Uk Style. We have Chaos 2, we have Firestorm, we have Cassius, they have T-minus...Eh...Toro...And...That's about it.I actually think the Matador is better than the UK bots you listed.
Although UK style flippers look cooler, they seem to be a bit to powerful and backfire:But it was pretty impressive :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk2xInly0BE&feature=channel_video_title# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk2xInly0BE&feature=channel_video_title#)
I picked American-style.
Either flipper is fine, it's all a mater of the arena it self. (UK style for distance, US style for height.)
I picked US flippers because they are more powerful and are cooler looking.Maybe, but it's how you implement it that matters- an expert driver with a basic robot is more likely to win than a novice with the latest technological marvel.
you seem to think that just because every bot in the uk is a flipper that every driver there is miraculously better than the USA. There are different drivers everywhere and saying that one country has better drivers than the other is just plain stupid.I picked US flippers because they are more powerful and are cooler looking.Maybe, but it's how you implement it that matters- an expert driver with a basic robot is more likely to win than a novice with the latest technological marvel.
Not explicitly implying that, but I was stating that there was more to a good flipper than simply being powerful and looking cool.you seem to think that just because every bot in the uk is a flipper that every driver there is miraculously better than the USA. There are different drivers everywhere and saying that one country has better drivers than the other is just plain stupid.I picked US flippers because they are more powerful and are cooler looking.Maybe, but it's how you implement it that matters- an expert driver with a basic robot is more likely to win than a novice with the latest technological marvel.
Not explicitly implying that, but I was stating that there was more to a good flipper than simply being powerful and looking cool.you seem to think that just because every bot in the uk is a flipper that every driver there is miraculously better than the USA. There are different drivers everywhere and saying that one country has better drivers than the other is just plain stupid.I picked US flippers because they are more powerful and are cooler looking.Maybe, but it's how you implement it that matters- an expert driver with a basic robot is more likely to win than a novice with the latest technological marvel.
Ziggy is from Canada.Which is in North America :trollface
What kind of question is this? UK,coming from american boy, has the best flippers. They are more creative, and dont get pissed at me like you did last time because I said it VERY nicely, Also im not as familiar with BB as RW(Also said this last time yet SOMEBODY didnt like the way I said it.[Not refering to somebody]) But in general I just like the way they look.It is not the way they look that makes UK flippers better, it is the scenario. It is the fact that in the UK, the only remotely successful spinners were, Hypnodisk, Typhoon, and Warhead (competed in America) because the arena gives a better advantage to flippers and the fact that there aren't many HW spinners in the UK.
http://media.madoverlord.com/Movies/2007RG/120-09-Mortician-Subzero.mov (http://media.madoverlord.com/Movies/2007RG/120-09-Mortician-Subzero.mov)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M#)
Since we've hit the show off the flipper point of the thread, check out this video and then tell me that US flippers don't hold their own against UK flippers. :P
you seem to think that just because every bot in the uk is a flipper that every driver there is miraculously better than the USA. There are different drivers everywhere and saying that one country has better drivers than the other is just plain stupid.I picked US flippers because they are more powerful and are cooler looking.Maybe, but it's how you implement it that matters- an expert driver with a basic robot is more likely to win than a novice with the latest technological marvel.
also people from the uk are just going to vote for uk and likewise for USA so this is pointless
Surprised nobody posted T-Minus vs LolibotArguably one of the best moments ever.
If there aren't spinners in the UK then they don't have true robot combat, plain and simple.This.
Ermm, we doIf there aren't spinners in the UK then they don't have true robot combat, plain and simple.This.
There are spinners in the UK, but they're not allowed in Roaming Robots (I think) and some other tournaments. Robo Challenge does have spinners such as 360 or LS4, but I'm not certain of the regulations.Only event to house spinners is RoboChallenge, which have no regulation on them
Please refer back to the vidya of The Matador vs. FrenZy.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ek4FWV37sI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ek4FWV37sI#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeoJCYz10go# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeoJCYz10go#)
Vertical Spinners > Flippers
Vertical Spinners > Flippers
HS'er whatever. XDVertical Spinners > Flippers
Why does the video matter to that statement?
I would say UK flippers because they look more effective with the launching forward and the chance of the topside being destroyed by HS lowers. US flippers have more power but if you are trying to launch them out of the arena you have to do a run up flip not stationary like UK flippers. Or something like that.Arena's in the US are enclosed. >.>
I would say UK flippers because they look more effective with the launching forward and the chance of the topside being destroyed by HS lowers. US flippers have more power but if you are trying to launch them out of the arena you have to do a run up flip not stationary like UK flippers. Or something like that.
Imma keep it simple:
US makes awesome spinners
UK makes awesome flippers.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYTotkRN5g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYTotkRN5g#)Cheaters!
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Willy Big Cheaters? :Dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYTotkRN5g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYTotkRN5g#)Cheaters!
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I would say UK flippers because they look more effective with the launching forward and the chance of the topside being destroyed by HS lowers. US flippers have more power but if you are trying to launch them out of the arena you have to do a run up flip not stationary like UK flippers. Or something like that.
Out of what arena...?
They cheatedWilly Big Cheaters? :Dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYTotkRN5g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYTotkRN5g#)Cheaters!
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SEE WAT I DID THAR GUISE
Let's see...I would say UK flippers because they look more effective with the launching forward and the chance of the topside being destroyed by HS lowers. US flippers have more power but if you are trying to launch them out of the arena you have to do a run up flip not stationary like UK flippers. Or something like that.
Out of what arena...?
Some arenas in the US have OOTA `zones`
i love this thread soooooooooooo muchAnd this thread loves you too. <3
It was possible to get bots outside the arena edge and so strand them there.yeah thats what I mean.
It was possible to get bots outside the arena edge and so strand them there.Pics?/Which arena?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaWSBxWBaGc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaWSBxWBaGc#)Haha that was awesome.
They cheated
Using Nitrogen instead of CO2 was what made it so powerful
This. XDThey cheated
Using Nitrogen instead of CO2 was what made it so powerful
Honestly you just dislike anything that isnt yours..
I don't :PThey cheated
Using Nitrogen instead of CO2 was what made it so powerful
I am pretty sure that since it was allowed its not cheating.
Honestly you just dislike anything that isnt yours..
And Nitrogen is certainly against the UK rules now, along with any other gas that isn't Air or Co2
And Nitrogen is certainly against the UK rules now, along with any other gas that isn't Air or Co2
Normally in this type of debate I'd be posting this-And Nitrogen is certainly against the UK rules now, along with any other gas that isn't Air or Co2
First no Spinners in most events, now no more powerful gases.
Someone build them a less wussy arena, stat :P
bloody yanks....Bloody brits...
Bloody Fiddlebacks...bloody yanks....Bloody brits...
Grrrrrrrrrrrr, I found one in mah room this morning. I decided to keep him as a pet in a jar. His name's Larry.Bloody Fiddlebacks...bloody yanks....Bloody brits...
Yeah, seemed like the quickest and most relevant reply- and a bit of a continuation to a running gag :PGrrrrrrrrrrrr, I found one in mah room this morning. I decided to keep him as a pet in a jar. His name's Larry.Bloody Fiddlebacks...bloody yanks....Bloody brits...
hahaYeah, seemed like the quickest and most relevant reply- and a bit of a continuation to a running gag :PGrrrrrrrrrrrr, I found one in mah room this morning. I decided to keep him as a pet in a jar. His name's Larry.Bloody Fiddlebacks...bloody yanks....Bloody brits...
Bloody British Mainlanders took part of the island for themselves. (just wanted to continue the thing.)Bloody Fiddlebacks...bloody yanks....Bloody brits...
Bloody lack of reliability on Wel-dor :rolleyes:Bloody British Mainlanders took part of the island for themselves. (just wanted to continue the thing.)Bloody Fiddlebacks...bloody yanks....Bloody brits...
i thought this was what it was ment to be like?
uk sucks
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lolthisi thought this was what it was ment to be like?
uk sucks
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I guess.
I find it funny in these conversations, that whenever someone defends something once (like I did), they are considered a fanboy, but the people accusing them are fanboys themselves.
lolwhat?I was saying that I agree with ya.
And when they do backflips (hai Mute)
Thats an american style flipper in the UK...
Nope that's SubZero in the US at robogames 2007 in the US.I knew they looked alike. Lucky bastard, closest thing I have is the guy who runs my local hobby shop (who I'm quite cool with) has a BW flipper named flying road sign but that's it.
BTW I already posted that video a couple of pages back but from a better angle.
Stupid useless irrelevant trivia
The Ti front armor on Shish came from SubZero.
SubZero was dismantled in 2008 to make a HW out of it which now fights under the name Bounty Hunter
I work for SubZero's builder
The Co2 tank I'm using in my flipper was used in SubZero.
Higher =/= BetterIt does = more impressive though.
well the uk and us flippers are designed for different things:I think that If you stuck a US flipper in a UK arena it could still pretty much do what a regular UK flipper could, only with a more eccentric trajectory.
uk, to disable the other robot by getting it stuck upside down or out of the fighting area
us, to launch the bugger as high as posible in to the air so something breaks on impact :laughing
I think that If you stuck a US flipper in a UK arena it could still pretty much do what a regular UK flipper could, only with a more eccentric trajectory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IcDdnMblLY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IcDdnMblLY#)Not exactly worth debating over, but three robots. Iron Awe 6, Kronic the Wedgehog, and Wheely Big Cheese.
We win. Show me something that can flip higher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IcDdnMblLY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IcDdnMblLY#)Explosion :P
We win. Show me something that can flip higher.
WBC, noSeries 5 against Iron-awe?
Gravity, yes
WBC wasn't actually a good flipper, it just used Nitrogen instead of CO2 which made it very dangerous, the pneumatic system couldn't properly withstand the gas, thus why robots in the UK are only allowed to use CO2 or Air for pneumatics
Throughout series 5WBC, noSeries 5 against Iron-awe?
Gravity, yes
WBC wasn't actually a good flipper, it just used Nitrogen instead of CO2 which made it very dangerous, the pneumatic system couldn't properly withstand the gas, thus why robots in the UK are only allowed to use CO2 or Air for pneumatics
Sure it was unreliable but it was fun to see it :P
And RW allowed it?Throughout series 5WBC, noSeries 5 against Iron-awe?
Gravity, yes
WBC wasn't actually a good flipper, it just used Nitrogen instead of CO2 which made it very dangerous, the pneumatic system couldn't properly withstand the gas, thus why robots in the UK are only allowed to use CO2 or Air for pneumatics
Sure it was unreliable but it was fun to see it :P
If you cannot understand how dangerous it was, it could have blown all the pneumatics inside the robot apart at any second
Untill WBCAnd RW allowed it?Throughout series 5WBC, noSeries 5 against Iron-awe?
Gravity, yes
WBC wasn't actually a good flipper, it just used Nitrogen instead of CO2 which made it very dangerous, the pneumatic system couldn't properly withstand the gas, thus why robots in the UK are only allowed to use CO2 or Air for pneumatics
Sure it was unreliable but it was fun to see it :P
If you cannot understand how dangerous it was, it could have blown all the pneumatics inside the robot apart at any second
Is that the reason why we didn't see them in later series'?Untill WBCAnd RW allowed it?Throughout series 5WBC, noSeries 5 against Iron-awe?
Gravity, yes
WBC wasn't actually a good flipper, it just used Nitrogen instead of CO2 which made it very dangerous, the pneumatic system couldn't properly withstand the gas, thus why robots in the UK are only allowed to use CO2 or Air for pneumatics
Sure it was unreliable but it was fun to see it :P
If you cannot understand how dangerous it was, it could have blown all the pneumatics inside the robot apart at any second
Dunno, quite possiblyIs that the reason why we didn't see them in later series'?Untill WBCAnd RW allowed it?Throughout series 5WBC, noSeries 5 against Iron-awe?
Gravity, yes
WBC wasn't actually a good flipper, it just used Nitrogen instead of CO2 which made it very dangerous, the pneumatic system couldn't properly withstand the gas, thus why robots in the UK are only allowed to use CO2 or Air for pneumatics
Sure it was unreliable but it was fun to see it :P
If you cannot understand how dangerous it was, it could have blown all the pneumatics inside the robot apart at any second
I thought they just didn't have enough money (yes i'm that silly :D)
Was there a slightly similar risk to what happened with Spawn Again against Raging Reality in Series 7, where their piston actually blew itself apart and left itself hanging out of the front of the machine?Nah, that was in the arena
From the RWW:Dunno, quite possiblyIs that the reason why we didn't see them in later series'?Untill WBCAnd RW allowed it?Throughout series 5WBC, noSeries 5 against Iron-awe?
Gravity, yes
WBC wasn't actually a good flipper, it just used Nitrogen instead of CO2 which made it very dangerous, the pneumatic system couldn't properly withstand the gas, thus why robots in the UK are only allowed to use CO2 or Air for pneumatics
Sure it was unreliable but it was fun to see it :P
If you cannot understand how dangerous it was, it could have blown all the pneumatics inside the robot apart at any second
I thought they just didn't have enough money (yes i'm that silly :D)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IcDdnMblLY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IcDdnMblLY#)*cough* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYTotkRN5g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYTotkRN5g#) *cough*
We win. Show me something that can flip higher.
We've been through this before, Nitrogen Gas + CO2 Powered Tank and Ram = Unstable Explosive CheatThat's why I also listed Kronic and Iron Awe- even with CO2 flippers, they were seen to be more than capable of tossing robots into the air like confetti at a wedding.