. [/lamepun]All of these occurances were the producer's faults, not the teamare you telling me there is a robot called boner
Gary Cairns (driver of Typhoon 2) still attends events, (builder of Hornet, and current owner of B*ner), and is somebody I can quite confidently say would not cheat his way to victory
yep, it is really called boner, i think just to anoy/embarass the comentater/anouncer.I actually had a flipper in RWAI called "Bloody Tosser" XD
for that same reason, if i was ever to build a flipper i would call it "tosser"
YesAll of these occurances were the producer's faults, not the teamare you telling me there is a robot called boner
Gary Cairns (driver of Typhoon 2) still attends events, (builder of Hornet, and current owner of B*ner), and is somebody I can quite confidently say would not cheat his way to victory
Easily one of the worst robots I can remember was B.O.D. from Series 7- I couldn't find a single redeeming aspect of this robot in terms of ability, nor construction.
No- that was Brutus Maximus. Even that lasted longer in both appearances than B.O.D. did, and it had Razer and Pussycat to deal with in seperate battles. B.O.D. was made out of paper-thin plastic that I think that even Mazakari could've cut through.Easily one of the worst robots I can remember was B.O.D. from Series 7- I couldn't find a single redeeming aspect of this robot in terms of ability, nor construction.
Was that not the one made out of plywood?
I never liked Gravedigger for some reason. It just seemed quite dull, and when they tried to improve it, they completely failed.
...that even Mazakari could've cut through.I liked Mazakari. If you are gonna make a reference to a crappy spinner then use Spin Doctor from Series 6 of Robot Wars
There is that, but I think everyone had their doubts about its power- it looked so light and slow that it probably wouldn't have been able to scratch Balsa Wood....that even Mazakari could've cut through.I liked Mazakari. If you are gonna make a reference to a crappy spinner then use Spin Doctor from Series 6 of Robot Wars
Mazakari's name was awesome.Yeah- that I can certainly agree on.
TotallyMazakari's name was awesome.Yeah- that I can certainly agree on.
~stuff~I just watched the Northern Annihilator, but I didn't see what you saw. I saw Spikasaurus being very aggressive and doing very well (Except the end, which was just dumb luck.) I think some one just having butt hurt.
I thought "Rat Amok" was dumb, mostly because of the uninteresting weapon."He's a radical rat"
http://members.toast.net/joerger/antweight.html (http://members.toast.net/joerger/antweight.html)
Typhoon, their whole team were liars, cheaters and general dicks.Er, no
Typhoon, their whole team were liars, cheaters and general dicks.Er, no
You do not have the right to talk about people like that when you have not even met them
so what, it was rather entertaining. And it eventually got a flipper.MeggaMouse is a completely different robot to Mighty Mouse
No, isn't there still a Mighty Mouse that competes with a flipper?Nope, that's MegaMouse you're thinking of. It's the same team granted, but it's grey rather than blue, is bigger, and has a flipper and exposed tyres.
I'm sorry, but they blatantly lied to the judges of the competition to win. That, to me, is cheating, so these's 2 of the 3 down. And entering 2 bots (basically 3 with he clusterbot) into the MW final is pretty cheap, doubling your chancs of winning, but when they obviously avoided each other, it goes into the realm of cheating, in my opinion. Obviously Mentorn felt differently.Look, half the time you don't even know that your robot is broken until you closely inspect it
And the 3rd one is down to one's opinion, I suppose.
In the second case, it's not so much cheating for me as it is very unsporting- ganging up on two seperate robots with three in a team.I'm sorry, but they blatantly lied to the judges of the competition to win. That, to me, is cheating, so these's 2 of the 3 down. And entering 2 bots (basically 3 with he clusterbot) into the MW final is pretty cheap, doubling your chancs of winning, but when they obviously avoided each other, it goes into the realm of cheating, in my opinion. Obviously Mentorn felt differently.Look, half the time you don't even know that your robot is broken until you closely inspect it
And the 3rd one is down to one's opinion, I suppose.
And the second is completely un-cheating! Several teams entered two heavyweights, so why should teams not be allowed to enter two middleweights?
Both Team Storm and a member from the Typhoon team still compete today. If there was cheating in the FINAL of Robot Wars, I'm sure there would be some obvious hard feelings, and there aren't any!
A bot I hate is Philliper, pitting the amazing Black Hole with sheer luck.I remember being so angry at Philliper for that comeback- had it not been for that stroke of luck, it would've been trounced, no doubt. And maybe Tornado too, depending on what weapon it had.
A bot I hate is Philliper, pitting the amazing Black Hole with sheer luck.I remember being so angry at Philliper for that comeback- had it not been for that stroke of luck, it would've been trounced, no doubt. And maybe Tornado too, depending on what weapon it had.
A bot I hate is Philliper, pitting the amazing Black Hole with sheer luck.I remember being so angry at Philliper for that comeback- had it not been for that stroke of luck, it would've been trounced, no doubt. And maybe Tornado too, depending on what weapon it had.
Probably not, Tornado would just equip the scoop weapon and give it the old heave-ho; if it could get pushed by a 2-wheeled Belgian, then no way it could stand up to Tornado. What would've been better was the inclusion of a 3rd place playoff; Razer vs Black Hole. Regardless of the winner, at least one of them would end their career on a high note.
My least favorite robots are:why panic attack?
Panic Attack
Sir Chromalot
Typhoon 2
My least favorite robots are:Excuse me?
Panic Attack
Sir Chromalot
Typhoon 2
He's allowed to; I didn't like Panic Attack post series 4.On the upside, Diotoir pushed it into the pit in series 5. :mrgreen:
Tornado; not for beating Razor in their debatably cheaty way, but for not being very interesting.
Plus it killed Tetanus Booster :(
On the upside, Diotoir pushed it into the pit in series 5. :mrgreen:Definitely one of my all-time favourite RW moments- watching that smug lot in the Tornado team shown who was boss by the underdogs :claping
It was probably the most epic moment EVER.
Can't it be both? ^^It was probably the most epic moment EVER.
Not epic. More like "triumphant".