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Off-Topic => Real Robotics => Real Robotics Discussion => Topic started by: The Answer on July 23, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
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Who would you NOT want to come back?
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Chris Jericho
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[Insert Big Titty Broad "Correspondent" That Makes Bad Innuendo Jokes About Things Like Deadblow's "Pecker" Here]
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All the post match interviewers. They were all interchangeable and didnt know jack about the bots. Get someone like Dan Danknick instead. That way, instead of going "What happened" after every match we can have some intelligent conversations.
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Ed Hoppit and Ian Lewis.
Apart from that they can all come back. I'd like Mortis to come back so they can get their asses handed to them by a completely new team, and wipe the smug attitude from them.
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Ed Hoppit
why ;_;7
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how was the mortis team smug? i haven't watched robot wars in a while, but i have heard the complaints before. i also heard somewhere that the producers of the show set them up to be smug and worthy of hate.
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Ian Lewis.
why?
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Ed Hoppit
why ;_;7
Ian Lewis.
why?
Either you guys are retarded or I'm being trolled bretty gud
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Ian Lewis.
why?
Either you guys are retarded or I'm being trolled bretty gud
Answer my question you skrub.
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i'd like to know as well.
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Sore loser about the Pussycat battle. "Oh noes they broke my pretty robot. We would never break anyone else's robot because we comply to the Gentlemen's Agreement. They cheated."
It's totally not like they never went full out on destruction. *Cough.* Widow's Revenge.
Jonathan Pearce even said Ian was just "bleating" about it and said, "Ian its in the nature of Robot Wars, if you're beaten then you're beaten, take it like a man!" in the vengeance battle.
He was generally pretty arrogant and a bit of a prick too.
Then there was the whole fiasco with Tornado in the European Championship which made Simon quit, then a couple of years later he kicked out Vinnie. (Think it was that order.)
I'm surprised he didn't whine when Razzler was beaten in the Antweight rumble.
Also Ed Hoppit is a tit. He was annoyingly smug and his voice bugged me.
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You have to remember, they're paying completely out of pocket for the "privilege" of being your entertainment, with no realistic expectation of any monetary compensation. How arrogant does that sound to you?
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Sore loser about the Pussycat battle. "Oh noes they broke my pretty robot. We would never break anyone else's robot because we comply to the Gentlemen's Agreement. They cheated."
It's totally not like they never went full out on destruction. *Cough.* Widow's Revenge.
Jonathan Pearce even said Ian was just "bleating" about it and said, "Ian its in the nature of Robot Wars, if you're beaten then you're beaten, take it like a man!" in the vengeance battle.
He was generally pretty arrogant and a bit of a prick too.
Then there was the whole fiasco with Tornado in the European Championship which made Simon quit, then a couple of years later he kicked out Vinnie. (Think it was that order.)
I'm surprised he didn't whine when Razzler was beaten in the Antweight rumble.
These are all news for me. Didn't know this happened.
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You have to remember, they're paying completely out of pocket for the "privilege" of being your entertainment, with no realistic expectation of any monetary compensation. How arrogant does that sound to you?
They gave out money prizes, but couldn't say they did because it was taxpayers money. They were allowed to say that there was a cash prize when Robot Wars moved to Channel Five because that operates differently.
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You have to remember, they're paying completely out of pocket for the "privilege" of being your entertainment, with no realistic expectation of any monetary compensation. How arrogant does that sound to you?
They gave out money prizes, but couldn't say they did because it was taxpayers money. They were allowed to say that there was a cash prize when Robot Wars moved to Channel Five because that operates differently.
Depended on what place they came though because I think you got 50 quid just for taking part. But, 50 quid would have been much less than the robot's cost in most cases, so Resetti's point still stands. Considering the money you got for taking part, the 101 team must've got their money's worth, eh?
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You have to remember, they're paying completely out of pocket for the "privilege" of being your entertainment, with no realistic expectation of any monetary compensation. How arrogant does that sound to you?
Razer was essentially the UK's equivalent to Biohazard. Surely they made out nicely in the way of winnings and royalties for likenesses and toys and all that other good stuff.
I'm not sure if Mortis' hate was manufactured or not but they certainly did carry an air of entitlement by describing at length their L30,000 robot.
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According to Rob Knight, the "out of pocket" cost for the initial build of Mortis was only 300 pounds. The rest came from numerous sponsorship and Cambridge University. The outrageous sums of money quoted on robot wars is the estimated total value of Mortis's components. I assume the biggest contributor to this was all the titanium and exotic aerospace composites used in the armor.
To get back on topic, if robot combat was back on TV, I'd prefer a battlebots-type arena to the robot wars one. The gap between the arena rails and the wall gave flippers a disproportionate advantage. Pits, killsaws and the like are fine though, because they make wedge fights much more exciting.
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You have to remember, they're paying completely out of pocket for the "privilege" of being your entertainment, with no realistic expectation of any monetary compensation. How arrogant does that sound to you?
Razer was essentially the UK's equivalent to Biohazard. Surely they made out nicely in the way of winnings and royalties for likenesses and toys and all that other good stuff.
I'm not sure if Mortis' hate was manufactured or not but they certainly did carry an air of entitlement by describing at length their L30,000 robot.
It was manufactured - it stemmed from them getting a mulligan that they undeniably deserved (there was a spike hazard on the "start" line, and it fired right at the beginning, breaking a tank track). For reasons I can't fathom, everyone said they were poor sports, even after they offered to take it on the chin and forefeit.
To get back on topic, if robot combat was back on TV, I'd prefer a battlebots-type arena to the robot wars one. The gap between the arena rails and the wall gave flippers a disproportionate advantage. Pits, killsaws and the like are fine though, because they make wedge fights much more exciting.
I disagree, why not just make the walls higher? You don't want to discourage people from making WBC and Gravity-esque flippers.
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But then the flywheels would have a harder job trying to punt something out, which was always good to watch.
It's also better to see something flying 10 feet above the floor over a 3 foot wall, than 10 feet above the floor over a 9 foot wall.
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I disagree, why not just make the walls higher? You don't want to discourage people from making WBC and Gravity-esque flippers.
Arena walls didn't stop Inertia Labs from their Toro series of BattleBots. :P
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Exactly. Flippers have done fine without a gap that allows OOTAs.
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I have no idea why battlebots/robot wars has not come back on air.
It would be cool if combots was a tv show.
I would probably end up spending my life savings on parts for a thwackbot.
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I have no idea why battlebots/robot wars has not come back on air.
It would be cool if combots was a tv show.
I would probably end up spending my life savings on parts for a thwackbot.
Probably the startup costs. The executive producer for Robot Wars had to take on about 100,000 pounds of debt just to get Series 1 started.
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In terms of who I wouldn't want back, it's a bit difficult for me to decide. Apart from certain pit/post battle interviewers, I can't really point out any particular people I wouldn't want back.
In terms of what I wouldn't want back though:
*Producer interference. Too many issues came up in Robot Wars because of the producers wanting to stick their fat fingers into everything. The case surrounding Storm 2 stands out in particular because they were pulling out every underhanded trick they could to get that machine out of the studio. The fact that the producers rigged the series 7 grand final so much from allowing Typhoon 2 to be fixed half way into the match to hiding evidence from the judges irritates me to this day. Just let the matches play out normally rather than trying to stick to a set plan.
*"MAKE SOME NOISE!!" If you're going to have presenters, please have them come off as genuine rather than screaming children's entertainers. As Votesaxon07 pointed out in his "Bring Back Robot Wars" video, Craig Charles went from an enthusiastic yet dry comedian, to an overly hyper lunatic in RW Extreme and onwards. I understand audience interaction is important, but telling your presenter to ham it up to extreme levels is absurd for something that's not a live event. If Craig were to come back to present Robot Wars or any robot combat show, I would hope the producers would allow him to be as natural as he was in series 2, 3 and 4.
*Arena gimmicks for the sake of it. Nobody likes arena spinners. Nobody likes hell raisers. That is all
*"Get back in the CPZ!" If you're going to have house robots, don't have them running about willy nilly in the arena actively looking for trouble. Poor Killertron and Ming 3 suffered because some jerkoff controlling a house robot said "Hey! The wrong robot is winning! Time to fix that!". They should only come out of their patrol zones if there's a robot that has been counted out or otherwise declared immobilized, and they should only go after that robot.
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I think that the nerdy state of some of the roboteers would need ironing out. Make the most confident member of the team do the talking and not the quietest team member otherwise the show gains a poor reputation and won't attract more publicity. rehearsing lines would help.
As mentioned the presenter would need to have enthusiasm when needed but for god sake don't seem obsessed. A comedian who can joke about something that the kids would find funny on one level, but from a small innuendo the adults would find it more entertaining. I don't know if anyone noticed Craig's adult jokes in the early days as they were so sly but... That made it entertaining for the adults. Battlebots did it too obviously and frankly the jokes were a little bit... Too far and too obvious. Mind the two presenters thing is something I think works.
Jimmy Carr I think would tick half the boxes but he's probably not quite loud enough for it. Russell Howard would be brilliant but I think presenting such a show would be out of comfort zone... But then again imagine David Attenborough doing it!
As for commentary, John Pearce is brilliant at commentating football but I think he just has no idea how to react with robot wars battles. He's either too enthusiastic/amused or not enough.
Teams need to be prepared to have a joke made at their expense to entertain viewers, they were too sensitive in the early series and then the rare ones were too depressive in the later series.
As for the arena, with the standard of robots today, anything more than what the robot wars live arenas have today would be a damn joke. Externally positioned CPZs would be idea too I think, much like the one in today's Robots Live arena, or the RW games Oil Rig arena. Filming.... They'd need Go Pros, more pyros. An arena wall design that doesn't give flippers nor spinner an advantage... So maybe just two flip out zones.
Personally I don't think it will make it back on the Air. A proper internet show with more effort out into it I think will work. But obviously investments will have to be made. Combots was good but the presenting style wasn't brilliant, neither was lighting and the music could've have been edited more and as much as I love drum and bass, they needed more suitable music.
Mind saying this, if that new robot boxing show can reel in enough viewers then maybe a new robot combat show can do so too, but it will need a lot of investing.
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Try to put a cap on the amount of veterans. I think we'd all want to see some fresh new faces.
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A comedian for a host would be quite a good idea. I'd like someone clever on the show like Dara O'Briain. If it was brought back they'd be very likely to choose Jason Bradbury because of The Gadget Show, but he'd get on my nerves.
Jimmy Carr wouldn't make that good a host, because he can't be himself.
I think the Mythbusters would be quite good at it. Not sure exactly who'd go where. Kari in the pits with Jamie. Adam or Tory would be a good host. Grant and whoever isn't the host out of Adam and Tory would be a good commentary duo.
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house robutts which didn't showed favoritism or/and were completely overpowered
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House Robots that were actually good. The only 2 decent House Robots were Matilda with the flywheel, and Growler.